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I'd kind of like to see "Goodies" return as a menu bar item in modern applications.
posted by Wolfdog at 10:26 AM on October 10, 2013 [6 favorites]
posted by Wolfdog at 10:26 AM on October 10, 2013 [6 favorites]
Waffle texture! Cherry pie! Wicker! Brick!
posted by RobotHero at 10:26 AM on October 10, 2013 [3 favorites]
posted by RobotHero at 10:26 AM on October 10, 2013 [3 favorites]
Holy crap, I miss 2nd grade!
posted by roomthreeseventeen at 10:29 AM on October 10, 2013
posted by roomthreeseventeen at 10:29 AM on October 10, 2013
On the second link, the Donkey Kong display messes up, on Firefox at least, if you let the video play through to the end of the Rivets level.
posted by JHarris at 10:30 AM on October 10, 2013
posted by JHarris at 10:30 AM on October 10, 2013
Super Mario Bros. recreated in HTML 5: http://www.fullscreenmario.com/
posted by BurntHombre at 10:30 AM on October 10, 2013
posted by BurntHombre at 10:30 AM on October 10, 2013
MacPaint was my favourite thing on my old Mac 512. I like seeing New York and Chicago in the font list again. Ah, memories.
posted by wabbittwax at 10:31 AM on October 10, 2013
posted by wabbittwax at 10:31 AM on October 10, 2013
Super Mario Bros. recreated in HTML 5: http://www.fullscreenmario.com/
And it was posted to MetaFilter yesterday, in case anyone missed it.
Hey, Adobe Photoshop 1.0.(?) source code is legally available! From the screenshots, it's only a shade or two more complex than MacPaint. Someone more skilled than me, let's get that online!
posted by filthy light thief at 10:32 AM on October 10, 2013
And it was posted to MetaFilter yesterday, in case anyone missed it.
Hey, Adobe Photoshop 1.0.(?) source code is legally available! From the screenshots, it's only a shade or two more complex than MacPaint. Someone more skilled than me, let's get that online!
posted by filthy light thief at 10:32 AM on October 10, 2013
I. want. flying. TOASTERS!!!
posted by RolandOfEld at 10:33 AM on October 10, 2013 [4 favorites]
posted by RolandOfEld at 10:33 AM on October 10, 2013 [4 favorites]
Also, while its inclusion in this post implies that it's a demonstration of HTML5, the IGN Mario thing actually contains some Flash content.
posted by JHarris at 10:35 AM on October 10, 2013
posted by JHarris at 10:35 AM on October 10, 2013
I remember my first ever computer class when I was in 1st grade. We were all gathered around a computer watching while our teacher showed us a few things computers could do. Obviously, being first graders, we were only interested in the drawing programs.
He pulled MacPaint up and drew a few squiggles and boxes on it, showing us how we could draw things. He said you could draw anything you wanted, not just boxes, and asked for someone to give him something to draw as an example. I shot my hand up first. I asked him to draw a triceratops.
He looked at me for a good long moment, the kind of pained look you give someone when you wanted them to say "a smiley face!" and now they're making you perform for a flock of ornery 6 year olds. Anyway, he said "okaaaaay...a triceratops," and turned back to the computer, and drew a really good triceratops for us (at least, I remember it being amazingly good). He printed it out for me and I gave it to the first grade teacher to hang on the wall.
I don't remember anything else about that class or that teacher, just that he drew me a triceratops when I asked him to. That was pretty cool. To this day, I can't see that MacPaint program without thinking about it.
posted by phunniemee at 10:36 AM on October 10, 2013 [16 favorites]
He pulled MacPaint up and drew a few squiggles and boxes on it, showing us how we could draw things. He said you could draw anything you wanted, not just boxes, and asked for someone to give him something to draw as an example. I shot my hand up first. I asked him to draw a triceratops.
He looked at me for a good long moment, the kind of pained look you give someone when you wanted them to say "a smiley face!" and now they're making you perform for a flock of ornery 6 year olds. Anyway, he said "okaaaaay...a triceratops," and turned back to the computer, and drew a really good triceratops for us (at least, I remember it being amazingly good). He printed it out for me and I gave it to the first grade teacher to hang on the wall.
