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June 13, 2014 2:29 PM   Subscribe

"Marvel: Ultimate Alliance"
posted by AlonzoMosleyFBI (37 comments total) 5 users marked this as a favorite

 
For a second I thought this was going to be about Avengers Alliance instead (which in fairness is basically the facebook/flash game of this movie). All this "Alliance" business - which probably oversells a team of folks that, let's be honest, would only juuuuust barely be able to all work together even in the face of impending utter doom.

As it cool as this was to watch, though, a movie with a cast that big just wouldn't be able to do justice to everyone. I mean, Days of Future Past already left Rogue on the cutting room floor and didn't do enough with the "future" portion of the cast. Avengers wasn't as crowded and still hardly did justice to Hawkeye. A movie this big would be some combination of: incoherent, disjointed, disappointing, full of superheroes that basically only got cameos, and/or 20 hours long.

Even knowing that, I'd still totally watch it though. Even Especially if it was 20 hours long.
posted by mstokes650 at 2:54 PM on June 13 [4 favorites]


There should have been a scene of Johnny Storm and Steve Rogers together.
posted by Jacqueline at 2:55 PM on June 13 [11 favorites]


For a second I thought this was going to be about Avengers Alliance instead (which in fairness is basically the facebook/flash game of this movie).

There actually was a pretty decent action game called Marvel: Ultimate Alliance.
posted by kmz at 2:56 PM on June 13 [1 favorite]


There actually was a pretty decent action game called Marvel: Ultimate Alliance.

Hmm, really? [googles] Ahh, no PC release, that's why I've never heard of it.
posted by mstokes650 at 3:07 PM on June 13


What if we took all of your favorite flavors and just mushed them all together? Sweet, sour, savory, bitter, hoppy, unctuous, glutinous, everything, all just rolled into one ball.
posted by boo_radley at 3:10 PM on June 13 [6 favorites]


still hardly did justice to Hawkeye.

Avengers made him an also-ran, near-afterthought. It definitely did justice to Hawkeye.
posted by explosion at 3:13 PM on June 13 [2 favorites]


Speaking of which, is Pingu Marvel or DC?
posted by Foci for Analysis at 3:15 PM on June 13 [4 favorites]


Yeah, I was about to say...is this about the game? It wasn't too bad. I just don't like extended cut scenes in my arpg.
posted by Our Ship Of The Imagination! at 3:24 PM on June 13


What if we took all of your favorite flavors and just mushed them all together? Sweet, sour, savory, bitter, hoppy, unctuous, glutinous, everything, all just rolled into one ball.

Deep fry it, add some lens flare, and you have a deal, Mr. Whedon.
posted by robocop is bleeding at 3:25 PM on June 13


Avengers made him an also-ran, near-afterthought. It definitely did justice to Hawkeye.

Avengers made him a boring spy. I'm still waiting to see the trick-shot carnie Avenger who's in it for the laughs.
posted by justsomebodythatyouusedtoknow at 3:46 PM on June 13 [2 favorites]


A movie this big would be ... incoherent, disjointed, disappointing, full of superheroes that basically only got cameos

Sounds like all of the big Marvel movies, since IM2.
posted by vhsiv at 3:51 PM on June 13


What, no Howard the Duck?
posted by FJT at 4:03 PM on June 13 [9 favorites]


Fury's speech at the beginning I realized was just a version of "with great power comes great responsibility", but dragged out to fill a 300-word writing assignment...
posted by oneswellfoop at 4:07 PM on June 13


Hmm, really? [googles] Ahh, no PC release, that's why I've never heard of it.

The PC version was pretty great and there are about a zillion mods allowing you to play pretty much any Marvel Character you've ever heard of. There was never a digital download version, but you can find copies of the DVD-ROM pretty easily.
posted by straight at 4:16 PM on June 13 [2 favorites]


Fury's speech at the beginning I realized was just a version of "with great power comes great responsibility", but dragged out to fill a 300-word writing assignment...

Fury had Uncle Ben killed for that very reason.
posted by Sangermaine at 4:18 PM on June 13 [2 favorites]


I kind of prefer the spy Barton with the dry sense of humor and the insistence of using the worst possible weapon for a spy. Of course I liked that bit of dialogue in Agents of Shield:
"You sent my people in without an extraction plan!"
"Romanov and Barton wouldn't need an extraction plan."
*dirty look*
posted by happyroach at 4:25 PM on June 13


I like how the last shot isn't actually from a Marvel movie but from Pacific Rim.
posted by brundlefly at 4:29 PM on June 13 [1 favorite]


If Marvel wants to do Hawkeye justice, they should just do the Black Widow / Hawkeye movie that The Whelk proposed.
posted by Jacqueline at 4:35 PM on June 13 [3 favorites]


Popeye / Hawkeye
posted by benzenedream at 4:59 PM on June 13


I submit the argument that you would need Kate Bishop in order to actually do Hawkeye justice.

Anyway, holy crap that's a lot of editing. Impressive.
posted by dinty_moore at 5:27 PM on June 13 [1 favorite]


For anybody who hasn't had the opportunity to play it, this is essentially the exact plot and experience of the Lego Marvel Superheroes video game.

