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This blog will keep you up half the night when you should be trying to sleep for an early morning meeting. The post The Secret History Behind Today’s Algeria-Germany #WorldCup Match being timely and tweeted is what brought it to my attention. But what to share? There is so much good stuff, that the rabbit hole beckons...
My Twitter timeline brought me a different historical mixed message on the German game today...
posted by maryr at 6:26 PM on June 30, 2014 [4 favorites]
posted by maryr at 6:26 PM on June 30, 2014 [4 favorites]
Rescheduled my 3pm meeting tomorrow. Now considering office appropriate snack options.
posted by shothotbot at 7:41 PM on June 30, 2014
posted by shothotbot at 7:41 PM on June 30, 2014
Is this new thread German Matt Damon-approved?
Die Deutchesdamon approves!
posted by eriko at 9:34 PM on June 30, 2014 [1 favorite]
Die Deutchesdamon approves!
posted by eriko at 9:34 PM on June 30, 2014 [1 favorite]
German Matt Damon disapproves of your use of the feminine article. Ye shall bear the full wrath of the Ballack.
posted by Dr. Zira at 9:43 PM on June 30, 2014
posted by Dr. Zira at 9:43 PM on June 30, 2014
They were talking about 1982 on the radio the other morning, in relation to just this game. It was an interesting enough explanation and all but it did occur to me that likely no single player on either team was even alive then. (Except Podolski(?))
posted by From Bklyn at 11:21 PM on June 30, 2014
posted by From Bklyn at 11:21 PM on June 30, 2014
Klose was alive (he's 36). He's the only of the Germans, though.
posted by asterix at 11:28 PM on June 30, 2014
posted by asterix at 11:28 PM on June 30, 2014
Crap, right, I was thinking of Klose.
...no single player on either team (except for Klose) was even alive then.
posted by From Bklyn at 11:31 PM on June 30, 2014
...no single player on either team (except for Klose) was even alive then.
posted by From Bklyn at 11:31 PM on June 30, 2014
:-)
posted by Wordshore at 12:01 AM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
posted by Wordshore at 12:01 AM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
"when you should be trying to sleep"
Please don't link me to stuff like that, I'll never get out of the house! I eat that stuff like honey.
posted by marienbad at 1:58 AM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
Please don't link me to stuff like that, I'll never get out of the house! I eat that stuff like honey.
posted by marienbad at 1:58 AM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
Oh hai everyone. Is there a game today?
posted by (Arsenio) Hall and (Warren) Oates at 11:53 AM on July 1, 2014
posted by (Arsenio) Hall and (Warren) Oates at 11:53 AM on July 1, 2014
I can't decide who my proxy England team should be today. US speak English and play in white, but Belgians invented chips and live in terraced houses.
posted by Thing at 11:57 AM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
posted by Thing at 11:57 AM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
I should be for my southerly neighbors, but I fancy USA's chances tonight. GO USA!!
posted by Pendragon at 12:03 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by Pendragon at 12:03 PM on July 1, 2014
(Arsenio) Hall and (Warren) Oates: Oh hai everyone. Is there a game today?
I predict US 2 - Belgium 2 with the US advancing on penalties.
posted by Rock Steady at 12:04 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
I predict US 2 - Belgium 2 with the US advancing on penalties.
posted by Rock Steady at 12:04 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
This is an FPP about colonial, imperial and global history.
go Belgium!
posted by infini at 12:04 PM on July 1, 2014 [3 favorites]
go Belgium!
posted by infini at 12:04 PM on July 1, 2014 [3 favorites]
I love America but hate the U-S-A. U-S-A chant.
posted by shothotbot at 12:05 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by shothotbot at 12:05 PM on July 1, 2014
I'm rooting for Belgium! The trend continues!
posted by travelwithcats at 12:05 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by travelwithcats at 12:05 PM on July 1, 2014
Hopefully this won't be filled with, as languagehat said, people passing to Harvey the rabbit.
posted by winna at 12:05 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by winna at 12:05 PM on July 1, 2014
What is with the spray cheese jokes on the other thread? Is this an inside joke or something people actually think is common in the US? I have never even *seen* a can of that crap. A good American snack is beer with boiled peanuts in it.
posted by syncope at 12:06 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
posted by syncope at 12:06 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
We read Bryson.
posted by marienbad at 12:07 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
posted by marienbad at 12:07 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
I have seen enough spray cheese for both of us, syncope.
posted by shothotbot at 12:07 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by shothotbot at 12:07 PM on July 1, 2014
Ok, well, I'll stick with the other cheese stereotype snack: cream cheese on crackers with pepper jelly. Happy Canada Day, y'all!
posted by syncope at 12:09 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by syncope at 12:09 PM on July 1, 2014
You mean this stuff? Seen it in loads of supermarkets in the USA, and brought some back to England after last trip over there. It's ... convenient. Best not mention the quality.
posted by Wordshore at 12:11 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by Wordshore at 12:11 PM on July 1, 2014
Yeah, that junk. For the last week people have been mentioning it like it's ubiquitous in the US. I'll grant really shitty fast food and other atrocities as being normal, but this cheese in a can thing might be some holdover from the '70s or something?
posted by syncope at 12:14 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by syncope at 12:14 PM on July 1, 2014
What is with the spray cheese jokes on the other thread? Is this an inside joke or something people actually think is common in the US? I have never even *seen* a can of that crap. A good American snack is beer with boiled peanuts in it.
And I have never seen beer with boiled peanuts in it. I wouldn't say that spray cheese is common or typical, but it exists in the U.S. and isn't hard to find.
posted by Area Man at 12:16 PM on July 1, 2014
And I have never seen beer with boiled peanuts in it. I wouldn't say that spray cheese is common or typical, but it exists in the U.S. and isn't hard to find.
posted by Area Man at 12:16 PM on July 1, 2014
pepper jelly? and you were complaining about cheese in a can!
posted by marienbad at 12:17 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by marienbad at 12:17 PM on July 1, 2014
OK, OK, I really didn't want to have to move, being completely wiped out from that last horror show, but here I am. Let's go Yanks! (I too hate "USA! USA!")
posted by languagehat at 12:17 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by languagehat at 12:17 PM on July 1, 2014
...I was making a joke--usually boiled peanuts are put in coke in the deep south. But people there also put salt on the rims of their beer cans, so it would cut the middle man and add protein.
posted by syncope at 12:18 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by syncope at 12:18 PM on July 1, 2014
It ain't all Easy Cheese.
Thinking about it, maybe I should skip the match and go to the cheese store.
posted by evidenceofabsence at 12:21 PM on July 1, 2014
Thinking about it, maybe I should skip the match and go to the cheese store.
posted by evidenceofabsence at 12:21 PM on July 1, 2014
Seems like Ghostery on total blocking prevents watchESPN from working, in case anyone else is having that problem.
posted by shothotbot at 12:21 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by shothotbot at 12:21 PM on July 1, 2014
Well, was prepared adequately for the last match - gonna break out the oreos and make a peanut butter and jelly sandwich for this one.
posted by Wordshore at 12:21 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by Wordshore at 12:21 PM on July 1, 2014
needled, you here? How about roasted Brussels sprouts?
posted by travelwithcats at 12:22 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by travelwithcats at 12:22 PM on July 1, 2014
I miss the days when my sister-in-law's boyfriend ran the cheese department at a fancy grocery in the Berkshires. I've never had such good cheese—didn't even know it existed.
posted by languagehat at 12:22 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
posted by languagehat at 12:22 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
I usually save going full-on American for the 4th of July (this friday!), but am this year stuck in the-English-town-that-time-forgot so will probably be more restrained. Me from a few 4th of Julys ago in Michigan, before the beard and hair.
Oh, and one of my hobbies is taking pictures of food in the USA. Enjoy.
posted by Wordshore at 12:29 PM on July 1, 2014
Oh, and one of my hobbies is taking pictures of food in the USA. Enjoy.
posted by Wordshore at 12:29 PM on July 1, 2014
Syncope, I am kidding, I don't hate - well, except for Marmite, as its absolutely disgusting.
OK my scoreline predo is Belgium 2 - 1 USA. My man Origi to get one and then I dunno take your pick. for the USA, prolly someone like Jones or Beckermann.
posted by marienbad at 12:30 PM on July 1, 2014
OK my scoreline predo is Belgium 2 - 1 USA. My man Origi to get one and then I dunno take your pick. for the USA, prolly someone like Jones or Beckermann.
posted by marienbad at 12:30 PM on July 1, 2014
No Kyle Beckerman? Controversy!
posted by shothotbot at 12:32 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by shothotbot at 12:32 PM on July 1, 2014
What I heard is Cameron is in to match Fellani's size.
posted by josher71 at 12:34 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by josher71 at 12:34 PM on July 1, 2014
Did I mention I'm moving house tomorrow?
pours a tot of Laphroig
posted by infini at 12:34 PM on July 1, 2014
pours a tot of Laphroig
posted by infini at 12:34 PM on July 1, 2014
I don't follow MLS or the USMT, who should I be watching here? Primer.
posted by syncope at 12:37 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by syncope at 12:37 PM on July 1, 2014
Enjoying bison burgers and roasted Brussels sprouts even as I type. I am so ready.
posted by Atrahasis at 12:37 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by Atrahasis at 12:37 PM on July 1, 2014
Hmm. I'm predicting USA wins 3-2, most likely in extra time/penalties.
posted by misha at 12:39 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by misha at 12:39 PM on July 1, 2014
I think the stereotypical American food is apple pie. And everyone loves pie!
posted by misha at 12:40 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by misha at 12:40 PM on July 1, 2014
Not starting Altidore (not surprised) or Beckermann (rather surprised.)
Starting 3 forwards, too -- Bedoya, Dempsey and Zusi. Not sure if we're 4-3-3 or 4-3-2-1. Probably the latter. Belgium lineup implies 4-3-3 from them.
posted by eriko at 12:41 PM on July 1, 2014
Starting 3 forwards, too -- Bedoya, Dempsey and Zusi. Not sure if we're 4-3-3 or 4-3-2-1. Probably the latter. Belgium lineup implies 4-3-3 from them.
posted by eriko at 12:41 PM on July 1, 2014
Oh my god wordshore, that 4th July pic - those shorts - my eyes!
posted by marienbad at 12:43 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by marienbad at 12:43 PM on July 1, 2014
> needled, you here? How about roasted Brussels sprouts?
Sadly, no Brussels sprouts here. Or suitable American junk food made with the best ConAgra technology. *Starts jotting down shopping list for mr. needled.*
posted by needled at 12:43 PM on July 1, 2014
Sadly, no Brussels sprouts here. Or suitable American junk food made with the best ConAgra technology. *Starts jotting down shopping list for mr. needled.*
posted by needled at 12:43 PM on July 1, 2014
Did I mention I'm moving house tomorrow?
Good, that's two of us procrastinating then.
posted by ersatz at 12:44 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
Good, that's two of us procrastinating then.
posted by ersatz at 12:44 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
Oh great... I'm not the only one then...
shakes fist at tim berners lee for having brainwave in first place
posted by infini at 12:45 PM on July 1, 2014
shakes fist at tim berners lee for having brainwave in first place
posted by infini at 12:45 PM on July 1, 2014
@Wensink if we have to have all the US players born in Germany, why not one such named?
posted by syncope at 12:46 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by syncope at 12:46 PM on July 1, 2014
Oh my god wordshore, that 4th July pic - those shorts - my eyes!
You think that's bad? Have you seen what goes for *cough* fashion *cough* around Loughborough? :-)
posted by Wordshore at 12:46 PM on July 1, 2014
You think that's bad? Have you seen what goes for *cough* fashion *cough* around Loughborough? :-)
posted by Wordshore at 12:46 PM on July 1, 2014
I'm think it's going to be another grinder, 1-0 Belgium, alas.
Lineups:
Belgium: (G) Courtois, (D) Toby, Van Buyten, Kompany, Vertonghen, (M) Witsel, Fellaini, De Bruyne, (F) Mertens, Origi, Hazard
USA: (G) Howard, (D) Johnson, Besler, Gonzalez, Beasley, (M) Cameron, Bradley, Jones, (F) Bedoya, Dempsey, Zusi.
posted by eriko at 12:46 PM on July 1, 2014
Lineups:
Belgium: (G) Courtois, (D) Toby, Van Buyten, Kompany, Vertonghen, (M) Witsel, Fellaini, De Bruyne, (F) Mertens, Origi, Hazard
USA: (G) Howard, (D) Johnson, Besler, Gonzalez, Beasley, (M) Cameron, Bradley, Jones, (F) Bedoya, Dempsey, Zusi.
posted by eriko at 12:46 PM on July 1, 2014
Prediction: Belgium 3 Former Western Colonies of Her Majesty's United Kingdom 0
Result I want: Belgium 0 Former Western Colonies of Her Majesty's United Kingdom 5
posted by Wordshore at 12:47 PM on July 1, 2014
Result I want: Belgium 0 Former Western Colonies of Her Majesty's United Kingdom 5
posted by Wordshore at 12:47 PM on July 1, 2014
But if we lose this one we go through again, right?
posted by shothotbot at 12:48 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by shothotbot at 12:48 PM on July 1, 2014
> I'm think it's going to be another grinder
Yeah, me too, but I'm hoping for a miracle.
posted by languagehat at 12:48 PM on July 1, 2014
Yeah, me too, but I'm hoping for a miracle.
posted by languagehat at 12:48 PM on July 1, 2014
> But if we lose this one we go through again, right?
Guardian:
Just to be absolutely clear
I know there are some Americans out there who are relatively new to the game of "soccer", so lest there be any confusion after your magnificent, triumphant and heroic defeat at the hands of Germany, be aware that if you lose tonight's match you are definitely out of the tournament.
posted by languagehat at 12:49 PM on July 1, 2014 [3 favorites]
Guardian:
Just to be absolutely clear
I know there are some Americans out there who are relatively new to the game of "soccer", so lest there be any confusion after your magnificent, triumphant and heroic defeat at the hands of Germany, be aware that if you lose tonight's match you are definitely out of the tournament.
posted by languagehat at 12:49 PM on July 1, 2014 [3 favorites]
Come on my Yankee cousins!
posted by the quidnunc kid at 12:49 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by the quidnunc kid at 12:49 PM on July 1, 2014
> ... but this cheese in a can thing might be some holdover from the '70s or something?
Makes sense. I ate a lot of it as a kid (car trips) and I'm a bit of a holdover from the 70s as well.
posted by benito.strauss at 12:50 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
Makes sense. I ate a lot of it as a kid (car trips) and I'm a bit of a holdover from the 70s as well.
posted by benito.strauss at 12:50 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
Also I am just about to order a drink for languagehat's birthday.
posted by the quidnunc kid at 12:51 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by the quidnunc kid at 12:51 PM on July 1, 2014
Someone by me just said "well, the only decent outcome of US imperialism is that we were able to field a soccer team through military marriages." Don't be so vague with what you think, French relative.
posted by syncope at 12:51 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
posted by syncope at 12:51 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
For food: fried chicken, cole slaw, and corn-on-the-cob, courtesy of Popeye's. And iced tea to drink.
USA. USA. USA. USA. USA.
(The tea is unsweetened, 'cause I'm sum kina Communis or sum'in.)
posted by benito.strauss at 12:52 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
USA. USA. USA. USA. USA.
(The tea is unsweetened, 'cause I'm sum kina Communis or sum'in.)
posted by benito.strauss at 12:52 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
Are you able to watch this one, quiddy?
posted by languagehat at 12:52 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by languagehat at 12:52 PM on July 1, 2014
Tim Howard in in black today, and Belgium's GK is in blue so prepare suitable nicknames.
posted by Dr. Zira at 12:52 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by Dr. Zira at 12:52 PM on July 1, 2014
I ate a lot of it as a kid (car trips) and I'm a bit of a holdover from the 70s as well.
I ate a lot on ritz crackers in my dorm room in boarding school while skipping football practice.
posted by shothotbot at 12:52 PM on July 1, 2014
I ate a lot on ritz crackers in my dorm room in boarding school while skipping football practice.
posted by shothotbot at 12:52 PM on July 1, 2014
Dear lord, we beseech thee, may Howard's hands be quick, Dempsey shots true, and Please, Please, Please make Bradley's passes quick and accurate. Amen.
posted by eriko at 12:52 PM on July 1, 2014 [2 favorites]
posted by eriko at 12:52 PM on July 1, 2014 [2 favorites]
Cheese in a can wasn't the most ... American ... dairy product I've consumed. That would be either the chocolate lard milkshake in Santa Monica, or the the deep-fried butter on a stick at the Iowa State Fair.
