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Western numerology is traced back to Greek philosopher and mathematician Pythagoras, though the older Chaldean Numerology System is also utilized by some. It's from Pythagoras' system that people have created Angel Numbers, which some believe represent messages from a higher power. Angel-Numbers.com has you covered from 0-999, and Sacred Scribe's Angel Numbers goes farther, up to 1299, and identifies potential meaning in number patterns.
posted by filthy light thief (55 comments total) 11 users marked this as a favorite

 
So THIS explains fortune cookies.
posted by oceanjesse at 5:50 AM on August 17, 2013


“The universally accepted symbolism of the compound numbers in ancient times”

Since when has anyone universally agreed on any symbolism?
posted by oceanjesse at 5:52 AM on August 17, 2013 [3 favorites]


Angel number 42

Angels are listening to your prayers. You have your doubts about faith, but they are pointless. They can harm your life path if you continue, that’s why this message is being sent. Ask for ways how to overcome your doubts and Angels will help you. If you need to, ask your guardian Angel to sent you a sign or proof he is here with you. Express him your sincere gratitude for his efforts. Sign will come soon, keep your eyes open.
posted by laconic skeuomorph at 6:57 AM on August 17, 2013


ANGEL NUMBER 23

Higher Powers are helping you to keep your faith. They are close to you right now and you can ask them for help anytime you need.

posted by b1tr0t at 7:18 AM on August 17, 2013 [1 favorite]


According to my phone number I'm going to be rich and succesful.

Yay angels!
posted by Sourisnoire at 7:41 AM on August 17, 2013


Since when has anyone universally agreed on any symbolism?

My view of numerology aligns with Sol's thoughts: "You want to find [any number] in the world, you will be able to find it everywhere." But I shared this because I was impressed with how much work folks put into documenting what they saw as the meanings of numbers. The Sacred Scribes blog is really thorough in the cross-referencing of numbers.
posted by filthy light thief at 7:43 AM on August 17, 2013


180: The sum of the angels in a triangle.
posted by Obscure Reference at 7:46 AM on August 17, 2013 [21 favorites]


There are is no repeating number large enough to express my disdain and contempt for the charlatans and creeps that create and promote this vile hogwash. (Not you, FLT, the hucksters pitching this bullshit as their business.)
posted by five fresh fish at 7:49 AM on August 17, 2013 [6 favorites]


Or, as Horace wrote to a (young?) lass:

Don't you keep asking, to know is forbidden, what end to you, what end to me
the gods may have assigned, Leuconoe, nor meddle with Babylonian
numbers.
How much better, whatever will be, to deal with it,
whether Juppiter grants us many more winters, or this is the last,
which weakens the Tyrrhenian Sea upon the exposed pumice.
Be sensible, strain the wine and restrain your long hopes within this
brief space; while we are talking, jealous time will have fled:
pluck [seize] the day, trusting in the next as little as possible.

Don't trust that hogwash! Get drunk and party with me instead! I'm pretty sure he wasn't talking about trusting the square root of two or the Pythagorean system, sadly, but the mysto-numerology permeating even then.
posted by jetlagaddict at 7:51 AM on August 17, 2013


The Timecube is strong here. Very Strong.
posted by T.D. Strange at 8:00 AM on August 17, 2013 [1 favorite]


Wooooooooo
posted by Windopaene at 8:06 AM on August 17, 2013


Numerology is a koan.
If you think it explains everything, then you half understand it.
If you think it explains nothing, then you half understand it.

It will be interesting to see what popular cargo cults spring up around programming.
posted by b1tr0t at 8:09 AM on August 17, 2013 [2 favorites]


Spoiler alert: Angel Number 1414 is pretty damn rad.
posted by Celsius1414 at 8:17 AM on August 17, 2013


Maybe it's time to watch the film Pi. Requiem for a Dream is plenty horrifying, but I'm more of a math nerd than a junkie. I can relate more directly to the insanity of taking numerology seriously.
posted by Nelson at 8:25 AM on August 17, 2013


I used Angel Numbers to decode a numbers station transmission and you will never believe what I discov
posted by griphus at 8:29 AM on August 17, 2013 [6 favorites]


I am unsure where the idea of guardian angels comes from. Whenever they appear in the Bible, they are pretty likely to be bringing Fire and Judgement, and pretty much no one gets away from an encounter with them unchanged. Even when they appear with just news, they have to hasten to say "Hey, don't be afraid; we are just here to tell you something! No smiting!" And everyone is still really really nervous.

