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One of these is actually awesome
posted by ook at 5:32 PM on November 14, 2013 [2 favorites]


Just the one, tho
posted by ook at 5:33 PM on November 14, 2013


WHICH ONE
posted by stoneandstar at 5:33 PM on November 14, 2013


NOT SAYIN
posted by ook at 5:33 PM on November 14, 2013


oh ok fine it was the buffalo wings
posted by ook at 5:34 PM on November 14, 2013 [8 favorites]


All about the drop? I thought we had moved on from that, through trap and trap-reggaeton mashups and plowed straight into early 90's revival? I swear to god, I thought I heard C.J. Bollard on the crappy sattelite techno station, but it was just a reasonable facsimile.
posted by Slap*Happy at 5:42 PM on November 14, 2013


These are going to go great on my xX[420][MLG] 360 NOSCOPE BLAZE IT!Xx video compilations.
posted by Ad hominem at 5:46 PM on November 14, 2013 [9 favorites]


When you listen to them in the order they are listed on SoundCloud, I love the escalation of the tactic. We start with the merely incongruous, then we move into novelty territory, the outright wrong genre of music, some guy hawking fast food, a bloody Disney movie, an old YouTube fad, and then finally WE HIT TURBULENCE! It's like he's trying to prove a point, but each time, somebody doesn't get it and thinks it seriously is the best drop ever, so he sighs and comes up with something even more wrong as if that will solve the problem. He could do a RickRoll drop still I suppose. After that, there is literally nothing left and he'll probably just explode.
posted by zachlipton at 5:49 PM on November 14, 2013 [29 favorites]


Smash cut to 2018, as a pounding room full of frenzied people suddenly brandish ornate folding chairs and china cups and somehow, balletically, all fall into place for high tea in time for a drop.
posted by lucidium at 6:09 PM on November 14, 2013 [14 favorites]


The last one is kind of amazing, but the filet of fish sandwich gives it a run for its money. It's almost reminiscent of that "most hated music" thing. Except of course much shorter.

Lucidum if that were an animated .gif I would watch it on repeat for 3h instead of working
posted by en forme de poire at 6:10 PM on November 14, 2013 [1 favorite]


Is the fact that I would actually both laugh and dance to the Gangnam Style one a fail or a win for this DJ? Or is it sort of a superposition of states?
posted by en forme de poire at 6:11 PM on November 14, 2013 [5 favorites]


I'm diggin' it because I can't dance and hate almost all dance music, and the mental pictures I'm getting are just great.
posted by Halloween Jack at 6:15 PM on November 14, 2013


I would and am happily listening to this on repeat. I demand a full mixtape. I think this guy/girl just invented a new genre of music.
posted by naju at 6:17 PM on November 14, 2013


I personally liked the Imogen Heap one best (although Filet-o-Fish is also really great), partly because it was the first one I listened to so it had the biggest surprise element but also because the transition almost sounds like it could really be a drop. Also, I think I may have actually heard a wedding DJ drop into Gangnam style and I think it super worked.

In other electronic music satire, here's a remix of Avicii's Levels (maybe turn down your headphones for this one?).
posted by mhum at 6:18 PM on November 14, 2013 [9 favorites]


I think it's the Boise one that's the sickest drop, yo.
posted by symbioid at 6:18 PM on November 14, 2013


The euphoria one is the best. I like how we all have our favorites.
posted by naju at 6:21 PM on November 14, 2013


Isn't this that harlem shaking thing you people were on about a few months ago?
posted by straight at 6:25 PM on November 14, 2013


Oh man. Even after reading the description here, I did a spit take when I heard the first "drop."
posted by schmod at 6:29 PM on November 14, 2013 [2 favorites]


Is this guy really the Mayor of Pussytown, Tonga? Where does he find the time to make such awesome music?
posted by Mister_A at 6:38 PM on November 14, 2013 [2 favorites]




funny stuff - and just whose brilliant idea was it to autotune sarah mclaughlin on "in the arms of an angel"? - a great song totally ruined by stupid production technique

i'd have made her sing it until she got the damned thing right

also, i have a confession to make - i think "photograph" is a great song - i won't bother to defend the rest of nickelback's junk, but that one's good
posted by pyramid termite at 6:54 PM on November 14, 2013


Can someone explain to my musically deficient self what a drop actually is? I googled it but I am too musically dumb to understand apparently. ;_;
posted by insufficient data at 7:10 PM on November 14, 2013 [1 favorite]


In high school my friends and I were really competitive about the transitions between songs on our mix tapes. I was really proud of one where I switched the messy ending of some song--a crescendo of static, if I recall correctly, like at the end of "I Want You (She's So Heavy)"--into the staccato doom beat of Portishead's "All Mine".

