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A Beautiful Mind sweeps the Golden Globes.
January 20, 2002 8:01 PM   Subscribe

A Beautiful Mind sweeps the Golden Globes. There you have it folks. As an unabashed LOTR fan, I was mildly disappointed, but not at all surprised that the outsider Peter Jackson did not get his due.
posted by insomnyuk (36 comments total)

 
I would have to agree here...I read somewhere that the unabashed LYING in A Beautiful Mind would hinder it at the awards ceremonies...

It seems that that's not the case. Oh well.

I'm not surprised that LOTR didn't win the musical categories...I mean, even though Moulin Rouge was a pretty crappy movie and its score was basically just old songs rewritten for a crappy movie...it was popular.

But it should have gotten Best Pic, IMHO.
posted by taumeson at 8:04 PM on January 20, 2002


Partial list here while Yahoo! gets its act together.
posted by insomnyuk at 8:04 PM on January 20, 2002


double post
posted by raaka at 8:22 PM on January 20, 2002


Good to see Sting win, and Charlie Sheen's "sober acid trip" was the best line in the show.
posted by riffola at 8:22 PM on January 20, 2002


No offense, but LOTR's acting what nothing special. Great special effects, epic understaking... but not compelling acting by any stretch of the imagination.
posted by fleener at 8:48 PM on January 20, 2002


Friendly reminder - not all of us are located in the US, so a "spoiler warning" might be nice. The awards are set to show in Oz this evening ... a good four hours or so from now ... and some folks might not like to hear the winners beforehand.
posted by cyniczny at 8:52 PM on January 20, 2002


Good point.. and sorry. I'll have to remember that come the Oscars....

Damn me and my America-centric state of mind. Plus I don't consider television a source of entertainment, and I completely forgot that people actually get their news from TV.

By the way, the show itself was pretty bad. Most of the clips of the movies which are nominated are well... trailers. Or maybe I just can't stand network TV, or any TV...

By the way, raaka, technically this is not a double post, since the last one was about the nominations, and this one is about the actual winners. Not to nitpick or anything.
posted by insomnyuk at 9:07 PM on January 20, 2002


It took me 5 minutes to figure out that LOTR stands for "Lord of the Rings."
posted by jennak at 9:24 PM on January 20, 2002


Man, unless you got money riding on it, there's no need to have a spoiler for a movie award show. I can't see why anyone besides the people nominated really care about it at all anyway.
posted by Doug at 9:30 PM on January 20, 2002


Did you see how pained Harrison Ford looked throughout the presentation of the film highlights of his career, and especially at the beginning of Ben Affleck's intro of him, when Affleck said of Ford, "...he's always been my hero"? Yecch. As a writer himself (an Oscar-winning one, even), I'd expect Affleck (in my naive, wishful-thinking, rose-colored-glasses kinda way) to select his words more carefully -- more meaningfully -- instead of just reciting what some Hollywood hack keyed into the TelePrompTer.
posted by verdezza at 9:41 PM on January 20, 2002


I'm not surprised that LOTR didn't win the musical categories, because the soundtrack was painfully dull and unimaginative. I caught Planet of the Apes on a plane flight a couple days after seeing LOTR for the second time... if you've ever wondered how good movie music can be, go watch the intro to that film. Danny Elfman is a genius. If only they'd gotten him for LOTR. Otherwise it's an excellent film.
posted by louie at 10:10 PM on January 20, 2002


As a writer himself...I'd expect Affleck...to select his words more carefully...

Maybe Assfleck should have hired William Goldman to "polish" (read: ghostwrite) his presentation speech, much in the same way that Goldman "polished" the Good Will Hunting script.

Not to be overly snarky, but I'm sick of people believing that those two doofuses deserved their Oscar. They had America's finest living screenwriter in their corner, and they didn't even bother to thank him when they got the trophy.

Okay, I'm done ranting now.
posted by Optamystic at 10:23 PM on January 20, 2002


Hell, the things not even done on the west coast yet.

Harrison Ford sure looked uncomfortable during that whole speech, especially with that clip from Six Days, Seven Nights

Here's to hoping LOTR wins diddly poo come Oscar time. Last thing we need is more Dungeons and Dragons movies.
posted by owillis at 10:31 PM on January 20, 2002


Optamystic: Goldman himself has said he only sat in on one story session for Good Will Hunting, and that his contribution there was not substantial. Make of that what you will; maybe he's just adhering to the official story, but then again ghostwriting is freely acknowledged practice in Hollywood all the time.
posted by jjg at 10:44 PM on January 20, 2002


Hey, I hate to inform you owillis, but I can guarantee that there will be two more "D&D" movies coming to the big screen in the near future.
posted by Grum at 10:46 PM on January 20, 2002


maybe he's just adhering to the official story...

Well, his book is called "Which Lie Did I Tell This Time?". :)
posted by Optamystic at 10:55 PM on January 20, 2002


guarantee that there will be two more "D&D" movies

I meant beyond the two already past the poop filter.
posted by owillis at 11:37 PM on January 20, 2002


I don't have any doubt that Matt and Ben wrote Good Will Hunting. Not to totally hijack this thread, but I remember reading (in Premiere magazine, I think) a while back Goldman saying that upon reading the GWH script, he talked the Dynamic Duo out of seeking his or anyone else's advice on it -- because he thought it was so good as it was, any fiddling with it would just muck it up. (His total time spent with them on the project: one day.)

I know that doesn't jibe with what I read in jjg's link (about the cheesy crime subplot), but that's my story and I'm sticking to it. :)
posted by verdezza at 12:02 AM on January 21, 2002


owillis: poop filter

What a great idea for a spinoff site! Let's talk Monday!

