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7 key moments in the Taking Back Sunday and Brand New beef
March 25, 2014 7:05 AM   Subscribe

BEEF!!! But as with all quality emo, there was an issue, and that issue is invariable: There was a girl. (As Wikipedia correctly notes, the genre is androcentric, or places men at the centre of its perspectives. While women are the frequent topics of songs, their perspectives were shockingly scarce in emo.)
posted by josher71 (23 comments total) 8 users marked this as a favorite

 
My only memory of Taking Back Sunday was seeing them live because they were touring with my college roommate's friend's band, and we were on the guest list. The lead singer got drunk, fell off the stage and broke his hip, or something. Sat back stage for a while chatting and drinking with band members. Can't remember anything special about them, save for the fact I thought they all had nice cell phones.
posted by Bathtub Bobsled at 7:16 AM on March 25 [2 favorites]


* I hope there's ice on all the road...*
posted by MisantropicPainforest at 7:27 AM on March 25 [1 favorite]


Oh god, 2002. Long-forgotten days of yore. We were so young then – so loud, so... emotional. If only we could speak to those angry young cats – if only we could take them by their shoulders, shake them, and tell them it was going to be all right. All they had to do was get through 2002! It would only be a few more months before they could be chillin' to the soothing summer sounds of "Hey Ya" and "Ignition (Remix)." But they didn't know. They'd never heard those songs. They'd never even heard those songs before.
posted by koeselitz at 7:28 AM on March 25 [11 favorites]


Tell all your friends holds up well now too.

What is shocking to me is that Brand New changed their sound and now has a pretty big following.
posted by MisantropicPainforest at 7:30 AM on March 25 [1 favorite]


I see. Very well, carry on.
posted by y2karl at 7:44 AM on March 25


It would only be a few more months before they could be chillin' to the soothing summer sounds of "Hey Ya"

When I saw the ultimate double header of New Jersey Emo--Saves the Day and Taking Back Sunday--they both came out at the end of the show and did a cover of Hey Ya!

It was wonderful.
posted by MisantropicPainforest at 7:46 AM on March 25 [2 favorites]


Bathtub Bobsled - I think I was at that show...
posted by ridiculous at 8:04 AM on March 25


Does this have anything to do with the Taking Back Sunday AMA on Reddit?

(I've seen Taking Back Sunday three more times than I'd like to admit.)
posted by sibboleth at 8:14 AM on March 25


Does this have anything to do with the Taking Back Sunday AMA on Reddit?

Only in that I was shocked that they had a beef.
posted by josher71 at 8:16 AM on March 25


Funny article... but gawd, those animated gifs are annoying.
posted by ph00dz at 8:35 AM on March 25 [2 favorites]


>Only in that I was shocked that they had a beef.

About ten years late on that :P They also said they are over it at this point, despite their fans inability to drop it. Not to suggest your post isn't interesting.
posted by jjmoney at 8:47 AM on March 25


After reading it, it seems to have a lot of mistakes and be click-bait, IMO.
posted by jjmoney at 9:09 AM on March 25


Metafilter: Oh god, 2002.
posted by Potomac Avenue at 9:14 AM on March 25 [1 favorite]


I am somewhat disappointed to discover the second band is not called Brand New Beef.
posted by Dr Dracator at 9:36 AM on March 25 [5 favorites]


I only know of these bands by names (my 2002 emo tastes were more Promise Ring/Braid), but loved this. It reminded me of the endless drama of being in a band.
posted by drezdn at 9:52 AM on March 25 [2 favorites]


After reading it, it seems to have a lot of mistakes

Can you expand on this?
posted by josher71 at 10:14 AM on March 25


Whatever it's origins, despite my being well out of any of these bands' demographic... "Cute Without The E" is a helluva great song.
posted by ThatFuzzyBastard at 10:21 AM on March 25


Huh. This stuff is a lot better than I remember it being. At the time, I was kinda firmly in the anti-pop emo camp, and now it just sounds like power pop with a bit of a scream in the vocals. I'm not gonna rush out and buy any, but I love Chisel a lot, and this reminds me a lot of them.
posted by klangklangston at 11:25 AM on March 25 [1 favorite]


Oh man, this is so much of my high school brain. MisantropicPainforest, I actually cried at one of their shows once right after The Devil and God came out because they only played two songs, total, off of the first two albums, which were the only two I cared about. (I win an emo award for that, right?)
posted by SeedStitch at 11:51 AM on March 25


You sure do.

I was shocked that people still gave a shit about Brand New, and heard so many good things about The Deveil & God.

And holy fuck is that album just a boring mess. Kids these days!
posted by MisantropicPainforest at 12:15 PM on March 25 [1 favorite]


I saw Brand New a few months after Daisy came out (they were playing with GlassJaw, who were great) and I'm not sure they realized it wasn't a conceptual art show. They had a big screen up behind them with a bunch of projected black and white images: a chicken running around, a beating heart, trees, in the wind. I rolled my eyes a lot and tried to enjoy it.

Maybe it was a conceptual art show and I just didn't get it. I just wished they had played all of Deja Entendu and gotten off stage.
posted by SeedStitch at 12:45 PM on March 25


Stereogum had an article yesterday about the resurgence of emo: Here.

This BN/TBS feud is good stuff. I was also firmly in the anti-emo camp back then (you know, middle school elitism and all) but I like a lot of it now.
posted by papayaninja at 12:46 PM on March 25 [1 favorite]


I also saw the tour in that Stereogum article. If you get the chance, be sure to check out The World Is a Beautiful Place and I am No Longer Afraid to Die. Yes that is their name and they are great!
posted by MisantropicPainforest at 1:12 PM on March 25 [1 favorite]


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