After you beat the game you can play as tiny, minifig-scale Galactus!!
posted by Mizu at 5:42 PM on June 13 [1 favorite]


Wolverine. Hulk. Fighting.

I have this MONEY, you bastards, and you aren't TAKING it, you fiefdom-obsessed B-school exudates.
posted by Slap*Happy at 8:19 PM on June 13 [6 favorites]


Sony, Fox, Marvel - stop the fighting, man, make this happen.
posted by Paladin1138 at 8:47 PM on June 13


Lego Marvel Superheroes is indeed one of the best (and most fan-service-filled) superhero video games I've ever played. Magneto's big entrance? So very good.
posted by straight at 8:51 PM on June 13 [1 favorite]


I like how the last shot isn't actually from a Marvel movie but from Pacific Rim.

Am I the only one who was thinking, needs more Pacific Rim?


No? Good. Now can you add some Transformers and dubstep too? And maybe Dr Who? And Harry Potter? And Godzilla? And Will Smith? Thanks!
posted by Mike Mongo at 10:08 PM on June 13


Daredevil was an unremarkable film but if they could include Fantastic Four they could find the room to include that one too.
posted by cazoo at 10:41 PM on June 13


"Unremarkable" is pretty charitable. DAREDEVIL is one of the few bad films where I failed to keep my laughter in check in theaters. Up there with DREAMCATCHER and ALONE IN THE DARK.

Although I've never seen the Fantastic Four films. I've never heard anything positive.
posted by brundlefly at 11:12 PM on June 13


I watched about half an hour of the first Fantastic Four movie for free. I have trouble thinking about it long enough to really figure out why it was so horrible, my mind shies away from the memory.
posted by dinty_moore at 7:02 AM on June 14


Oh also I stumbled upon this Captain Marvel trailer, which works surprisingly well considering a) the horrible horrible music choice up front (just ignore that and pretend it's Dessa or Pink or something) and b) It's 90% clips from Battlestar Galactica.
posted by dinty_moore at 7:07 AM on June 14 [1 favorite]


Daredevil set the bar so low that the Fantastic Four movie is a veritable masterpiece by comparison.
posted by JaredSeth at 7:16 AM on June 14


I've never heard anything positive.

Certain vital gifsets.
posted by The Whelk at 7:55 AM on June 14


Wolverine. Hulk. Fighting.
[...]
posted by Slap*Happy


Hulk vs. Wolverine Animated Trailer
posted by rosswald at 8:24 AM on June 14


They made a Punisher/Black Widow anime earlier this year that is outright terrible, and (though I'm usually pretty liberal about such things) really not appropriate for kids. In it, the Punisher still kills lots of people indiscriminately, and Black Widow isn't really portrayed as a strong character. (I can see just googling it that the full thing is up on youtube, too.) I really expected more from the writing, considering that they aren't paying giant movie stars to be in it, but are still banking on the popularity that Scarlett Johansson has brought to the role of Black Widow.
posted by Catblack at 9:13 AM on June 14


I was going to make a comment about how Marvel's animated fare is middling-to-awful, and that they should just hire Paul Dini on to complete their humiliation of DC across the board...but then I saw that he already was. Unfortunately, he helped head up Ultimate Spider-Man, which is merely servicable IMO (no thanks to Jeph Loeb and his retcon of Nova to once again stand in for his late son), and almost never takes the risks B:TAS or JL/U did. That may largely be nostalgia talking, but those shows stand up to the test of time, and have memorable episodes and characters. That's what I want from Marvel's animation house, and there's not much of it.

Bonus for anyone who made it to the end of this rant: Mark Hamill improvised a dialog of the Joker and Luke Skywalker from the climactic scene of Empire, and it is awesome.
posted by zombieflanders at 9:43 AM on June 14 [2 favorites]


Still not overstuffed as bad as Batman v. Superman.
posted by EatTheWeak at 11:33 AM on June 14


I was going to make a comment about how Marvel's animated fare is middling-to-awful

I've felt that way about most of the Marvel animated stuff (I haven't really enjoyed any of the one-shot animated movies except maybe Next Avengers was kinda fun), but I thought The Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes was surprisingly good, right up there with the better DC stuff. I also liked The Spectacular Spider-Man series pretty well.
posted by straight at 12:50 PM on June 14


The CGI-animated "Spider-Man: The New Animated Series" (Starring NPH!) was above par, and surprisingly, so was the "Iron Man: Armored Adventures" CGI-animated series. Avengers was OK, but seemed to lose focus a lot, and spent far too much time fighting. The rest of Marvel's recent-ish animated opus is decidedly lacking compared to some of the downright brilliant stuff going on in the DCU. Even the misses like the Green Lantern CGI series were entertaining.

Tho, for little kids, the '80s "Spiderman and his Amazing Friends" is hard to beat. Ideal intro to superheroes as problem-solvers who rely on each other rather than people who punch up other people.
posted by Slap*Happy at 9:15 PM on June 14


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