Nyuck nyuck nyuck.
posted by kirkaracha at 12:21 AM on January 21, 2002


At least I don't do FPPs drunk.
posted by kirkaracha at 12:21 AM on January 21, 2002


I was really pleased to hear that Altman won for best director. Gosford Park was a great film that managed to play with genre and plot while still concentrating on character development. ( a rare accomplishment in my books)

As for what Doug said:
"I can't see why anyone besides the people nominated really care about it at all anyway."

Well, I see your point. For some reason I didn't care if I saw the People's choice awards or not, and I wouldn't have cared if a movie or person I didn't like won, but when I hear that a project or person I think is deserving wins an award, it just warms my heart. Maybe awards sometimes serve to validate the reader/viewer's tastes or our connection with the piece. Maybe I'm just a cheeseball.

I did catch some of Harrison Ford's squeaming at his own film scenes. Funny stuff. He looked like he felt he didn't deserve a lifetime award. Heh.
posted by Ms Snit at 12:51 AM on January 21, 2002


Ms Snit, I agree with you, actually. I just don't get viewing it like a sporting event. If a movie that I feel deserves an award wins one, I'm happy that it was recognized, and for the people who made it. I just find it so strange that people watch the Oscars (for instance) like it's the Superbowl. Actually, I find it weird that people watch the superbowl. I guess I'm just all around cranky.
posted by Doug at 12:56 AM on January 21, 2002


I'm continually astonished at how much importance is placed on the Golden Globe Awards. The Hollywood Foreign Press Association is comprised of fewer than 100 people, none of whose names would warrant more than a "Who?" from almost anyone. Having seen many of their members up close and in action, it seems to me that whether a film lives or dies in the Golden Globes is almost entirely dependent upon how good the food is at the HFP's special screenings, and how much the studios' media relations people kiss their asses.

At least most of the Oscar categories are voted upon by actual industry professionals in each particular field. The Golden Globes are voted on by a bunch of ... well, nobodies, really. If your favorite film or performer didn't win, just remember who's behind all this, and that it's all just Hollywood buttsmooch.
posted by chuq at 1:11 AM on January 21, 2002


If you wish to avoid spoiling surprises, why log on to sites like mefi where current affairs are being discussed? No offense, but you have to look after yourself there, it's not fair if everybody else should wait discussing things to make sure everybody is up to speed.
posted by cx at 1:28 AM on January 21, 2002


Good point.. and sorry. I'll have to remember that come the Oscars....

Look for a another spellbinding thread come Oscartime I guess.
posted by crasspastor at 1:59 AM on January 21, 2002


I'm just glad Hackman won. He and Altman were the only people who deserve their awards.
posted by noisemartyr at 3:38 AM on January 21, 2002


it was funny watching that guy who accepted the award for "moulan rouge", being hustled off the stage, after he was rambling on, and on, klike forever. he was just about to throw accolades to what;s her name, the star of the movie, lol. my, my, these people do go on don't they. has anyone seen this movie?? is it any good?
posted by billybob at 4:26 AM on January 21, 2002


I'm continually astonished at how much importance is placed on the Golden Globe Awards. The Hollywood Foreign Press Association is comprised of fewer than 100 people, none of whose names would warrant more than a "Who?" from almost anyone.

chuq: it's also corrupt. I wish I could find the exposé I read some years ago - perhaps in the old Spy or Movieline? A friend of mine is a member and he's constantly regaling us with stories about their craven attitude to the goodies the studios dole out. And not just junkets and airline tickets to exotic places either.

It would make a great FPP, IMO. I can help you find a link or two, if you're interested, via this good friend of mine.
posted by MiguelCardoso at 5:44 AM on January 21, 2002


THe good:

Moulin Rouge is getting the good publicity it deserves.

Jennifer Connelly finally living up to the hype some years ago

Classy Russell Crowe acceptance speech

Good to see Opie get credit. He's been putting out some fantastic movies.

The Bad:

LOTR Shut out.

No win for either Enya or Moulin Rouge for best song.

Robert Altman for best director?? Either Ron Howard, Baz Luhrman or Peter Jackson deserved it more.
posted by Lanternjmk at 6:40 AM on January 21, 2002


AUSTRALIAN SPOILER ALERT
*** Tom Green wins Best Actor in a Drama for Freddy Got Fingered.
*** Fear Factor wins best TV Drama

Back to reality, yes, the awards as usual were schlock, but I was glad to see Reese Witherspoon get nominated for Legally Blonde. That movie really surprised me.
posted by billder at 7:11 AM on January 21, 2002


Affleck and Damon deserve their screenwriting Oscars about as much as Kennedy deserved his Pulizter.

William Goldman? I always heard it was Kevin Smith. Hmm.

And the Golden Globes are poo, but then again, so are the Oscars.
posted by solistrato at 7:59 AM on January 21, 2002


moulin rouge......lol
posted by billybob at 10:15 AM on January 21, 2002


David Lynch was robbed.
posted by brittney at 10:51 AM on January 21, 2002


No-- I was the one robbed when I went and spent money on half of these movies. (insert snare roll here.)
posted by schlomo at 12:55 PM on January 21, 2002


jennifer garner wins best (tv drama) actress for alias? wow.
posted by lescour at 2:45 PM on January 21, 2002


William Goldman? I always heard it was Kevin Smith. Hmm.

I'm beginning to get the feeling that the "Good Will Hunting" script was passed around Hollywood more that Winona Ryder in her prime.
posted by Optamystic at 7:04 PM on January 21, 2002


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