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November 17, 2013 9:02 PM   Subscribe

50 years after the assassination of John F. Kennedy, many of us willl find a moment to reflect... June Oswald had these words in 2009.
posted by HuronBob (27 comments total) 5 users marked this as a favorite

 
This interview is from 1993 or thereabouts, I think.
posted by gubo at 9:16 PM on November 17, 2013 [1 favorite]


Looks like 1988.
posted by 256 at 9:19 PM on November 17, 2013


The actual 50th anniversary of the tragedy is this coming Friday. It's going to be a hell of a week.

Can we at least arrange that, for every two JFK Assassination threads, we can have one for the 50th anniversary of Doctor Who (two days later)?
posted by oneswellfoop at 9:20 PM on November 17, 2013 [6 favorites]


This interview is from 1993 or thereabouts, I think

Looks like 1988

She refers to "30 years later" in the interview.
posted by anothermug at 9:28 PM on November 17, 2013


And they mention the Posner book, Case Closed, which came out in '93.
posted by gubo at 9:30 PM on November 17, 2013 [1 favorite]


The actual 50th anniversary of the tragedy is this coming Friday. It's going to be a hell of a week.

Isn't there some deadline that will soon expire, where a lot of evidence or testimony will be released that was, heretofore, kept secret? Can't wait to find out what Tricky Dick knew!
posted by Blazecock Pileon at 9:35 PM on November 17, 2013


50 years after? WTF?

Is Alvin Lee gonna start singing "I'd love to Change The World." because it is actually Ten Years After.
posted by timsteil at 9:48 PM on November 17, 2013


Isn't there some deadline that will soon expire, where a lot of evidence or testimony will be released that was, heretofore, kept secret?

2017 is the year you are thinking of.
posted by hippybear at 10:15 PM on November 17, 2013 [1 favorite]


I just finished reading Adam Gopnik's article in The New Yorker about the Kennedy Assassination from a couple of weeks ago, and it was a really excellent read. Cuts to the quick and examines conspiracy theories and theorists in a lucid way. I recommend it for anyone interested in this upcoming anniversary.
posted by hippybear at 10:20 PM on November 17, 2013 [5 favorites]


... I gave up after 1:45.

pity, because the interesting stuff starts around 3:30 when she addresses the fact that her mother as much as admitted to the Warren Commission that her father would've killed anybody in order to get into the newspapers ...

a statement that she (Oswald's wife) would come to retract for ... reasons
posted by philip-random at 11:24 PM on November 17, 2013 [1 favorite]


Isn't there some deadline that will soon expire, where a lot of evidence or testimony will be released that was, heretofore, kept secret?

Pretty much everything has been released, and in fact very little remained sealed after as early as 1968. What's trickled out since then has been mostly to do with spy techniques and some CIA identities that had to be protected, etc. No real bombshells.
posted by ShutterBun at 11:45 PM on November 17, 2013


Here's Oswald's other daughter, Rachel, around the same time frame. (1991)
posted by ShutterBun at 1:31 AM on November 18, 2013


Sorry about the incorrect date... It was "uploaded" in 2009. My brain was evidently not working last night...
posted by HuronBob at 4:08 AM on November 18, 2013


Note that she wants to know "what happened in November 1963" when her father was assassinated by that second gunman, but the official line is that Ruby too acted alone.
posted by three blind mice at 4:23 AM on November 18, 2013


This interview is from 1993 or thereabouts, I think

Looks like 1988



Timey-wimey at its finest!!
posted by Renoroc at 5:24 AM on November 18, 2013 [2 favorites]


Sorry about the incorrect date... It was "uploaded" in 2009. My brain was evidently not working last night...

or... you are trying to cover-up the cover-up of the cover-up. I'm wise to you!
posted by GenjiandProust at 5:31 AM on November 18, 2013 [1 favorite]


There were a lot of those hairstyles in Dallas in 1998.
posted by bukvich at 5:33 AM on November 18, 2013


The actual 50th anniversary of the tragedy is this coming Friday. It's going to be a hell of a week.