Basically, a day without an angel looking at you for any reason is a better day than it could be.
posted by GenjiandProust at 8:32 AM on August 17, 2013 [11 favorites]


Yeesh.

Pythagorian Numerology was organized by Greek philosopher and mathematician Pythagoras, who combined the mathematical disciplines of the Arabic, Druid, Phoenician, Egyptian and Essene sciences.

First of all, the Pythagorians were obsessed with numbers, but it's not clear that that came from Pythagoras himself, about whose actual teachings we don't know all that much (except he apparently believed in reincarnation enough that people made fun of him for it). Secondly, I really doubt Pythagoras had any interest in Arabic, Druidic, or Essene sciences, since he either predated those groups or very likely never encountered anyone who had encountered anyone who knew anything about them. Egyptian (and, perhaps, Persian) ideas are a distant possibility, although Egyptian mathematics never reached a very high level. So, um, no. This is as likely an origin of Pythagorian ideas as the stories that he was a god, the result of a virgin birth, and had a thigh made out of gold.
posted by GenjiandProust at 8:38 AM on August 17, 2013 [3 favorites]


and had a thigh made out of gold.

I heard that "thigh" was a euphemism.
posted by RobotHero at 8:48 AM on August 17, 2013 [4 favorites]


On the other hand, I enjoy numerology (go figure), and I discover that my username adds up to 49, which is the same as 31:
This number is very similar to the preceding one, except that the person it represents is even more self-contacted, lonely, and isolated from his fellows. It is not a fortunate number from a worldly or material standpoint.
Well, poo. I can only hope that my MeFi birthday, the Winter Solstice, will help me out here.
posted by GenjiandProust at 8:48 AM on August 17, 2013 [1 favorite]


It will be interesting to see what popular cargo cults spring up around programming.

Insofar as computer programming is a learned manipulation of symbolic language to produce desired real-world effects, I don't see how it's any different from the use of ritual incantations or mystic runes or whatnot.

Other than the fact that programming actually -- you know -- WORKS.
posted by Strange Interlude at 8:48 AM on August 17, 2013 [2 favorites]


Angel Numbers; where schizophrenia and wishful thinking meet.
posted by Conrad-Casserole at 8:55 AM on August 17, 2013 [1 favorite]


The Law of Fives states simply that: All things happen in fives, or are divisible by or are multiples of five, or are somehow directly or indirectly appropriate to 5. The Law of Fives is never wrong.
posted by Foosnark at 8:57 AM on August 17, 2013 [5 favorites]


666: Sorry! No posts match your criteria!

668: You are the Neighbor of the Beast.
posted by Curious Artificer at 9:07 AM on August 17, 2013 [1 favorite]


Ever since I was a kid, it seems the number pattern "255" has repeatedly popped up in my life. When I first got involved in computer graphics and realized that 8-bit color depth is addressable via a numeric range of 0-255 I had a moment where I thought that had to be a sign. Then I remembered confirmation bias. Nevertheless, I still pay attention to good ol' 255 so I had to check out what my "angel number" really means. I was not surprised to get a grammatically flawed, overly-generalized horoscope-like paragraph entreating me to avoid negativity. Oh well, I guess I fail at that.
posted by majorsteel at 9:11 AM on August 17, 2013 [1 favorite]


"It will be interesting to see what popular cargo cults spring up around programming."

It's called ruby (ducks).
posted by idiopath at 9:24 AM on August 17, 2013 [4 favorites]


This business of Angel Numbers has sorely vexed me throughout this entire summer!
Due to the advent of global positioning satellites the church I serve must change its street address. The property is nearly two centuries old. For all practical purpose, the "front" of the building no longer aligns with the street it's listed on - if you rely on GPS to bring you to the church you would have to stop on a busy street with no parking.

So, various elements of the church's governance have sought to rotate the structure 90 degrees to the North, pneamatologically speaking.

We own the adjacent block and can select for ourselves any new street address between 301 and 349. It was foolishly left up to my office staff to reach some consensus on the issue.

Enter this ancient flim-flammery with Angel Numbers and now my staff is evenly split between 333 and 345. Heated debate. A flurry of e-mails. Intrigue. Politics.

"Oh, but 333 is associated with warmth and hospitality! We are, after all, a church of radical hospitality."
"Yes, but you see, 345 is clearly associated with growth! We are a growing church. Green and ascendant!"

