Cheney's secret service cache take the night off in San Diego ...
March 4, 2002 9:26 AM Subscribe
suprfli, wouldn't that be the Thecret Thervith?
posted by mr_crash_davis at 9:54 AM on March 4, 2002
posted by mr_crash_davis at 9:54 AM on March 4, 2002
So now we know why they were shopping for skateboard apparel in Park City, when they mislaid Cheney's itinerary.
posted by liam at 10:08 AM on March 4, 2002
posted by liam at 10:08 AM on March 4, 2002
Looks like they hit on some girl in a bar, her friends jumped them in the parking lot, and there was a good old fight. The Secret Service agents — all presumably armed — didn't let things get out of hand, and got out of there as quickly as possible once things got ugly.
The agents didn't "take the night off," they were off-duty and had been for three hours. It's all right if they go out together after work, isn't it?
Note to magullo: capitalize "Secret Service"; look up "cache" which doesn't mean what you think it does.
posted by nicwolff at 10:11 AM on March 4, 2002
The agents didn't "take the night off," they were off-duty and had been for three hours. It's all right if they go out together after work, isn't it?
Note to magullo: capitalize "Secret Service"; look up "cache" which doesn't mean what you think it does.
posted by nicwolff at 10:11 AM on March 4, 2002
i agree the writeup makes it sound worse than it is, i think they handled it ok, but remind me again why they are armed when off duty? that seems weird, i don't carry a microscope with me when i go clubbing... (and it's hard to kill someone with that anyway)
posted by rhyax at 10:17 AM on March 4, 2002
posted by rhyax at 10:17 AM on March 4, 2002
In general, law-enforcement officers go armed off duty on the principle that if there's a robbery and someone who knows them yells "Bob, you're a cop, do something" they're dead meat if they're not armed.
Obviously, this principle conflicts with their right as private citizens while off-duty to get fucked up in bars and hit on the local chicks. There's a compromise principle taught to every law-enforcement officer, which they call "higher standard of care": they're not allowed to start a fight, and if one starts anyway they're not allowed to escalate it by drawing or showing their guns.
Sounds like these agents followed that rule.
posted by nicwolff at 10:26 AM on March 4, 2002
Obviously, this principle conflicts with their right as private citizens while off-duty to get fucked up in bars and hit on the local chicks. There's a compromise principle taught to every law-enforcement officer, which they call "higher standard of care": they're not allowed to start a fight, and if one starts anyway they're not allowed to escalate it by drawing or showing their guns.
Sounds like these agents followed that rule.
posted by nicwolff at 10:26 AM on March 4, 2002
Shannon Larson, 24, told the newspaper three agents made "rude comments" to her in the bar. After it closed, one of the agents invited her to a hot-tub party, an offer Larson said she declined.
Who still has hot tub parties? I thought that went out with conversation pits and key swapping.
posted by haqspan at 10:58 AM on March 4, 2002
Who still has hot tub parties? I thought that went out with conversation pits and key swapping.
posted by haqspan at 10:58 AM on March 4, 2002
Cheney has way more trouble than just his bad ticker, if his Secret Service fellas can't handle a bunch of local sufers.
No wonder he was in hiding from 9/11-11/11.
posted by tsarfan at 11:35 AM on March 4, 2002
No wonder he was in hiding from 9/11-11/11.
posted by tsarfan at 11:35 AM on March 4, 2002
Cheney doesn't need no Secret Service agents. His nasty scowl scares even the nastiest of thugs away.
posted by gyc at 11:52 AM on March 4, 2002
posted by gyc at 11:52 AM on March 4, 2002
Magullo, could you clarify what a secret service cache is? Did you possibly mean cadre?
posted by Lynsey at 12:38 PM on March 4, 2002
posted by Lynsey at 12:38 PM on March 4, 2002
(or attache)
At any rate, this would seem like just so many sour grapes, were it not for the SS losing Cheney's itinerary _and_ getting in another scuffle down in Provo -- both during the last three weeks.
I mean... what, they come out west and lose all sense of decorum?
posted by silusGROK at 12:51 PM on March 4, 2002
At any rate, this would seem like just so many sour grapes, were it not for the SS losing Cheney's itinerary _and_ getting in another scuffle down in Provo -- both during the last three weeks.
I mean... what, they come out west and lose all sense of decorum?
posted by silusGROK at 12:51 PM on March 4, 2002
wheww... just think if the Agents had been drinking...
posted by clavdivs at 12:54 PM on March 4, 2002
posted by clavdivs at 12:54 PM on March 4, 2002
tsfaran,
As a surfer I resent that remark. Be at Sunset Cliffs 4 pm. Shortboards and no leashes:)
posted by keithl at 1:55 PM on March 4, 2002
As a surfer I resent that remark. Be at Sunset Cliffs 4 pm. Shortboards and no leashes:)
posted by keithl at 1:55 PM on March 4, 2002
tsfaran,
As a surfer originally from Encinitas (though I wouldnt be caught dead at the Double Daley) I also resent that remark. Be at Swami's at 6 pm.
posted by vacapinta at 5:01 PM on March 4, 2002
As a surfer originally from Encinitas (though I wouldnt be caught dead at the Double Daley) I also resent that remark. Be at Swami's at 6 pm.
posted by vacapinta at 5:01 PM on March 4, 2002
i think they handled it ok, but remind me again why they are armed
It wasn't the guns! One of the agents bit a piece of another guy's ear off! I don't think the victim of that was impressed with how ok they handled it...
posted by Zurishaddai at 8:14 PM on March 4, 2002
It wasn't the guns! One of the agents bit a piece of another guy's ear off! I don't think the victim of that was impressed with how ok they handled it...
posted by Zurishaddai at 8:14 PM on March 4, 2002
I meant cadre or attache and I guess should keep my hands off the keyboard on those special Mondays when I've slept less than 3 hours the previous night. Sorry about that.
posted by magullo at 1:27 AM on March 5, 2002
posted by magullo at 1:27 AM on March 5, 2002
Security plans left in a store, getting in bar brawls... omigod, surely it means that the Vice-President is expendable!... :-)
posted by clevershark at 8:57 PM on March 5, 2002
posted by clevershark at 8:57 PM on March 5, 2002
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posted by suprfli at 9:40 AM on March 4, 2002