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Deadpool [Red Band Trailer] [NSFW] [Green Band Trailer] [SFW]
Based upon Marvel Comics’ most unconventional anti-hero, Deadpool tells the origin story of former Special Forces operative turned mercenary Wade Wilson, who after being subjected to a rogue experiment that leaves him with accelerated healing powers, adopts the alter ego Deadpool. Armed with his new abilities and a dark, twisted sense of humor, Deadpool hunts down the man who nearly destroyed his life.
Was that Colossus? I thought the X-men were owned by Fox and therefore outside the Marvel Cinematic Universe.
posted by cazoo at 7:06 AM on August 6, 2015
posted by cazoo at 7:06 AM on August 6, 2015
So I'm guessing the post-credits is going to be a lot of TJ Miller's colorful descriptions of Deadpool's appearance.
posted by leotrotsky at 7:07 AM on August 6, 2015 [6 favorites]
posted by leotrotsky at 7:07 AM on August 6, 2015 [6 favorites]
AlonzomosleyFBI, I found this last bit via Slashfilm
You’ll notice that the sequence that was created for the sizzle reel and ended up being the leaked, effectively convincing the studio to actually make the movie, has been completely been recreated for the movie. Again, it’s been shortened a little bit, but you get the idea. Reynolds attributed that leak to being the reason this movie finally got made, so it’s cool to see it survive in some form in the real movie.posted by Fizz at 7:07 AM on August 6, 2015 [5 favorites]
I think there's an agreement that certain characters can cross over as long as the word 'mutant' isn't used.
I'm looking forward to this - Ryan Reynolds was born for this role. Not sure what that says about him, but still.
posted by Mooski at 7:08 AM on August 6, 2015 [3 favorites]
I'm looking forward to this - Ryan Reynolds was born for this role. Not sure what that says about him, but still.
posted by Mooski at 7:08 AM on August 6, 2015 [3 favorites]
Ah, nevermind. I didn't realize what studio was making this.
posted by cazoo at 7:10 AM on August 6, 2015
posted by cazoo at 7:10 AM on August 6, 2015
I know nothing about Deadpool, though I love the MCU films. Tumblr told me that he's pansexual, sexually submissive, and enjoys dressing in womens' clothing. Is that all true? I like the idea of a genderfluid superhero and hope it is.
posted by Windigo at 7:10 AM on August 6, 2015
posted by Windigo at 7:10 AM on August 6, 2015
Was that Colossus? I thought the X-men were owned by Fox and therefore outside the Marvel Cinematic Universe.
cazoo
This movie is not part of the Marvel Cinematic Universe.
This movie is being made by Fox, it's not from Disney. Fox owns the rights to Deadpool as part of the X-men franchise.
posted by Sangermaine at 7:10 AM on August 6, 2015 [1 favorite]
cazoo
This movie is not part of the Marvel Cinematic Universe.
This movie is being made by Fox, it's not from Disney. Fox owns the rights to Deadpool as part of the X-men franchise.
posted by Sangermaine at 7:10 AM on August 6, 2015 [1 favorite]
Was that Colossus? I thought the X-men were owned by Fox and therefore outside the Marvel Cinematic Universe.
This is from 20th Century Fox. X-men are fair game.
posted by pan at 7:10 AM on August 6, 2015
This is from 20th Century Fox. X-men are fair game.
posted by pan at 7:10 AM on August 6, 2015
This is a Fox film. Since the character of Deadpool first appeared in an X-Men comic (created by Liefeld), Fox has the movie rights.
posted by 1970s Antihero at 7:10 AM on August 6, 2015
posted by 1970s Antihero at 7:10 AM on August 6, 2015
Remember the original test footage that came out ~ a year ago? (And which is now hard to find on youtube because of an infinitely expanding roster of deadpool reaction videos?)
In the test footage, the fight was the comedy. In the trailer, the same fight looks like standard badassery filling time between a couple jokes.
Maybe it's the music.
posted by postcommunism at 7:11 AM on August 6, 2015 [2 favorites]
In the test footage, the fight was the comedy. In the trailer, the same fight looks like standard badassery filling time between a couple jokes.