The day I showed it to them, I left that tape with those so-called friends. When I got it back, the hissy crescendo culminated not with "All Mine", but with a radio voice yelling "Arby's Beef and Cheddar, oh yeah? Oh yeah! The new Arby's Beef and Cheddar sandwich..."

So, the filet one resonated with me.
posted by Beardman at 7:10 PM on November 14, 2013 [8 favorites]


HAHA YES, I do this when I'm out with friends and we're like singing or humming songs or there is some annoying music in the background

"It's a small world af! ter! all!
(inhale deeply)
..


BWAAAAHHHHHHHWUBWUBWUBWUBWUB"

Also my wife was putting Visine in her eyes and right as she timidly squeezed the bottle I said "HERE COMES THE DRAAHHHHHHP" and she fucking squirted it all over her face
The world's first ocular spit-take
posted by jake at 7:12 PM on November 14, 2013 [39 favorites]


insufficient data: Can someone explain to my musically deficient self what a drop actually is? I googled it but I am too musically dumb to understand apparently. ;_;

It's typically a "break" in the music. It has a lot of different forms depending on the genre of music and, AFAIK, is typically considered a bridge if you were to structure it that way (don't quote me on that though). So in really popular electronic dance music right now ("dubstep", Skrillex stuff, etc.) the drop usually comes right after a very large build up that is really intense, lots of high frequency noises, etc, then gets really heavy. In hip-hop and rap it's called a "break" I think, and in hardcore metal and music like that it's called a breakdown, which is when people mosh.
posted by gucci mane at 7:14 PM on November 14, 2013 [6 favorites]


feeling slightly let down by the absence of Gregorian chants, Tuvan throat singing or Newfoundland whaling shanties
posted by George_Spiggott at 7:14 PM on November 14, 2013 [10 favorites]


> Can someone explain to my musically deficient self what a drop actually is?

previously
posted by postcommunism at 7:23 PM on November 14, 2013 [1 favorite]


He could do a RickRoll drop still I suppose. After that, there is literally nothing left and he'll probably just explode.

It's not over until someone drops "True" by Spandau Ballet.
posted by George_Spiggott at 7:26 PM on November 14, 2013 [5 favorites]


It's typically a "break" in the music. It has a lot of different forms depending on the genre of music and, AFAIK, is typically considered a bridge if you were to structure it that way (don't quote me on that though). So in really popular electronic dance music right now ("dubstep", Skrillex stuff, etc.) the drop usually comes right after a very large build up that is really intense, lots of high frequency noises, etc, then gets really heavy. In hip-hop and rap it's called a "break" I think, and in hardcore metal and music like that it's called a breakdown, which is when people mosh.

This is actually wrong. The 'breakdown' is what this guy is making fun of here... that's the part where the beat drops out. The "drop" is when the beat comes back, something that's actually absent in these. It's 'drop' as in 'yo dj, drop the bass'. Usually in EDM, you have a breakdown, which ends in a 'build' (snare roll, sirens, etc) followed by the drop, where the beat comes back in.

The 'break' in hip-hop is the beat itself.
posted by empath at 7:40 PM on November 14, 2013 [13 favorites]


In this song, a breakdown starts at :55, the build starts at 1:00, and then the drop is at 1:09.
posted by empath at 7:43 PM on November 14, 2013 [3 favorites]


The term drop migrated over to house music from D&B, where good djs did something called 'double drops' where they would mix two records so the drop for both records would line up after a breakdown, which was really hard to do with vinyl (and trivial with stuff like Ableton Live).
posted by empath at 7:48 PM on November 14, 2013 [4 favorites]


i learned something new and not-trival today...

thank you empath.

i just turn my headphones UP for @@ remixes, btw... it's the only way.
posted by raihan_ at 7:51 PM on November 14, 2013


Also, 'drop' stops looking like a word if you read it enough.
posted by empath at 7:54 PM on November 14, 2013 [1 favorite]


empath: This is actually wrong. The 'breakdown' is what this guy is making fun of here... that's the part where the beat drops out. The "drop" is when the beat comes back, something that's actually absent in these. It's 'drop' as in 'yo dj, drop the bass'. Usually in EDM, you have a breakdown, which ends in a 'build' (snare roll, sirens, etc) followed by the drop, where the beat comes back in.