I don't remember anything else about that class or that teacher, just that he drew me a triceratops when I asked him to. That was pretty cool. To this day, I can't see that MacPaint program without thinking about it.
posted by phunniemee at 10:36 AM on October 10, 2013 [16 favorites]
I still have my MacPlus, though I did buy an SE20 a few years back for $20 because it had a superdrive, which allowed me to copy the Mac 800K disk content over to its HDD (included with the $20!), which I could then image and copy over to a Windows PC where I could use Mini vMac. That was a long but very rewarding night.
posted by linux at 10:50 AM on October 10, 2013 [2 favorites]
posted by linux at 10:50 AM on October 10, 2013 [2 favorites]
This is cool. Has anyone figured out if it's possible to import and save images without connecting to Facebook?
posted by roll truck roll at 11:01 AM on October 10, 2013 [1 favorite]
posted by roll truck roll at 11:01 AM on October 10, 2013 [1 favorite]
Ah man. The Mac lab in college, 1987 ...
posted by GallonOfAlan at 11:02 AM on October 10, 2013
posted by GallonOfAlan at 11:02 AM on October 10, 2013
The next logical step is Mario Paint in HTML5. Can someone get on this, please? Preferably complete with music editor, stamp tool editor, and fly-swatting game. And it should only export to VHS.
posted by oulipian at 11:02 AM on October 10, 2013 [3 favorites]
posted by oulipian at 11:02 AM on October 10, 2013 [3 favorites]
Ah man. The Mac lab in college, 1987 ...
MacPlaymate next kthxbai
posted by GallonOfAlan at 11:02 AM on October 10, 2013
MacPlaymate next kthxbai
posted by GallonOfAlan at 11:02 AM on October 10, 2013
You know, I've always been a Mac hater from the standpoint of actually using them, but I love that old-school Mac aesthetic, that weird, dappled sort of look. Does anybody remember a website that you could upload a picture to and have it convert to how it would appear on an old B&W Mac? I have searched and searched MeFi and can't find the post about it.
posted by Pope Guilty at 11:16 AM on October 10, 2013 [1 favorite]
posted by Pope Guilty at 11:16 AM on October 10, 2013 [1 favorite]
My generation (and by that I mean people who graduated high school within the same couple of years) wound up in a weird shadowland where we were still taught how to use dying technology while being allowed just a glimpse of what was to come. My college film class has to have been one of the last to learn how to shoot and edit (I mean, physically cut and splice together) 16mm film with synchronized sound transferred to 16mm magnetic stock. And painful linear tape-to-tape video editing. The film department got an early Avid system the last year I was there but access to it was very limited, and it would take hours if not days to digitize your video footage.
Similarly, in 10th grade I took an awesome class called "Graphic Arts" where we made letterpress business cards, silk-screened shirts (with lacquer film, none of that new-fangled photo emulsion!), and did offset printing... but the classroom also had a bunch of Macs and what must have been an incredibly expensive laser printer. So the offset printing project was: come up with a design in MacPaint, print it onto a transparency that was then used to expose the offset plate, make a gazillion prints and bind them into a notepad. Somewhere in the attic I have still have most of my pad, which features a meticulously pixel-rendered version of the Capitol Toys Clown. I think I gave him frowny eyebrows.
posted by usonian at 11:25 AM on October 10, 2013 [6 favorites]
Similarly, in 10th grade I took an awesome class called "Graphic Arts" where we made letterpress business cards, silk-screened shirts (with lacquer film, none of that new-fangled photo emulsion!), and did offset printing... but the classroom also had a bunch of Macs and what must have been an incredibly expensive laser printer. So the offset printing project was: come up with a design in MacPaint, print it onto a transparency that was then used to expose the offset plate, make a gazillion prints and bind them into a notepad. Somewhere in the attic I have still have most of my pad, which features a meticulously pixel-rendered version of the Capitol Toys Clown. I think I gave him frowny eyebrows.
posted by usonian at 11:25 AM on October 10, 2013 [6 favorites]
MacDraw! I want the simple joy of making flow diagrams again!
posted by King Sky Prawn at 11:35 AM on October 10, 2013 [1 favorite]
posted by King Sky Prawn at 11:35 AM on October 10, 2013 [1 favorite]
Now, if only I can find my old floppies where I saved all my Nagel-meets-Giger stippleganzas!
posted by mittens at 11:40 AM on October 10, 2013
posted by mittens at 11:40 AM on October 10, 2013
Similarly, in 10th grade I took an awesome class called "Graphic Arts" where we made letterpress business cards, silk-screened shirts (with lacquer film, none of that new-fangled photo emulsion!), and did offset printing
I took the same class in 7th grade and then by junior year in high school (class on 1987) I was using MacPaint on an original Mac. Somewhere I have a 3 1/2 inch disk with an isometric drawing I did of "my room." It was awesome. I'd give anything to find some way to read it again.