Maybe it's the music.
posted by postcommunism at 7:11 AM on August 6, 2015 [2 favorites]
Wow, and I thought Deadpool was Marvel/Disney as well. Chimichanga.
posted by Mooski at 7:11 AM on August 6, 2015
posted by Mooski at 7:11 AM on August 6, 2015
People responding thinking that this is Disney might want to try clicking on the first and second links, which go to trailers on Fox's YouTube account.
posted by Sangermaine at 7:14 AM on August 6, 2015
posted by Sangermaine at 7:14 AM on August 6, 2015
Is this a Fox film?!
posted by Brandon Blatcher at 7:15 AM on August 6, 2015 [10 favorites]
posted by Brandon Blatcher at 7:15 AM on August 6, 2015 [10 favorites]
I know nothing about Deadpool, though I love the MCU films. Tumblr told me that he's pansexual, sexually submissive, and enjoys dressing in womens' clothing. Is that all true? I like the idea of a genderfluid superhero and hope it is.
I'm sorry to say that he is usually in the mode of a bloodier bugs bunny. Which might not be what you're looking for.
posted by pan at 7:16 AM on August 6, 2015 [2 favorites]
I'm sorry to say that he is usually in the mode of a bloodier bugs bunny. Which might not be what you're looking for.
posted by pan at 7:16 AM on August 6, 2015 [2 favorites]
"breaking news deadpool movie sure to appeal to men who wish that their subscription to maxim was a person they could be friends with"
posted by HeroZero at 7:16 AM on August 6, 2015 [30 favorites]
posted by HeroZero at 7:16 AM on August 6, 2015 [30 favorites]
Would someone be kind enough to make a list. If I have no prior knowledge of Deadpool, where is a good place to begin with the comics? Origin stories are welcome. As well as any standalone graphic novel collections.
posted by Fizz at 7:18 AM on August 6, 2015
posted by Fizz at 7:18 AM on August 6, 2015
"Please, don't make the super-suit green! Or animated!” Ha! If they have him wonder out loud why he looks like Ryan Reynolds, that would be awesome. As for the music, I'm pretty sure "X Gon' Give It to Ya" is supposed to be a clever shout-out to Weapon X, the program that turns Wade Wilson into Deadpool.
posted by zombieflanders at 7:18 AM on August 6, 2015 [2 favorites]
posted by zombieflanders at 7:18 AM on August 6, 2015 [2 favorites]
Is Ryan Reynolds the most superhero-playing actor of all time? Green Lantern, Deadpool...wasn't he somebody else?
posted by xingcat at 7:18 AM on August 6, 2015
posted by xingcat at 7:18 AM on August 6, 2015
Is Ryan Reynolds the most superhero-playing actor of all time? Green Lantern, Deadpool...wasn't he somebody else?
I think it's a tie with Chris Evans and Ben Affleck.
posted by AlonzoMosleyFBI at 7:21 AM on August 6, 2015 [3 favorites]
I think it's a tie with Chris Evans and Ben Affleck.
posted by AlonzoMosleyFBI at 7:21 AM on August 6, 2015 [3 favorites]
He was Hannibal King in Blade 3
Oops. My bad.
posted by AlonzoMosleyFBI at 7:22 AM on August 6, 2015 [1 favorite]
Oops. My bad.
posted by AlonzoMosleyFBI at 7:22 AM on August 6, 2015 [1 favorite]
"breaking news deadpool movie sure to appeal to men who wish that their subscription to maxim was a person they could be friends with"
For fuck's sake Clark, you don't have to be a high and mighty prick on every occasion.
posted by Brandon Blatcher at 7:22 AM on August 6, 2015 [6 favorites]
For fuck's sake Clark, you don't have to be a high and mighty prick on every occasion.
posted by Brandon Blatcher at 7:22 AM on August 6, 2015 [6 favorites]
Is Ryan Reynolds the most superhero-playing actor of all time? Green Lantern, Deadpool...wasn't he somebody else?
Here's a list thingy.
posted by Windigo at 7:22 AM on August 6, 2015 [1 favorite]
Here's a list thingy.
posted by Windigo at 7:22 AM on August 6, 2015 [1 favorite]
At the Boston ComicCon last week, my five year old had to be physically restrained from attacking a group of "Bad Spider-Mans" (Deadpools) because "Mommy doesn't like them because they use guns."
I thought about unleashing him as Deadpool cosplayers tend to be the physical avatars of The Worst Dude At The Party, but we left his Thor hammer at home.
posted by robocop is bleeding at 7:24 AM on August 6, 2015 [19 favorites]
I thought about unleashing him as Deadpool cosplayers tend to be the physical avatars of The Worst Dude At The Party, but we left his Thor hammer at home.
posted by robocop is bleeding at 7:24 AM on August 6, 2015 [19 favorites]
Where to start with Deadpool? The Joe Kelly run is where he became "Deadpool" and not Rob Liefeld's Deathstroke knock-off. Cullen Bunn had a good run, and the current run from Brian Poeshn and Gerry Duggan is good too.
posted by thecjm at 7:24 AM on August 6, 2015 [7 favorites]
posted by thecjm at 7:24 AM on August 6, 2015 [7 favorites]
Would someone be kind enough to make a list. If I have no prior knowledge of Deadpool, where is a good place to begin with the comics? Origin stories are welcome. As well as any standalone graphic novel collections.