I propose to submit this entire matter to a congregational vote. Or administrative fiat. I haven't decided. Angel Numbers! Bah!
posted by Baby_Balrog at 9:29 AM on August 17, 2013 [4 favorites]


Split the difference and compromise on 339.
posted by RobotHero at 9:38 AM on August 17, 2013


Every time I look at the clock it seems to be 3:03, and I hear squelchy acid noises in my head.
posted by marienbad at 9:42 AM on August 17, 2013 [5 favorites]


"Oh, but 333 is associated with warmth and hospitality! We are, after all, a church of radical hospitality."

Nobody said anything about the multiple significations of the Holy Trinity? Three digits, each of them 3? C'mon!

Newton devoted a lot of his later life to this stuff, so I don't think we can attribute it exclusively to ignorance and stupidity.

It seems much more like some kind of brain syndrome to me.
posted by jamjam at 9:57 AM on August 17, 2013


It's called ruby (ducks).

Heresy! Python is the one true faith!
posted by JHarris at 10:10 AM on August 17, 2013


Angels - meh. Sam and Dean had it right. They're a bunch of dicks. I'm glad Melatron took their grace and cast them out, though I worry how this will affect Castiel.
posted by Ber at 10:11 AM on August 17, 2013 [2 favorites]


Nobody said anything about the multiple significations of the Holy Trinity? Three digits, each of them 3? C'mon!

On the other hand, Aleister Crowley was really fond of 333, so that might be good or bad, depending on the church. 345 fits nicely into the Pythagorian theorum....
posted by GenjiandProust at 10:20 AM on August 17, 2013


There are is no repeating number large enough to express my disdain and contempt for the charlatans and creeps that create and promote this vile hogwash.

"Angel Number 1299 asks you to be open to receiving and accepting your ‘good’, which may appear in the form of new opportunities, new projects and starting afresh. Ensure that all that you do is in alignment with your soul purpose and spiritual truths, which involves being of service to humanity."

Omigod you're right! That is VILE!

I'm not saying I believe it, but I can't see what real harm it does. Yes sometimes vulnerable people rely on it too much, but you can say that about the Church and medication. A lot of the "messages" are akin to common AskMe replies - be true to yourself, positive energy attracts same, be accepting of who you are etc.

TL;DR Lighten up, kids!
posted by billiebee at 10:23 AM on August 17, 2013 [3 favorites]


"Heresy! Python is the one true faith!"

The joke was supposed to be that ruby programmers don't know the difference between good programming and fancy looking pointless stuff that looks like good programming; but if you think python has more of that going on, I could be convinced.
posted by idiopath at 10:29 AM on August 17, 2013


If you think it explains everything, then you half understand it. If you think it explains nothing, then you half understand it.

Well, you're half right anyway
posted by ook at 11:09 AM on August 17, 2013


I'm not saying I believe it, but I can't see what real harm it does.

You don't see the harm in encouraging people to believe that lies are true?
posted by ook at 11:11 AM on August 17, 2013 [4 favorites]


I believe the Almighty uses the Angel Numbers as bookmarks, NOT expressions of divine favor.
posted by dubold at 11:12 AM on August 17, 2013 [2 favorites]


Insofar as computer programming is a learned manipulation of symbolic language to produce desired real-world effects, I don't see how it's any different from the use of ritual incantations or mystic runes or whatnot.

Other than the fact that programming actually -- you know -- WORKS.
Programming works if you happen to know how to do it properly, and happen to be doing it to a computer. And are good at debugging. And, And, And...

My point is that some people are already using programming as an aesthetic (mostly nerd-groupies, but also people like Mayor Bloomberg. Bloomberg is unlikely to every learn enough programming to make it functionally different from magic) and that will probably expand as pop culture becomes more aware of whatever aspects of programming that they observe.

My own relationship with numerology is essentially aesthetic. I enjoy finding patterns in numbers. Sudoku isn't my thing, but I find it pleasant to discover simple arithmetic and symbolic relationships. It seems unfortunate when people take what is essentially a highly abstract art form and then attempt to use it as a system of control. On the other hand, I can understand why speakers of languages derived from the Chinese character set don't like the number 4. It does sound like death, and no one wants to write a check for $DEATH to pay the rent.

Ironically, there is another angel list where you can offer precisely constructed magic incantations and magic numbers. I'm told that the angels will occasionally favor supplicants with large bundles of cash, subject to certain conditions. I've never experienced this myself, but they say that Google was initially funded by an angel...
posted by b1tr0t at 11:27 AM on August 17, 2013


I'm not saying I believe it, but I can't see what real harm it does.

You don't see the harm in encouraging people to believe that lies are true?