Graphic Arts was the shit. We'd make Led Zeppelin "business cards" with movable type on the hand-operated printing press and then make The Doors t-shirts on silkscreen. Wasted youth FTW!
posted by bondcliff at 11:44 AM on October 10, 2013 [1 favorite]
I took the same class in 7th grade and then by junior year in high school (class on 1987) I was using MacPaint on an original Mac. Somewhere I have a 3 1/2 inch disk with an isometric drawing I did of "my room." It was awesome. I'd give anything to find some way to read it again.
Graphic Arts was the shit. We'd make Led Zeppelin "business cards" with movable type on the hand-operated printing press and then make The Doors t-shirts on silkscreen. Wasted youth FTW!
posted by bondcliff at 11:44 AM on October 10, 2013 [1 favorite]
I would fill areas with the basic grid, then trace edges, and keep refining to make what would look like a city map. Place a thick line, then trace edges for a boulevard, glop in a harbor and draw the front streets by hand. It was SimCity 0.1 for me.
posted by bendybendy at 11:49 AM on October 10, 2013 [1 favorite]
posted by bendybendy at 11:49 AM on October 10, 2013 [1 favorite]
Our middle school library macs had some kind of a draw program with a "lathe" tool that let you draw a curve and then basically produced the surface of revolution, with (pretty good) shading to imply three-dimensionality. You could make... cups, or bedposts, or... well, to be honest, the results generally resembled one of those two things. But I really loved it. I can't remember what the program was.
posted by Wolfdog at 11:53 AM on October 10, 2013
posted by Wolfdog at 11:53 AM on October 10, 2013
bondcliff, send it to me! I have a mac 512 that probably still works. I'll try to boot it tonight and verify.
posted by scose at 11:59 AM on October 10, 2013 [2 favorites]
posted by scose at 11:59 AM on October 10, 2013 [2 favorites]
Nostalgia indeed! Two items I associate with MacPaint
- Age 13 or 14 I must have spent weeks doing a version of the Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy cover in MacPaint. Pixel . . . by . . . Pixel. That file may still be around 30 years (!) later, here is a historically inaccurate version of what it looked like, I just mocked it up in Photoshop in 30 seconds.
- My MacPaint obsession collided with my comics obsession in the form of Shatter, the first comic to be done completely in MacPaint. Imagine a world . . . where all comics are created with computer . . .
bondcliff, send it to me! I have a mac 512 that probably still works. I'll try to boot it tonight and verify.
HOLY SHIT! If I can dig it up (I'm 90% sure I still have it), I will! Let me look and probably get back to you next week (going away tomorrow) and if you can pull this off you will be on my very short list of Metafilter heroes and I will maybe even send you something for your troubles.
Are you able to get it from the 512 to, you know, the internets?
posted by bondcliff at 12:09 PM on October 10, 2013
HOLY SHIT! If I can dig it up (I'm 90% sure I still have it), I will! Let me look and probably get back to you next week (going away tomorrow) and if you can pull this off you will be on my very short list of Metafilter heroes and I will maybe even send you something for your troubles.
Are you able to get it from the 512 to, you know, the internets?
posted by bondcliff at 12:09 PM on October 10, 2013
Looks like noone has linked to macpaint.org yet? The gallery shows you that some folks could do some pretty amazing work with those limitations.
posted by jeremias at 12:12 PM on October 10, 2013 [2 favorites]
posted by jeremias at 12:12 PM on October 10, 2013 [2 favorites]
Pope Guilty,
Is this Atkinson Dithering site the one you’re thinking of?
posted by jabah at 12:25 PM on October 10, 2013 [3 favorites]
Is this Atkinson Dithering site the one you’re thinking of?
posted by jabah at 12:25 PM on October 10, 2013 [3 favorites]
The first Mac I saw - first gen - was running MacPaint in a store demo.
