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Post number 15328

AsiaInsider — Wed, 06 Mar 2002 17:35:56 -0800

China hopes to make a great leap forward in Stem Cell Research Does anyone else find this a little troubling? Are all the clones going to look like Jiang Zemin?

By: gazingus

gazingus — Wed, 06 Mar 2002 18:02:59 -0800

So does the cloning lab's centrifuge constitute a cultural revolution? *rimshot*

By: five fresh fish

five fresh fish — Wed, 06 Mar 2002 18:10:30 -0800

[groan!]

By: malphigian

malphigian — Wed, 06 Mar 2002 18:10:35 -0800

I know you're only joking around (at least, I think so*), but unfortunately its the people who actually think that way who are condemning people in need of transplants to die, and the paralyzed never to walk again. Stem cell research is NOT about cloning copies of yourself, although you wouldn't know it from media coverage. From paragraph 2: Their intention is not to copy human beings, but create genetically matched cells to make tissues for transplant patients and for research. *The idea that the chinese government would be doing something nefarious to _increase_ their population is preposterious even by the weak standards of conspiracy theory.

By: rhyax

rhyax — Wed, 06 Mar 2002 18:16:23 -0800

i find it troubling that we are putting a halt to some key discoveries based on some people's misguided sense of morality. i also find it troubling in a way that we will be passed by other countries in this area even though we are currently leading the field. on a positive side at least all of humanity doesn't share our limited viewpoint and the research will get done somewhere

By: rhyax

rhyax — Wed, 06 Mar 2002 18:21:29 -0800

oh, and i really have to say it, humans actually have a cheaper way to make more humans than cloning, we've nearly perfected it in fact.

By: delmoi

delmoi — Wed, 06 Mar 2002 18:26:19 -0800

Well, what I troubling is the idiotic paranoia keeping that stuff from being worked on and developed here. Someone needs to do it.

By: five fresh fish

five fresh fish — Wed, 06 Mar 2002 18:40:20 -0800

Rhyax: Who's the "we" ('in a way that we will be passed') that you refer to? What leads you to believe that "we" is a leader in the field? Just curious...

By: treywhit

treywhit — Wed, 06 Mar 2002 18:48:23 -0800

Hooray for the Chinese! Superman rejoices!

By: wackybrit

wackybrit — Wed, 06 Mar 2002 19:37:37 -0800

Of course they'll all look like Jiang Zemin. Everyone knows that all Chinese people look the same anyway.

By: skallas

skallas — Wed, 06 Mar 2002 20:05:17 -0800

What's with the China bashing here? This isn't the first thread that mentions what "they" will do. I remember the last thread about some archeology and lots of disparaging remarks about Chinese academics. Sure, everyone has issues with their government, but its a pretty poor outlook to view a people soley by their government. How would you like to be judged by the actions of your government? I mean, kudos to the mass media machine. We have evil, evil enemies and we're buying the agitprop in varying degrees. [thread hijacking over]

By: AsiaInsider

AsiaInsider — Wed, 06 Mar 2002 21:55:08 -0800

Its not that China is bad or evil ( I don't think it is) but its just that they have a terrible record of not using technology wisely or with much regards for the after effects. You know that the guy who cloned Dolly has just moved to Singapore....

By: vbfg

vbfg — Thu, 07 Mar 2002 00:52:42 -0800

... which is not in China.

By: kliuless

kliuless — Thu, 07 Mar 2002 06:49:25 -0800

but THEY RULE singapore.

By: vbfg

vbfg — Thu, 07 Mar 2002 07:46:15 -0800

Errrr, no they don't. There are ethnic Chinese people in Singapore. There are ethnic Chinese people in Hong Kong. Hong Kong used to be part of the British Empire. Singapore used to be part of the British Empire. The Japanese captured Hong Kong in an embarrassingly easy manner. The Japanese captured Singapore in an embarrassingly easy manner. Singapore is known for being a city built from nothing and a centre of international trade. Hong Kong is known as a city built from nothing and a centre of international trade. Hong Kong is part of the Chinese mainland. Singapore is at the bottom of the Malay peninsula. The Chinese rule Hong Kong. The Singaporeans rule Singapore. Subtle, but certainly different.

By: kliuless

kliuless — Thu, 07 Mar 2002 07:51:12 -0800

like THEY RULE the philippines. sorry, just j/k :) you're right of course!

By: AsiaInsider

AsiaInsider — Thu, 07 Mar 2002 09:06:27 -0800

Actually, the Fukinese Chinese economically and politically rule Singapore since they are the dominant ethnic group. Fukinese economically rule Indonesia, Malaysia, Philippines and also...Taiwan. Thailand's Tochou Chinese have intermarried with the royal family of Thailand and own much of the businesses in Bangkok as well. So Yes, Singapore is not China..but its within the Chinese Sphere of influence. Not saying that that is bad...just the reality of the economic power structure of SE Asia.

By: homunculus

homunculus — Thu, 07 Mar 2002 13:04:35 -0800

You know that the guy who cloned Dolly has just moved to Singapore... I didn't know that. Is he working for a university or a private company? Is there a brain drain towards Asia already undwerway?

By: AsiaInsider

AsiaInsider — Thu, 07 Mar 2002 18:57:26 -0800

Yes dolly dude is here?