The 'break' in hip-hop is the beat itself.


Hmm...that's what I meant. Am I getting this wrong? When I re-read it it seems like we're describing the same thing. You said the build is at 1:00, then the drop is at 1:09, which is what I described ("the drop comes after a large build up").
posted by gucci mane at 7:58 PM on November 14, 2013


I always figured a breakdown and a drop were sort of the same thing, because they have a lot of the same characteristics, but I guess a breakdown in EDM is different than in metal/hardcore. For example, in this song (warning: harsh noise, growling vocals) the build up starts around :40, then the breakdown is at :57, and that would count as a drop in that respective genre of music.
posted by gucci mane at 8:03 PM on November 14, 2013


I also compare the two because on New Years a couple of years ago I was in this basement and there was this DJ who had a hypeman and after New Years hit and everyone was done kissing the DJ started playing some insane dubstep and as soon as the drop hit everyone just started moshing super hard. It was like being at a hardcore show.
posted by gucci mane at 8:05 PM on November 14, 2013


And in case anyone's interested, the reason a hip hop beat can also be called a break is because they were originally all sampled from 70s songs that had a drum break in the middle, where the rest of the band stops playing and the drummer just lays down the beat. Makes for a natural sample to put other stuff on top of.
posted by echo target at 8:05 PM on November 14, 2013 [3 favorites]


When I re-read it it seems like we're describing the same thing. You said the build is at 1:00, then the drop is at 1:09, which is what I described ("the drop comes after a large build up").

the drop has a beat, the breakdown does not.

The build is a separate thing that can occur in a breakdown or before one, and sometimes leads into a drop and sometimes leads into a breakdown.
posted by empath at 8:08 PM on November 14, 2013 [1 favorite]


It kinda sucks that EDM is so associated with this formulaic bullshit now. There are whole genres of EDM that don't really have builds or 'drops' at all.
posted by empath at 8:13 PM on November 14, 2013 [4 favorites]


At the risk of posting too much in this thread-- tracks with big builds and drops are great, in moderation. Like once in a two hour set. It can make the difference between a meh set and one that blows peoples minds. The problem is partially because of Beatport and the way they preview tracks -- they take a 2 minute clip, usually just the breakdown and build because it's the most attention grabbing part of the track. So people browsing just listen for the biggest, most over the top build and buy it -- which makes the top of the charts at beatport one cheesy 'anthem' after another.

And guess what, being at the top of the beatport charts gets you gigs. So all these guys making these cheesy anthems get crowds that want to come out and hear cheesy anthems, so they play them all night long, one after the other. And subtlety kind of falls by the wayside. Nobody takes the time to set the stage, tell a story, take people on a journey or whatever.

I think EDM is going to head to a big crash as people realize that paying $200 to go to a festival so you can hear 35 djs all playing the exact same records for 2 days is a waste of money and time. Then it'll go back to the underground again. Deep house is getting to be trendy in places like LA, New York, Berlin and London right now for a reason. People are getting tired of the bullshit and just want to dance.
posted by empath at 8:36 PM on November 14, 2013 [5 favorites]


EDM as an acronym is broad, but practically it's a specific term: as far as I can tell, EDM denotes a narrow stretch of shitty American arena music from the last 5 years.

Tarring great house or techno with EDM brush is really unfortunate. But the term is a good enough shibboleth for people who haven't listened to much good electronic music.
posted by serif at 8:38 PM on November 14, 2013 [4 favorites]


The last one should just be a build that never ends.
posted by spaltavian at 8:59 PM on November 14, 2013


The last one should just be a build that never ends.

funny you should say that..
posted by threeants at 9:03 PM on November 14, 2013 [1 favorite]


mhum: "In other electronic music satire, here's a remix of Avicii's Levels (maybe turn down your headphones for this one?)."