My bro and I drew a crude face, then used the spray can to create a beard. We then used the eraser to create the "shaving game", which was a huge thrill (and very memorable) for some reason. The excitement of using a mouse/GUI, I guess. Good times!
posted by L. Ron McKenzie at 12:25 PM on October 10, 2013
My bro and I drew a crude face, then used the spray can to create a beard. We then used the eraser to create the "shaving game", which was a huge thrill (and very memorable) for some reason. The excitement of using a mouse/GUI, I guess. Good times!
posted by L. Ron McKenzie at 12:25 PM on October 10, 2013
Are you able to get it from the 512 to, you know, the internets?
Hmmm, that might be a little more difficult. A camera may be involved.
posted by scose at 12:30 PM on October 10, 2013
Hmmm, that might be a little more difficult. A camera may be involved.
posted by scose at 12:30 PM on October 10, 2013
I can't make it go! It appears, and all the tools are selectable — but I can't paint! And that was really the point of MacPaint, if I remember correctly, the painting.
posted by BlackLeotardFront at 12:49 PM on October 10, 2013 [1 favorite]
posted by BlackLeotardFront at 12:49 PM on October 10, 2013 [1 favorite]
Pope guilty: There's an OSX app called Hyperdither which also emulates different dithering techniques — I understand that Hypercard had some unique dithering going on which the app emulates.
posted by monocultured at 1:18 PM on October 10, 2013
posted by monocultured at 1:18 PM on October 10, 2013
It's not working so well on my android phone, so I can't wait to get to a real computer and play with this. I've been missing 8 sided mirrored paintbrushes for decades. Trippy mandalas everywhere.
Has anyone figured out if it's possible to import and save images without connecting to Facebook?
I'd love it if I could save and print my little digital scribblings without Facebook. Hope someone way smarter than me can answer this.
posted by marsha56 at 1:35 PM on October 10, 2013
Has anyone figured out if it's possible to import and save images without connecting to Facebook?
I'd love it if I could save and print my little digital scribblings without Facebook. Hope someone way smarter than me can answer this.
posted by marsha56 at 1:35 PM on October 10, 2013
I can't make it go! It appears, and all the tools are selectable — but I can't paint!
Works for me on Windows in IE10 only, not Firefox or Chrome, exactly as you describe. Amusingly. Very HTML5...
posted by alasdair at 1:35 PM on October 10, 2013 [1 favorite]
Works for me on Windows in IE10 only, not Firefox or Chrome, exactly as you describe. Amusingly. Very HTML5...
posted by alasdair at 1:35 PM on October 10, 2013 [1 favorite]
Thanks Alasdair. Good to know. I have a Macbook at home. I may have to go to the library to try this out.
posted by marsha56 at 1:42 PM on October 10, 2013
posted by marsha56 at 1:42 PM on October 10, 2013
Is this Atkinson Dithering site the one you’re thinking of?
That's the one, thanks!
posted by Pope Guilty at 1:53 PM on October 10, 2013
That's the one, thanks!
posted by Pope Guilty at 1:53 PM on October 10, 2013
I have had Macs at home since May of 1984, so I spent a lot of time playing with the original MacPaint. This is neat, but:
(1) The text for the menus should have been handled as bitmaps instead of vector fonts.
(2) I don’t think the spray paint tool is working correctly. I believe the original switched between two different spray patterns so it didn’t make lines when drawing at slow speeds. (Am I misremembering???)
(3) When zooming the entire interface to 2x, I was disappointed that the pixels in the drawing area (and pattern palette) don’t also become scaled up (when drawing in this mode also).
posted by D.C. at 3:42 PM on October 10, 2013
(1) The text for the menus should have been handled as bitmaps instead of vector fonts.
(2) I don’t think the spray paint tool is working correctly. I believe the original switched between two different spray patterns so it didn’t make lines when drawing at slow speeds. (Am I misremembering???)
(3) When zooming the entire interface to 2x, I was disappointed that the pixels in the drawing area (and pattern palette) don’t also become scaled up (when drawing in this mode also).
posted by D.C. at 3:42 PM on October 10, 2013
About a year ago, I pulled my ancient Mac 512 down out of the attic specifically so my wife could play with MacPaint 1.0. She was impressed for all of about 30 seconds. Unfortunately my LC640 with Adobe PS 1.0 didn't boot so I was spared that indignity. These millennials, don't know how good they got it... what with 8 bit color and whatnot.
posted by 1f2frfbf at 4:55 PM on October 10, 2013
posted by 1f2frfbf at 4:55 PM on October 10, 2013
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