Basically the entire run of Cable and Deadpool is gold.
posted by pan at 7:24 AM on August 6, 2015 [3 favorites]
Basically the entire run of Cable and Deadpool is gold.
posted by pan at 7:24 AM on August 6, 2015 [3 favorites]
Though it's really a trick question. Who has appeared in the most superhero movies, playing different characters?
Stan Lee
posted by Windigo at 7:25 AM on August 6, 2015 [18 favorites]
Stan Lee
posted by Windigo at 7:25 AM on August 6, 2015 [18 favorites]
At his best, Deadpool is Bugs Bunny for 13 year old boys. At his worst, Deadpool is Bugs Bunny for 13 year old boys.
posted by thecjm at 7:25 AM on August 6, 2015 [17 favorites]
posted by thecjm at 7:25 AM on August 6, 2015 [17 favorites]
Fizz,
Check out the first ongoing Deadpool series from the 90s by Joe Kelly, which established the character as he appears in this movie. The character was created by Liefeld and Nicieza, but his original characterization is pretty different.
Daniel Way's Deadpool run from the mid-2000s, and the current ongoing Deadpool series are good.
Cable and Deadpool was a great, bizarre buddy series that saw the zany, hyperactive Deadpool paired with the dour, hyper-serious, grim future-soldier Cable. Uncanny X-Force has a great depiction of Deadpool, because he works best IMO when having other people to bounce off of.
posted by Sangermaine at 7:25 AM on August 6, 2015 [2 favorites]
Check out the first ongoing Deadpool series from the 90s by Joe Kelly, which established the character as he appears in this movie. The character was created by Liefeld and Nicieza, but his original characterization is pretty different.
Daniel Way's Deadpool run from the mid-2000s, and the current ongoing Deadpool series are good.
Cable and Deadpool was a great, bizarre buddy series that saw the zany, hyperactive Deadpool paired with the dour, hyper-serious, grim future-soldier Cable. Uncanny X-Force has a great depiction of Deadpool, because he works best IMO when having other people to bounce off of.
posted by Sangermaine at 7:25 AM on August 6, 2015 [2 favorites]
If I have no prior knowledge of Deadpool, where is a good place to begin with the comics? Origin stories are welcome.
Well, there's early '90s-style Liefeld all-pockets-and-big-guns-and-no-feet Deadpool, and then there's the modern Deadpool who largely exists to mock the Marvel universe while still remaining canon. If you're prepping for the movie, check out collections of his self-titled series (which started in 1997) and Cable and Deadpool.
Is Ryan Reynolds the most superhero-playing actor of all time? Green Lantern, Deadpool...wasn't he somebody else?
If we're going for deeper comicbook cuts, he's also been in R.I.P.D. and Sabrina the Teenage Witch.
posted by zombieflanders at 7:26 AM on August 6, 2015 [2 favorites]
Well, there's early '90s-style Liefeld all-pockets-and-big-guns-and-no-feet Deadpool, and then there's the modern Deadpool who largely exists to mock the Marvel universe while still remaining canon. If you're prepping for the movie, check out collections of his self-titled series (which started in 1997) and Cable and Deadpool.
Is Ryan Reynolds the most superhero-playing actor of all time? Green Lantern, Deadpool...wasn't he somebody else?
If we're going for deeper comicbook cuts, he's also been in R.I.P.D. and Sabrina the Teenage Witch.
posted by zombieflanders at 7:26 AM on August 6, 2015 [2 favorites]
The character's name just makes me think of 'Milpool' from the Simpsons episode where Bart breaks his leg
posted by clockzero at 7:27 AM on August 6, 2015 [5 favorites]
posted by clockzero at 7:27 AM on August 6, 2015 [5 favorites]
I'm sorry to say that he is usually in the mode of a bloodier bugs bunny. Which might not be what you're looking for.
