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	<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2002 22:30:27 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Post number 13800</title>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.dilbert.com/comics/getfuzzy/archive/getfuzzy-20020111.html"&gt;Are sweeping generalisations&lt;/a&gt; about French &apos;arrogance&apos; and &apos;cowardice&apos; really justified?  What if Rob had suggested that Satchel take a more aggressive &apos;German&apos; stance on Bucky&apos;s beanbag borrowing antics?</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2002 22:24:09 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>obiwanwasabi</dc:creator>		<category>dilbert</category>		<category>deadlink</category>		<category>comics</category>
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		<title>By: sunsolid</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/13800/#205190</link>	
		<description>I surrender.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2002 22:30:27 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Optamystic</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/13800/#205196</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Are sweeping generalisations about French &apos;arrogance&apos; and &apos;cowardice&apos; really justified?&lt;/i&gt;

The following is taken from an historical account of a battle that took place many years ago, between the English and the French:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://bau2.uibk.ac.at/sg/python/Scripts/HolyGrail/grail-08.html&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;FRENCH GUARD:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;i&gt;You don&apos;t frighten us, English pig-dogs! Go and boil your bottom, sons of a silly person. I blow my nose at you, so-called Arthur King, you and all your silly English k-nnnnniggets. Thpppppt! Thppt! Thppt!... I don&apos;t wanna talk to you no more, you empty headed animal food trough wiper! I fart in your general direction! Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries!&lt;/i&gt;

From this speech, we may conclude that while the French are not necessarily cowardly, they are sometimes arrogant. Also, they are extremely silly.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2002 22:53:44 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: insomnyuk</title>
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		<description>Ahh, this reminds me of the Simpsons episode, where Harry Truman commissions the $1 trillion bill. Truman says,

&quot;This money is to help our allies, who fought so poorly, and surrendered so readily.&quot;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2002 23:53:55 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: insomnyuk</title>
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		<description>More seriously, France has had its share of military success as well.  As one of my professors pointed out, if they hadn&apos;t been so fractured and disunite politically, they could possibly have held out against the Nazis much longer in WWII.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2002 23:55:08 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: vbfg</title>
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		<description>The basic problem of the French in WWII was that they hid in concrete boxes that had guns pointing towards Germany. The Germans went round the edge and attacked from the rear where the guns couldn&apos;t point. No amount of support for Renault, the French PM of the time, would have turned the Maginot Line into a good idea. An attack when all the Germans were in Poland however might have produced a different result.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2002 02:36:02 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: pheideaux</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/13800/#205263</link>	
		<description>Obiwanwasabi, I&apos;m curious why you linked through &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dilbert.com&quot;&gt;Dilbert.com&lt;/a&gt; rather than the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.comics.com&quot;&gt;Comics.com&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.comics.com/comics/getfuzzy/archive/getfuzzy-20020111.html&quot;&gt;archive&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2002 02:50:40 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: pheideaux</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/13800/#205264</link>	
		<description>...not that there&apos;s anything wrong with that.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2002 02:51:07 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: quarsan</title>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;they could possibly have held out against the Nazis much longer in WWII.&lt;/i&gt;

like longer than a week?</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2002 03:55:56 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: johnnyboy</title>
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		<description>Like longer than a week or something, like hyeah as if!.........please excuse me while I get sick.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2002 04:00:07 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mick</title>
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		<description>&quot;I was shakin&apos; like a french soldier&quot;
 - Lenny</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2002 05:25:59 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: rodii</title>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;As one of my professors pointed out, if they hadn&apos;t been so fractured and disunite politically, they could possibly have held out against the Nazis much longer in WWII.&lt;/i&gt;

Genius. Also, if they had fought better, prepared better, had help from superheroes, or their enemies had choked on pretzels.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2002 05:27:40 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Frasermoo</title>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;I was shakin&apos; like a french soldier&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

That is pure genius. I will be adopting that expression this year, alongside - 

&quot;..emptier than a Scottich pay-toilet&quot; - Larry Burns</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2002 05:31:40 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Frasermoo</title>
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		<description>Can we possibly turn this into a xenophobic expression forum of some sort?

I think it would be healthy.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2002 05:32:50 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: RylandDotNet</title>
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		<description>&quot;Bonjourrrrr, ye cheese-eatin&apos; surrender monkeys!&quot;&lt;br&gt;-- Groundskeeper Willie, teaching French class on &lt;i&gt;The Simpsons&lt;/i&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2002 05:36:25 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: basilwhite</title>
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		<description>Actually, to update the French model, Satchel would have hired an unscrupulous dog to kill Bucky, then let the unscrupulous dog live in his doghouse and claim &quot;sovereign immunity&quot; in case the Animal Control officer started asking questions.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2002 05:56:56 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: XiBe</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/13800/#205369</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;No amount of support for Renault, the French PM of the time...&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

???
Renault was France&apos;s Primer Minister ?
I thought they &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.renault.fr/&quot;&gt;designed cars&lt;/a&gt; !</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2002 07:29:07 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: UncleFes</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/13800/#205393</link>	
		<description>One high point in French militarism: the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ambafrance-us.org/america/embassy/legion/legion.htm&quot;&gt;Foreign Legion&lt;/a&gt;. Still active, btw... &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ambafrance-us.org/america/embassy/legion/enlist.htm&quot;&gt;and still recruiting&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.foreignlegionlife.com/&quot;&gt;Life there is hard&lt;/a&gt;, but they still don&apos;t ask many questions... sign in, stranger.

And let&apos;s not forget that  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fortunecity.com/victorian/riley/787/Napoleon/&quot;&gt;Napoleon commanded a rather successful French Army &lt;/a&gt;back in the day.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2002 08:23:27 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: bshort</title>
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		<description>I just wanted to say that I think Get Fuzzy is the funniest cartoon since, well, since Calvin and Hobbes ended.

So, there, I said it.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2002 09:29:30 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: haqspan</title>
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		<description>Personally, I&apos;d like to ask some of the Jewish people of the time. Oh wait, they&apos;re all &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bartleby.com/65/la/Laval-Pi.html&quot;&gt;dead&lt;/a&gt;. Drat.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2002 09:49:06 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: XiBe</title>
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		<description>So Pierre Laval is representative of the whole fench people ?</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2002 10:38:41 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: srboisvert</title>
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		<description>How about the plains of Abraham?  Now there was a stunning French Military failure.  I visited Quebec City and ran up the hill and completely out of breath I surmised that the French troops must have been watching the Just for Laughs Comedy Festival at the time.  They certainly were not defending their colony.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2002 11:05:55 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: BitterOldPunk</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/13800/#205517</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Are sweeping generalisations about French &apos;arrogance&apos; and &apos;cowardice&apos; really justified? &lt;/i&gt;

Yes. Next question.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2002 11:07:47 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: RevGreg</title>
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		<description>&lt;cite&gt;The Germans went round the edge and attacked from the rear where the guns couldn&apos;t point.&lt;/cite&gt;

But how were the French to know?  I mean, just because the German&apos;s went around the Maginot line and into France during WWI didn&apos;t mean that it would be ineffective again!

&lt;cite&gt;Renault was France&apos;s Primer Minister ?
I thought they designed cars !&lt;/cite&gt;

They do, and they fall apart faster than their military...of course, their military used Renault tanks, trucks and other vehicles in WWII which may have helped.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2002 14:50:03 -0800</pubDate>
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