How I am still alive is beyond me
posted by Wordshore at 12:53 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
How I am still alive is beyond me
posted by Wordshore at 12:53 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
Tim Howard should be Batman and Belgium should be Aquaman.
posted by Dr. Zira at 12:53 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by Dr. Zira at 12:53 PM on July 1, 2014
The pure, blue sky above the amber waves of grain vs the black heart of dessicated imperial hegemony.
posted by shothotbot at 12:54 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by shothotbot at 12:54 PM on July 1, 2014
Oh Hey! Thanks quidnunc...
HAPPY BIRTHDAY LANGUAGEHAT!!
BOTTOMS UP!!!
posted by infini at 12:54 PM on July 1, 2014 [2 favorites]
HAPPY BIRTHDAY LANGUAGEHAT!!
BOTTOMS UP!!!
posted by infini at 12:54 PM on July 1, 2014 [2 favorites]
Actually I saw the second half of the last, and will keep in touch for this one via various pubs on the way home. By the way I'm tipping an IPA in your direction, happy birthday mate!
posted by the quidnunc kid at 12:54 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by the quidnunc kid at 12:54 PM on July 1, 2014
Oops, got the colors backwards somehow, but they still sort of fit.
posted by shothotbot at 12:55 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by shothotbot at 12:55 PM on July 1, 2014
The Belgians have superlative hair
posted by From Bklyn at 12:55 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by From Bklyn at 12:55 PM on July 1, 2014
Belgium national anthem. Very old European colonial. Zzzzzzzzzzzzz...
posted by Wordshore at 12:55 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by Wordshore at 12:55 PM on July 1, 2014
... and the home of the brave *hic*!!!
posted by the quidnunc kid at 12:57 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
posted by the quidnunc kid at 12:57 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
Hey and Happy Happy, L.H., this Berliner Pilsner's for you! (Figuratively. I'll be drinking it for you.)
posted by From Bklyn at 12:57 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by From Bklyn at 12:57 PM on July 1, 2014
Klinsman singing the national anthem and Dempsey not ?
posted by Pendragon at 12:57 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by Pendragon at 12:57 PM on July 1, 2014
Went to raid the Oreo section in my local supermarket but they've doubled the price since last week. Grumble, grumble. Belgian beer it is. This does not in any way reflect what I think the result will be.
posted by kariebookish at 12:57 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by kariebookish at 12:57 PM on July 1, 2014
I HAVE HAD MY DINNER AND ALL THIS FOOD TALK IS MAKING ME HUNGRY
posted by marienbad at 12:58 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by marienbad at 12:58 PM on July 1, 2014
I have never even *seen* a can of that crap
you eat pimento cheese your argument is invalid
posted by elizardbits at 12:58 PM on July 1, 2014
you eat pimento cheese your argument is invalid
posted by elizardbits at 12:58 PM on July 1, 2014
Jeff Cameron of Stoke City!
posted by marienbad at 1:00 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
posted by marienbad at 1:00 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
Happy Happy, LH. You've got one wish — quick, light a candle and blow it out. You know what to wish for.
posted by benito.strauss at 1:00 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by benito.strauss at 1:00 PM on July 1, 2014
Klinsi criticising the fact that the ref speaks French and so do most of the Belgian players?! Wait, what? Damn these global languages that are not English!
posted by kariebookish at 1:00 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by kariebookish at 1:00 PM on July 1, 2014
I have never even *seen* a can of that crap
After several beers an acquaintance in Florida suddenly blurted out that he and his partner used it in foreplay (thankfully, no further details were given).
An awkward silence prevailed.
posted by Wordshore at 1:00 PM on July 1, 2014 [2 favorites]
After several beers an acquaintance in Florida suddenly blurted out that he and his partner used it in foreplay (thankfully, no further details were given).
An awkward silence prevailed.
posted by Wordshore at 1:00 PM on July 1, 2014 [2 favorites]
Thanks for the good wishes! From your mouths to Bradley's ear. I want another birthday victory!
posted by languagehat at 1:00 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
posted by languagehat at 1:00 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
Almost.
posted by MartinWisse at 1:01 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by MartinWisse at 1:01 PM on July 1, 2014
God bless you, Tim Howard!
posted by languagehat at 1:01 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by languagehat at 1:01 PM on July 1, 2014
Oh. Crap
posted by From Bklyn at 1:01 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by From Bklyn at 1:01 PM on July 1, 2014
Dignified kit from the US
posted by shothotbot at 1:01 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by shothotbot at 1:01 PM on July 1, 2014
Damn these global languages that are not English!
really how dare they not respect our linguistic hegemony
posted by elizardbits at 1:01 PM on July 1, 2014
really how dare they not respect our linguistic hegemony
posted by elizardbits at 1:01 PM on July 1, 2014
I *make* the pimento cheese from real cheese and Helman's. It's not some nasty crap out of a jar.
Yankee.
posted by syncope at 1:01 PM on July 1, 2014
Yankee.
posted by syncope at 1:01 PM on July 1, 2014
Let do this.
posted by robocop is bleeding at 1:01 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by robocop is bleeding at 1:01 PM on July 1, 2014
Nice stop Timmy H!
posted by the quidnunc kid at 1:01 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by the quidnunc kid at 1:01 PM on July 1, 2014
Let's watch soccer superpower Belgium crush the hopes of plucky underdog America.
posted by MartinWisse at 1:01 PM on July 1, 2014 [2 favorites]
posted by MartinWisse at 1:01 PM on July 1, 2014 [2 favorites]
> Is this an inside joke or something people actually think is common in the US? I have never even *seen* a can of that crap.
You are looking for it in the cheese section of the store. Do not look for it in the cheese section. It is with the plastic goods.
posted by ardgedee at 1:01 PM on July 1, 2014 [5 favorites]
You are looking for it in the cheese section of the store. Do not look for it in the cheese section. It is with the plastic goods.
posted by ardgedee at 1:01 PM on July 1, 2014 [5 favorites]
Wait. What's Belgianish for Not In The Face?
posted by robocop is bleeding at 1:02 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by robocop is bleeding at 1:02 PM on July 1, 2014
oh no it's true i like pie for breakfast
posted by elizardbits at 1:02 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by elizardbits at 1:02 PM on July 1, 2014
No offence to America, but I want that Belgian-Dutch semi final.
posted by MartinWisse at 1:02 PM on July 1, 2014 [2 favorites]
posted by MartinWisse at 1:02 PM on July 1, 2014 [2 favorites]
Hmm, I might be getting some work done this afternoon after all.
posted by shothotbot at 1:03 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by shothotbot at 1:03 PM on July 1, 2014
> No offence to America, but I want that Belgian-Dutch semi final.
No offense taken. Americans will avoid our usual impulse to correct you for your misbelief.
posted by ardgedee at 1:03 PM on July 1, 2014
No offense taken. Americans will avoid our usual impulse to correct you for your misbelief.
posted by ardgedee at 1:03 PM on July 1, 2014
GOOOOOAAAAAALLLLLL!
Is what you're looking to score in football.
posted by Thing at 1:04 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
Is what you're looking to score in football.
posted by Thing at 1:04 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
To be fair, the Refs are mandated to be able to speak English by FIFA. Don't blame us.
posted by syncope at 1:04 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by syncope at 1:04 PM on July 1, 2014
Oh great... I'm not the only one then...
Packing is overrated.
posted by ersatz at 1:04 PM on July 1, 2014
Packing is overrated.
posted by ersatz at 1:04 PM on July 1, 2014
yr friendly neighbourhood african fan timeline member will share choice bits. Already origi is being singled out, he's Kenya born
posted by infini at 1:04 PM on July 1, 2014
And Bradley passes to Harvey.
posted by languagehat at 1:05 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by languagehat at 1:05 PM on July 1, 2014
I like that Fellaini has enough hair for both him and DaMarcus.
posted by Dr. Zira at 1:06 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by Dr. Zira at 1:06 PM on July 1, 2014
It should be two points for getting one on top of the net.
posted by shothotbot at 1:07 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
posted by shothotbot at 1:07 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
And remember America, no matter what happens, you didn't go out in the group stages like England. Or Italy. Or Spain.
posted by MartinWisse at 1:07 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by MartinWisse at 1:07 PM on July 1, 2014
Welp at least nobody's rooting for Al Jazeerah like they were doing during last night's GER/ALG match...
Otoh, it is Tuesday, so it must be Belgium.
posted by infini at 1:07 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
Otoh, it is Tuesday, so it must be Belgium.
posted by infini at 1:07 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
> It should be two points for getting one on top of the net.
Three points because it was a long shot. That's how it works in basketball, and fair's fair.
posted by ardgedee at 1:08 PM on July 1, 2014
Three points because it was a long shot. That's how it works in basketball, and fair's fair.
posted by ardgedee at 1:08 PM on July 1, 2014
kariebookish: "Klinsi criticising the fact that the ref speaks French and so do most of the Belgian players?! Wait, what? Damn these global languages that are not English!"I think it's only fair since the Belgian team doesn't have a common language anyway ... ;)
posted by brokkr at 1:09 PM on July 1, 2014
Well, the first 10 mins have been better than the first 110 mins of ARG:SWI earlier.
posted by marienbad at 1:11 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by marienbad at 1:11 PM on July 1, 2014
o snap y'all i just saw bradley complete a pass we got this
posted by robocop is bleeding at 1:13 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
posted by robocop is bleeding at 1:13 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
Yeah, these two teams deserve each other. Seems like it has often been the case. Teams being evenly matched.
Of course if we had another Beasley or two...
posted by From Bklyn at 1:15 PM on July 1, 2014
Of course if we had another Beasley or two...
posted by From Bklyn at 1:15 PM on July 1, 2014
Why are the Univision commentators talking about the Jackson Five??
posted by languagehat at 1:15 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by languagehat at 1:15 PM on July 1, 2014
Fascinating... African t/l includes reminders that Belgium means King Leopold (y' know, this FPP topic) and that USA/Belgium were involved in Patrice Lumbumba's mysterious death.
posted by infini at 1:15 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by infini at 1:15 PM on July 1, 2014
IDIOT ON THE PITCH!
posted by eriko at 1:15 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
posted by eriko at 1:15 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
DAMMIT BRADLEY!
posted by eriko at 1:16 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
posted by eriko at 1:16 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
Is that quidnuuc?
posted by shothotbot at 1:17 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by shothotbot at 1:17 PM on July 1, 2014
Jeff "Jeff" Cameron getting booked.
posted by MartinWisse at 1:18 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by MartinWisse at 1:18 PM on July 1, 2014
Oops. As brokkr said, not solid so far, and now....
Its great to be a neutral again, although as a European I should be cheering on Belgium.
posted by marienbad at 1:18 PM on July 1, 2014
Its great to be a neutral again, although as a European I should be cheering on Belgium.
posted by marienbad at 1:18 PM on July 1, 2014
Americans lost to Germany and still went through. They must wonder how many more games they have to lose to win the World Cup. #stolen
posted by infini at 1:19 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by infini at 1:19 PM on July 1, 2014
Doesn't univision stream free?
posted by shothotbot at 1:20 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by shothotbot at 1:20 PM on July 1, 2014
BBC coverage of the match has just briefly cut away to Joe Biden, who appears to be sitting in a hot tub with several female sports commentators.
Man, just gotta love the USA.
posted by Wordshore at 1:20 PM on July 1, 2014
Man, just gotta love the USA.
posted by Wordshore at 1:20 PM on July 1, 2014
> Doesn't univision stream free?
Need English-language announcing because I'm only intermittently in front of a screen to see what's going on.
The stream's back but it looks like I've accumulated about three minutes worth of delays, so. I'll be lagging.
posted by ardgedee at 1:22 PM on July 1, 2014
Need English-language announcing because I'm only intermittently in front of a screen to see what's going on.
The stream's back but it looks like I've accumulated about three minutes worth of delays, so. I'll be lagging.
posted by ardgedee at 1:22 PM on July 1, 2014
Both teams are looking best on the offense. I think we're gonna see a bit more goals here than in the other knockout games.
posted by brokkr at 1:22 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by brokkr at 1:22 PM on July 1, 2014
Jesus. I don't know if I can take much more of this.
posted by languagehat at 1:22 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by languagehat at 1:22 PM on July 1, 2014
Dammit Kevin, that should've been on the other side of the post.
posted by MartinWisse at 1:23 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by MartinWisse at 1:23 PM on July 1, 2014
Sorry guys just did a little pitch invasion there. I thought the pitch was acting a little terrorist, plus it has some oil underneath, thought: man, I gotta invade that shit. Before Cheney does. Anyway - yeah. Sorry.
posted by the quidnunc kid at 1:23 PM on July 1, 2014 [7 favorites]
posted by the quidnunc kid at 1:23 PM on July 1, 2014 [7 favorites]
ardgedee: "Need English-language announcing because I'm only intermittently in front of a screen to see what's going on."Spanish announcing is not a problem. You know you have to run in and catch the replay if he screams ¡gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool gol gol golgolgolgolgolgol goooooooooooooooooooooooooooool!
posted by brokkr at 1:23 PM on July 1, 2014 [3 favorites]
Fellaini's hair has magical set piece powers. It is known.
posted by Dr. Zira at 1:25 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
posted by Dr. Zira at 1:25 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
Beasley!
posted by From Bklyn at 1:25 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by From Bklyn at 1:25 PM on July 1, 2014
Every time Belgium attacks down the left, the Hazard lights come on.
posted by MartinWisse at 1:26 PM on July 1, 2014 [2 favorites]
posted by MartinWisse at 1:26 PM on July 1, 2014 [2 favorites]
I prefer Univision for soccer because since I can't understand them they can't annoy me with how dumb they are. Of course, I'm biased because all of our commentation in English for ESPN is done by people who don't appear to understand that if I'm watching a game between two non-US countries I DON'T WANT all the commentary to be about the US team.
posted by winna at 1:26 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by winna at 1:26 PM on July 1, 2014
Belgium's showing some pretty good moves here. Not long and they'll score.
posted by travelwithcats at 1:27 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by travelwithcats at 1:27 PM on July 1, 2014
SAD FOOTBALLERS
The World Cup: Making grown men cry since 1930
posted by infini at 1:28 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
The World Cup: Making grown men cry since 1930
posted by infini at 1:28 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
Anybody know why Beckerman isn't in the starting 11? He seemed to acquit himself well in the first three games.
Also he's on my manager team so I'm annoyed with that.
posted by brokkr at 1:28 PM on July 1, 2014
Also he's on my manager team so I'm annoyed with that.
posted by brokkr at 1:28 PM on July 1, 2014
Great break and a great ball over the top. Superb interception though.
posted by marienbad at 1:29 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by marienbad at 1:29 PM on July 1, 2014
BBC commentators can't wrap their tongue around Toby Alderweireld.
posted by MartinWisse at 1:29 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by MartinWisse at 1:29 PM on July 1, 2014
Crap! Johnson!
posted by From Bklyn at 1:30 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by From Bklyn at 1:30 PM on July 1, 2014
DAMMIT we need to get some real pressure here.
I think Johnson just dinged his MCL. Looks like Yedlin's going to come on.
posted by eriko at 1:30 PM on July 1, 2014
I think Johnson just dinged his MCL. Looks like Yedlin's going to come on.
posted by eriko at 1:30 PM on July 1, 2014
Jones isn't playing very well. Johnson looks like he's about to cry.
posted by eriko at 1:33 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by eriko at 1:33 PM on July 1, 2014
BBC commentators can't wrap their tongue around Toby Alderweireld.
BBC commentators are terrible with non-English names.
posted by ersatz at 1:34 PM on July 1, 2014
BBC commentators are terrible with non-English names.
posted by ersatz at 1:34 PM on July 1, 2014
A hot mess with moments of better-than-averageness
posted by From Bklyn at 1:35 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
posted by From Bklyn at 1:35 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
Yedlin looks so happy!
posted by shothotbot at 1:35 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by shothotbot at 1:35 PM on July 1, 2014
Have all the group of 16 matches been scoreless at the end of the first half?
posted by shothotbot at 1:36 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by shothotbot at 1:36 PM on July 1, 2014
Columbia led Uruguay 1-0 at half time. Brazil - Chile was 1-1 after 32 minutes and stayed that way until penalties.
posted by brokkr at 1:37 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by brokkr at 1:37 PM on July 1, 2014
But for two matches, (Columbia and someone else).
posted by From Bklyn at 1:37 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by From Bklyn at 1:37 PM on July 1, 2014
I know this reveals my complete ignorance of the sport, but why oh why do they always pull up with the ball right outside of the box? Press!
posted by ob1quixote at 1:38 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by ob1quixote at 1:38 PM on July 1, 2014
Felliani off. Better quality in the final third and Belgium would be ahead.
posted by marienbad at 1:38 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by marienbad at 1:38 PM on July 1, 2014
I know this reveals my complete ignorance of the sport, but why oh why do they always pull up with the ball right outside of the box? Press!