Oh, that's fine. It'd just be nice if all those claims are true, since that's something we never get in superhero films outside of fanfiction.
posted by Windigo at 7:27 AM on August 6, 2015
Oh, that's fine. It'd just be nice if all those claims are true, since that's something we never get in superhero films outside of fanfiction.
posted by Windigo at 7:27 AM on August 6, 2015
I'm pretty well weary of superhero movies in general, but you could have talked me round on Deadpool. A superhero movie that undercuts bombast instead of revelling in it would be nice.
So....is anyone else worried that the jokes in this trailer aren't funny? Ryan Reynolds can do smarmy fine. Smarmy and dumb doesn't work, though. Them's the bad guys.
posted by Diablevert at 7:31 AM on August 6, 2015 [1 favorite]
So....is anyone else worried that the jokes in this trailer aren't funny? Ryan Reynolds can do smarmy fine. Smarmy and dumb doesn't work, though. Them's the bad guys.
posted by Diablevert at 7:31 AM on August 6, 2015 [1 favorite]
So look. I know MeFites gonna poo poo, but I am stupid excited for this:
Ryan Reynolds appears to GET the feel of Deadpool, 4th wall breaking, parody, kinda crazy.
Fox appears willing to allow this to be a gamble. It has an R rating, which is honestly requried to do Deadpool correctly and is NOT normal for something designed to appeal to everyone. Deadpool will NOT appeal to everyone, and that is okay. It appears to be being done RIGHT and not Mass market.
In what I can only describe as a mind boggling set of level headed, Fox (the Studio that Canceled Firefly!) not only admitted that they made a boneheaded decision in Wolverine Origins in regard to Deadpool they poked fun at trailer mania by putting out the linked Trailer Trailer (at least I hope that was intentional)
While I normally become more worried as more information comes out about something I Love being adapted into a new art form, The more they show, the more my worry subsides.
The more I see hints that Fox appears to Get It, or at least, Fox appears to understand that the people involved Get It , and they aren't standing in the way of them Getting It.
posted by Twain Device at 7:32 AM on August 6, 2015 [2 favorites]
Ryan Reynolds appears to GET the feel of Deadpool, 4th wall breaking, parody, kinda crazy.
Fox appears willing to allow this to be a gamble. It has an R rating, which is honestly requried to do Deadpool correctly and is NOT normal for something designed to appeal to everyone. Deadpool will NOT appeal to everyone, and that is okay. It appears to be being done RIGHT and not Mass market.
In what I can only describe as a mind boggling set of level headed, Fox (the Studio that Canceled Firefly!) not only admitted that they made a boneheaded decision in Wolverine Origins in regard to Deadpool they poked fun at trailer mania by putting out the linked Trailer Trailer (at least I hope that was intentional)
While I normally become more worried as more information comes out about something I Love being adapted into a new art form, The more they show, the more my worry subsides.
The more I see hints that Fox appears to Get It, or at least, Fox appears to understand that the people involved Get It , and they aren't standing in the way of them Getting It.
posted by Twain Device at 7:32 AM on August 6, 2015 [2 favorites]
If they have him wonder out loud why he looks like Ryan Reynolds, that would be awesome.
Deadpool was once given a curse by Loki that made his face look like Tom Cruise.
posted by straight at 7:32 AM on August 6, 2015 [4 favorites]
Deadpool was once given a curse by Loki that made his face look like Tom Cruise.
posted by straight at 7:32 AM on August 6, 2015 [4 favorites]
Gail Simone's run on the end of '00s Deadpool and the start of Agent X is also worth checking out. Agent X isn't Deadpool, but a big part of that storyline is why this guy who isn't Deadpool seems to be in many ways identical to Deadpool.
posted by griphus at 7:33 AM on August 6, 2015 [3 favorites]
posted by griphus at 7:33 AM on August 6, 2015 [3 favorites]
Count me among those who have issues with Grimdark (jeez DC, we get it, you are edgy and brooding), so I'm always happy for something to come along and show to the world, look, movies can be fun! There can be seriousness while also making jokes.
posted by Twain Device at 7:37 AM on August 6, 2015
posted by Twain Device at 7:37 AM on August 6, 2015
Deadpool's fourth-wall breaking Hyper Combo from Marvel vs. Capcom 3.
posted by griphus at 7:43 AM on August 6, 2015 [4 favorites]
posted by griphus at 7:43 AM on August 6, 2015 [4 favorites]
I was in the anti-Deadpool pool until the recent Posehn/Duggan run, which brought me around to liking the character. Also liked the recent Hawkeye vs. Deadpool LS, where Duggan does a great job of both doing both leads (and Kate!) decently, while poking some good fun at the Fraction Hawkeye series. I don't often laugh out loud while reading stuff, but there's a riff on the Fraction "Chris Ware does Superheroes" trope that actually got me to do it.