PBS has been in full-Kennedy mode since last week. I expect the more sordid networks (History, Discover, etc.) to start blanketing us with their "Did Aliens kill JFK?" fare this week.
posted by Thorzdad at 5:50 AM on November 18, 2013


PBS has been in full-Kennedy mode since last week. I expect the more sordid networks (History, Discover, etc.) to start blanketing us with their "Did Aliens kill JFK?" fare this week.

Indeed. I was wondering if the PBS documentary Cold Case JFK would put to rest the conspiracy nonsense of more than 1 shooter. I suspect it will be largely ignored by those who "believe" otherwise and in Sasquatch.
posted by juiceCake at 6:23 AM on November 18, 2013


would put to rest the conspiracy nonsense of more than 1 shooter. I suspect it will be largely ignored by those who "believe" otherwise and in Sasquatch.

I doubt I have the energy to really respond to this effectively, so I'll just grab some verbiage from a recent JFK-assassination thread ...

As I've already suggested in this thread, I don't think we'll ever know for sure either way who killed JFK? And/or why [...] because the further we get from something, the less precise the memory we have of it, the more we're filtering through the evidence, piecing together some kind of secondary understanding of what really happened.

So the issue of a suspicion that won't seem to die (that we've been lied to by the powers that be about who killed the President in almost fifty years ago) feels more powerful than whatever the truth of it really is/was. We don't trust the powers that be. Fundamentally. Some of us anyway.

I mean, what incontrovertible evidence could there even be that someone other than Oswald killed JFK? A death bed confession from somebody who was part of it? How many minds would that really change? Some previously suppressed 8mm footage that distinctly shows another shooter? That kind of thing could be faked.

It's all questions at this point, feeding more questions.


Or like as the title of the previous thread suggests: "It’s almost like history is a kind of snake swallowing its tail."

And, for the record, I don't "believe" in Sasquatch even if my uncle did see one once.
posted by philip-random at 9:09 AM on November 18, 2013


I saw part of the PBS Nova special Cold Case JFK, which provided an excellent forensic debunking of the conspiracy theorists' criticisms of the Single Bullet Theory. Highly-recommended viewing, for anyone interested.

Also recommended: Vincent Bugliosi's Reclaiming History. It's looong, but thorough.
posted by Atom Eyes at 9:21 AM on November 18, 2013 [1 favorite]


Can't wait to find out what Tricky Dick knew!

Not much, I shouldn't think. He was on an airplane at the time. Dallas to NYC, as it happened. He had been in Dallas working as a corporate lawyer for PepsiCo, and only heard the news when he arrived back home.

Or so they say....
posted by IndigoJones at 12:24 PM on November 18, 2013 [1 favorite]


And, for the record, I don't "believe" in Sasquatch even if my uncle did see one once.

It's pronounced "samsquanch."

posted by Madamina at 1:24 PM on November 18, 2013


Or like as the title of the previous thread suggests: "It’s almost like history is a kind of snake swallowing its tail."

Ok. I doubt I have response because none of that made any sense and has nothing to do with examining the evidence and showing that indeed the evidence shows there was one shooter in a very precise manner.
posted by juiceCake at 3:37 PM on November 18, 2013


Michael Parenti's 1996 essay on the assassination has me swinging back over to the conspiracy side of the fence. One thing I can't figure out, however, is if it was a conspiracy of intelligence agencies, what does it matter if anyone found out today? Who are the winners and losers in that scenario?
posted by mecran01 at 12:36 AM on November 19, 2013 [1 favorite]


if it was a conspiracy of intelligence agencies, what does it matter if anyone found out today? Who are the winners and losers in that scenario?

Any agency who would employ Oswald as an agent would be extremely embarrassed, I should think.
posted by ShutterBun at 4:46 AM on November 21, 2013


It's always confounded me that conspiracy buffs believe that Oswald was simultaneously
a. A brilliant, well-trained, black ops super spy
*and*
b. A naive patsy who openly fraternized with right wingers, despite the fact he was trying to pass as a commie, and couldn't shoot the broad side of a barn
posted by Atom Eyes at 8:49 AM on November 21, 2013 [1 favorite]


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