Too easy to lose the ball in the box going in straight at the defence, looking or waiting for people in onside positions to be available for passes, trying to lure defenders out of position.
posted by MartinWisse at 1:40 PM on July 1, 2014
Too easy to lose the ball in the box going in straight at the defence, looking or waiting for people in onside positions to be available for passes, trying to lure defenders out of position.
posted by MartinWisse at 1:40 PM on July 1, 2014
marienbad: "Felliani off. Better quality in the final third and Belgium would be ahead."To be fair, the Merkins have shaped up in the defense and are better than at the start of the half. Also, new guy Yedlin is making some good crosses.
posted by brokkr at 1:42 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
I am happy to report the Brazilian commentators on Globo are having no problems pronouncing the Americans' names. On the other hand, either they're avoiding saying Belgian players' names or the Belgians aren't doing much worth commenting on.
posted by needled at 1:42 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by needled at 1:42 PM on July 1, 2014
Fabulous move, great running by Yedlin.
As MartinWisse says, too easy to concede possession, and as you are attacking you are vulnerable to the counter-attack.
posted by marienbad at 1:42 PM on July 1, 2014
As MartinWisse says, too easy to concede possession, and as you are attacking you are vulnerable to the counter-attack.
posted by marienbad at 1:42 PM on July 1, 2014
Please just throw off Kompany already before someone breaks a leg.
posted by brokkr at 1:42 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by brokkr at 1:42 PM on July 1, 2014
Please don't call us the Merkins.
posted by maryr at 1:43 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
posted by maryr at 1:43 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
Oh, the Belgians are doing all the things, actually.
posted by travelwithcats at 1:44 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by travelwithcats at 1:44 PM on July 1, 2014
Wow! The ref wants Fellinani to get a haircut!
posted by shothotbot at 1:45 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by shothotbot at 1:45 PM on July 1, 2014
And Kevin de Bruyne just showed why I had him in my Villa squad in FM2013.
posted by MartinWisse at 1:46 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by MartinWisse at 1:46 PM on July 1, 2014
excellent thinking by de Bruyne. Yedlin looks better then the guy he replaced.
posted by marienbad at 1:47 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by marienbad at 1:47 PM on July 1, 2014
God, I haved played FM since 2006 and I get such awful cravings when the World Cup is on ... but I also want to keep my job and wife.
posted by brokkr at 1:48 PM on July 1, 2014 [2 favorites]
posted by brokkr at 1:48 PM on July 1, 2014 [2 favorites]
There appears to be a few people watching this match in the USA.
posted by Wordshore at 1:48 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by Wordshore at 1:48 PM on July 1, 2014
Turns out two of my cow-orkers at the new place also play FM.
posted by MartinWisse at 1:49 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by MartinWisse at 1:49 PM on July 1, 2014
Peep PEEP!
US is looking better than they did against Germany but still not good. Defense is starting to leak, though Yedlin is doing far better than I'd expected.
posted by eriko at 1:49 PM on July 1, 2014
US is looking better than they did against Germany but still not good. Defense is starting to leak, though Yedlin is doing far better than I'd expected.
posted by eriko at 1:49 PM on July 1, 2014
Wow, this is not beautiful game. German announcer made cogent point: "one team has better individual players, the other better team spirit."
posted by From Bklyn at 1:50 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
posted by From Bklyn at 1:50 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
There appears to be a few people watching this match in the USA.
Note that Soldier Field seats 61,500 and the field itself is packed.
posted by eriko at 1:50 PM on July 1, 2014 [2 favorites]
Note that Soldier Field seats 61,500 and the field itself is packed.
posted by eriko at 1:50 PM on July 1, 2014 [2 favorites]
So what do you make of that? Americans? Belgians? Neutrals?
Who is your player of the half for each side? Who would you change at HT? (Felliani and Mertens off)
posted by marienbad at 1:50 PM on July 1, 2014
Who is your player of the half for each side? Who would you change at HT? (Felliani and Mertens off)
posted by marienbad at 1:50 PM on July 1, 2014
Lukaku on.
Straddlin Yedlin is doing great work for the US.
Zusi must do more than make me crave seafood and actually help defend when Belgium attacks.
Same for Hazard on the other side.
posted by MartinWisse at 1:52 PM on July 1, 2014
Straddlin Yedlin is doing great work for the US.
Zusi must do more than make me crave seafood and actually help defend when Belgium attacks.
Same for Hazard on the other side.
posted by MartinWisse at 1:52 PM on July 1, 2014
Globo is now showing me Neymar cruising around on a bicycle. This is important news!
posted by needled at 1:54 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by needled at 1:54 PM on July 1, 2014
Your half-time quote, the end of the acknowledgments to Inverting the Pyramid:
"And thanks, finally, to [...] Network Rail for the points failure that led to the long wait just north of Durham during which the flaw in Reep's theory became apparent to me."
posted by languagehat at 1:54 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
"And thanks, finally, to [...] Network Rail for the points failure that led to the long wait just north of Durham during which the flaw in Reep's theory became apparent to me."
posted by languagehat at 1:54 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
On the US, Yedlin is stepping up. Jones isn't playing as well as he has been. Bradley is annoying, but not nearly has bad as he has been. Dempsey is a non-factor.
Stat of the match: 0 players offside.
Surprisingly, Possession is 53%-47% to the USA. Unsurprisingly, 10 fouls by Belgium, twice the US total. But the real story is 9 shots for Belgium, 2 for the US.
posted by eriko at 1:56 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
Stat of the match: 0 players offside.
Surprisingly, Possession is 53%-47% to the USA. Unsurprisingly, 10 fouls by Belgium, twice the US total. But the real story is 9 shots for Belgium, 2 for the US.
posted by eriko at 1:56 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
Is the ESPN Radio app commentary any good? In a half hour I'm left with the dubious "choice" of staying late to watch or listening as I take the 20 minute commute home.
posted by robocop is bleeding at 1:59 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by robocop is bleeding at 1:59 PM on July 1, 2014
On the Belgian telly, the commentators are cocky. Also half Dutch, with Jan Boskamp en Jan Mulder.
posted by MartinWisse at 1:59 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by MartinWisse at 1:59 PM on July 1, 2014
In a half hour I'm left with the dubious "choice" of staying late to watch or listening as I take the 20 minute commute home.
Skive off early and find a bar.
posted by MartinWisse at 2:00 PM on July 1, 2014 [2 favorites]
Skive off early and find a bar.
posted by MartinWisse at 2:00 PM on July 1, 2014 [2 favorites]
I'm so jealous of you all who have jobs (or not) where you can watch live..
posted by 26.2 at 2:02 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by 26.2 at 2:02 PM on July 1, 2014
My office is showing the game in a big conference room. They even put out some snacks!
posted by Area Man at 2:04 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by Area Man at 2:04 PM on July 1, 2014
You know, this is a lot more enjoyable when we're not playing!
posted by eriko at 2:08 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by eriko at 2:08 PM on July 1, 2014
Do I hear... Is that a fucking vuvuzela?
posted by From Bklyn at 2:08 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by From Bklyn at 2:08 PM on July 1, 2014
Wait, Zusi studies criminology? I smell tv series.
posted by MartinWisse at 2:09 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
posted by MartinWisse at 2:09 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
Do I hear... Is that a fucking vuvuzela?
NUKE IT FROM ORBIT
posted by Wordshore at 2:10 PM on July 1, 2014
NUKE IT FROM ORBIT
posted by Wordshore at 2:10 PM on July 1, 2014
US seemed sharper in the first half
posted by shothotbot at 2:12 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by shothotbot at 2:12 PM on July 1, 2014
WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT??!
posted by languagehat at 2:13 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by languagehat at 2:13 PM on July 1, 2014
And Liverpool's alleged new striker showing great promise for Everton.
posted by MartinWisse at 2:13 PM on July 1, 2014 [2 favorites]
posted by MartinWisse at 2:13 PM on July 1, 2014 [2 favorites]
Ouch
posted by From Bklyn at 2:15 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by From Bklyn at 2:15 PM on July 1, 2014
What was that you were saying Matinwisse? Superb header!
posted by marienbad at 2:15 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by marienbad at 2:15 PM on July 1, 2014
This is absolutely bizarre.
posted by languagehat at 2:15 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by languagehat at 2:15 PM on July 1, 2014
Something's very broken with the US right now. The only reason this is still 0-0 is Howard.
posted by eriko at 2:15 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
posted by eriko at 2:15 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
Is Beckermans hair powerful enough? I'm just not sure.
posted by From Bklyn at 2:16 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by From Bklyn at 2:16 PM on July 1, 2014
Yup.
posted by languagehat at 2:17 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by languagehat at 2:17 PM on July 1, 2014
> Do I hear... Is that a fucking vuvuzela?
FIFA banned vuvuzelas from the stadiums this year, so they have to be smuggled in.
They also banned the caxirola, but only after Brazil had spent some money commissioning Carlinhos Brown to invent them. Turns out they travel pretty well when thrown, and fans were using them to decorate the field after bad calls..
posted by ardgedee at 2:18 PM on July 1, 2014
FIFA banned vuvuzelas from the stadiums this year, so they have to be smuggled in.
They also banned the caxirola, but only after Brazil had spent some money commissioning Carlinhos Brown to invent them. Turns out they travel pretty well when thrown, and fans were using them to decorate the field after bad calls..
posted by ardgedee at 2:18 PM on July 1, 2014
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
posted by MartinWisse at 2:18 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by MartinWisse at 2:18 PM on July 1, 2014
Beckerman and Brooks!
posted by shothotbot at 2:18 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by shothotbot at 2:18 PM on July 1, 2014
My "Yup" was a response to eriko. I have no opinion on the sufficiency of the power of Beckerman's hair.
posted by languagehat at 2:18 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by languagehat at 2:18 PM on July 1, 2014
Luck can last for 120 minutes, right?
posted by shothotbot at 2:19 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by shothotbot at 2:19 PM on July 1, 2014
Oh look! A football game's starting!
posted by From Bklyn at 2:21 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by From Bklyn at 2:21 PM on July 1, 2014
Tim Howard is getting overexcited.
posted by languagehat at 2:22 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by languagehat at 2:22 PM on July 1, 2014
If Altidore can go, Altidore for Zusi. If he can't, Beckermann for, and I hate to say it, Jones.
posted by eriko at 2:24 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by eriko at 2:24 PM on July 1, 2014
Shots -- 20 to 3 Belgium.
posted by eriko at 2:25 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
posted by eriko at 2:25 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
USA have lost focus here, the pressure is starting to tell, they can't get it properly clear and when they do the sometimes give it away.
Zusi off now.
posted by marienbad at 2:27 PM on July 1, 2014
Zusi off now.
posted by marienbad at 2:27 PM on July 1, 2014
Looks like Wondo's coming in, which means it's either Zusi or Bedoya off.
posted by eriko at 2:28 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by eriko at 2:28 PM on July 1, 2014
Belgium has made all of its goals in the last 20 min of play.
posted by From Bklyn at 2:28 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by From Bklyn at 2:28 PM on July 1, 2014
Howard did very well to block that - looked like a goal for Belgium.
posted by running order squabble fest at 2:30 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by running order squabble fest at 2:30 PM on July 1, 2014
Still alive, America! Your flag is still there, and all that.
posted by the quidnunc kid at 2:32 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
posted by the quidnunc kid at 2:32 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
He's like a pitcher throwing a no-hitter and wishing his teammates would get him a fucking run to work with.
posted by languagehat at 2:32 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
posted by languagehat at 2:32 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
With a proper forward on now that ought to free up Dempsey so that Bradley can drop back and defend more.
posted by Dr. Zira at 2:33 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by Dr. Zira at 2:33 PM on July 1, 2014
Howard has amazing hands. I bet he could safely hold 20, maybe 30 babies at once.
posted by evidenceofabsence at 2:33 PM on July 1, 2014 [2 favorites]
posted by evidenceofabsence at 2:33 PM on July 1, 2014 [2 favorites]
God, and again - with one foot!
posted by running order squabble fest at 2:34 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by running order squabble fest at 2:34 PM on July 1, 2014
Ho! Another good save from Howard.
posted by the quidnunc kid at 2:34 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by the quidnunc kid at 2:34 PM on July 1, 2014
Howard has amazing hands. I bet he could safely hold 20, maybe 30 babies at once.
Just imagine how safe you'd feel if he hugged you.
posted by running order squabble fest at 2:34 PM on July 1, 2014 [3 favorites]
Just imagine how safe you'd feel if he hugged you.
posted by running order squabble fest at 2:34 PM on July 1, 2014 [3 favorites]
US gets lucky again. I don't think they can count on shots going wide forever.
posted by languagehat at 2:34 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by languagehat at 2:34 PM on July 1, 2014
Just imagine how safe you'd feel if he hugged you.
Oh, I am.
posted by evidenceofabsence at 2:34 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
Oh, I am.
posted by evidenceofabsence at 2:34 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
Tim Howard er veel te veel.
posted by MartinWisse at 2:35 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by MartinWisse at 2:35 PM on July 1, 2014
I only ran over three old ladies and a dog making it home.
posted by robocop is bleeding at 2:35 PM on July 1, 2014 [4 favorites]
posted by robocop is bleeding at 2:35 PM on July 1, 2014 [4 favorites]
Ow!
posted by From Bklyn at 2:35 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by From Bklyn at 2:35 PM on July 1, 2014
When I next need a sockpuppet, it will be Tim Howard's Legs. Tim Howard's Legs are clearly this game's MVP.
posted by ocherdraco at 2:36 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
posted by ocherdraco at 2:36 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
Since the game is still indeterminate, a question for the metafilter punditry:
Who has the most evocative name in this match? I nominate Eden Hazard.
posted by ardgedee at 2:36 PM on July 1, 2014
Who has the most evocative name in this match? I nominate Eden Hazard.
posted by ardgedee at 2:36 PM on July 1, 2014
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
posted by MartinWisse at 2:37 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by MartinWisse at 2:37 PM on July 1, 2014
Jesus, America! Get in the box!
posted by the quidnunc kid at 2:38 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by the quidnunc kid at 2:38 PM on July 1, 2014
Every Fulham supporter is now thinking why Howard couldn't play like this for them.
posted by MartinWisse at 2:38 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by MartinWisse at 2:38 PM on July 1, 2014
TIM HOWARD FOR PRESIDENT.
posted by Dr. Zira at 2:39 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
posted by Dr. Zira at 2:39 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
Nice pressing, won the throw ...
posted by the quidnunc kid at 2:39 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by the quidnunc kid at 2:39 PM on July 1, 2014
Commentators talking about how great Tim Howard is. Gotta be the kiss of death.
posted by shothotbot at 2:39 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by shothotbot at 2:39 PM on July 1, 2014
Would there be erected a statue of Tim Howard if Congress were still in the business of passing spending bills?
posted by ersatz at 2:39 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by ersatz at 2:39 PM on July 1, 2014
Dammit, Wondo couldn't pull the trigger.
posted by eriko at 2:39 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
posted by eriko at 2:39 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
Ugh. ESPN feed is getting fuzzy for me.
posted by ocherdraco at 2:40 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by ocherdraco at 2:40 PM on July 1, 2014
All of the teams that banned sex at the World Cup have been eliminated
posted by infini at 2:40 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
posted by infini at 2:40 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
Howard's going to have to carry on doing this for 40 more minutes, though. Ouch.
posted by running order squabble fest at 2:40 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
posted by running order squabble fest at 2:40 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
Great tackle!
posted by the quidnunc kid at 2:41 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by the quidnunc kid at 2:41 PM on July 1, 2014
So many shots on goal by Belgium, its like the Howard has been defending PKs already
posted by shothotbot at 2:42 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by shothotbot at 2:42 PM on July 1, 2014
HOWARD!!!!
posted by languagehat at 2:42 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by languagehat at 2:42 PM on July 1, 2014
Great tackle!