I normally don't really commend trolls, but man... trolling SoundCloud takes effort. Well played, sir. I commend your prodigious use of the airhorn.
posted by schmod at 10:10 PM on November 14, 2013


spaltavian: "The last one should just be a build that never ends."

yes, it goes on and on, my friend
posted by schmod at 10:11 PM on November 14, 2013 [1 favorite]


Y'all wanna hear the sickest drop look no further than D.J. Detweiler's remix of jungle classic Super Sharp Shooter.

lots more where that came from
posted by jeffj at 11:48 PM on November 14, 2013 [10 favorites]


Pretty much what empath and serif said. The drop is when the beat kicks in, not when it drops out. Maybe that is the cause for the Mayor of Pussytown's confusion.

People have been having fun with drops since the 1970's, i.e. since DJs started cutting, scratching and creating break beats. Disco DJs who created their own mixes of tracks live on the turntables would do this. Dropping the beat out and bringing it back in again is pretty much your primary device. The trick those days was generally to keep the beat going without gaps or what is now referred to as 'breaks'. Once they started recording these mixes house music was born. I can't point you at an early track that does this, but I am sure there is somebody who knows more about the early re-edits and mixes made at this time who can.

Here is one from 1986, and here is another notorious one from 1989. Notice how the bpm has increased over that time.

I have heard it said on multiple occasions that if you wish to keep a party going for a long time (I am talking days) then keeping the beat going at a steady 110-120bpm is your best bet. And I mean keeping the beat going, no breaks, build ups or drops. Keep it groovy.

jeffj, that Super Sharp Shooter remix is just fucking hilarious. I am pretty sure it would get you actually shot had you played it at a junglist dance in 1996 had it existed then, but it might have been worth it.
posted by asok at 2:25 AM on November 15, 2013


Oh, here's another example of the beat dropping from 1986 with a handy vocal cue. Trigger warning for Mefites, this is the Beatie Boys and mentions MCA.
posted by asok at 2:31 AM on November 15, 2013


zachlipton: "and then finally WE HIT TURBULENCE!"
That's "WE HAD TERRIBLE HATS!" of course.
posted by brokkr at 3:27 AM on November 15, 2013


No no no, allay'all back up stop and check jeffj's D.J. Detweiler's remix then stop and move again. F'serious.
posted by artof.mulata at 3:34 AM on November 15, 2013 [1 favorite]


I have heard it said on multiple occasions that if you wish to keep a party going for a long time (I am talking days) then keeping the beat going at a steady 110-120bpm is your best bet. And I mean keeping the beat going, no breaks, build ups or drops. Keep it groovy.

120 is at the low end for deep house and minimal techno, which is what they play at the weekend long parties at berghain. 118-125, roughly.
posted by empath at 3:49 AM on November 15, 2013


The current fascination with 'drops' is part of the inevitable commercialization. It's the seldom-occurring 'pay-off' the reinforces the behaviour. Lather, rinse, repeat.

tl; dr: Fuck the *star* DJ. They're the reason we can't have nice things.
posted by mikelieman at 4:11 AM on November 15, 2013


Chalk up another first for The Beatles? The explicit 'build-breakdown-drop' formula starts at around 1.25 into 'Day Tripper' (1965).
posted by colie at 4:46 AM on November 15, 2013


It's the seldom-occurring 'pay-off' the reinforces the behaviour.

So wait. It happens all the time in some NY/Las Vegas mega clubs, which is shit according to empath, or it is teased out infrequently as a pavlovian reward according to mikelieman.

Makes one want to have a dance, though.
posted by bystander at 5:07 AM on November 15, 2013


I'm not sure that's mutually exclusive. While the 'programming' is based on a PERCEIVED scarcity, in Vegas the slot machines never stop ringing, do they?

I think the 'churn' in the clubs in NY and Vegas is high enough that if you're going to satisfy the people there for an hour, you have to increase they payout frequency. What's that gag where the supper club celebrates midnight on NYE every hour, on the hour?
posted by mikelieman at 5:38 AM on November 15, 2013 [2 favorites]


Asok: "Pretty much what empath and serif said. The drop is when the beat kicks in, not when it drops out. Maybe that is the cause for the Mayor of Pussytown's confusion."

ok i guess this is really confusing to me, because I thought that this is what the soundcloud was making fun of. Really, really bad beats kicking in after the buildup. The fact that there is no pause with no music playing, to me, is insignificant.

for me the joke is that after build build build, instead of optimus prime taking a dump, it's twinkle twinkle little star.
posted by rebent at 6:03 AM on November 15, 2013 [2 favorites]


I just gotta say, from my position behind the bar one of the things that's real thin on the ground at EDM shows is dancing.

