January 25, 2002

3:53 PM

Message to you Rudythis article is very anti Guiliani.Now as a brit I vaguely rememember Rudy first of all being disliked and then unloved and this article brings it all back. Post 11/9 though he took on hero status even in this house,his first press conference my Mrs said "aww he looks just like Harold Lloyd," how cool is that? Plus alongside Bush he really is iconic ,truly. My point is,has the backlash begun,it seems to have in the U.K,particularly with the "x.ray "camp coverage. Are we at last being allowed to ponder the imponderables? Like are we really that holy?
posted by Fat Buddha (8 comments total)

I sincerely doubt the Guardian ever really slid too far into the Rudy fan club camp. This sort of pointless pot-shot at a politician who has left office is the kind of thing that we yell at Republicans about (many of them can't stop slamming Clinton; it's like a reflex or something).

The man is certainly a mixed bag. He's no liberal, but then he was a centrist Republican of the type that used to be quite common in the Northeast. They usually can't aspire to national office, though -- Bush I got in mainly through his Texas credentials and Reagan coattails. Giuliani may get a pass now because he really did personify the tough-as-nails spirit of the city when he was needed. Some may scoff, but there are times we need leaders, and he was actually doing a better job than Dubya there for a little while.

Imponderables? "Like are we really that holy"? What'chu talking about, Willis?
posted by dhartung at 4:35 PM on January 25, 2002

You read the Guardian and you're asking if the backlash has begun???
posted by techgnollogic at 4:39 PM on January 25, 2002

I'm not sure if I read it right, but it seems like they were saying David Dinkins was on par with Rudy. Hah.

Hah.

Ha Ha.
posted by tomorama at 5:03 PM on January 25, 2002

What'chu talking about, Willis?
I didn't say anything, dang it! :)
posted by owillis at 5:16 PM on January 25, 2002

I'm not a Giuliani fan, but this is just ridiculous — Louima admitted that he was lying when he claimed that the cops ever said "It's Giuliani time".
posted by nicwolff at 7:36 PM on January 25, 2002

nicwolff - Not a Giuliani fan either, but the Guardian article refers to the Haitian immigrant that was sodomized with a plunger handle as "Albert Louima", and the other better known Haitian immigrant that was sodomized with a plunger handle (your link) was Abner Louima.

Either that, or the guardian's fact checkers suck. Sheesh.
posted by swell at 1:01 AM on January 26, 2002

Well the Grauniad was never known for its spelling prowess.
posted by jackiemcghee at 2:18 AM on January 26, 2002

A "pointless pot-shot," indeed. Seems to me that this "report" is pure sensationalism, with no aim other than to draw attention/spike sales. Oh, and to put us 'Murricans in our place, of course. Silly Guardian.
posted by verdezza at 2:38 AM on January 26, 2002