January 2, 2002
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something unsettling about both i think-
posted by monkeyJuice at 4:37 AM on January 2, 2002
posted by monkeyJuice at 4:37 AM on January 2, 2002
Wow, I could have my very own Cletus the Fetus. I bet they'd make great presents for newly weds. And the idea of buying a fetus for Jesus sounds appealing.
And is more than one fetus "fetuses" or "feti"?
posted by Keen at 4:55 AM on January 2, 2002
And is more than one fetus "fetuses" or "feti"?
posted by Keen at 4:55 AM on January 2, 2002
I assume the shock wave from the End of The World is still rolling across the Pacific...time for another drink?
Definitely.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 5:15 AM on January 2, 2002
Definitely.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 5:15 AM on January 2, 2002
metafilterians know where to go for content like this.
posted by quonsar at 5:38 AM on January 2, 2002
posted by quonsar at 5:38 AM on January 2, 2002
The Compassionate Friends: Grief support after the death of a child.
posted by Carol Anne at 5:58 AM on January 2, 2002
posted by Carol Anne at 5:58 AM on January 2, 2002
I suspect Link Mistress Carol works in the Library of Babel.
posted by pracowity at 6:06 AM on January 2, 2002
posted by pracowity at 6:06 AM on January 2, 2002
Come on. Can you really understand how this woman feels?
My wife and I had a friend who lost a baby at 5 weeks, and whatever it takes to ease that kind of pain, be it handmade dolls, I think the wierdness can be forgiven.
Obviously the woman who made that page was in a lot of pain -- she poses the thing and takes pictures of it? The memory of a dying child wrapped in bandages and various IV tubes isn't something I really want to hang on to (I was there when our friend lost her baby) but then again I'm not the mother.
Maybe I don't like the fact that she's making money off something like this. . . but the price of the dolls seemed relatively cheap for being entirely handmade.
posted by spslsausse at 6:23 AM on January 2, 2002
My wife and I had a friend who lost a baby at 5 weeks, and whatever it takes to ease that kind of pain, be it handmade dolls, I think the wierdness can be forgiven.
Obviously the woman who made that page was in a lot of pain -- she poses the thing and takes pictures of it? The memory of a dying child wrapped in bandages and various IV tubes isn't something I really want to hang on to (I was there when our friend lost her baby) but then again I'm not the mother.
Maybe I don't like the fact that she's making money off something like this. . . but the price of the dolls seemed relatively cheap for being entirely handmade.
posted by spslsausse at 6:23 AM on January 2, 2002
Whoa. The second link is a different story.
Refer to sarcastic responses above.
posted by spslsausse at 6:25 AM on January 2, 2002
Refer to sarcastic responses above.
posted by spslsausse at 6:25 AM on January 2, 2002
Obviously the woman who made that page was in a lot of pain -- she poses the thing and takes pictures of it?
At least she did it with a doll... Anyone else remember the mother who made a webpage shrine to her newborn that died? Complete with actual pictures? Spooky, sure, and perhaps it helped her deal with the pain... Whatever it takes, I guess.
posted by Fofer at 6:41 AM on January 2, 2002
At least she did it with a doll... Anyone else remember the mother who made a webpage shrine to her newborn that died? Complete with actual pictures? Spooky, sure, and perhaps it helped her deal with the pain... Whatever it takes, I guess.
posted by Fofer at 6:41 AM on January 2, 2002
I should have said "5 months" above. Slight difference in anatomy, there.
posted by spslsausse at 6:46 AM on January 2, 2002
posted by spslsausse at 6:46 AM on January 2, 2002
Bearing a stillborn baby, or losing a newborn, really f's you up, longterm. Here's a thread from last spring on a related topic.
posted by jpoulos at 6:46 AM on January 2, 2002
posted by jpoulos at 6:46 AM on January 2, 2002
I suspect I should have actually read the links in question. I have this bad habit of not doing that...ah well.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 6:49 AM on January 2, 2002
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 6:49 AM on January 2, 2002
If you're going to go this far, why not have wax dummies made up for all your deceased loved ones? You can plant Gramma at the dining room table, where she will consider the fake plastic fruit setting for all eternity. And little Timmy, who was tragically run over by a Zamboni, can be propped up on his bike on the sidewalk (be sure to bring him in on very hot, sunny days, though)! For added realism, a scab can be placed on Timmy's elbow or knee (only $10 extra!). Preserve your misery and grief forever!
I think it's sick. But that's what make the 'net so entertaining, so I highly encourage this sort of madness.
posted by fahfooh at 8:17 AM on January 2, 2002
I think it's sick. But that's what make the 'net so entertaining, so I highly encourage this sort of madness.
posted by fahfooh at 8:17 AM on January 2, 2002
Weird literary parallel: in Jack Womack's futuristic novel "Random Acts of Senseless Violence" a child walks around all day carrying a "My L'il Fetus" doll. Life imitating art here, or what?