Lotta standing around holding cell-phones up at ~45° to get grainy images of a back-lit silhouette pressing "play" and "next track" and (I assume) twiddling knobs or somehow otherwise earning their keep while bright, epilepterrific light shows & confetti abound.

But minimal dancing qua dancing.
posted by Pirate-Bartender-Zombie-Monkey at 8:12 AM on November 15, 2013 [1 favorite]


bright, epilepterrific light shows

As an ageing hippie, let me just offer that the new(er) LED based fixtures, due to the ability to dial in really narrow bandwidth, can get really INTENSE. Like "I wish I had my sunglasses" intense, not "WOW! THE COLORS! intense..." so... eplepterrific is my new favourite word.
posted by mikelieman at 8:38 AM on November 15, 2013 [1 favorite]


epilepterrific light shows & confetti

Hey, were you at that Kavinsky show too?

Srs tho, I agree that I wish the indie-culture thing of standing around and not dancing hadn't spilled over into EDM as soon as it became "okay" for hip young people to listen to it again. Even the most brotacular up-and-down-hop is better for the mood of the room than just staring like you have all the anhedonia and you'll give it to anyone who brushes against you.

(I actually really dug Kavinsky's light show, though, so.)
posted by en forme de poire at 9:50 AM on November 15, 2013


Chalk up another first for The Beatles?

I don't know, this technique is really as old as time. I'm sure you can find folk songs that repeat a discordant phrase an "extra" time or two before the chorus to build up tension. Certainly you see it in classical music and jazz.
posted by en forme de poire at 9:52 AM on November 15, 2013


These are going to go great on my xX[420][MLG] 360 NOSCOPE BLAZE IT!Xx video compilations.

There's a place for those who enjoy mocking both COD montages and ridiculous drops. I think you'll like it.
posted by Blue Meanie at 9:54 AM on November 15, 2013 [1 favorite]


There's a place for those who enjoy mocking both COD montages and ridiculous drops. I think you'll like it.

Such 420 no scope.
posted by Ad hominem at 10:04 AM on November 15, 2013


I'm sure you can find folk songs that repeat a discordant phrase an "extra" time or two before the chorus to build up tension.

But the 'build-breakdown-drop' thing is not done as an intro to a chorus in Day Tripper or in these EDM examples.

My guess is the reason it is so prevalent now is because EDM has very little control of tension and release in its structure or phrase rhythm. Melody and harmony tend to be proudly nursery-rhyme simple, counterpoint is non-existent, and rhythm necessarily has to favour brute force repetition over surprise.

So you're left with few options other than a 'build' to get tension and release into the music. I would expect most of these builds happen on the V chord before a verse-like element, as in Day Tripper (which is itself an update of the Twist and Shout shouting 'ahh' build).
posted by colie at 10:04 AM on November 15, 2013


Melody and harmony tend to be proudly nursery-rhyme simple, counterpoint is non-existent, and rhythm necessarily has to favour brute force repetition over surprise.

lol. so you like EDM a lot, right?
posted by en forme de poire at 10:09 AM on November 15, 2013


I can enjoy EDM in the right context, but the genre seems happy to resist analysis from any point of view that suits tonal music... guys like Avicii make me think of a modern update of the massively popular big band leaders from the 40s - and who listens to that now?
posted by colie at 10:17 AM on November 15, 2013


Nothing about what you said is true. EDM can get incredibly sophisticated. And there is no verse chorus verse structure.
posted by empath at 10:22 AM on November 15, 2013 [1 favorite]


schmod: "I normally don't really commend trolls, but man... trolling SoundCloud takes effort. Well played, sir. I commend your prodigious use of the airhorn."

Whoops. Didn't mean to give the impression that I did that. I was just linking to someone else's (specifically @@'s) work.
posted by mhum at 10:28 AM on November 15, 2013


In what way is the linked track sophisticated? Genuine question.

