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	<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2002 10:50:22 -0800</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-000010235feb10.story?coll=la%2Dnews%2Dcomment%2Dopinions"&gt;Iraq Calls Bush&apos;s Bluff on Weapons Scrutiny.&lt;/a&gt; Former U.N. Weapons inspector Scott Ritter claims that Iraq&apos;s new attitude toward inspections might undermine attempts to end Saddam Hussein&apos;s regime.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2002 10:06:28 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ty Webb</dc:creator>		<category>Iraq</category>		<category>war</category>		<category>ScottRitter</category>		<category>weapons</category>		<category>inspections</category>		<category>Bush</category>		<category>weaponsofmassdestruction</category>
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		<title>By: stormy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/14671/#223216</link>	
		<description>Think what you will about the administration - I don&apos;t think they would have made an offer unless they felt comfortable backing it up. Iraq is clearly up to no good, and I believe this administration will do what it takes to back up the inspectors and expose what is going on over there.  What&apos;s to say they didn&apos;t want them to call the bluff?  Sometimes that in itself is the bluff...  That&apos;s just my opinion. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;To make your own decisions, I&apos;d suggest a couple articles: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.psqonline.org/99_article.php3?byear=2000&amp;bmonth=winter&amp;a=01free&quot;&gt;&quot;After the Storm: U.S. Policy Toward Iraq Since 1991&quot;&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/unscom/interviews/ritter.html&quot;&gt;Frontline Interview with Scott Ritter&lt;/a&gt; (the author of the link in the FPP if you haven&apos;t yet read it).</description>
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		<title>By: jaek</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/14671/#223235</link>	
		<description>Alternative FPP wording:  Threat of imminent ass-whupping accomplishes what years of sanctions haven&apos;t - &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-000010235feb10.story?coll=la%2Dnews%2Dcomment%2Dopinions&quot;&gt;Iraq talks about allowing inspectors back in&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2002 11:10:06 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Postroad</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/14671/#223252</link>	
		<description>Might well be Arafat-like thing: I am going to take care of all the problems you seem bothered with. Trust me.
  Iraq might well be stalling for time. Shen they say  simply, Inspectors welcome to Iraq and can have access to any and all places, then we can see who is bluffing and who is not.  I am not a great admirere of Mr. Bush, but then I don&apos;t admire Saddam either.  So put up now that you have been dealt a hand.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2002 11:22:35 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: sheauga</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/14671/#223255</link>	
		<description>Perhaps I&apos;m oversimplifying, but aren&apos;t we reaching the point where effective WMD inspection is a must, regardless what country it is or who&apos;s in charge?

Richard Butler, described as &quot;the man who led the United Nations&apos; failed effort to eliminate Iraq&apos;s weapons of mass destruction in the late 1990s&quot; is proposing a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/stores/detail/-/books/0813339804/reviews/002-1712118-4895203#08133398046601&quot;&gt;Council on Weapons of Mass Destruction&lt;/a&gt;. This would be a group prepared to take military action against countries which violate non-proliferation.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2002 11:27:34 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: skallas</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/14671/#223294</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Threat of imminent ass-whupping accomplishes what years of sanctions haven&apos;t &lt;/i&gt;

I doubt it, the last time the UN sent inspectors in somehow a couple American spies came along for the ride.  Mutual distrust and hide and seek games probably don&apos;t make for the best way to release the sanctions.

I think this is just a ploy to call Bush on his WWII reference on the Axis of Evil.  Say what you want about those countries, but a lot of Europeans actually had to rebuild their entire countries 50 years ago after fighting, dare I say, real &quot;evil.&quot;  The US suffers a terrorist attack and Bush is ready for WWIII?  Insane.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2002 12:32:00 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>skallas</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: onegoodmove</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/14671/#223337</link>	
		<description>&quot;This would be a group prepared to take military action against countries which violate non-proliferation.&quot;

 Unless those countries that have nuclear weapons agree to totally disarm, isn&apos;t it hypocritical to ask others not to acquire weapons.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2002 13:30:41 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: MidasMulligan</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/14671/#223461</link>	
		<description>If &lt;i&gt;one line in a speech &lt;/i&gt;causes Saddam to freak and reopen Iraq to weapons inspections - something several years of diplomatic work by a number of nations and Bill Clinton was unable to accomplish - I&apos;d call that a pretty flippin&apos; effective speech. Seems odd to have it portrayed as &quot;calling Bush&apos;s bluff&quot;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2002 17:54:12 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dhartung</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/14671/#223639</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Supreme excellence in war consists of breaking the enemy&apos;s resistance without fighting.&lt;/i&gt;
-- &lt;a href=&quot;http://acc6.its.brooklyn.cuny.edu/~phalsall/texts/suntzu.html&quot;&gt;Sun Tzu&lt;/a&gt;

For a glimpse of the reshaped Middle East that could result -- a highly optimistic one, to be sure, but consider whether things could really be much worse than they are -- see &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jpost.com/Editions/2002/01/07/Columns/Columns.41254.html&quot;&gt;this Jerusalem Post column that examines the endgame&lt;/a&gt; of a more directly goal-oriented policy in the region. A broad-based government in Baghdad; a post-theocracy Iran that welcomes the son of the Shah and cheers the US flag; and a disappointed, sidelined Wahabbist regime in Riyadh. Imagine this outcome, and how much better it would be for &lt;i&gt;all&lt;/i&gt; in the region, and hope that bluster, backed up by solid results on the ground in Afghanistan, can do it all. Probably not. But we are a global hegemon; we can hardly shift our weight without disturbing things. With a positive goal in mind we stand a much better shot at achieving the win-win outcome. We might even get a pragmatic replacement for Arafat. Or Arafat, robbed of his sponsors, could begin to walk the way he talks.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2002 21:57:37 -0800</pubDate>
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