No, that's just the way those shorts ride up.
posted by MartinWisse at 2:43 PM on July 1, 2014 [4 favorites]
No, that's just the way those shorts ride up.
posted by MartinWisse at 2:43 PM on July 1, 2014 [4 favorites]
This is the Keepers' World Cup, no? Another great stop from Howard.
posted by the quidnunc kid at 2:43 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by the quidnunc kid at 2:43 PM on July 1, 2014
Or, as they say on Univision, el fabuloso Tim Howard!!
posted by languagehat at 2:43 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by languagehat at 2:43 PM on July 1, 2014
Lukaku for Felliani now!! maybe. or anyone but Felliani
posted by marienbad at 2:43 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by marienbad at 2:43 PM on July 1, 2014
The US finally has a corner...
posted by running order squabble fest at 2:44 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by running order squabble fest at 2:44 PM on July 1, 2014
According to Google's match stats, Belgium has 19 shots on goal, to the U.S.'s 4.
posted by ultraviolet catastrophe at 2:44 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by ultraviolet catastrophe at 2:44 PM on July 1, 2014
Hazard - you can pass the ball mate, you don't have to take them all on.
posted by marienbad at 2:44 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by marienbad at 2:44 PM on July 1, 2014
Is this going to extra time? Aka OBAMATIME??? Surely we can petition to Supreme Court to stop that happening. It's against my religious beliefs, for one; also I abjure stress.
posted by the quidnunc kid at 2:46 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
posted by the quidnunc kid at 2:46 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
Come on Belgium, score so I can go to bed.
posted by MartinWisse at 2:47 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
posted by MartinWisse at 2:47 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
Good thing Cameron is in there
posted by shothotbot at 2:47 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by shothotbot at 2:47 PM on July 1, 2014
Belgium 0 - Tim Howard 0
The US has to hope for this at this point.
posted by kmz at 2:47 PM on July 1, 2014 [2 favorites]
The US has to hope for this at this point.
posted by kmz at 2:47 PM on July 1, 2014 [2 favorites]
And another promising attack fizzles out and Belgium takes it to our goal and Howard has to make another save.
posted by languagehat at 2:48 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by languagehat at 2:48 PM on July 1, 2014
Dear ARG and SWI: This is how you do 0-0.
posted by Dr. Zira at 2:49 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
posted by Dr. Zira at 2:49 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
That must be a billion chances by now. Also, getting to see the stats would be nice.
posted by ersatz at 2:49 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by ersatz at 2:49 PM on July 1, 2014
Yeah but be fair, only one team came out to play football in that game.
posted by marienbad at 2:50 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by marienbad at 2:50 PM on July 1, 2014
OH FUCK!
posted by the quidnunc kid at 2:50 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by the quidnunc kid at 2:50 PM on July 1, 2014
NO NO NO NO
posted by languagehat at 2:50 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by languagehat at 2:50 PM on July 1, 2014
Aaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!
posted by From Bklyn at 2:50 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by From Bklyn at 2:50 PM on July 1, 2014
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOADDDDDDDDVVEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
posted by MartinWisse at 2:50 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by MartinWisse at 2:50 PM on July 1, 2014
Klinsmann looked like he was thinking he would have never missed that one.
posted by ersatz at 2:51 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
posted by ersatz at 2:51 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
PEEP PEEP OH GOD I CAN'T TAKE THIS ANYMORE PEEP!
posted by eriko at 2:51 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
posted by eriko at 2:51 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
Tim Howard could save anything - even publishing.
posted by infini at 2:52 PM on July 1, 2014 [2 favorites]
posted by infini at 2:52 PM on July 1, 2014 [2 favorites]
God, if he scuffed it because he heard the whistle... that was definitely onside.
The US seem to be ending the half strongly - maybe their fitness levels?
It's been a rollicking game so far...
posted by running order squabble fest at 2:52 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
The US seem to be ending the half strongly - maybe their fitness levels?
It's been a rollicking game so far...
posted by running order squabble fest at 2:52 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
Possibly stupid question: why do the Belgians have little US flags on their jerseys? Were we supposed to put little Belgian flags on ours?
posted by evidenceofabsence at 2:52 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by evidenceofabsence at 2:52 PM on July 1, 2014
Shit.
posted by benito.strauss at 2:52 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by benito.strauss at 2:52 PM on July 1, 2014
"Hello? Is this Jurgen? Yes, I know you're busy right now... I just wanted to be sure that whatever Tim Howard asks for after this game, make sure he gets it. Even that. No questions. Okay. Get back to work, talk to you later. Thanks bye."
posted by ardgedee at 2:53 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
posted by ardgedee at 2:53 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
why do the Belgians have little US flags on their jerseys?
A few of the teams have put both countries flags on their jerseys. Polite I guess. World cup kit though the ages. Well, through the last 80 years anyhow.
posted by shothotbot at 2:55 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
A few of the teams have put both countries flags on their jerseys. Polite I guess. World cup kit though the ages. Well, through the last 80 years anyhow.
posted by shothotbot at 2:55 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
I have removed the work-appropriate USA home jersey of hard fought ties. I have donned the rocket pop away jersey of TOTAL DOMINATION.
WARPIG
posted by robocop is bleeding at 2:56 PM on July 1, 2014 [2 favorites]
WARPIG
posted by robocop is bleeding at 2:56 PM on July 1, 2014 [2 favorites]
My world cup kit link doesn't show the little flags, so sorry for that.
posted by shothotbot at 2:56 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by shothotbot at 2:56 PM on July 1, 2014
shothotbot: "A few of the teams have put both countries flags on their jerseys. Polite I guess."The jerseys aren't going to be used again anyway. It makes them into nice souvenirs for the players who switch jerseys with an opponent.
posted by brokkr at 2:56 PM on July 1, 2014
I have also donned the brown shorts of OH FUCK NOT LUKAKU
posted by robocop is bleeding at 2:56 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
posted by robocop is bleeding at 2:56 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
According to the White House: President Obama believes. #LetsWinThisThing #USA https://vine.co/v/MFLJQ97UXOY
posted by 26.2 at 2:57 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by 26.2 at 2:57 PM on July 1, 2014
WARPIG
From now on whenever I'm in a meeting and have been told I have a crucial deadline, I'm going to intone WARPIG super aggressively and with brio.
And we're off again!
posted by winna at 2:58 PM on July 1, 2014
From now on whenever I'm in a meeting and have been told I have a crucial deadline, I'm going to intone WARPIG super aggressively and with brio.
And we're off again!
posted by winna at 2:58 PM on July 1, 2014
Bugger.
posted by the quidnunc kid at 2:59 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by the quidnunc kid at 2:59 PM on July 1, 2014
Prince Harry scores!
posted by Thing at 2:59 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
posted by Thing at 2:59 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
Oh, Dr. Zira.
posted by ersatz at 2:59 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
posted by ersatz at 2:59 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
There it is. Timbits stopped 13 of them, and they brought 14.
posted by eriko at 2:59 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by eriko at 2:59 PM on July 1, 2014
Whoof. That was a long time coming.
posted by running order squabble fest at 2:59 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by running order squabble fest at 2:59 PM on July 1, 2014
COME ON AMERICA, LET'S MAKE THIS THING RIGHT.
posted by the quidnunc kid at 3:00 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by the quidnunc kid at 3:00 PM on July 1, 2014
fuck
posted by languagehat at 3:00 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by languagehat at 3:00 PM on July 1, 2014
Poop.
posted by evidenceofabsence at 3:00 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by evidenceofabsence at 3:00 PM on July 1, 2014
Of course my connection craps out and comes back right as the univision man is going GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
posted by winna at 3:00 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by winna at 3:00 PM on July 1, 2014
what was that
posted by languagehat at 3:01 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by languagehat at 3:01 PM on July 1, 2014
Beeeeeeeeeeeeeellllllllllllggggggggiiiiiieeeeeeeeee!
posted by MartinWisse at 3:01 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by MartinWisse at 3:01 PM on July 1, 2014
i am giving up capitals and punctuation in protest
posted by languagehat at 3:02 PM on July 1, 2014 [5 favorites]
posted by languagehat at 3:02 PM on July 1, 2014 [5 favorites]
I blame The Guardian MBM blog for jinxing us. He opened coverage of the first extra time round by showering effusive praise on the US team. Bastard.
posted by ardgedee at 3:03 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by ardgedee at 3:03 PM on July 1, 2014
Belgium! YES!
posted by travelwithcats at 3:04 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by travelwithcats at 3:04 PM on July 1, 2014
I'm really enjoying the relative lack of dramatic dives & histrionics in this match. I may have jinxed things by typing this.
posted by kariebookish at 3:05 PM on July 1, 2014 [3 favorites]
posted by kariebookish at 3:05 PM on July 1, 2014 [3 favorites]
WHEN THERE IS A BALL IN FRONT OF YOU KICK IT. DO NOT STAND AND THINK TO YOURSELF, "oh my a ball, in front of me. curious."
KICK THAT BALL. KICK IT.
posted by ardgedee at 3:07 PM on July 1, 2014 [4 favorites]
KICK THAT BALL. KICK IT.
posted by ardgedee at 3:07 PM on July 1, 2014 [4 favorites]
I'm guessing Altidore can't go on, because now is the time for him.
posted by eriko at 3:07 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by eriko at 3:07 PM on July 1, 2014
Arjen Robben would have performed the entire Wagner canon by this point in the match.
posted by Dr. Zira at 3:07 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
posted by Dr. Zira at 3:07 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
I'm really enjoying the relative lack of dramatic dives & histrionics in this match. I may have jinxed things by typing this.
Yeah you jinxed us.
posted by winna at 3:10 PM on July 1, 2014
Yeah you jinxed us.
posted by winna at 3:10 PM on July 1, 2014
Okay I can't not like Kevin de Bruyne at this point. That was very nice of him.
posted by Dr. Zira at 3:10 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by Dr. Zira at 3:10 PM on July 1, 2014
can we maybe borrow di maria and messi for a few minutes
posted by languagehat at 3:11 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by languagehat at 3:11 PM on July 1, 2014
No contact, just a ball driven into the face from point-blank range.
posted by ardgedee at 3:11 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by ardgedee at 3:11 PM on July 1, 2014
At least the Tim Howard memes will be fantastic.
posted by Dr. Zira at 3:11 PM on July 1, 2014 [2 favorites]
posted by Dr. Zira at 3:11 PM on July 1, 2014 [2 favorites]
oh jesus another one
posted by languagehat at 3:12 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by languagehat at 3:12 PM on July 1, 2014
wooooooo
posted by elizardbits at 3:12 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by elizardbits at 3:12 PM on July 1, 2014
Bugger, again.
posted by the quidnunc kid at 3:12 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by the quidnunc kid at 3:12 PM on July 1, 2014
Okay, World Cup Ronald McDonalds. You win this one.
posted by evidenceofabsence at 3:12 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by evidenceofabsence at 3:12 PM on July 1, 2014
Done and dusted.
posted by MartinWisse at 3:12 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by MartinWisse at 3:12 PM on July 1, 2014
Yep. That's it. Unless the USA can find some hidden reserve of energy & resolve.
posted by kariebookish at 3:12 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by kariebookish at 3:12 PM on July 1, 2014
farts.
posted by benito.strauss at 3:13 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by benito.strauss at 3:13 PM on July 1, 2014
We've still got at least fifteen more minutes of this, boys. Buckle down.
posted by ardgedee at 3:13 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
posted by ardgedee at 3:13 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
Howard's been very impressive indeed.
posted by running order squabble fest at 3:14 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by running order squabble fest at 3:14 PM on July 1, 2014
J t'aime mama.
posted by MartinWisse at 3:14 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
posted by MartinWisse at 3:14 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
They've got 15 more minutes to play, and they must be exhausted.
posted by benito.strauss at 3:14 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by benito.strauss at 3:14 PM on July 1, 2014
fifteen minutes of fresh hell
posted by languagehat at 3:15 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
posted by languagehat at 3:15 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
Oh come on, America. You joined WW2 pretty late and won that. Surely you can nick a couple of late goals here.
posted by the quidnunc kid at 3:16 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
posted by the quidnunc kid at 3:16 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
> I don't see the USA making two goals, ardgedee.
We can try to not give up two more, anyway.
posted by ardgedee at 3:17 PM on July 1, 2014
We can try to not give up two more, anyway.
posted by ardgedee at 3:17 PM on July 1, 2014
ONE!!!!
posted by the quidnunc kid at 3:17 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
posted by the quidnunc kid at 3:17 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
But be proud: the US, with the limited talents it has, has played incredibly well to get so far.
posted by MartinWisse at 3:17 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by MartinWisse at 3:17 PM on July 1, 2014
GOAL USA
posted by kariebookish at 3:17 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by kariebookish at 3:17 PM on July 1, 2014
omg
posted by elizardbits at 3:17 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by elizardbits at 3:17 PM on July 1, 2014
Goaaaaaaaallllllllll!
posted by From Bklyn at 3:17 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by From Bklyn at 3:17 PM on July 1, 2014
Okay, that was pretty cool.
posted by evidenceofabsence at 3:17 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by evidenceofabsence at 3:17 PM on July 1, 2014
Comment that goals started after Origi left...
Otoh, US has entered the records with most saves in one game by a goalkeeper
posted by infini at 3:17 PM on July 1, 2014
Otoh, US has entered the records with most saves in one game by a goalkeeper
posted by infini at 3:17 PM on July 1, 2014
COME ON!!!
posted by the quidnunc kid at 3:17 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by the quidnunc kid at 3:17 PM on July 1, 2014
That's a great goal.
posted by kariebookish at 3:17 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by kariebookish at 3:17 PM on July 1, 2014
Drone strike. Brussels. Now.
posted by Wordshore at 3:18 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
posted by Wordshore at 3:18 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
ok i won't leap out the window just yet
posted by languagehat at 3:18 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by languagehat at 3:18 PM on July 1, 2014
FUUUUUUUUUUUUU
posted by MartinWisse at 3:18 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by MartinWisse at 3:18 PM on July 1, 2014
OOOOOH! SO CLOSE! sorry i had caps lock on.
posted by the quidnunc kid at 3:19 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by the quidnunc kid at 3:19 PM on July 1, 2014
If they can score twice in 15 minutes, maybe we can do the same!
posted by Arbac at 3:19 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by Arbac at 3:19 PM on July 1, 2014
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
...
meh
where are mah heart pill
posted by winna at 3:20 PM on July 1, 2014 [2 favorites]
...
meh
where are mah heart pill
posted by winna at 3:20 PM on July 1, 2014 [2 favorites]
Does Belgium still not have a government?
posted by kariebookish at 3:20 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
posted by kariebookish at 3:20 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
Wait, has my feed slipped to a Hollywood feelgood blockbuster?
posted by benito.strauss at 3:20 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
posted by benito.strauss at 3:20 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
i can't take much more of this
posted by languagehat at 3:21 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by languagehat at 3:21 PM on July 1, 2014
I stopped watching, and then we score.
I start watching again, and we almost give up another one.
So I'm not watching.
posted by eriko at 3:22 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
I start watching again, and we almost give up another one.
So I'm not watching.
posted by eriko at 3:22 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
i'm coming elizabeth
posted by languagehat at 3:22 PM on July 1, 2014 [4 favorites]
posted by languagehat at 3:22 PM on July 1, 2014 [4 favorites]
Come on!!! Free kick dead centre!
posted by the quidnunc kid at 3:23 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by the quidnunc kid at 3:23 PM on July 1, 2014
Gosh. That free kick .... wow.
posted by the quidnunc kid at 3:24 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by the quidnunc kid at 3:24 PM on July 1, 2014
AAAHHHHHHHHH
posted by robocop is bleeding at 3:24 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by robocop is bleeding at 3:24 PM on July 1, 2014
My God guys this game.
posted by running order squabble fest at 3:25 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by running order squabble fest at 3:25 PM on July 1, 2014
Ai ai ai ya ya ya belgie
posted by MartinWisse at 3:25 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by MartinWisse at 3:25 PM on July 1, 2014
this is insane. i don't have any capitals anymore.
posted by kariebookish at 3:25 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by kariebookish at 3:25 PM on July 1, 2014
That free kick was almost the Karate Kid "crane" move of World Cup football.
posted by the quidnunc kid at 3:25 PM on July 1, 2014 [3 favorites]
posted by the quidnunc kid at 3:25 PM on July 1, 2014 [3 favorites]
i'm dead guys
but they seem to be showing this game in the afterlife
i can't get away
posted by languagehat at 3:26 PM on July 1, 2014 [5 favorites]
but they seem to be showing this game in the afterlife
i can't get away
posted by languagehat at 3:26 PM on July 1, 2014 [5 favorites]
OH FOR GOD'S SAKE
posted by the quidnunc kid at 3:27 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by the quidnunc kid at 3:27 PM on July 1, 2014
The fat is by everybody off the soup -- love the Belgian commentator.
posted by MartinWisse at 3:27 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by MartinWisse at 3:27 PM on July 1, 2014
oh god another beautiful attack comes to nothing
posted by languagehat at 3:27 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by languagehat at 3:27 PM on July 1, 2014
ONE added minute?
posted by ardgedee at 3:31 PM on July 1, 2014 [2 favorites]
posted by ardgedee at 3:31 PM on July 1, 2014 [2 favorites]
Everybody gets trophies, right?
posted by evidenceofabsence at 3:32 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by evidenceofabsence at 3:32 PM on July 1, 2014
Good game.
posted by MartinWisse at 3:33 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by MartinWisse at 3:33 PM on July 1, 2014
Very honorable defeat there, at least. And really a great advert for soccer in the US. Anyone who claims soccer is boring, and continues to do so after that game, is an idiot.
posted by running order squabble fest at 3:33 PM on July 1, 2014 [5 favorites]
posted by running order squabble fest at 3:33 PM on July 1, 2014 [5 favorites]
At least I have the satisfaction of looking forward to Belgium getting a proper shellacking from Argentina this weekend.
posted by ardgedee at 3:33 PM on July 1, 2014 [2 favorites]
posted by ardgedee at 3:33 PM on July 1, 2014 [2 favorites]
omg i am excite for belgium v holland
posted by elizardbits at 3:33 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
posted by elizardbits at 3:33 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
Oh well. You'll be back in four years USA, even better than you were today. Congratulations to Belgium, and well played both teams.
posted by the quidnunc kid at 3:33 PM on July 1, 2014 [2 favorites]
posted by the quidnunc kid at 3:33 PM on July 1, 2014 [2 favorites]
Well, at least it was a good game. It would have been embarrassing if it'd been like that 99% snoozefest earlier today.
posted by winna at 3:33 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by winna at 3:33 PM on July 1, 2014
And the US has nothing to be ashamed off.
posted by MartinWisse at 3:33 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
posted by MartinWisse at 3:33 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
Really liked Belgium's play although I'm disappointed in the result. I'll root for them as far as they go, but the ref that only gave 1 minute of stoppage time? Bite me.
posted by ursus_comiter at 3:34 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
posted by ursus_comiter at 3:34 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
except spray cheese
posted by elizardbits at 3:34 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
posted by elizardbits at 3:34 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
Tim Howard should be on Mount Rushmore.
posted by Area Man at 3:34 PM on July 1, 2014 [6 favorites]
posted by Area Man at 3:34 PM on July 1, 2014 [6 favorites]
(Also, if I was Argentina I'd be worried...)
posted by running order squabble fest at 3:35 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by running order squabble fest at 3:35 PM on July 1, 2014
yeah, not sure how there was only one extra minute there
posted by strange chain at 3:35 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by strange chain at 3:35 PM on July 1, 2014
One of the best matches of the World Cup, hands down.
posted by kariebookish at 3:35 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by kariebookish at 3:35 PM on July 1, 2014
> It would have been embarrassing if it'd been like that 99% snoozefest earlier today.