Fahfooh-your comment makes me chuckle as it reminds me of the "United Appeal for the Dead" skit in John Landis' "Kentucky Fried Movie."
posted by jonmc at 8:53 AM on January 2, 2002
Fahfooh-your comment makes me chuckle as it reminds me of the "United Appeal for the Dead" skit in John Landis' "Kentucky Fried Movie."
posted by jonmc at 8:53 AM on January 2, 2002
i like how white-baby-skin is 'flesh' colored and black-baby-skin is 'toast'...
posted by rhyax at 9:06 AM on January 2, 2002
posted by rhyax at 9:06 AM on January 2, 2002
I'm with spslsausse. I've had a couple of friends who've lost small children or had miscarriages and it's absolutely devastating for them emotionally. You can laugh at it or call it weird, but the concept of creating Memento Mori for stillborn children is ancient and pervasive within both western and non-western cultures. If it didn't have some sort of real psychological benefit to the practitioners, it wouldn't still be carried on to this day.
posted by MrBaliHai at 10:03 AM on January 2, 2002
posted by MrBaliHai at 10:03 AM on January 2, 2002
i like how white-baby-skin is 'flesh' colored and black-baby-skin is 'toast'...
when dropped, black babies tend to land butter-side down. it's a statistically valid observation.
posted by quonsar at 10:06 AM on January 2, 2002
when dropped, black babies tend to land butter-side down. it's a statistically valid observation.
posted by quonsar at 10:06 AM on January 2, 2002
She notes on the page that fabric color names are the manufacturer's, not hers.
posted by spslsausse at 10:16 AM on January 2, 2002
posted by spslsausse at 10:16 AM on January 2, 2002
further steps on this path:
- zygote earrings/pendants
- birth defect dolls
- naming each month's egg, fertilized or not (and lots of books with inspirational messages, and places to record your eggs' names)
It is sick and insane.
Sure, it may be difficult to get through the loss of a child, whether pre- or post-natal. But it shouldn't be devastating, either. For your own sakes, grow up.
posted by yesster at 10:48 AM on January 2, 2002
- zygote earrings/pendants
- birth defect dolls
- naming each month's egg, fertilized or not (and lots of books with inspirational messages, and places to record your eggs' names)
It is sick and insane.
Sure, it may be difficult to get through the loss of a child, whether pre- or post-natal. But it shouldn't be devastating, either. For your own sakes, grow up.
posted by yesster at 10:48 AM on January 2, 2002
For your own sakes, grow up.
That's your solution? What's your inspirational advice for other forms of mental illness? Schizophrenics: just tell those voices in your head to shut up! Manic-depressive? Let your smile be your umbrella!
posted by MrBaliHai at 11:13 AM on January 2, 2002
That's your solution? What's your inspirational advice for other forms of mental illness? Schizophrenics: just tell those voices in your head to shut up! Manic-depressive? Let your smile be your umbrella!
posted by MrBaliHai at 11:13 AM on January 2, 2002
Sure, it may be difficult to get through the loss of a child, whether pre- or post-natal. But it shouldn't be devastating, either.
Did you smoke crack for breakfast? Or do you always make baseless and inane comments as such?
(And MrBaliHali: the umbrella quote...Twin Peaks, right?)
posted by brittney at 11:36 AM on January 2, 2002
Did you smoke crack for breakfast? Or do you always make baseless and inane comments as such?
(And MrBaliHali: the umbrella quote...Twin Peaks, right?)
posted by brittney at 11:36 AM on January 2, 2002
It's not insane in the mental illness sense, its insane in the emotional maturity sense. Like watching a teenager getting all depressed and suicidal over the termination of a 2-week long relationship. [No, I'm not saying they're the same, I am saying that there is a similarity.] We expect that the teenager will grow up and develop a more enlightened perspective, from which such a reaction would be nearly impossible. It is equally reasonable to say "grow up" to anyone whose reactions are out of proportion to circumstances.
Emotions aren't something to which you are a helpless victim (unless you've been taught to be so).
posted by yesster at 12:10 PM on January 2, 2002
Emotions aren't something to which you are a helpless victim (unless you've been taught to be so).
posted by yesster at 12:10 PM on January 2, 2002
I think this stuff is crazy....
Sure, do whatever you need to do to overcome depression, anxiety, etc.
But here’s a better idea...why not save the money that you would spend on a fetus doll and help someone else’s life by adopting a child?
posted by tiger yang at 1:02 PM on January 2, 2002
Sure, do whatever you need to do to overcome depression, anxiety, etc.
But here’s a better idea...why not save the money that you would spend on a fetus doll and help someone else’s life by adopting a child?
posted by tiger yang at 1:02 PM on January 2, 2002
the umbrella quote...Twin Peaks, right?
It's an old song lyric. I don't remember it being in Twin Peaks, but it may well have been.
And yesster, until you've lived through what these people have, how can you possibly judge if their reaction is out of proportion to the circumstances? Have you ever carried a child to term only to have it die at birth or worse yet, have it die in your arms a couple of months or years later? Everybody deals with grief a different way. Your solution is not the correct one for everybody.
posted by MrBaliHai at 1:12 PM on January 2, 2002
It's an old song lyric. I don't remember it being in Twin Peaks, but it may well have been.
And yesster, until you've lived through what these people have, how can you possibly judge if their reaction is out of proportion to the circumstances? Have you ever carried a child to term only to have it die at birth or worse yet, have it die in your arms a couple of months or years later? Everybody deals with grief a different way. Your solution is not the correct one for everybody.
posted by MrBaliHai at 1:12 PM on January 2, 2002
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posted by gazingus at 2:12 PM on January 2, 2002
posted by gazingus at 2:12 PM on January 2, 2002
Skallas, your way is too easy and straightforward. I prefer my needlessly convoluted way ;)
posted by gazingus at 12:17 AM on January 3, 2002
posted by gazingus at 12:17 AM on January 3, 2002
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I dunno about you guys, but I'm scared.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 3:56 AM on January 2, 2002