A quick scan seemed to me: Harmony = static. Melody = repetitive, limited number of scale degrees used. Structure = open-ended elaboration of a simple motif. The fact that there's no structure in the conventional song sense doesn't have to be a problem, but I'm just wondering what you replace it with in order to get tension? A kind of ambient shifting surface of many textures and pseudo-exotic timbres seems to be the case here...
Anyway I'm not trying to put down anyone's taste in music, just interested in what this very popular genre has in common or not with previous pop music styles...
:-)
posted by colie at 10:33 AM on November 15, 2013


Yes, exploring timbre and texture is a lot of what makes EDM interesting. They tend not to to have two many key changes because it makes it difficult to mix. A good Dj changes keys between songs, though, to create a sense of going somewhere. Just put the song on in headphones and close your eyes. Try to follow the lead as each hook bubbles up and gets buried in an endlessly shifting landscape. It's music that's meant to get lost in. You have to imagine listen to one song like that after another for hours, while dancing. It's the cumulative effect that matters.

Commercial EDM of the kind being made fun of in this thread doesn't have that quality, it's just bombastic lowest common denominator obviousness. It has it's place in festivals full of e'd up teenagers, but it shouldn't represent EDM.
posted by empath at 10:41 AM on November 15, 2013 [1 favorite]


Meh, these were OK, but the Super Sharp Shooter remix jeffj linked to had me actually crying with laughter. THANKS JEFFJ!
posted by ZipRibbons at 11:37 AM on November 15, 2013


Oh god, I was laughing along with these until Bambi, and now I'm sad.
posted by TypographicalError at 11:38 AM on November 15, 2013


Spot on rebent, my bad. Here is one of my favourite breakdowns as a humble offering.

Sounds about right empath, 120bpm is the disco bpm traditionally.

colie, as empath says there is more to dance music than listening to individual tracks. There are DJs who do 'musical' mixing. Having said that, there are also tracks which have develop musical themes along the lines you suggest. We are talking about musical form that has been around for at least 35 years, there is a lot to get through! There is a huge variation in what is going on across the world of dance music every day, whole genres of music with no drops at all.

There was a time in the early 90's when Sasha was known for only playing breakdowns and intros with short bursts of beat. Incidentally his mix with John Digweed called Northern Exposure has plenty of lovely melodic content.

But what we are talking about is music for dancing to, just as prog rock is full of musical ideas but shite for dancing to, funk is melodically simpler but makes you want to dance your ass off. Apples and oranges.

If you want to talk about complexity in dance music then consider Afro-Cuban rumba (starts with a breakdown and drop) there is melody in the singing and in the poly-rhythm. This is Rumbata from Camaguey playing to an enthusiastic crowd at the regular street party at Callejon de Hamel in Havana. You could do a Phd on this song alone.
posted by asok at 12:01 PM on November 15, 2013 [1 favorite]


Anyway, I only came back here to listen to Super Sharp Fluter again. Got distracted.
posted by asok at 12:02 PM on November 15, 2013


Mmmm a filet-o-fish?
posted by bleucube at 12:13 PM on November 15, 2013


In other electronic music satire, here's a remix of Avicii's Levels (maybe turn down your headphones for this one?).

Needs more cowbell.
posted by A dead Quaker at 12:16 PM on November 15, 2013


D.J. Detweiler wins.
posted by larrybob at 1:35 PM on November 15, 2013


more EDM that has a lot more going on than a drop - the first one is mostly about timbre and texture, the second one has more of a balance between harmonic and timbral elements.

incidentally, EDM threads (and to some extent hip-hop) often seem to descend into "argue with someone who hasn't heard much of this genre but nevertheless seems to think that it is inherently unsophisticated/non-innovative/etc compared to the music they like." not that anyone pushed this thread that way intentionally, but it's a dynamic to watch out for because it tends to raise people's hackles and also derail the thread.
posted by en forme de poire at 2:01 PM on November 15, 2013


Why isn't EDM open to analysis by anyone with ears just like any other form of tonal music?
posted by colie at 3:21 PM on November 15, 2013


Edm is plenty open to analysis if you listen to it enough to have an informed opinion about it.
posted by empath at 3:44 PM on November 15, 2013 [4 favorites]


Needs a donk on it.
posted by Evilspork at 4:06 PM on November 15, 2013 [5 favorites]


Needs a banging donk on it.
posted by PeterMcDermott at 5:55 PM on November 15, 2013 [1 favorite]


Two things:

My late grandmother loved filet-o-fish sandwiches.

Filet-o-fish sandwiches have cheese.

Make of that what-you-will.
posted by panaceanot at 5:53 AM on November 17, 2013


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