Seconded. Belgium earned both those goals. There was no dirty play, diving or other bullshit. Great game!
posted by ardgedee at 3:35 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
Seconded. Belgium earned both those goals. There was no dirty play, diving or other bullshit. Great game!
posted by ardgedee at 3:35 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
Good game all around. Great effort by the US, deserved win for Belgium. The trend continues!
posted by travelwithcats at 3:36 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by travelwithcats at 3:36 PM on July 1, 2014
I just won my argument with my brother, who last week suggested that they bring back the Golden Goal.
posted by Dr. Zira at 3:36 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by Dr. Zira at 3:36 PM on July 1, 2014
The big chance was that incredible set piece off the dead-center free kick right at the end of regulation. If that goes in, and it probably should have, the Belgians never get the chance at extra time.
Obviously the Belgians outplayed the US for like 100 of those 120 minutes so the "better" team ended up winning but the US sure had a very, very good chance of ending it before extra time on that one play.
posted by Justinian at 3:37 PM on July 1, 2014 [2 favorites]
Obviously the Belgians outplayed the US for like 100 of those 120 minutes so the "better" team ended up winning but the US sure had a very, very good chance of ending it before extra time on that one play.
posted by Justinian at 3:37 PM on July 1, 2014 [2 favorites]
Now that the massive derail is over... who'd like to discuss Belgian imperial history with me?
posted by infini at 3:39 PM on July 1, 2014 [4 favorites]
posted by infini at 3:39 PM on July 1, 2014 [4 favorites]
Like with Germany-Algeria, the underdogs are making the better sides work for their wins. Really good stuff.
posted by Thing at 3:39 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by Thing at 3:39 PM on July 1, 2014
german matt damon's hair is looking even more like a diabolical meringue this afternoon
posted by elizardbits at 3:40 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
posted by elizardbits at 3:40 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
I did try! Ish.
posted by kariebookish at 3:40 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
posted by kariebookish at 3:40 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
ESPN streaming shuts down with "Your Event Has Ended" on the screen. Really drives home the finality.
posted by benito.strauss at 3:42 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by benito.strauss at 3:42 PM on July 1, 2014
(international soccer newbie disclaimer)
What does the US do to get better for 2018? Is it a matter of siphoning off enough talent that would otherwise play football/basketball/baseball and letting them work their way up the ranks, or is there continued development with the current group?
posted by strange chain at 3:43 PM on July 1, 2014
What does the US do to get better for 2018? Is it a matter of siphoning off enough talent that would otherwise play football/basketball/baseball and letting them work their way up the ranks, or is there continued development with the current group?
posted by strange chain at 3:43 PM on July 1, 2014
No footie for two days...might as well clean the basement or something. Poop.
Did people really think the US was going to pull this out? It was a lovely dream (for the US), but get real.
posted by syncope at 3:44 PM on July 1, 2014
Did people really think the US was going to pull this out? It was a lovely dream (for the US), but get real.
posted by syncope at 3:44 PM on July 1, 2014
you should write vampire luis suarez fic
posted by elizardbits at 3:46 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by elizardbits at 3:46 PM on July 1, 2014
What with the game and my cold I have to go lie down now.
posted by needled at 3:46 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by needled at 3:46 PM on July 1, 2014
I didn't think the U.S. would even get out of the Group stage, so we got past "get real" in my book.
posted by benito.strauss at 3:49 PM on July 1, 2014 [3 favorites]
posted by benito.strauss at 3:49 PM on July 1, 2014 [3 favorites]
elizardbits: "german matt damon's hair is looking even more like a diabolical meringue this afternoon"
I believe we are CONDITION RED FOR HEAT MISER
posted by Dr. Zira at 3:49 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
I believe we are CONDITION RED FOR HEAT MISER
posted by Dr. Zira at 3:49 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
Also, God bless Lando, but TV charisma is not his calling.
posted by Dr. Zira at 3:50 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by Dr. Zira at 3:50 PM on July 1, 2014
oh thank god, now I can pack for the house moving tomorrow...
posted by infini at 3:50 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by infini at 3:50 PM on July 1, 2014
@Strange Chain:
That's a complex question. The US already has a massive feeder program (the millions of kids who play soccer in the country, male and female). What we don't have is the same kind of intensive junior programs they have in other countries where you play for years as a youth in a system where you're intensively coached not just in sport but also nutrition and discipline and so on (are you familiar with the Canadian Juniors for hockey?).
Personally, I don't think this system can work in the US, so we have to make our own path. Right now our system isn't working as well as it could. Recruitment works short term, but when contracts end...bap, the players do as they please (aka go to Europe). This happens in Latin America as well, but that's another story.
posted by syncope at 3:51 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
That's a complex question. The US already has a massive feeder program (the millions of kids who play soccer in the country, male and female). What we don't have is the same kind of intensive junior programs they have in other countries where you play for years as a youth in a system where you're intensively coached not just in sport but also nutrition and discipline and so on (are you familiar with the Canadian Juniors for hockey?).
Personally, I don't think this system can work in the US, so we have to make our own path. Right now our system isn't working as well as it could. Recruitment works short term, but when contracts end...bap, the players do as they please (aka go to Europe). This happens in Latin America as well, but that's another story.
posted by syncope at 3:51 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
Now that the massive derail is over... who'd like to discuss Belgian imperial history with me?
Leopold II was responsible for millions of deaths and his 'philanthropy' in Congo is mostly unknown. Now guess which national team did Lukaku's dad play for...
posted by ersatz at 3:53 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
Leopold II was responsible for millions of deaths and his 'philanthropy' in Congo is mostly unknown. Now guess which national team did Lukaku's dad play for...
posted by ersatz at 3:53 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
We still get better every time. We were better in 2014 than we were in 2010, and we were better in 2010 than in 2006.
posted by winna at 3:54 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by winna at 3:54 PM on July 1, 2014
Oh good god, when is the FRA vs GER? (need to be unpacked by then, new housemates are Frenchmen)
posted by infini at 3:56 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by infini at 3:56 PM on July 1, 2014
July 4th!
posted by winna at 4:00 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
posted by winna at 4:00 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
For a brief and shining moment there I was leading the Mefi Cup (even after frakkin' Hummels got the flu).
First the Mefi Cup, then USA goes out of the World Cup. What a day of disappointments.
posted by 26.2 at 4:00 PM on July 1, 2014
First the Mefi Cup, then USA goes out of the World Cup. What a day of disappointments.
posted by 26.2 at 4:00 PM on July 1, 2014
Quick, where do we meet in two days?
posted by travelwithcats at 4:01 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by travelwithcats at 4:01 PM on July 1, 2014
Leopold II was responsible for millions of deaths and his 'philanthropy' in Congo is mostly unknown. Now guess which national team did Lukaku's dad play for...
Flagged for 'derail'.
posted by Wordshore at 4:02 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
Flagged for 'derail'.
posted by Wordshore at 4:02 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
Pretty pumped for the do-over game, does anybody know when that one starts?
posted by (Arsenio) Hall and (Warren) Oates at 4:04 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by (Arsenio) Hall and (Warren) Oates at 4:04 PM on July 1, 2014
Ah, well. My adopted country are out, and the World Cup loses the hope and optimism and returns to the repetitive cheating, play-acting and biting of South America and Europe. I'm out. Anyway, there's a lot of good cricket - now there's a true sport - happening at the moment, with a test series between England and India shortly.
It's been fun. And a box of cans of Easy Cheese to elizardbits.
#USA! #USA! #USA!
posted by Wordshore at 4:06 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
It's been fun. And a box of cans of Easy Cheese to elizardbits.
#USA! #USA! #USA!
posted by Wordshore at 4:06 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
What does the US do to get better for 2018? Is it a matter of siphoning off enough talent that would otherwise play football/basketball/baseball and letting them work their way up the ranks, or is there continued development with the current group?
Pretty much what they've been doing. DeAndre Yedlin is, if I recall correctly, the first fully homegrown player to make a USMNT appearance while playing in MLS without having played elsewhere; if he's not the first, he's certainly one of a very few. Julian Green obviously has shown tremendous potential in just a few minutes of play. There are a number of exciting youngsters coming through the ranks: Diego Fagundez at New England Revolution springs to mind, although he could declare for either the US or Uruguay; Jack McInerney at Philadelphia Union is having a breakout season.
Where we really struggle is in midfield, with ball retention and chance creation. Obviously the US can defend like no one's business, and there are decent finishers in the team, but we just give the ball away too much. I think that's the next big challenge, to develop complete midfielders who can effect transitions and make key passes. Only having one of a player like Michael Bradley, who has never been world-class to begin with, puts far too much pressure on the defense at this level when that one player doesn't perform. This was his best game, but Belgium still easily overran the American midfield. So I think that's the next big step.
posted by Errant at 4:06 PM on July 1, 2014 [3 favorites]
Pretty much what they've been doing. DeAndre Yedlin is, if I recall correctly, the first fully homegrown player to make a USMNT appearance while playing in MLS without having played elsewhere; if he's not the first, he's certainly one of a very few. Julian Green obviously has shown tremendous potential in just a few minutes of play. There are a number of exciting youngsters coming through the ranks: Diego Fagundez at New England Revolution springs to mind, although he could declare for either the US or Uruguay; Jack McInerney at Philadelphia Union is having a breakout season.
Where we really struggle is in midfield, with ball retention and chance creation. Obviously the US can defend like no one's business, and there are decent finishers in the team, but we just give the ball away too much. I think that's the next big challenge, to develop complete midfielders who can effect transitions and make key passes. Only having one of a player like Michael Bradley, who has never been world-class to begin with, puts far too much pressure on the defense at this level when that one player doesn't perform. This was his best game, but Belgium still easily overran the American midfield. So I think that's the next big step.
posted by Errant at 4:06 PM on July 1, 2014 [3 favorites]
What does the US do to get better for 2018? Is it a matter of siphoning off enough talent that would otherwise play football/basketball/baseball and letting them work their way up the ranks, or is there continued development with the current group?
Belgium is a nation of 11 million people and they just took us to the cleaners. But they have a beautiful system set up to cultivate great football talent.
"In practice, G-A-G means standardization. All over Belgium these days, boys and girls grow up playing soccer the same way. Every school, youth academy, and village team plays the same formation — 4-3-3, with classic, dribbling wingers — and follows the same progression up to the 11-on-a-side game. Kids under the age of 7 play 2-on-2; under-9s play 5-on-5; under-11s play 8-on-8. They never use more than half the field. It is only when they’re 12 years old that boys and girls are finally introduced to a full-size pitch and the idea of a long pass."
posted by (Arsenio) Hall and (Warren) Oates at 4:08 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
Belgium is a nation of 11 million people and they just took us to the cleaners. But they have a beautiful system set up to cultivate great football talent.
"In practice, G-A-G means standardization. All over Belgium these days, boys and girls grow up playing soccer the same way. Every school, youth academy, and village team plays the same formation — 4-3-3, with classic, dribbling wingers — and follows the same progression up to the 11-on-a-side game. Kids under the age of 7 play 2-on-2; under-9s play 5-on-5; under-11s play 8-on-8. They never use more than half the field. It is only when they’re 12 years old that boys and girls are finally introduced to a full-size pitch and the idea of a long pass."
posted by (Arsenio) Hall and (Warren) Oates at 4:08 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
Tim Howard should be on Mount Rushmore.
a real picture i just took
posted by (Arsenio) Hall and (Warren) Oates at 4:26 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
a real picture i just took
posted by (Arsenio) Hall and (Warren) Oates at 4:26 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
pulling for Costa Rica and Argentinian, even though only one of those will likely advance out of next round.
The US is a mid level team. Not horrible, entertaining to watch, but certainly not tier one. And, hate to say it, but I don't think we're making that jump any time soon. I think a lot of soccer appeal around the world cup is sort of the same as what happens during the Olympics. Really really fun, but :/ not sustainable in regular league play. I'm not really a spectator sports (rugby and hockey plz) person but I like the World cup, but watching a season game sounds very uninteresting to me.
posted by edgeways at 4:31 PM on July 1, 2014
The US is a mid level team. Not horrible, entertaining to watch, but certainly not tier one. And, hate to say it, but I don't think we're making that jump any time soon. I think a lot of soccer appeal around the world cup is sort of the same as what happens during the Olympics. Really really fun, but :/ not sustainable in regular league play. I'm not really a spectator sports (rugby and hockey plz) person but I like the World cup, but watching a season game sounds very uninteresting to me.
posted by edgeways at 4:31 PM on July 1, 2014
Well, onto the quarter finals. I'll be on the road so I may not be in the thread on the 4th or 5th.
posted by eriko at 4:34 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by eriko at 4:34 PM on July 1, 2014
"In practice, G-A-G means standardization. All over Belgium these days, boys and girls grow up playing soccer the same way. Every school, youth academy, and village team plays the same formation — 4-3-3, with classic, dribbling wingers — and follows the same progression up to the 11-on-a-side game. Kids under the age of 7 play 2-on-2; under-9s play 5-on-5; under-11s play 8-on-8. They never use more than half the field. It is only when they’re 12 years old that boys and girls are finally introduced to a full-size pitch and the idea of a long pass."
That sounds like something that can't be repeated in the U.S. Uniformity of that sort is not our strength.
posted by Area Man at 4:41 PM on July 1, 2014
That sounds like something that can't be repeated in the U.S. Uniformity of that sort is not our strength.
posted by Area Man at 4:41 PM on July 1, 2014
*cracks Westmalle Tripel*
posted by TheWhiteSkull at 5:17 PM on July 1, 2014
posted by TheWhiteSkull at 5:17 PM on July 1, 2014
but watching a season game sounds very uninteresting to me.
I felt this way before I started supporting Stoke City. I can't describe what happened, but I just cared about every game. A lot. A lot a lot.
posted by josher71 at 5:19 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
I felt this way before I started supporting Stoke City. I can't describe what happened, but I just cared about every game. A lot. A lot a lot.
posted by josher71 at 5:19 PM on July 1, 2014 [1 favorite]
Not sure how this is possible, but watching the rebroadcast of the game on ESPN right now is more heartbreaking than watching in real-time.
posted by wensink at 5:45 PM on July 1, 2014 [2 favorites]
posted by wensink at 5:45 PM on July 1, 2014 [2 favorites]
And, hate to say it, but I don't think we're making that jump any time soon.
I think it'll be sooner than you think. Our first truly homegrown player -- never ever played overseas -- played this cup, and DeAndre Yedlin made a huge impact. I have a funny feeling his time with the Sounders is over as the Euro Leagues watched him play.
And you know what? A whole bunch of kids watched Tim Howard and Julian Green today -- and they want to be like them.
And next year? It's the Women's Turn. Abby's Last Stand.
I BELIEVE THAT WE CAN WIN.