posted by Shepherd at 7:44 AM on August 6, 2015
posted by Shepherd at 7:44 AM on August 6, 2015
I feel like this movie took long enough to be made that I've managed to age out of enjoying the character and the whole ironic-yucks style of movie violence. As in-universe parody characters go, I find that Squirrel Girl is a lot more fun. But on the other hand, the great thing about Deadpool is that even goofy cosplay fan videos feel 100% canon to the character.
posted by Strange Interlude at 7:47 AM on August 6, 2015 [3 favorites]
posted by Strange Interlude at 7:47 AM on August 6, 2015 [3 favorites]
He killed Mario Lopez, so I have to give him mad props for that.
posted by briank at 8:15 AM on August 6, 2015
posted by briank at 8:15 AM on August 6, 2015
If I have no prior knowledge of Deadpool, where is a good place to begin with the comics?
It looks like they're going with the original ongoing run. Pick up the trades with Kelly listed as the top name. (The recent stuff by Duggan and Posehn has been excellent as well.)
Tumblr told me that he's pansexual, sexually submissive, and enjoys dressing in womens' clothing. Is that all true?
It's not wrong, although Tumblr fandom tends to overemphasize things they like. "Bloodier Bugs Bunny" is a good take.
It has an R rating, which is honestly requried to do Deadpool correctly
I don't understand this sentiment. The original material is PG-13 at best (at least by US standards.) I'm actually worried that the R will be taken as license to behave badly.
The key to Deadpool is that he's a tragicomic figure. I'm hoping they're just holding back on the tragedy in the trailers.
posted by ChurchHatesTucker at 8:16 AM on August 6, 2015 [1 favorite]
It looks like they're going with the original ongoing run. Pick up the trades with Kelly listed as the top name. (The recent stuff by Duggan and Posehn has been excellent as well.)
Tumblr told me that he's pansexual, sexually submissive, and enjoys dressing in womens' clothing. Is that all true?
It's not wrong, although Tumblr fandom tends to overemphasize things they like. "Bloodier Bugs Bunny" is a good take.
It has an R rating, which is honestly requried to do Deadpool correctly
I don't understand this sentiment. The original material is PG-13 at best (at least by US standards.) I'm actually worried that the R will be taken as license to behave badly.
The key to Deadpool is that he's a tragicomic figure. I'm hoping they're just holding back on the tragedy in the trailers.
posted by ChurchHatesTucker at 8:16 AM on August 6, 2015 [1 favorite]
I had to detour around the Georgia Street viaduct for a week for this?
posted by HillbillyInBC at 8:23 AM on August 6, 2015 [1 favorite]
posted by HillbillyInBC at 8:23 AM on August 6, 2015 [1 favorite]
Deadpool is the superhero character Reynolds should have been playing all along. (I refuse to remember Wolverine: Origins for everyone involved's sakes. I do remember we had pizza that night. It was pretty good.)
posted by Kitteh at 8:29 AM on August 6, 2015
posted by Kitteh at 8:29 AM on August 6, 2015
Halle Berry played Storm and the Catwoman. Ellen Page was Kitty Pryde and also a sort of lunatic vigilante superhero in Super. Doug Jones was Abe Sapien and the Silver Sufer. Michael Jai White was Spawn and also the Bronze Tiger. Nicholas Cage was Ghost Rider and Big Daddy in Kick Ass (and was almost superman). Ray Stevenson played the Punisher and now is Volstagg in the Thor franchise. Michael Keaton was Batman and also Birdman.
Ben Affleck was also sort of superman in Hollywoodland.
Buster Crabbe was Flash Gordon, Buck Rogers, and Tarzan -- the only actor to play all three.
The almost-completely-forgotten actor (and former Omahan) Judd Holdren played Captain Video, Commando Cody, and Ranger Higgens in Rocky Jones Space Ranger. Omaha never gets no credit for nothing.
posted by maxsparber at 8:34 AM on August 6, 2015 [6 favorites]
Ben Affleck was also sort of superman in Hollywoodland.
Buster Crabbe was Flash Gordon, Buck Rogers, and Tarzan -- the only actor to play all three.
