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	<pubDate>Tue, 12 Mar 2002 16:52:23 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Post number 15467</title>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&amp;u=/nm/20020312/en_nm/people_ryder_dc_4&amp;cid=579"&gt;Winona Ryder Tape exonerates her?&lt;/a&gt; Apparently the tape shows nothing about Winona Ryder removing security tags, contrary to what police said about it.  Also, her attourney makes a really cheesy &lt;i&gt;Girl Interrupted&lt;/i&gt; joke.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Mar 2002 16:50:41 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>trioperative</dc:creator>		<category>winonaryder</category>		<category>shoplifting</category>		<category>attorney</category>		<category>security</category>		<category>securitytapes</category>
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		<title>By: BlueTrain</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/15467/#241340</link>	
		<description>See &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/mefi/13107&quot;&gt;this thread &lt;/a&gt;for original discussion...</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Mar 2002 16:52:23 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>BlueTrain</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: BlueTrain</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/15467/#241345</link>	
		<description>Hehe, now that I&apos;m here, see &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/mefi/15341&quot;&gt;this thread &lt;/a&gt;for why trusting news stories immediately following arrests are not a good idea. See, we have defense lawyers for a reason.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Mar 2002 16:59:19 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Sinner</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/15467/#241355</link>	
		<description>I&apos;m not proud of it, but I watched entertainment tonight (or some such) and they showed the tape.  She did look pretty innocent.  

Free Winona, indeed.

Where&apos;s my t-shirt?</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Mar 2002 17:27:11 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Sinner</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: spilon</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/15467/#241469</link>	
		<description>Well, I likes me some Winona, that&apos;s for sure. So naturally I don&apos;t think she&apos;s ever done anything worse than make a few boring movies and yoko-ize a few mediocre rock bands... but still, she needs to fire that lawyer for bad joke-making, that&apos;s for sure.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Mar 2002 20:53:54 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: UncleFes</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/15467/#241474</link>	
		<description>I haven&apos;t seen it, but the local news here suggested that, well, you can&apos;t see her slicing off security tags and other assorted associated-with-thieving activities, but she was still obviously making off with a giant bag of unpaid-for goodies. No?</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Mar 2002 21:10:49 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: kliuless</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/15467/#241517</link>	
		<description>yeah, but &quot;In addition, a clerk is seen bustling in and out of Ryder&apos;s dressing room, finally returning with a credit card receipt, the Times reported.&quot;

fuck the PD!</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Mar 2002 22:40:14 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mack Twain</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/15467/#241528</link>	
		<description>I saw the tape...she was obviously stoned out of her mind as she shopped for over an hour and walked out the  front door without paying. She will end up copping a plea to some lesser offense.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Mar 2002 23:33:56 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mack Twain</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: ZachsMind</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/15467/#241529</link>	
		<description>Sinner? &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.freewinona.com&quot;&gt;Here&apos;s your T-Shirt&lt;/a&gt;. What the heck did &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.yque.com/freeadamant.html&quot;&gt;Adam Ant&lt;/a&gt; do? I&apos;m completely out of the loop. 

&lt;i&gt;&quot;At one point in the tape, according to the Times, the price tag of a hat Ryder tries on is clearly visible when she enters a dressing room but no longer visible when she leaves the dressing room.&quot;&lt;/i&gt; 

She could have absent-mindedly ripped that thing off because on hats they&apos;re annoying. She may have also been thinking five finger discount with some of the merchandise. It&apos;s plausible she was buying some of the stuff and purloined the rest thinking &quot;free gift thank you for shopping with us.&quot; How can one prove that either way? Innocent mistake or purposeful shoplifting? It&apos;s a he said/she said thing. I&apos;d hate to be the judge there. 

&lt;i&gt;&quot;In addition, a clerk is seen bustling in and out of Ryder&apos;s dressing room, finally returning with a credit card receipt, the Times reported.&quot;&lt;/i&gt; 

Okay now I&apos;m confused. So was she stealing or not? yeah yeah this&apos;ll be decided in court and not the media,  but the accusations just don&apos;t mesh with the videotape? 

Stoned? Probably. I have difficulty believing anyone could be that thin and not be on something other than food. However, if she got a credit card receipt from a clerk, maybe she was paying for at least part of this stuff as she went along, rather than going up to a cash register like &lt;i&gt;normal people&lt;/i&gt; do. Maybe she left thinking she&apos;d paid for all of it, but the clerk didn&apos;t catch everything that she thought she had? 

This is just warped. What&apos;s even more warped is that Ryder&apos;s THIRTY YEARS OLD? Geez! Do celebrities get older faster than normal people? I swear it feels like yesterday that she was &lt;a href=&quot;http://us.imdb.com/Details?0097493&quot;&gt;eighteen&lt;/a&gt;! I still have the fantasy that someday I&apos;ll have the opportunity to be rejected by Winona Ryder, but at the rate time is moving I&apos;ll be lucky if it happens in an old folks&apos; home. Time dizzily spins around me and I feel like I&apos;m gonna boot!</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Mar 2002 23:54:54 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>ZachsMind</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: vbfg</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/15467/#241568</link>	
		<description>Winona Ryder *is* ageing faster than me. We were the same age at about ET time, now she has two years on me. For &quot;*is*&quot; it depends on what your definition of the word &quot;*is*&quot; is. 

As for Adam Ant, he went &lt;a href=&quot;http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/england/newsid_1758000/1758819.stm&quot;&gt;a bit doo-lally flip&lt;/a&gt; which is apparantly a crime these days. He was sectioned. This is the polite way of saying he was thrown in a cell before he hurt himself, someone else or started a riot somewhere along the way. 

He&apos;s free now though I&apos;m sure. I can&apos;t find a link to it but I&apos;m sure I saw him on the news recently being bundled into the back of a car leaving court or some other news worthy place.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2002 04:08:42 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: elpapacito</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/15467/#241969</link>	
		<description>But please tell me...why do you CARE about what happens to Winona ? Are you relatives ?</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2002 17:05:47 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ZachsMind</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/15467/#242239</link>	
		<description>El Papacito, I still wanna get rejected by her someday, preferably at some film wrap party where I managed to get a bit part by some whim of fate. However, I can&apos;t ever get rejected by Winona Ryder if she lands her sorry ass in jail. Really, my concern for Ryder is a selfish thing. *smirk*</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Mar 2002 06:56:25 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>ZachsMind</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: vbfg</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/15467/#242261</link>	
		<description>Rik: I want to protect her.

Vivian: Is that what you call it?

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.zombienation.force9.co.uk/film/cult/youngone/young.html&quot;&gt;(C) The Young Ones&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Mar 2002 07:28:46 -0800</pubDate>
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