I BELIEVE THAT WE CAN WIN.
I BELIEVE THAT WE CAN WIN.
posted by eriko at 5:48 PM on July 1, 2014 [3 favorites]
I think it'll be sooner than you think. Our first truly homegrown player -- never ever played overseas -- played this cup, and DeAndre Yedlin made a huge impact. I have a funny feeling his time with the Sounders is over as the Euro Leagues watched him play.
And you know what? A whole bunch of kids watched Tim Howard and Julian Green today -- and they want to be like them.
And next year? It's the Women's Turn. Abby's Last Stand.
I BELIEVE THAT WE CAN WIN.
I BELIEVE THAT WE CAN WIN.
I BELIEVE THAT WE CAN WIN.
posted by eriko at 5:48 PM on July 1, 2014 [3 favorites]
In the commentary here (Germany) they were saying how the American team only trains four days a week, as opposed to the Belgian team.
If you look at the basic ball-handling skills of many of the other players, and especially the 'star' players, there's a lot to be worked on. Added to the number of dropped passes (another point the German announcer commented on) and there are some fundamentals that need to be improved. (The player who should be the exemplar is DeMarcus Beasley).
If the Yanks had played the first half like they played the extra-time, then we/they might have gotten somewhere.
This game hung on Tim the goalie, Jones, Beasley, Yedlin; with appearances by some of the other players. Cameron was, I suspect, secretly playing for Belgium. Or to a 6-foot tall invisible rabbit.
With all that said, Klinsmann is a great coach and hopefully USA has started to recognize how football/soccer can be fantastic.
posted by From Bklyn at 11:18 PM on July 1, 2014
If you look at the basic ball-handling skills of many of the other players, and especially the 'star' players, there's a lot to be worked on. Added to the number of dropped passes (another point the German announcer commented on) and there are some fundamentals that need to be improved. (The player who should be the exemplar is DeMarcus Beasley).
If the Yanks had played the first half like they played the extra-time, then we/they might have gotten somewhere.
This game hung on Tim the goalie, Jones, Beasley, Yedlin; with appearances by some of the other players. Cameron was, I suspect, secretly playing for Belgium. Or to a 6-foot tall invisible rabbit.
With all that said, Klinsmann is a great coach and hopefully USA has started to recognize how football/soccer can be fantastic.
posted by From Bklyn at 11:18 PM on July 1, 2014
Ah Man, stupid lousy getting up early for work meant I fell asleep on the sofa, and woke up as the MOTD music played at the end of the program, so I missed all the drama.
I notice he bought on Lukaku though, and he scored the winner! Well played to both teams - the first 90 mins was just about the best game so far, it really was end to end, and when Belgium stepped it up a gear in the second half, it was amazing to watch, and you just felt the USA were hanging on and could only win it by nicking one - and then suddenly Wondo was clear and it was heart in mouth time - but he skied it.
It really was one of those games where the best team won, but the losing team go out with their heads held high and their dignity and integrity at max - they gave it their all and it was a clean game, there was no dirty stuff really.
Via BBC:
Belgium defender Jan Vertonghen tweets: "Hard work pays off!! Credit to the USA as well for this amazing game!"
Belgium captain Vincent Kompany tweeted after the match: "Two words.. TIM HOWARD #Respect #BelUSA"
Midfielder Michael Bradley: "I know this is an experience I'll look back on when I finish playing and smile," he said. "Right now, the disappointment of not getting to a quarter-final is big."
Former Fulham forward Clint Dempsey: "There is a stat about the average age watching the World Cup being 38. That shows that people who have played the game, have grown with the game, are passing it down to their kids. That is going to help us, it is great to see that the game is on the rise."
Midfielder Jermaine Jones: "We've showed the world that the USA is growing, and everybody who plays against us from now on in, knows we're for real."
Respect to both teams, their coaching staff and managers for that.
So where we doing the quarter finals, and who is still up for this? Did anyone contact team mod regarding this?
QF Line Up:
France v Germany (Friday 4 July, 17:00 BST)
Brazil v Colombia (Friday 4 July, 21:00 BST)
Argentina v Belgium (Saturday 5 July, 17:00 BST)
Netherlands v Costa Rica (Saturday 5 July, 21:00 BST)
They all look like good games, Belgium clearly have a chance against Argentina. Netherlands should beat Costa Rica. France will hopefully beat Germany, but Colombia Brazil is practically uncallable!
posted by marienbad at 2:41 AM on July 2, 2014 [1 favorite]
I notice he bought on Lukaku though, and he scored the winner! Well played to both teams - the first 90 mins was just about the best game so far, it really was end to end, and when Belgium stepped it up a gear in the second half, it was amazing to watch, and you just felt the USA were hanging on and could only win it by nicking one - and then suddenly Wondo was clear and it was heart in mouth time - but he skied it.
It really was one of those games where the best team won, but the losing team go out with their heads held high and their dignity and integrity at max - they gave it their all and it was a clean game, there was no dirty stuff really.
Via BBC:
Belgium defender Jan Vertonghen tweets: "Hard work pays off!! Credit to the USA as well for this amazing game!"
Belgium captain Vincent Kompany tweeted after the match: "Two words.. TIM HOWARD #Respect #BelUSA"
Midfielder Michael Bradley: "I know this is an experience I'll look back on when I finish playing and smile," he said. "Right now, the disappointment of not getting to a quarter-final is big."
Former Fulham forward Clint Dempsey: "There is a stat about the average age watching the World Cup being 38. That shows that people who have played the game, have grown with the game, are passing it down to their kids. That is going to help us, it is great to see that the game is on the rise."
Midfielder Jermaine Jones: "We've showed the world that the USA is growing, and everybody who plays against us from now on in, knows we're for real."
Respect to both teams, their coaching staff and managers for that.
So where we doing the quarter finals, and who is still up for this? Did anyone contact team mod regarding this?
QF Line Up:
France v Germany (Friday 4 July, 17:00 BST)
Brazil v Colombia (Friday 4 July, 21:00 BST)
Argentina v Belgium (Saturday 5 July, 17:00 BST)
Netherlands v Costa Rica (Saturday 5 July, 21:00 BST)
They all look like good games, Belgium clearly have a chance against Argentina. Netherlands should beat Costa Rica. France will hopefully beat Germany, but Colombia Brazil is practically uncallable!
posted by marienbad at 2:41 AM on July 2, 2014 [1 favorite]
Am I misreading or is this a bizarre synopsis by the NYT on their main page:
The United States was eliminated from the World Cup by Belgium despite a memorable performance from goalkeeper Tim Howard.
The goalie is a defensive role, whereas a soccer game is won by scoring more goals than the other team. Howard's performance kept the margin of defeat low, but couldn't have affected the number of goals the US scored.
posted by Gyan at 3:11 AM on July 2, 2014
The United States was eliminated from the World Cup by Belgium despite a memorable performance from goalkeeper Tim Howard.
The goalie is a defensive role, whereas a soccer game is won by scoring more goals than the other team. Howard's performance kept the margin of defeat low, but couldn't have affected the number of goals the US scored.
posted by Gyan at 3:11 AM on July 2, 2014
The Times is not really America's go-to paper for sports news. It's not even New Yorkers' go-to paper for sports. I'm not sure which paper would be these days because the Internet has made everything all topsy-turvy. It looks like the New York Daily News' homepage at the moment is running headline about Howard that seems to have been written by an editor that's heard of soccer.
posted by ardgedee at 4:39 AM on July 2, 2014
posted by ardgedee at 4:39 AM on July 2, 2014
Shot map of Belgium's 39 attempts on goal yesterday. Insane.
posted by ardgedee at 4:44 AM on July 2, 2014
posted by ardgedee at 4:44 AM on July 2, 2014
I don't see the problem, TBH. The aim of a soccer team is not simply to score x goals, but to score one or more goals at one end than they let in at the other, and Tim Howard played a memorable part in the team's attempt to do that. However, the team overall was not able to achieve that aim, and was therefore eliminated.
posted by running order squabble fest at 5:03 AM on July 2, 2014 [1 favorite]
posted by running order squabble fest at 5:03 AM on July 2, 2014 [1 favorite]
(That is, I don't see the problem with the NYT's synopsis. Obviously, the problem with the US being eliminated is that the US was eliminated.)
posted by running order squabble fest at 5:06 AM on July 2, 2014
posted by running order squabble fest at 5:06 AM on July 2, 2014
To be fair, not all of those shots were aimed right. More than a dozen had a chance of hitting the box though. Thanks to Howard the end result was not BEL 15-0 USA. That would have been painful. Apparently Howard's good work set a new World Cup record, says the DailyMail.
posted by travelwithcats at 5:11 AM on July 2, 2014
posted by travelwithcats at 5:11 AM on July 2, 2014
“Someone changed Wikipedia entry for U.S. Secretary of Defense to 'Tim Howard'”, Nate Scott, USA Today For the Win Blog, 01 July 2014
WE PETITION THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION TO: Change the name of Washington National Airport (DCA) to "Tim Howard National Airport"
posted by ob1quixote at 5:20 AM on July 2, 2014
WE PETITION THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION TO: Change the name of Washington National Airport (DCA) to "Tim Howard National Airport"
posted by ob1quixote at 5:20 AM on July 2, 2014
Gyan - without that memorable performance the score would have been 8 - 0 to Belgium , and the game would have effectively been over after about half an hour. Look how many shots he stopped last night! Its not his fault that Belgium have class all through the team, Courtois, Kompany, Hazard, Lukaku, Origi etc, and on paper, should have beaten the USA easily by about 4 - 0.
So it is perfectly accurate - this is football - you can describe a player on a losing team as playing memorably or magnificently.
posted by marienbad at 5:24 AM on July 2, 2014 [1 favorite]
So it is perfectly accurate - this is football - you can describe a player on a losing team as playing memorably or magnificently.
posted by marienbad at 5:24 AM on July 2, 2014 [1 favorite]
Oh, I am working on a new FPP. I'll try to give it a broader scope and not make it so World Cup centric. But in reality, it's supposed to be our new space for the quarter finals. MuahaHAHA! Well, I'll run it by the mods, of course.
posted by travelwithcats at 5:28 AM on July 2, 2014
posted by travelwithcats at 5:28 AM on July 2, 2014
re: Lukaku in particular - this is a diversion from the World Cup, but isn't it weird that Chelsea can loan out a player like that to Everton, who are theoretically their rivals in the English Premier League? It's like "here - have this amazing player, now go and take points off our real competition"...
posted by running order squabble fest at 5:44 AM on July 2, 2014 [1 favorite]
posted by running order squabble fest at 5:44 AM on July 2, 2014 [1 favorite]
marienbad: you can describe a player on a losing team as playing memorably or magnificently.
Of course you can, and I didn't dispute that. The NYT said US eliminated despite Howard's great performance. It is not in a goalie's power to win the game except by stopping equalizer goals. Which wasn't the case here.
posted by Gyan at 5:47 AM on July 2, 2014
Of course you can, and I didn't dispute that. The NYT said US eliminated despite Howard's great performance. It is not in a goalie's power to win the game except by stopping equalizer goals. Which wasn't the case here.
posted by Gyan at 5:47 AM on July 2, 2014
I genuinely don't understand the problem.
Tim Howard gave a great performance. His great performance involved stopping balls from going into the US goal on a large number of occasions. That is definitionally a good performance by a goalie.
Despite that great performance, the US as a team was unable to fulfil the necessary conditions to advance into the quarter finals, because the performance of other members of the team, whose performance is judged by other standards, was not good enough to result in the US having scored more goals than Belgium. Therefore, the US was eliminated despite a great performance by Tim Howard.
If the NYT had said "Tim Howard's failure to score two goals, despite a good performance in other areas, sent the US out of the World Cup", that would be a bad synopsis.
posted by running order squabble fest at 6:09 AM on July 2, 2014
Tim Howard gave a great performance. His great performance involved stopping balls from going into the US goal on a large number of occasions. That is definitionally a good performance by a goalie.
Despite that great performance, the US as a team was unable to fulfil the necessary conditions to advance into the quarter finals, because the performance of other members of the team, whose performance is judged by other standards, was not good enough to result in the US having scored more goals than Belgium. Therefore, the US was eliminated despite a great performance by Tim Howard.
If the NYT had said "Tim Howard's failure to score two goals, despite a good performance in other areas, sent the US out of the World Cup", that would be a bad synopsis.
posted by running order squabble fest at 6:09 AM on July 2, 2014
Cameron was, I suspect, secretly playing for Belgium. Or to a 6-foot tall invisible rabbit.
I feel that this game and the reactions to it show the subjectivity of the watching experience. I didn't think Cameron did so bad other than one not fabulous clearance and an early yellow.
A quote about the statistics: "Cameron attempted 81 passes with a completion rate of 81% only Bradley of the USA bettered this.Cameron recovered possession 8 times, blocked 4 shots, made 6 tackles, took on an opponent 4 times completing it on all occasions. Of his 81 passes, 27 were passes in the attacking 1/3rd only bettered by 4 players on the pitch."
So, did he play badly or not? Twitter was divided, by the way.
posted by josher71 at 6:14 AM on July 2, 2014
I feel that this game and the reactions to it show the subjectivity of the watching experience. I didn't think Cameron did so bad other than one not fabulous clearance and an early yellow.
A quote about the statistics: "Cameron attempted 81 passes with a completion rate of 81% only Bradley of the USA bettered this.Cameron recovered possession 8 times, blocked 4 shots, made 6 tackles, took on an opponent 4 times completing it on all occasions. Of his 81 passes, 27 were passes in the attacking 1/3rd only bettered by 4 players on the pitch."
So, did he play badly or not? Twitter was divided, by the way.
posted by josher71 at 6:14 AM on July 2, 2014
He had a dodgy start but grew into the game, and was good for most of the match, despite, in the 2nd half, almost relentless Belgian pressure.
posted by marienbad at 6:18 AM on July 2, 2014 [1 favorite]
posted by marienbad at 6:18 AM on July 2, 2014 [1 favorite]
This is more of a linguistic problem, I think. The wording "despite [...] performance" implies a certain degree of proactivity, but a goalie, by definition, is reactive.
posted by travelwithcats at 6:18 AM on July 2, 2014
posted by travelwithcats at 6:18 AM on July 2, 2014
> WE PETITION THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION TO: Change the name of Washington National Airport (DCA) to "Tim Howard National Airport"
I approve, except that National was already renamed to Ronald Reagan Airport during a fit of naming things after the guy some time in the nineties. Mind, I'd rather have it named after Howard than Reagan, but I'd be even happier if it reverted to National and one of the other DC airports went through a bout of name changes like a teenager trying on identities to see what feels comfortable.
posted by ardgedee at 6:23 AM on July 2, 2014
I approve, except that National was already renamed to Ronald Reagan Airport during a fit of naming things after the guy some time in the nineties. Mind, I'd rather have it named after Howard than Reagan, but I'd be even happier if it reverted to National and one of the other DC airports went through a bout of name changes like a teenager trying on identities to see what feels comfortable.
posted by ardgedee at 6:23 AM on July 2, 2014
running order squabble fest: I think the use of despite implies a failure of offsetting ability and shouldn't be used when that ability is irrelevant or secondary.
posted by Gyan at 6:25 AM on July 2, 2014 [1 favorite]
posted by Gyan at 6:25 AM on July 2, 2014 [1 favorite]
The wording "despite [...] performance" implies a certain degree of proactivity, but a goalie, by definition, is reactive.
That's not true, though. I mean, all football players are reactive in the sense that they respond to external stimuli. Leo Messi cannot make other players pass to him, or control the accuracy with which they pass; all he can do is take action in response to the significant probability that they will, and his best guess as to where the ball will go, based on his understanding of his team's tactics.
A goalie responds to stimuli, and generally responds to most stimuli taking place in the other half of the pitch by staying on their line and keeping an eye on the ball. But they are clearly proactive players, in the sense that they make decisions about where to position themselves to intercept crosses, whether to come out or stay on their line when a forward is through and a defender is running back to cover, whether once the ball is claimed to throw it quickly to a full-back or boot it upfield hoping for a break.
Goalkeepers do not usually score goals, and do not generally play in the outfield - although there are exceptions to both of these rules. Pat Jennings scored from a goal kick in the 1967 charity shield, Alex Stepney scored two penalties for Manchester United in 1973 and Mexico's Jorge Campos was notorious for taking the ball upfield. There's also a tradition, seen in the Switzerland game, of goalkeepers coming up for corners and free kicks in the last moments of a crucial game, which occasionally results in goals scored by keepers.