The almost-completely-forgotten actor (and former Omahan) Judd Holdren played Captain Video, Commando Cody, and Ranger Higgens in Rocky Jones Space Ranger. Omaha never gets no credit for nothing.
posted by maxsparber at 8:34 AM on August 6, 2015 [6 favorites]
The non-Deadpool Ryan Reynolds kinda creeps me out with that haircut. Like a circus peanut with ears.
posted by cmoj at 8:41 AM on August 6, 2015
posted by cmoj at 8:41 AM on August 6, 2015
I really don't care much for Deadpool. The humor always strikes me as the kind of jokes that people who shout "Random!" love.
But the second I saw COLOSSUS LOOKING LIKE COLOSSUS FOR THE FIRST TIME, I was on board.
posted by lumpenprole at 9:05 AM on August 6, 2015 [3 favorites]
But the second I saw COLOSSUS LOOKING LIKE COLOSSUS FOR THE FIRST TIME, I was on board.
posted by lumpenprole at 9:05 AM on August 6, 2015 [3 favorites]
Brandon Routh has also been Superman, the Atom, and the perhaps lesser-known Todd Ingram in this flick, which also boosts Chris Evans' count by one (as does this, which few people remember began as a graphic novel). By my count, Chris Evans has now been in ten comic book movies as four different characters, with about three more movies in the pipeline. That must be a record for the prominent roles he plays in each.
Tommy Lee Jones has also variously been Two-Face, Colonel Chester Phillips, and Kay several times.
posted by ricochet biscuit at 9:10 AM on August 6, 2015 [1 favorite]
Tommy Lee Jones has also variously been Two-Face, Colonel Chester Phillips, and Kay several times.
posted by ricochet biscuit at 9:10 AM on August 6, 2015 [1 favorite]
Aaron Taylor-Johnson and Evan Peters played superhero and villain in "Kick-ass", and within the last year they've BOTH played Quicksilver.
posted by angeline at 9:16 AM on August 6, 2015 [1 favorite]
posted by angeline at 9:16 AM on August 6, 2015 [1 favorite]
Ah wait Evan Peters wasn't the villain. Still they were both in "Kick-ass". MY BAD.
posted by angeline at 9:18 AM on August 6, 2015
posted by angeline at 9:18 AM on August 6, 2015
I've got my New Mutants 98 and it's going for 150-400 on ebay these days. I keep meaning to sell it before it's too late, but I'm freaking lazy. I also don't have it graded and feel it's not good enough to grade, so I'm expecting the lower end. I suppose now that the trailer is out I'd better start getting serious about getting rid of it. I could use the cash. This is the most valuable any of my comics has gotten (previously X-Men 268 was the highest price, AFAIK)
Curious to see how the trailer is - will watch it tonight.
posted by symbioid at 9:27 AM on August 6, 2015
Curious to see how the trailer is - will watch it tonight.
posted by symbioid at 9:27 AM on August 6, 2015
I don't understand this sentiment. The original material is PG-13 at best (at least by US standards.) I'm actually worried that the R will be taken as license to behave badly.
Yeah, fanboys were demanding R-rated Wolverine movies, but the definitive Wolverine comics that rocketed him into popularity -- the Claremont & Miller miniseries and Claremont & Byrne's run on X-Men -- were all PG-13 or milder.
posted by straight at 9:37 AM on August 6, 2015
Yeah, fanboys were demanding R-rated Wolverine movies, but the definitive Wolverine comics that rocketed him into popularity -- the Claremont & Miller miniseries and Claremont & Byrne's run on X-Men -- were all PG-13 or milder.
posted by straight at 9:37 AM on August 6, 2015
I've got my New Mutants 98 and it's going for 150-400 on ebay these days.
Shoot. I had that issue and traded it for some gobots.
posted by drezdn at 10:00 AM on August 6, 2015 [3 favorites]
Shoot. I had that issue and traded it for some gobots.
posted by drezdn at 10:00 AM on August 6, 2015 [3 favorites]
I have been waiting for this movie all of my life. It will be the greatest movie ever made. This is not hyperbole.
posted by Splunge at 10:11 AM on August 6, 2015 [1 favorite]
posted by Splunge at 10:11 AM on August 6, 2015 [1 favorite]
Meanwhile, Fox's other Marvel license, Fantastic Four, is currently at 12% on Rotten Tomatoes.
posted by 1970s Antihero at 10:19 AM on August 6, 2015
posted by 1970s Antihero at 10:19 AM on August 6, 2015
I have been waiting for this movie all of my life. It will be the greatest movie ever made. This is not hyperbole.