I see the harm that happens when people are convinced they understand how things work and they know the truth, and other people’s beliefs are stupid and must be shut down for the good of all.
posted by bongo_x at 11:57 AM on August 17, 2013 [4 favorites]


So then, does it say how many angels on the head of a pin???
posted by Twang at 12:14 PM on August 17, 2013


I see the harm that happens when people are convinced they understand how things work and they know the truth, and other people’s beliefs are stupid and must be shut down for the good of all.

There are plenty of complex, nuanced, and incompletely-understood phenomena in the world about which people can have principled, thoughtful disagreement. The belief that random numbers are actually super-seekrit messages from angels, by contrast, is straight up superstitious bullcrap.

If you're seriously defending this sort of nonsense you've confused "open-minded" for "credulous". I mean, really. Are you seriously, genuinely defending this nonsense?
posted by ook at 12:16 PM on August 17, 2013


"It will be interesting to see what popular cargo cults spring up around programming."

Wasn't there that whole 90's thing about uploading your consciousness to the net, or is that still going on?
posted by glasseyes at 12:17 PM on August 17, 2013 [1 favorite]


Every time I look at the clock it seems to be 3:03, and I hear squelchy acid noises in my head.

Oh yeah. Well then how about 808? " Number 8 resonates with manifesting wealth and abundance ... Number 0 carries the influences of the ‘God force’ and/or Universal Energies ... making 808 a powerful vibration."

However, if you jonesing an E-bay 808, remember that "The Angel Number 808 is a message that you are to keep your finances in check to ensure that you have set yourself solid foundations for yourself and your loved ones."
posted by Twang at 12:22 PM on August 17, 2013 [1 favorite]


The belief that random numbers are actually super-seekrit messages from angels, by contrast, is straight up superstitious bullcrap.
The whole "angel number" thing seems more like hiding affirmations all around you. Not my thing at all, but I don't feel a need to undermine it for people who do enjoy that sort of thing.
Wasn't there that whole 90's thing about uploading your consciousness to the net, or is that still going on?
I suspect that it will come back around the time that enough compute equipment can be dedicated to the task of simulating a human brain. The idea of living in someone else's VR world doesn't appeal much to me, but I suspect we will learn some interesting things when we try to do it.
posted by b1tr0t at 2:14 PM on August 17, 2013 [1 favorite]


Angel number 37
Higher Powers are leading you to the right path. Ask them for advice, answers or reassurance in your meditation and prayers if you need to. The path you have chosen is a good one and Higher Powers want to help and support you.


Makes me think of that silly game on The Price Is Right with the little mechanical mountain climber that Bob Barker always said "can't be stopped because it takes 37 hours to be reset" (and how Drew Carey can't get the joke right). Yep, right path.

Angel number 47
Angels see you are doing everything you can, you are on a right path. They are close to you and help you with daily concerns. If you need to, they can help even more. Just tell them your problems. There is no need to worry about solutions, Higher Powers know best how to do things right.


Explains why Star Trek uses that number so much. "Higher Powers" and Technobabble will make things right.

Angel number 86
Let go of any material concerns in your thoughts, you can expect new and surprising financial injection arranged by Higher Powers and fueled by your strong intentions. Express your gratitude for all the gifts and blessings you are receiving. They are offered to you to help you keep up good work.


As for Get Smart's Agent 86... missed it by that much.
posted by oneswellfoop at 3:20 PM on August 17, 2013


I simply can't take numerology seriously because the entire premise relies on the significance of decimal numbers. Our base-10 numbering system arose from the fact that we humans have ten dangling phalanges at the end of our arms. Indeed, our affinity for denary multiples is completely arbitrary.

I'd be far more inclined to give credence to such theories if they were based on actual values we observe in nature. The circle and, more predominantly, the sphere, are the basic geometries of the universe. The dimensions and ratios of stacked spheres seem far more intrinsic and important to me than the numerals of our cultural counting system.

Modern genius and crazy person Buckminster Fuller (inventor of the geodesic dome) based his studies on these sphere-related shapes, such as the amazing cuboctahedron, and it led him to predict the existence of matter that we have only begun to discover like carbon nanotubes and other fullerenes.

If we're going to recognize numerical patterns and wisdom in the everyday world around us, we should at least be using the same radix as nature. After all, pi would be much easier to observe if it were a whole number.
posted by johnnyace at 3:47 PM on August 17, 2013 [3 favorites]


I find this super-annoying, because the people involved have literally NO feeling for numbers whatsoever.

