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	<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2002 07:12:29 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Post number 14665</title>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://newyorker.com/shouts/content/?020218sh_shouts"&gt;Pssst...Got A Good Caption For A New Yorker Cartoon?&lt;/a&gt; Because the winning entry in this year&apos;s caption jamboree isn&apos;t very funny. Neither are the other shortlisted suggestions. It may be up to The New Yorker&apos;s standards, but it&apos;s certainly not up to MetaFilter&apos;s...</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2002 07:09:45 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>MiguelCardoso</dc:creator>		<category>NewYorker</category>		<category>Cartoon</category>		<category>Caption</category>		<category>BrokenLink</category>
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		<title>By: MiguelCardoso</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/14665/#223088</link>	
		<description>Here are the &lt;a href=&quot;http://cartoonbank.com/capcontest.asp&quot;&gt;other entries&lt;/a&gt;, though I&apos;d advise against reading them as they sidetrack the comic instinct something awful.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2002 07:12:29 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>MiguelCardoso</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: luser</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/14665/#223090</link>	
		<description>Boy, you would think sending an incorrectly punctuated caption to the New Yorker would earn you a ticket to to the roundfile. (&quot;At what point does this become our problem.&quot;) NYer obligingly adds the question mark on the page Miguel links.

I vote, bah. But then, leaving out the funny has not kept all that many cartoons out of the magazine.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2002 07:17:38 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: bcwinters</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/14665/#223092</link>	
		<description>While I can&apos;t say I have a better caption, I rather liked this entry: &quot;Then I got this strange compulsion - to secretly replace the power steering fluid we ordinarily use with Folgers Crystals.&quot;... What was funnier to me was the number of people who double-clicked the &quot;Submit&quot; button when they did their caption. There&apos;s no escaping the double-post.

For those whose appetites have been whetted for silly diversions like this, may I recommend a pretty good caption game from Australia that has consumed my time for the past year -- &lt;a href=&quot;http://funnypics.worldwidejeb.org&quot;&gt;Funnypics&lt;/a&gt; by &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.worldwidejeb.org&quot;&gt;Jeb&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2002 07:20:48 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: bunnyfire</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/14665/#223094</link>	
		<description>Au contraire....it&apos;s hilarious. 

Maybe it loses something in translation....the New Yorker specializes in subtlety in its humor.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2002 07:22:56 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>bunnyfire</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: MAYORBOB</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/14665/#223101</link>	
		<description>My two cents:

&quot;Augghhh.  Enough with the NASCAR fans already!&quot;</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2002 07:36:38 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>MAYORBOB</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: MiguelCardoso</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/14665/#223105</link>	
		<description>&quot;Matt says it&apos;s a circle jerk.&quot;</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2002 07:41:50 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>MiguelCardoso</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: jpoulos</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/14665/#223106</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Maybe it loses something in translation....&lt;/i&gt;

Miguel was reading it in english, bunny. No translation necessary. He speaks it better than most of us monolingual brutes.

As for the caption? I&apos;ve seen better. I&apos;m still in pre-coffee mode, so I won&apos;t even attempt it myself. Maybe later.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2002 07:44:04 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: UncleFes</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/14665/#223108</link>	
		<description>I like (and subscribe to) the New Yorker, but their cartoon quality has been flagging lately. One notable exception: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gahanwilson.com/&quot;&gt;Gahan Wilson&lt;/a&gt;. I remember his cartoons when he did them (and spot illustration) for Twilight Zone magazine. Some fantastic stuff.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2002 07:46:06 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: bunnyfire</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/14665/#223109</link>	
		<description>Well the point is still english is not his mother tongue.
So what if  this isnt rotfl funny. Sometimes a subtle witticism can be just what the doctor ordered....like a fine wine instead of boone&apos;s farm strawberry......</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2002 07:52:34 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>bunnyfire</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: rocketman</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/14665/#223116</link>	
		<description>I go with Boone&apos;s every time, don&apos;t knock it. Carlo Rossi is yummy too.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2002 08:05:55 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: bunnyfire</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/14665/#223124</link>	
		<description>I don&apos;t drink myself-unless you count a little sip of scuppernong wine at my parents&apos; house...yum....but I digress....

point, anyway, is there are different levels of humor-surely we can agree we don&apos;t have to judge them by the same yardstick. 
(Oh how it pains me to disagree with my portuguese evil twin-but I must....)</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2002 08:21:18 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dydecker</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/14665/#223131</link>	
		<description>&quot;Did I miss anything?&quot;</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2002 08:35:05 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Kafkaesque</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/14665/#223135</link>	
		<description>And who doesn&apos;t delight in the gentle caress of a good scuppernong occasionally? Many&apos;s the night I&apos;ve woken up upside down in the bathtub after one too many trips round the dance floor with Madame scuppernong. Hoo!</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2002 08:42:25 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: rushmc</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/14665/#223152</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;I remember his cartoons when he did them (and spot illustration) for Twilight Zone magazine.&lt;/i&gt;