Do you want to know how I can tell you've never seen Jesus Christ: Vampire Hunter?
posted by ROU_Xenophobe at 10:20 AM on August 6, 2015 [3 favorites]
Do you want to know how I can tell you've never seen Jesus Christ: Vampire Hunter?
posted by ROU_Xenophobe at 10:20 AM on August 6, 2015 [3 favorites]
Tagline: "The Power of Christ Impales You."
posted by ricochet biscuit at 10:30 AM on August 6, 2015 [7 favorites]
posted by ricochet biscuit at 10:30 AM on August 6, 2015 [7 favorites]
I have been waiting for this movie all of my life. It will be the greatest movie ever made. This is not hyperbole.
Do you want to know how I can tell you've never seen Jesus Christ: Vampire Hunter?
Mad Max Fury Road, if we're now waving our fave movies' dicks around
posted by Windigo at 10:56 AM on August 6, 2015
Windigo: "I know nothing about Deadpool, though I love the MCU films. Tumblr told me that he's pansexual, sexually submissive, and enjoys dressing in womens' clothing. Is that all true? I like the idea of a genderfluid superhero and hope it is."
Not so much genderfluid as completely freaking unhinged. It's all about the motivation.
posted by Samizdata at 11:01 AM on August 6, 2015 [2 favorites]
Not so much genderfluid as completely freaking unhinged. It's all about the motivation.
posted by Samizdata at 11:01 AM on August 6, 2015 [2 favorites]
The key to Deadpool is that he's a tragicomic figure. I'm hoping they're just holding back on the tragedy in the trailers.
This really is the key to Deadpool. Fortunately it looks like the movie is based off the early Joe Kelly run, which had some dark, dark shit in Wade's life. While Deadpool can and does use plenty of goofy and light-hearted humor, he has to start dark in order to get lighter. As a character Deadpool works best written as a very damaged person who has experienced and done fucked-up things, and who backslides and improves over time but will never be 100% 'normal' mentally. But that's okay! He's comfortable with that!
A great/tragicomic thing about Deadpool is that as an archetype, he's built in the grimdark mercenary antihero loner mold. But as a character, he loves belonging with people and being part of a team, even when he's terrible at it, and he's hugely enthusiastic about saving the day and/or destroying public property as long as it means he can hang out with people. A semi-running gag for years was Deadpool trying wriggle his way onto one of the A-list teams by any method available. "Look out, that evil Sentinel wants to kill all mutants like us!" "You're not a mutant, Deadpool." "Gasp! What a terrible thing to say about one of your fellow X-Men!" "YOU'RE NOT AN X-MAN, DEADPOOL."
Deadpool fascinates me because he's the closest Marvel has to a pure, lasting Trickster figure the Marvel canon has, especially with Loki usually flipflopped between true villain or true hero.
posted by nicebookrack at 12:36 PM on August 6, 2015 [6 favorites]
This really is the key to Deadpool. Fortunately it looks like the movie is based off the early Joe Kelly run, which had some dark, dark shit in Wade's life. While Deadpool can and does use plenty of goofy and light-hearted humor, he has to start dark in order to get lighter. As a character Deadpool works best written as a very damaged person who has experienced and done fucked-up things, and who backslides and improves over time but will never be 100% 'normal' mentally. But that's okay! He's comfortable with that!
A great/tragicomic thing about Deadpool is that as an archetype, he's built in the grimdark mercenary antihero loner mold. But as a character, he loves belonging with people and being part of a team, even when he's terrible at it, and he's hugely enthusiastic about saving the day and/or destroying public property as long as it means he can hang out with people. A semi-running gag for years was Deadpool trying wriggle his way onto one of the A-list teams by any method available. "Look out, that evil Sentinel wants to kill all mutants like us!" "You're not a mutant, Deadpool." "Gasp! What a terrible thing to say about one of your fellow X-Men!" "YOU'RE NOT AN X-MAN, DEADPOOL."
Deadpool fascinates me because he's the closest Marvel has to a pure, lasting Trickster figure the Marvel canon has, especially with Loki usually flipflopped between true villain or true hero.
posted by nicebookrack at 12:36 PM on August 6, 2015 [6 favorites]
This is sort of a gamble:
-Casting a good looking male actor, but then for most of the film he's either going to be behind the mask or wearing scarred up face prosthetics
-Casting an actor who has sunk a couple of comic book films already
-Making a non-family friendly R Rated Comic book film (Yes there's 300, Sin City, and Kick Ass, but then there's the sequels to those films...)