By contrast, I had an interesting chat/debate with the late John Michell - I called him to task for using length measurements as pure numbers with respect to numerology. He responded instantly - saying that the imperial foot was an actual fundamental unit of the universe so lengths in feet can be treated as pure numbers.

Perhaps this is hard to explain to a non-mathematician, but I completely respected that argument. I don't believe it, mind you, but it's completely consistent, and more, it shows a great understanding and affinity for numbers and units.

Whenever any number was mentioned, he had the habit of announcing its prime factors and other numerical features of it - and I liked that too, I think exactly the same way, even though I'm very much the skeptic.

So I read these angel numbers, and I see nothing - all these lovely numbers, and all their beauties ignored. It's bullshit.

My funny numerology story:

About a decade ago I went to a psychedelic music festival in Boston. It was not good. I was unable to score pot before I went, and the music was extremely tedious - basically bands where the people had seen the Grateful Dead a few times. I was not having a good time in my life in general at that point, so I just left and went wandering around and ended up in a bookstore... where I ran into a copy of the I Ching.

I threw a reading and looked up chapter 24 - and burst into tears, because it's the lyrics of one of my all-time favorite songs.

But I'm a skeptic, so I went back and looked at the instructions as to how to throw the hexagrams again...

...and I realized that there was a fundamental ambiguity in the instructions, and if I took the other interpretation, I'd get to chapter 23, "Breaking Apart", which is as negative as chapter 24 is positive. I read through the instructions three times and I was unable to decide which interpretation was intended.

And I laughed.
posted by lupus_yonderboy at 3:53 PM on August 17, 2013 [2 favorites]


Curious Artificer: 666: Sorry! No posts match your criteria!

Ah, I should have verified that Angel-Numbers.com indeed went up to 999. Instead, after 30 pages, you only reach 299.

Sacred Scribes, on the other hand, has a page for repeating 6's, and a specific page for 666.

This was how I found the site in the first place. See, I was looking for something regarding 666 for my six hundred sixty-sixth post. I also came across the cough medicine of the devil Monticello Drug Company, and opted for that.
posted by filthy light thief at 4:10 PM on August 17, 2013 [2 favorites]


I read through the instructions three times and I was unable to decide which interpretation was intended.
I take the view that any form of divination is essentially isomorphic to Eno's Oblique Strategies. Divination doesn't tell you anything, it just provides a scaffolding for you to poke at and organize what is already going on inside your own head.
If we're going to recognize numerical patterns and wisdom in the everyday world around us, we should at least be using the same radix as nature. After all, pi would be much easier to observe if it were a whole number.
Nothing prevents you from doing just that. Pick the principles that appeal to you and make up your own system. I Ching and Bagua are both based on binary numbers. Various forms of traditional African divination are as well. Astrology is a good place to look if you like circles and spheres.
posted by b1tr0t at 5:34 PM on August 17, 2013 [2 favorites]


Someone called?

I'm always here.

Waiting.
posted by 23 at 8:08 PM on August 17, 2013 [7 favorites]


How do these types of bullshit do harm?

If for every hour my grandmother spent studying numerology, angels, and other similar stuff she did to feel happy (the effect was always very short lived, she had to do these thing several times a day) she had spent one minute looking into her finances or listening to her doctor, she would have felt happier for real the last decade of her life that she spent broke and in pain.

Her angels and numerology and Egyptian magic and Mayan horoscope friends would close ranks around her and tell her not to listen to all the negative energy people telling her to spend an h hour with an accountant or going to a doctor.
posted by Doroteo Arango II at 10:43 AM on August 18, 2013 [1 favorite]


At least my other grandma, the one that went to mass three times a day and held all the prayer circles died surrounded by a huge community of Catholics who loved her. We had to rent a hundred chairs for all the people who showed up at her funeral, who had been affected by her charity work.

Bullshit all the same, but at least sticking to a thousands year old tradition seems to work better than going all in with the flavor of the month.
posted by Doroteo Arango II at 10:48 AM on August 18, 2013


Foosnark, you only had four
favorites, so I fixed it.
posted by 23 at 1:57 AM on August 19, 2013


the imperial foot was an actual fundamental unit of the universe so lengths in feet can be treated as pure numbers.

Please, please, please explain.

By the way I loved the cough-syrup-of-the-devil post.
posted by glasseyes at 3:55 AM on August 19, 2013


I, too, am very curious how the foot could be considered "a fundamental unit of the universe".
posted by ook at 10:49 AM on August 19, 2013


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