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Post number 13123

riley370 — Fri, 14 Dec 2001 08:40:54 -0800

The four noble truths of blogging
1. Painful Mediocrity (Kutaifishi)
2. Cause of Painfully Mediocre Blogging (Jittaifishi)
3. Cessation of Mediocre Blogging (Zeitgeistidiota)
4. The Path (drole la voie d'acces)

By: grabbingsand

grabbingsand — Fri, 14 Dec 2001 09:02:45 -0800

the associated link to a decalogue of schlegelisms is even more interesting.

By: UncleFes

UncleFes — Fri, 14 Dec 2001 09:18:52 -0800

Reading my grocery list is even more interesting than that. The world has enough navel-gazing and mentalbation as it is; anybody but me consider that quality should be the goal, not quantity?

By: centrs

centrs — Fri, 14 Dec 2001 09:29:40 -0800

as with any hobby or creative endeavor, the enjoyment and personal satisfaction of the person doing it should be the goal.

By: KLAX

KLAX — Fri, 14 Dec 2001 10:06:34 -0800

as with any hobby or creative endeavor, the enjoyment and personal satisfaction of the person doing it should be the goal. What sort of "personal satisfaction" do bloggers derive from never having an unexpressed thought? Oh, that's right -- loads.

By: UncleFes

UncleFes — Fri, 14 Dec 2001 11:04:11 -0800

When you publish, you admit an audience, and when you admit an audience, the audience garners the right to critique.

By: riley370

riley370 — Fri, 14 Dec 2001 11:15:56 -0800

I thought Fishrush did a hilarious job. As for any audience garnering the right, the right is earned by how they behave and are responsible in their critiques to offer value, clarity or to extend an article.

By: UncleFes

UncleFes — Fri, 14 Dec 2001 11:44:06 -0800

The right is assumed by the widebanding of the document. If it wasn't, there would be no pans.

By: rushmc

rushmc — Fri, 14 Dec 2001 14:26:11 -0800

When you publish, you admit an audience, and when you admit an audience, the audience garners the right to critique. Brilliantly stated.

By: centrs

centrs — Fri, 14 Dec 2001 15:04:22 -0800

critique is fine, but i don't think anyone should stop blogging because of bad critiques. i guess i just took unclefes' comment as people who can't come up with "quality" content shouldn't be blogging. i say it's their perogative if they enjoy doing it.

By: UncleFes

UncleFes — Fri, 14 Dec 2001 15:24:08 -0800

Well, not shouldn't, I suppose. If they enjoy it, there's nothing stopping them from doing so, and I certainly wouldn't censor them. But if they publish publicly, then they open themselves up to criticism, good and bad. If they do not want the bad criticism, then they should reconsider widebanding the URL to their blog - or simply keep a written diary, for themselves or to show to selected people who will not criticize. If you keep a diary, your creative endeavor is your own, and no one (well, maybe your mom if she finds it) will criticize the contents. But if you publish a blog, then you are basically opening your diary to the entire world - you are bringing it to an audience. And that inherently allows for criticism. That being the case, if you assume an audience, and therefore open oneself to criticism, then quality should be a goal. You can be as sloppy and boring as you want in your diary; but if you are writing for the entertainment and/or edification of others (the unstated but very real goal of publishing), then you should strive to provide your audience with the best quality material you can. Otherwise, why publish?

By: rushmc

rushmc — Fri, 14 Dec 2001 17:35:06 -0800

That being the case, if you assume an audience, and therefore open oneself to criticism, then quality should be a goal. *I* agree with you, but I can see how not everyone might feel the pressure to produce quality work or consider their audience at all in creating such output. Just because you make yourself available to criticism doesn't necessarily imply that you care one whit about it.

By: walrus

walrus — Mon, 17 Dec 2001 04:53:02 -0800

Just because you make yourself available to criticism doesn't necessarily imply that you care one whit about it. Meaning you won't mind if I criticise.

By: rushmc

rushmc — Tue, 18 Dec 2001 18:06:44 -0800

Please do. Unlike some, I may mind some, but I acknowledge that I may also benefit from it.

By: walrus

walrus — Wed, 19 Dec 2001 03:59:07 -0800

Sorry rushmc, I was being flippant. I suspect we think along similar lines on this subject. By the way, I get a 404 for the page listed on your profile. Not that I was going to criticise it, you understand ... just went for a glance ;-)