He had a cartoon in each issue of F&amp;amp;SF for years back in the 80s.  Were the first thing I flipped to every month.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2002 09:10:08 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: beagle</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/14665/#223187</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Boy, you would think sending an incorrectly punctuated caption to the New Yorker would earn you a ticket to to the roundfile&lt;/i&gt;

Actually, it looks like this is a New Yorker error by whoever tacked the caption to the cartoon.  They have it correct in one place and incorrect in the other. The entries page carries all entries verbatim (including some from folks who put their name, e-mail address and phone number in the wrong field).  If you search for the winner, it comes up as having been submitted as: &quot;At what point does this become *our* problem?&quot;   Alas, even the NYer is getting sloppy.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2002 10:07:29 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: kindall</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/14665/#223200</link>	
		<description>I like this submission the best: &quot;Of course, in the southern hemisphere, he&apos;d be going the other way around.&quot;</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2002 10:30:31 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: boogah</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/14665/#223201</link>	
		<description>actually, i think &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mcsweeneys.net/links/lists/cartoon.html&quot;&gt;earl wang&lt;/a&gt; should have won...</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2002 10:31:33 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: briank</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/14665/#223273</link>	
		<description>I agree with kindall -- much funnier.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2002 12:05:51 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: owillis</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/14665/#223280</link>	
		<description>Maybe it&apos;s just my crass nature, but I&apos;ve never understood the humor of New Yorker cartoons (beyond the &quot;Everyone&apos;s a Dog&quot; one). I guess I need my humor to more hit me over the head like Mad magazine than a genteel New Yorker style.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2002 12:13:38 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: macrone</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/14665/#223301</link>	
		<description>Actually, owsills, after hearing the joke about a billion times, I believe the line is, &quot;On the Internet, nobody knows you&apos;re a dog.&quot; But your reading is just about as funny and insightful.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2002 12:39:00 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>macrone</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: EngineBeak</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/14665/#223312</link>	
		<description>&quot;Maybe you should give up trying to steer with your dick, Bendy Pete.&quot;

or something along these lines, put more smoothly</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2002 12:52:54 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: da5id</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/14665/#223332</link>	
		<description>Wasn&apos;t there a Seinfeld episode that involved Cartoon Captions in the New Yorker???</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2002 13:25:02 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: macrone</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/14665/#223358</link>	
		<description>da5id: Yes. Elaine upbraids a New Yorker editor for publishing a cartoon whose caption makes no sense, and in the process talks her way into submitting some cartoons of her own on spec. (Kramer and Jerry hold their own &quot;caption contest&quot; on her first effort.) She winds up plagiarizing Ziggy.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2002 14:02:01 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: geoff.</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/14665/#223449</link>	
		<description>My teacher sent one in and was mad it didn&apos;t make it:

&quot;Hey Ted, you didn&apos;t tell me we had a circle drive&quot;</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2002 17:16:01 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dhartung</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/14665/#223679</link>	
		<description>Well, the NYer always did go for droll rather than LOL funny. I do suspect in the Shawn years they might have gone with the more subtle one that kindall liked. You may not realize it, but the cartoonist doesn&apos;t always submit a caption -- or if he does, it isn&apos;t necessarily used.

I have a favorite cartoon they published years ago, shortly after I&apos;d been living there. It was a chic woman in capri pants reading on her chaise, her Ben-Stiller-esque husband annoyedly perusing a sheet of paper. Behind him you could see his gadgeted-up home office. The caption was &lt;i&gt;I was afraid of this -- a Chinese menu just came in on our fax.&lt;/i&gt;

Swipe the text here for the explanation:
&lt;font color=#336699&gt;See, in New York, the Chinese restaurants relentlessly advertise by slipping one-sheet menus underneath doorways, sneaking and even bribing their way into secure buildings. You&apos;ll hear a quick swoosh as it comes in, or step on it as you enter. And 5 to 1 it&apos;s Chinese, despite the preponderance of other cuisines.&lt;/font&gt;

I actually simply chuckled on first reading it. &lt;i&gt;Of course!&lt;/i&gt; Then my Dad confessed that he didn&apos;t get it &lt;u&gt;at all&lt;/u&gt;. This astounded me, and then, I began to guffaw. It was funnier because it was such an exclusive type of joke. Ten years on, I still love it.

The truth is, a lot of them are -- or used to be -- like that, dependent on stereotypes and prejudices of Upper West Side degreed professionals who all attend the same cocktail parties and seminars at the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.92ndsty.org/&quot;&gt;92nd Street Y&lt;/a&gt; (which is actually a YMHA, not a YMCA -- a good bar bet).

By the way, I think Roz Chast continues to be spot-on.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2002 23:08:58 -0800</pubDate>
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