However, their performance even when they do not score goals is still a part of the game of football they are in. So, for example, the official EUFA match report for the semi-final of the 1992 European Championship between Denmark and the Netherlands opens:
posted by running order squabble fest at 6:45 AM on July 2, 2014 [2 favorites]
That's not true, though. I mean, all football players are reactive in the sense that they respond to external stimuli. Leo Messi cannot make other players pass to him, or control the accuracy with which they pass; all he can do is take action in response to the significant probability that they will, and his best guess as to where the ball will go, based on his understanding of his team's tactics.
A goalie responds to stimuli, and generally responds to most stimuli taking place in the other half of the pitch by staying on their line and keeping an eye on the ball. But they are clearly proactive players, in the sense that they make decisions about where to position themselves to intercept crosses, whether to come out or stay on their line when a forward is through and a defender is running back to cover, whether once the ball is claimed to throw it quickly to a full-back or boot it upfield hoping for a break.
Goalkeepers do not usually score goals, and do not generally play in the outfield - although there are exceptions to both of these rules. Pat Jennings scored from a goal kick in the 1967 charity shield, Alex Stepney scored two penalties for Manchester United in 1973 and Mexico's Jorge Campos was notorious for taking the ball upfield. There's also a tradition, seen in the Switzerland game, of goalkeepers coming up for corners and free kicks in the last moments of a crucial game, which occasionally results in goals scored by keepers.
However, their performance even when they do not score goals is still a part of the game of football they are in. So, for example, the official EUFA match report for the semi-final of the 1992 European Championship between Denmark and the Netherlands opens:
Peter Schmeichel saved Marco van Basten's spot kick to send Denmark through to a final against Germany.Is this incorrect? I would say not - Schmeichel's penalty save was a key factor in the final scoreline. Howard's performance was also a key factor in the final scoreline. However, in spite of this performance, the US was eliminated at the end of the match.
posted by running order squabble fest at 6:45 AM on July 2, 2014 [2 favorites]
(Actually, thinking about it, that was a penalty shootout. But his extra time save against Bryan Roy resulted in the penalty shoot-out happening. So...)
posted by running order squabble fest at 6:48 AM on July 2, 2014
posted by running order squabble fest at 6:48 AM on July 2, 2014
I was reacting to Cameron's two bad passes, which in light USA's other difficulties, I was obviously giving outsized importance.
posted by From Bklyn at 6:55 AM on July 2, 2014 [1 favorite]
posted by From Bklyn at 6:55 AM on July 2, 2014 [1 favorite]
Goalkeepers do not usually score goals, and do not generally play in the outfield - although there are exceptions to both of these rules. Pat Jennings scored from a goal kick in the 1967 charity shield, Alex Stepney scored two penalties for Manchester United in 1973 and Mexico's Jorge Campos was notorious for taking the ball upfield. There's also a tradition, seen in the Switzerland game, of goalkeepers coming up for corners and free kicks in the last moments of a crucial game, which occasionally results in goals scored by keepers.
Probably worth mentioning Chilavert who irrc holds the record for most goals scored by a goalie in international competition.
posted by ersatz at 7:36 AM on July 2, 2014 [1 favorite]
Probably worth mentioning Chilavert who irrc holds the record for most goals scored by a goalie in international competition.
posted by ersatz at 7:36 AM on July 2, 2014 [1 favorite]
I didn't see this posted, and I think it needs to be. From Twitter:
We may have lost, but Tim Howard has become a legend.
posted by eriko at 7:48 AM on July 2, 2014 [3 favorites]
Two words.. TIM HOWARD #Respect #BelUSA—We got beat, but we got beat honestly by a better team, and that team knows they had to work for it. Good luck, Belgium.
Vincent Kompany (@VincentKompany) July 01, 2014
We may have lost, but Tim Howard has become a legend.
posted by eriko at 7:48 AM on July 2, 2014 [3 favorites]
So, did he play badly or not? Twitter was divided, by the way.
Cameron played very well 85% of the time, and made a couple of spectacular howlers. So, it's easy to see why there's a split opinion of him.
I'm still wondering about Beckermann. My only guess why he sat was that he was on a yellow card *and* the most likely person on the team to get another Yellow Card and have to sit.
The biggest problem we had was the midfield, and a big part of that problem was losing Altidore. This moved Dempsey from the #10 to the striker role, and Bradley up to a sort of #10. Neither is the best play for them.
While I agreed with Klinsmann about leaving Donvan off the squad, one has to wonder -- if we had him, he's the logical replacement for Altidore when he went down. That leaves Dempsey and Bradley in their usual slots. But, you know, you only pick 22, and three of them are goalies. You don't assume that someone is going to get hurt in the first 20 minutes and never play again. If you are assuming that, then, well, why take them at all?
What I wish is that Klinsmann went to Julian Green sooner. It's clear that he -- not Bedoya, not Wondo -- was the striker, and that let Dempsey and Bradley move back to the normal slots. I am really looking forward to a 24 year old Julian Green as the lead striker for the US.
And finally, after a few hours and some sleep, I can say this without hurting myself. DAMMIT WONDO ONE FREAKING DECENT TOUCH AND WE WON THAT GAME.
Upcoming: 2015 WWC qualifications. The USWNT and Mexico have byes to the final stage of the qualifying round, Canada, as host, has already qualified for the World Cup. We play Mexico, Guatemala, Costa Rica, and four as-yet-determined Caribbean teams in the final qualifiers. The top three teams go to the WWC (along with Canada) and the 4th placed team plays the third place team from CONMEBOL for the last qualifying slot.
The question is can the USWMT redeem themselves from their performance at the 2014 Algarve Cup, which ended up with them last in their group and 7th overall, by far their worst performance -- in the four years before, they were 1st, 1st, 3rd and 1st. The new USWNT coach, Tom Sermanni, used it almost as a proving grounds, esp. with the back line.
posted by eriko at 8:40 AM on July 2, 2014 [1 favorite]
Cameron played very well 85% of the time, and made a couple of spectacular howlers. So, it's easy to see why there's a split opinion of him.
I'm still wondering about Beckermann. My only guess why he sat was that he was on a yellow card *and* the most likely person on the team to get another Yellow Card and have to sit.
The biggest problem we had was the midfield, and a big part of that problem was losing Altidore. This moved Dempsey from the #10 to the striker role, and Bradley up to a sort of #10. Neither is the best play for them.
While I agreed with Klinsmann about leaving Donvan off the squad, one has to wonder -- if we had him, he's the logical replacement for Altidore when he went down. That leaves Dempsey and Bradley in their usual slots. But, you know, you only pick 22, and three of them are goalies. You don't assume that someone is going to get hurt in the first 20 minutes and never play again. If you are assuming that, then, well, why take them at all?
What I wish is that Klinsmann went to Julian Green sooner. It's clear that he -- not Bedoya, not Wondo -- was the striker, and that let Dempsey and Bradley move back to the normal slots. I am really looking forward to a 24 year old Julian Green as the lead striker for the US.
And finally, after a few hours and some sleep, I can say this without hurting myself. DAMMIT WONDO ONE FREAKING DECENT TOUCH AND WE WON THAT GAME.
Upcoming: 2015 WWC qualifications. The USWNT and Mexico have byes to the final stage of the qualifying round, Canada, as host, has already qualified for the World Cup. We play Mexico, Guatemala, Costa Rica, and four as-yet-determined Caribbean teams in the final qualifiers. The top three teams go to the WWC (along with Canada) and the 4th placed team plays the third place team from CONMEBOL for the last qualifying slot.
The question is can the USWMT redeem themselves from their performance at the 2014 Algarve Cup, which ended up with them last in their group and 7th overall, by far their worst performance -- in the four years before, they were 1st, 1st, 3rd and 1st. The new USWNT coach, Tom Sermanni, used it almost as a proving grounds, esp. with the back line.
posted by eriko at 8:40 AM on July 2, 2014 [1 favorite]
erikio - I included the twitter quote from Kompany (and one from Vertonghen) in my earlier comment..
It feels strange not to be in here watching footy and chatting about it with everyone. Wonder how many will turn up for the rest of the tournament. I will be here/wherever we are as I am dying to know how it all ends - its like a fantastic TV series where you want to see it through to the end to see what happens.
Klinny: "Every player on the field made their country proud with this performance in this World Cup."
Also, USA fans - check out the top rated comment on this BBC article:
"England claim that they give everything for the shirt. But did you watch the US last night? - that was giving everything for the shirt. Not one pundit would put any one of those USA players in the England team, yet they play way better than England. Why? Desire. Passion. Maybe our mutli-millionaire footballers have lost the concept of what truly playing for the shirt is."
Seeing as England has one of the largest and definitely the oldest footballing cultures on the planet, and many many thousands of highly knowledgeable fans, that's pretty high praise indeed.
posted by marienbad at 9:22 AM on July 2, 2014 [6 favorites]
It feels strange not to be in here watching footy and chatting about it with everyone. Wonder how many will turn up for the rest of the tournament. I will be here/wherever we are as I am dying to know how it all ends - its like a fantastic TV series where you want to see it through to the end to see what happens.
Klinny: "Every player on the field made their country proud with this performance in this World Cup."
Also, USA fans - check out the top rated comment on this BBC article:
"England claim that they give everything for the shirt. But did you watch the US last night? - that was giving everything for the shirt. Not one pundit would put any one of those USA players in the England team, yet they play way better than England. Why? Desire. Passion. Maybe our mutli-millionaire footballers have lost the concept of what truly playing for the shirt is."
Seeing as England has one of the largest and definitely the oldest footballing cultures on the planet, and many many thousands of highly knowledgeable fans, that's pretty high praise indeed.
posted by marienbad at 9:22 AM on July 2, 2014 [6 favorites]
erikio? Sorry, I seem to have turned you Brazilian or Italian or something. Must be all the footy...
posted by marienbad at 9:23 AM on July 2, 2014 [1 favorite]
posted by marienbad at 9:23 AM on July 2, 2014 [1 favorite]
Awesome historic world cup posters, maybe to be included in the next WC post?
Oh, do I hate the US 94 entry. 70 years from now will people be loving this style the way we do Bauhaus? What a bleak future.
posted by shothotbot at 10:20 AM on July 2, 2014
Oh, do I hate the US 94 entry. 70 years from now will people be loving this style the way we do Bauhaus? What a bleak future.
posted by shothotbot at 10:20 AM on July 2, 2014
Speaking of twitter again, English people were raking the Three Lions over the coals like crazy comparing them to the Americans. That's not meant to be a value judgement, I was just surprised at the quantity of people saying it.
posted by josher71 at 10:32 AM on July 2, 2014
posted by josher71 at 10:32 AM on July 2, 2014
A gallery of World Cup mascots. Ah, Juanito from 1970. You're so...inappropriate.
posted by wensink at 10:37 AM on July 2, 2014
posted by wensink at 10:37 AM on July 2, 2014
GUYS, GUYS. THIS IS HAPPENING ON TWITTER.
#ThingsTimHowardCouldSave
A small sample.
posted by eriko at 10:48 AM on July 2, 2014 [1 favorite]
#ThingsTimHowardCouldSave
A small sample.
posted by eriko at 10:48 AM on July 2, 2014 [1 favorite]
> Awesome historic world cup posters
Thanks for that. To my mind, the very first is far and away the best.
posted by languagehat at 11:17 AM on July 2, 2014
Thanks for that. To my mind, the very first is far and away the best.
posted by languagehat at 11:17 AM on July 2, 2014
Holy crap, things get weird quick on the mascots.
posted by running order squabble fest at 11:21 AM on July 2, 2014 [1 favorite]
posted by running order squabble fest at 11:21 AM on July 2, 2014 [1 favorite]
To my mind, the very first is far and away the best.
I totally agree, but the Mexico 86, Inca Pride!, is growing on me.
posted by shothotbot at 11:22 AM on July 2, 2014
I totally agree, but the Mexico 86, Inca Pride!, is growing on me.
posted by shothotbot at 11:22 AM on July 2, 2014
Mexico 1970 is ace. Argentina '78 looks like a poster for a 70s gay porn movie.
posted by marienbad at 12:30 PM on July 2, 2014
posted by marienbad at 12:30 PM on July 2, 2014
Ah, Juanito from 1970. You're so...inappropriate.
Because he's wearing a traditional hat from that country? I don't see anything wrong with it, unless there's something de facto wrong with being Mexican. (Now, if he had been dozing next to a burro against the base of a giant saguaro cactus...)
posted by Atom Eyes at 1:06 PM on July 2, 2014
Because he's wearing a traditional hat from that country? I don't see anything wrong with it, unless there's something de facto wrong with being Mexican. (Now, if he had been dozing next to a burro against the base of a giant saguaro cactus...)
posted by Atom Eyes at 1:06 PM on July 2, 2014
I totally agree, but the Mexico 86, Inca Pride!, is growing on me.
Mexican Incas would be impressive.
posted by (Arsenio) Hall and (Warren) Oates at 1:09 PM on July 2, 2014
Mexican Incas would be impressive.
posted by (Arsenio) Hall and (Warren) Oates at 1:09 PM on July 2, 2014
BREAKING: Algeria's Islam Slimani has revealed that the country's squad will donate their World Cup bonus to the people of Gaza.
From twitter, waiting to see if better links emerge, worthy of metafilter, else will retract
posted by infini at 1:27 PM on July 2, 2014
From twitter, waiting to see if better links emerge, worthy of metafilter, else will retract
posted by infini at 1:27 PM on July 2, 2014
> I totally agree, but the Mexico 86, Inca Pride!, is growing on me.
That was my pick for second place.
posted by languagehat at 1:39 PM on July 2, 2014
That was my pick for second place.
posted by languagehat at 1:39 PM on July 2, 2014
Mexican Incas would be impressive.
Maybe that's why he is being so sneaky.
posted by shothotbot at 3:50 PM on July 2, 2014
Maybe that's why he is being so sneaky.
posted by shothotbot at 3:50 PM on July 2, 2014
GOALEO IS EATING MY SOUL.
posted by running order squabble fest at 4:52 PM on July 2, 2014
posted by running order squabble fest at 4:52 PM on July 2, 2014
> Awesome historic world cup posters, maybe to be included in the next WC post? Oh, do I hate the US 94 entry. 70 years from now will people be loving this style the way we do Bauhaus? What a bleak future.
Bah. I like the US 94 entry. It's a Peter Max design, and it's a wonderful, joyous thing. Dude kicked that ball so hard he's in outer space. I don't want my world decorated like this, but it's a commercial poster. Imagine urban construction sidings plastered with it. It'd be great.
It's also an improvement on the FIFA-endorsed 1994 poster, which is blander than dish soap.
posted by ardgedee at 6:41 PM on July 2, 2014 [1 favorite]
Bah. I like the US 94 entry. It's a Peter Max design, and it's a wonderful, joyous thing. Dude kicked that ball so hard he's in outer space. I don't want my world decorated like this, but it's a commercial poster. Imagine urban construction sidings plastered with it. It'd be great.
It's also an improvement on the FIFA-endorsed 1994 poster, which is blander than dish soap.
posted by ardgedee at 6:41 PM on July 2, 2014 [1 favorite]
erikio? Sorry, I seem to have turned you Brazilian or Italian or something. Must be all the footy…
No worries -- hell, you've seen my typing, I'm not going to criticize anybody's! Sorry I missed you posting the quote from Kompany.
The worst cognitive dissonance I ever had with my username -- which I've used online since 1985, and I get grumpy if I can't use it -- was at a Japanese restaurant in Epcot where the waitress was wearing a name tag that said "Eriko."
I wanted that name tag. I didn't want to get a lifetime ban from all of Disney's properties, so I didn't take it. Apparently Eriko is a common female name in Japan. Ain't life wonderful?
Speaking of Disney. I'm going there, so I'll miss most of the QF matches Friday -- might catch the 2nd half of Brazil Columbia, may not catch the matches on the 5th at all, but will probably get part of them, and will have to figure out how to catch the most match time on the 8th for the 1st Semi. I'll definitly be watching the second Semi and the final two matches.
The good news is I'll be able to watch what I can of the QF matches properly -- with beer in my hand.
And I'm hoping everyone else will join us. See marienbad bitch about top level professionals unable to cope with the offsides rule! See us come up with new nicknames for the goalies! Possibly see, and no promises, mind you, see the return of Tea Cosy! Possibly see, and no promises, mind you, HULK SMASH!
posted by eriko at 7:07 PM on July 2, 2014
No worries -- hell, you've seen my typing, I'm not going to criticize anybody's! Sorry I missed you posting the quote from Kompany.
The worst cognitive dissonance I ever had with my username -- which I've used online since 1985, and I get grumpy if I can't use it -- was at a Japanese restaurant in Epcot where the waitress was wearing a name tag that said "Eriko."
I wanted that name tag. I didn't want to get a lifetime ban from all of Disney's properties, so I didn't take it. Apparently Eriko is a common female name in Japan. Ain't life wonderful?