-A comic book character that isn't recognized Internationally, so they might not be able to bank on the overseas box office to save them
The only plus is this is not a totally original film as this is connected to the X-Men Cinematic Universe. Maybe they'll have another big name X-Man actor (Stewart, Fassbender, Jackman) cameo other than Colossus?
posted by FJT at 1:11 PM on August 6, 2015
-Casting a good looking male actor, but then for most of the film he's either going to be behind the mask or wearing scarred up face prosthetics
-Casting an actor who has sunk a couple of comic book films already
-Making a non-family friendly R Rated Comic book film (Yes there's 300, Sin City, and Kick Ass, but then there's the sequels to those films...)
-A comic book character that isn't recognized Internationally, so they might not be able to bank on the overseas box office to save them
The only plus is this is not a totally original film as this is connected to the X-Men Cinematic Universe. Maybe they'll have another big name X-Man actor (Stewart, Fassbender, Jackman) cameo other than Colossus?
posted by FJT at 1:11 PM on August 6, 2015
Chris Evans cameo; Deadpool can't remember if he's named Johnny or Steve.
posted by nicebookrack at 2:51 PM on August 6, 2015
posted by nicebookrack at 2:51 PM on August 6, 2015
The director is already teasing that Cable could be the villain in a Deadpool sequel. Come to me, my C&D and Uncanny X-Force movies, come to meeeee!
I also hope that Negasonic Teenage Warhead is called by the full name Negasonic Teenage Warhead every time she is onscreen.
posted by nicebookrack at 3:01 PM on August 6, 2015 [1 favorite]
I also hope that Negasonic Teenage Warhead is called by the full name Negasonic Teenage Warhead every time she is onscreen.
posted by nicebookrack at 3:01 PM on August 6, 2015 [1 favorite]
If I have no prior knowledge of Deadpool, where is a good place to begin with the comics?
Actually, what's probably one of the best introductions to him isn't even the comics, but his guest appearance on the Ultimate Spider-Man animated series. Because it's aimed for a younger audience, they had to work at capturing the essence of the character without getting carried away by the usual excesses that his writers like to indulge in. And while Ultimate Spider-Man is its own corner of the Marvel Multiverse, with quirks that don't line up with their main comicbook line, or the various studio's movies, Marvel does make a point of using their various animated series as a way to bring new fans up to speed on what they need to know if they're going to be full time Marvel fans.
Unrelated to any of the above in this post, but a very good read:
Why Deadpool Is A Subversive Character, And How the Movie Could Get Him Right
posted by radwolf76 at 5:46 PM on August 6, 2015 [1 favorite]
Actually, what's probably one of the best introductions to him isn't even the comics, but his guest appearance on the Ultimate Spider-Man animated series. Because it's aimed for a younger audience, they had to work at capturing the essence of the character without getting carried away by the usual excesses that his writers like to indulge in. And while Ultimate Spider-Man is its own corner of the Marvel Multiverse, with quirks that don't line up with their main comicbook line, or the various studio's movies, Marvel does make a point of using their various animated series as a way to bring new fans up to speed on what they need to know if they're going to be full time Marvel fans.
Unrelated to any of the above in this post, but a very good read:
Why Deadpool Is A Subversive Character, And How the Movie Could Get Him Right
posted by radwolf76 at 5:46 PM on August 6, 2015 [1 favorite]
radwolf76, that's a fantastic essay, thanks! "How did this omnisexual, disabled, "ugly" hero get so popular?"
Amid all the grimdark and humor, I do hope that the movie touches in some way on Deadpool's weirdly-boundless capacity both for kindness and for calling out hypocrisy. One of the most powerful aspects of the excellent Uncanny X-Force run was the way that, in a book about a violent black ops murder team, mercenary Deadpool became the team conscience.
posted by nicebookrack at 6:43 PM on August 6, 2015 [5 favorites]
Amid all the grimdark and humor, I do hope that the movie touches in some way on Deadpool's weirdly-boundless capacity both for kindness and for calling out hypocrisy. One of the most powerful aspects of the excellent Uncanny X-Force run was the way that, in a book about a violent black ops murder team, mercenary Deadpool became the team conscience.
posted by nicebookrack at 6:43 PM on August 6, 2015 [5 favorites]
Enh, it's just not the same without "Angel of the Morning."
posted by homunculus at 10:51 PM on August 9, 2015
posted by homunculus at 10:51 PM on August 9, 2015
The creators of Cable & Deadpool will team up again for Deadpool & Cable: Split Second. My beloved bromance returns!
posted by nicebookrack at 11:38 AM on August 10, 2015
posted by nicebookrack at 11:38 AM on August 10, 2015
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