Speaking of Disney. I'm going there, so I'll miss most of the QF matches Friday -- might catch the 2nd half of Brazil Columbia, may not catch the matches on the 5th at all, but will probably get part of them, and will have to figure out how to catch the most match time on the 8th for the 1st Semi. I'll definitly be watching the second Semi and the final two matches.
The good news is I'll be able to watch what I can of the QF matches properly -- with beer in my hand.
And I'm hoping everyone else will join us. See marienbad bitch about top level professionals unable to cope with the offsides rule! See us come up with new nicknames for the goalies! Possibly see, and no promises, mind you, see the return of Tea Cosy! Possibly see, and no promises, mind you, HULK SMASH!
posted by eriko at 7:07 PM on July 2, 2014
I will return. Remember that Tim Howard can save almost anything. Now to root for Colombia, Costa Rica, and Argentina in that order.
posted by lizarrd at 7:28 PM on July 2, 2014
posted by lizarrd at 7:28 PM on July 2, 2014
I'm in a particular mood, so I'll quick hit the rest:
'30 Uruguay: Awkward composition, like there're two separate posters joined together. It's not the outstretched goalie that makes it, it's that weird arbitrary orange bar with the zigzaggy arrow. The whole thing works despite itself.
'34 Italy: It's a poster, so it must be promoting a new issue of a magazine, or muscle salve, or something. A sporting event? Okay. Somebody heard of Constructivism recently I guess.
'38 France: One of the few I'd really want on my wall, but it looks like it's advertising a delicious aperitif, so it kind of suffers in the same way the '34 poster does.
'50 Brazil: Ruined by the awkwardly-drawn foot, a big black blotch in the middle of the composition. I like the typography, though.
'54 Switzerland: Another one I'd want on my wall. The ball is the sun, it evades us all, but the net will catch it. Or something. Try not to think too hard about possible metaphors I guess. Unlike '50's accidental naivety, '54's is knowingly wallowing in a modernist and Calderesque abstraction. This will be a motif that waxes and wanes from here forward, usually without much success.
'58 Sweden: Kind of doing what the Peter Max poster does, but not half as well. Technically impressive for being designed with only four spot colors, but unfortunately the drawing is pretty stiff.
'62 Chile: This looks weirdly contemporary: Somebody in 1992 could have made it with nth-generation photocopied clip art, some laser printer fonts and a copy of PrintShop Pro. Except it manages to be more high concept than that makes it sound. To contemporary eyes it suffers typographically, but I'm not sure it seemed that bad at the time.
'66 England: Well, the lion looks happy, I guess. They tried.
'70 Mexico: Football is serious business. So very, very serious. Here is a chart of seriousness, and the chart looks like a football. (This poster was designed to be printed in multiple colors. Sidings plastered with a variety of these must have looked awesome.)
'74 West Germany: I have a feeling a better reproduction of this poster would completely change my impression of it; right now it looks like a really lovely drawing blopped on top of some paste-boarded text. (In fact, here's a better photo, and the ball comes forth as a profound part of the drawing -- and there are some variations with treatments for the text that aren't as well mannered and probably don't work as well at full poster size)
'78 Argentina: Optical effects riffing off of the poster design trends in Germany, Switzerland, and Japan, but lacking the draftsmanship that would bring it off. A could-have-been.
'82 Spain: Designed by Joan Miró, so you know what you're going to get, and you do. Lovely but hard to tell what's going on, so it's the perfect soccer poster for your friend who likes posters and hates soccer.
'86 Mexico: So very, very macho. Unf. Other than that, it looks more like a travel poster to me.
'90 Italy: Even more banal than the '86 poster. Nice typography, anyway. Moving on.
'94 USA: As noted above.
'98 France: An interesting, colorful paint-and-collage piece pooped on by the mandatory branding element slapped right below the title, as if this is a corporate report, not a poster. The almost tunnel-like centering of the composition probably works a lot better if this were four feet tall, rather than a JPG on my computer monitor.
'02 Korea/Japan: Another one I'd want on my wall, and probably the best abstract-squiggly-brushstroke-drawing of a football field in this whole suite. Just the right balance of texture and flat color.
'06 Germany: Oh look, a constellation of stars formed overnight, to look like football stitching. Let's go to Disneyworld. Germany has long been a center of brilliant poster design, none of which has influenced this in the slightest.
'10 South Africa: The beauty of the composition and the cleverness of making a head out of the continent is kind of undermined by the horror that the head has no body. It has been pulled loose and is flying away, alongside the ball.
'14 Brazil: The heavy thumb of mandatory branding requirements that started pressing down in '98 has finally completely obliterated the print surface sixteen years later. The entire poster really seems to live to serve the branding mark, rather than work on its own. It's a lovely intricate bit of artwork, but this could serve as well as an ad for soda pop, or insurance, or sports wear, or any of the other few dozen corporations paying for sponsorship rights.
posted by ardgedee at 7:46 PM on July 2, 2014 [1 favorite]
'30 Uruguay: Awkward composition, like there're two separate posters joined together. It's not the outstretched goalie that makes it, it's that weird arbitrary orange bar with the zigzaggy arrow. The whole thing works despite itself.
'34 Italy: It's a poster, so it must be promoting a new issue of a magazine, or muscle salve, or something. A sporting event? Okay. Somebody heard of Constructivism recently I guess.
'38 France: One of the few I'd really want on my wall, but it looks like it's advertising a delicious aperitif, so it kind of suffers in the same way the '34 poster does.
'50 Brazil: Ruined by the awkwardly-drawn foot, a big black blotch in the middle of the composition. I like the typography, though.
'54 Switzerland: Another one I'd want on my wall. The ball is the sun, it evades us all, but the net will catch it. Or something. Try not to think too hard about possible metaphors I guess. Unlike '50's accidental naivety, '54's is knowingly wallowing in a modernist and Calderesque abstraction. This will be a motif that waxes and wanes from here forward, usually without much success.
'58 Sweden: Kind of doing what the Peter Max poster does, but not half as well. Technically impressive for being designed with only four spot colors, but unfortunately the drawing is pretty stiff.
'62 Chile: This looks weirdly contemporary: Somebody in 1992 could have made it with nth-generation photocopied clip art, some laser printer fonts and a copy of PrintShop Pro. Except it manages to be more high concept than that makes it sound. To contemporary eyes it suffers typographically, but I'm not sure it seemed that bad at the time.
'66 England: Well, the lion looks happy, I guess. They tried.
'70 Mexico: Football is serious business. So very, very serious. Here is a chart of seriousness, and the chart looks like a football. (This poster was designed to be printed in multiple colors. Sidings plastered with a variety of these must have looked awesome.)
'74 West Germany: I have a feeling a better reproduction of this poster would completely change my impression of it; right now it looks like a really lovely drawing blopped on top of some paste-boarded text. (In fact, here's a better photo, and the ball comes forth as a profound part of the drawing -- and there are some variations with treatments for the text that aren't as well mannered and probably don't work as well at full poster size)
'78 Argentina: Optical effects riffing off of the poster design trends in Germany, Switzerland, and Japan, but lacking the draftsmanship that would bring it off. A could-have-been.
'82 Spain: Designed by Joan Miró, so you know what you're going to get, and you do. Lovely but hard to tell what's going on, so it's the perfect soccer poster for your friend who likes posters and hates soccer.
'86 Mexico: So very, very macho. Unf. Other than that, it looks more like a travel poster to me.
'90 Italy: Even more banal than the '86 poster. Nice typography, anyway. Moving on.
'94 USA: As noted above.
'98 France: An interesting, colorful paint-and-collage piece pooped on by the mandatory branding element slapped right below the title, as if this is a corporate report, not a poster. The almost tunnel-like centering of the composition probably works a lot better if this were four feet tall, rather than a JPG on my computer monitor.
'02 Korea/Japan: Another one I'd want on my wall, and probably the best abstract-squiggly-brushstroke-drawing of a football field in this whole suite. Just the right balance of texture and flat color.
'06 Germany: Oh look, a constellation of stars formed overnight, to look like football stitching. Let's go to Disneyworld. Germany has long been a center of brilliant poster design, none of which has influenced this in the slightest.
'10 South Africa: The beauty of the composition and the cleverness of making a head out of the continent is kind of undermined by the horror that the head has no body. It has been pulled loose and is flying away, alongside the ball.
'14 Brazil: The heavy thumb of mandatory branding requirements that started pressing down in '98 has finally completely obliterated the print surface sixteen years later. The entire poster really seems to live to serve the branding mark, rather than work on its own. It's a lovely intricate bit of artwork, but this could serve as well as an ad for soda pop, or insurance, or sports wear, or any of the other few dozen corporations paying for sponsorship rights.
posted by ardgedee at 7:46 PM on July 2, 2014 [1 favorite]
Apparently Eriko is a common female name in Japan.
Confession time: I have, until right this very minute, been operating under the assumption that you are a woman of Japanese descent.
posted by evidenceofabsence at 10:40 PM on July 2, 2014 [2 favorites]
Confession time: I have, until right this very minute, been operating under the assumption that you are a woman of Japanese descent.
posted by evidenceofabsence at 10:40 PM on July 2, 2014 [2 favorites]
FIFA mulling over fourth extra-time substitute for 2018 World Cup:
posted by marienbad at 4:34 AM on July 3, 2014
Houllier said changing the rules could see fewer players struggle with muscle problems in high-intensity matches.Algeria arrive home to hero's welcome (vid)
"It's a good idea. Only in extra time. Maybe if someone is injured, why not?" the former France coach said.
So far, substitutes have scored 29 goals after coming off the bench in Brazil, already a World Cup record with eight matches left to play. The previous mark was 23 at the 2006 tournament in Germany, FIFA said.
"Substitutes play such an important part because they come with a freshness and attitude," Houllier said. "Nearly a quarter of the goals have been scored in the final 15 minutes of the game."
posted by marienbad at 4:34 AM on July 3, 2014
I thought Eriko was male as Erik is a Male name here. The only other football commentator's gender I know is wordshore, but only because he posted a pic of himself in Stars and Stripes shorts. Apart from that, I neither know nor care, I am more interested in having fun and watching the footy!
We could post a link to either here or wherever we do the QFs in the JulyByWomen meta to encourage women (or self-identifying female people) who love teh footy to come and join in. The more the merrier!
posted by marienbad at 4:38 AM on July 3, 2014
We could post a link to either here or wherever we do the QFs in the JulyByWomen meta to encourage women (or self-identifying female people) who love teh footy to come and join in. The more the merrier!
posted by marienbad at 4:38 AM on July 3, 2014
Ha, like mentioned before, I'll be putting up a new FPP for the purpose of QFs discussion and I'll add the tag to support the project. I'm happy to post a link in the meta as well.
posted by travelwithcats at 4:52 AM on July 3, 2014 [1 favorite]
posted by travelwithcats at 4:52 AM on July 3, 2014 [1 favorite]
Generally, 1000+ comment threads tend to load slower (for me and others I assume). We have over 560 comments here already and it's still one more day to go. I predict we'll need more than one new post anyway.
posted by travelwithcats at 4:58 AM on July 3, 2014 [1 favorite]
posted by travelwithcats at 4:58 AM on July 3, 2014 [1 favorite]
Apparently the world needed this. Which does not mean the world deserves it.
posted by ardgedee at 5:33 AM on July 3, 2014 [1 favorite]
posted by ardgedee at 5:33 AM on July 3, 2014 [1 favorite]
I know its early, but is anyone interested in meeting up for the semi final next tuesday (4pm) in NYC? I was thinking of a place in midtown (opia, warning: autoplay) that had a great atmosphere for the 2010 matches. MeMail me.
posted by shothotbot at 5:41 AM on July 3, 2014
posted by shothotbot at 5:41 AM on July 3, 2014
Charles Simic hasn't done a thing in three weeks except watch soccer.
posted by shothotbot at 6:26 AM on July 3, 2014
posted by shothotbot at 6:26 AM on July 3, 2014
Ah, Juanito from 1970. You're so...inappropriate.
Because he's wearing a traditional hat from that country?
No. It's the exposed midriff; which Pique, a moustachioed jalapeño pepper wearing a sombrero, is showing too in 1986. Inappropriate is probably not the right word. How about just plain odd?
posted by wensink at 6:38 AM on July 3, 2014
Because he's wearing a traditional hat from that country?
No. It's the exposed midriff; which Pique, a moustachioed jalapeño pepper wearing a sombrero, is showing too in 1986. Inappropriate is probably not the right word. How about just plain odd?
posted by wensink at 6:38 AM on July 3, 2014
Oh, I'll give you that. Pique is definitely odd, but fantastic!
posted by Atom Eyes at 8:44 AM on July 3, 2014
posted by Atom Eyes at 8:44 AM on July 3, 2014
I too thought eriko was a Japanese woman, despite having a pretty identical username scheme. Oops.
posted by maryr at 9:17 AM on July 3, 2014 [1 favorite]
posted by maryr at 9:17 AM on July 3, 2014 [1 favorite]
For anyone who needs a World Cup fix while waiting for tomorrow: Brasil x Suécia - Final da Copa de 1958 - Completo. The commentary is in Portuguese except when the radio tape is missing, which it unfortunately is for most of the first half (so you get Swedish commentary, which is much less exciting), but you can catch the names, and the action is what matters—it just gets better and better. Watch Didi feed the ball to Garrincha and Pelé and enjoy the ensuing fireworks; about fifteen minutes into the second half the announcer shouts "E um maestro do futebol Didi!" and you can only agree. Shortly after that Garrincha mesmerizes two Swedish defenders by dancing around the ball—they've obviously never seen anything like these Brazilians—and there's an astonishing last-second surprise ending.
posted by languagehat at 2:26 PM on July 3, 2014
posted by languagehat at 2:26 PM on July 3, 2014
You know what else the world needs? Doggie pitch invasions.....
posted by Dr. Zira at 2:35 PM on July 3, 2014
posted by Dr. Zira at 2:35 PM on July 3, 2014
Via BBC: "[Landon] Donovan was left out of the squad and, after USA's last-16 defeat to Belgium, feels the German manager's tactical approach was wide of the mark.
"As a whole, I think tactically, the team was not set up to succeed," Donovan, 32, tells MLS.com. "They were set up in a way that was opposite from what they've been the past couple years, which is opening up, passing, attacking.""
Yeah, like playing an open, passing, attacking game against Belgium would have paid fucking dividends. Besides, it was fairly open anyway, and at some points end-to-end.
posted by marienbad at 3:34 AM on July 4, 2014
"As a whole, I think tactically, the team was not set up to succeed," Donovan, 32, tells MLS.com. "They were set up in a way that was opposite from what they've been the past couple years, which is opening up, passing, attacking.""
Yeah, like playing an open, passing, attacking game against Belgium would have paid fucking dividends. Besides, it was fairly open anyway, and at some points end-to-end.
posted by marienbad at 3:34 AM on July 4, 2014
Brazilian commentators during the Belgium-U.S. game were of the opinion that Klinsmann had made the correct decision in leaving Landon Donovan out of the team, and very critical of Donovan and his sabbatical from football - nobody should feel secure about their place on the team after taking a sabbatical like he did.
posted by needled at 5:42 AM on July 4, 2014
posted by needled at 5:42 AM on July 4, 2014
Do we have a new thread for FRA-GER today or what
posted by elizardbits at 8:08 AM on July 4, 2014
posted by elizardbits at 8:08 AM on July 4, 2014
because lbr if this thread does not collapse under the weight of that match it will surely die from BRA-COL
posted by elizardbits at 8:08 AM on July 4, 2014
posted by elizardbits at 8:08 AM on July 4, 2014
twc said they were going to set up a QF threadm but maybe the mods put the kibosh on it as I haven't seen one. We can just stay here for now I guess.
posted by marienbad at 8:26 AM on July 4, 2014
posted by marienbad at 8:26 AM on July 4, 2014
Mark Lawrenson's predictions for the QFs
(what's the keyboard shortcut to insert a link please?)
posted by marienbad at 8:29 AM on July 4, 2014
(what's the keyboard shortcut to insert a link please?)
posted by marienbad at 8:29 AM on July 4, 2014
I present to you the new QF thread. I think the mod found it a bit silly. :-)
posted by travelwithcats at 8:34 AM on July 4, 2014
posted by travelwithcats at 8:34 AM on July 4, 2014
Hey, where are we going to be chatting. I'll almost certain miss kickoff, but should be there for the 2nd half.
Saw a SCHWIENSTIEGER jersey at ORD today and had to work to avoid laughing.
posted by eriko at 8:35 AM on July 4, 2014
Saw a SCHWIENSTIEGER jersey at ORD today and had to work to avoid laughing.
posted by eriko at 8:35 AM on July 4, 2014
Yeah, I waited with posting to ensure visibility. Match starts in 18 min, y'all!
posted by travelwithcats at 8:42 AM on July 4, 2014
posted by travelwithcats at 8:42 AM on July 4, 2014
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