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	<pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2002 19:58:25 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Post number 15687</title>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.startrek.net/"&gt;StarTrek.net&lt;/a&gt; is &lt;a href=&quot;http://cgi.earthlink.net/joinnow/startrek/?RN=400065510&quot; title=&quot;link to info for startrek.net&quot;&gt;offering&lt;/a&gt; internet access (care of EarthLink), your own StarTrek.net email address with anti-spam service, and exclusive Star Trek content, as well as a few other &quot;goodies&quot;, all for 21.95 USD a month. Destined to be huge, or will this fizzle and eventually disappear?</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2002 19:49:43 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>mikhail</dc:creator>		<category>startrek</category>		<category>isp</category>		<category>internet</category>		<category>internetserviceprovider</category>		<category>startrek.net</category>
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		<title>By: crankydoodle</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/15687/#246000</link>	
		<description>Now I like Star Trek as much as the next guy (or gal), but would I sign up for this?  Probably not...  It&apos;s sure to get singups, but I doubt that it will be huge.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2002 19:58:25 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: madmanz123</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/15687/#246008</link>	
		<description>The cool part is this probably costs almost nothing to run. Just a good way to promote Earthlink and Star Trek.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2002 20:19:15 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Settle</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/15687/#246010</link>	
		<description>This is just yet another novelty isp. Annnnnnnnnnnnother.


Yes, I was just testing the key repeat rate.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2002 20:30:14 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Settle</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: skallas</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/15687/#246021</link>	
		<description>Remember the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.epinions.com/cmsw-ISP-All-The_Simpsons_com&quot;&gt;Simpsons Free ISP&lt;/a&gt;? Me neither.

Are novelty ISPs really bad ideas?  A little while ago I was doing the math on how much money and how much effort would go into a small (1,000 modem bank) dial-up ISP and what the profits would look like.   Its not bad, if you can get customers and are prepared to scale up, but what is going to drive people off of AOL and MSN other than being a couple dollars cheaper?  Novelty.  Like say an ISP that contributes a few hundred a month to some charity or organization.  Everyone can vote once a month and pick who they want the money going to.  Or perhaps the novelty of having a cool sounding email address.  

I really don&apos;t think this is good marketing.  In the end, I think most people are a lot more comfortable with a big nationwide ISP than dealing with the local guy with a gimmick, unless the local guy can do something truly magical like provide decent access for under $10 a month and still stay in business.

Startrek.net has earthlink to keep it afloat and even I have a novelty email address I sure many would kill for (no I wont say what it is) even though I&apos;m not a fanboy of any sort.  I think this thing might actually do well, as long as people know Earthlink is behind it all.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2002 21:02:15 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>skallas</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: skallas</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/15687/#246022</link>	
		<description>Also, startrek.net is the same price as Earthlink service.  Still a pricey $21.95 per month, but having no premium over standard service is going to attract a lot of hesitant Earthlink trekkies.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2002 21:07:16 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>skallas</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: delmoi</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/15687/#246025</link>	
		<description>spam free email?

Any idea how it works?</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2002 21:12:21 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Satapher</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/15687/#246028</link>	
		<description>star trek sucks.

(my only function here is to add pointless negative commentary, because hey, its good to hear all sides and opinions eh?)</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2002 21:26:40 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Satapher</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: pmurray63</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/15687/#246031</link>	
		<description>As a current EarthLink customer, I can tell you that it&apos;s not &quot;spam-free,&quot; but it is a major improvement and one reason I have stuck with them. The filtering service is provided by &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.brightmail.com/&quot;&gt;Brightmail&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2002 21:33:02 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: rhizome23</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/15687/#246032</link>	
		<description>Rest assured, Satapher, that your contributions are highly valued.
Even when they suck.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2002 21:34:10 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>rhizome23</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Ufez Jones</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/15687/#246043</link>	
		<description>Hotmail has been offering spam-filters for quite a while now.  It works pretty well (i&apos;d say about 80% of spam goes in my junk mail folder while maybe 5% of the real e-mails i get wind up in there).  And it&apos;s FREE.  Anyone who would pay that much just for an e-mail address needs a serious lesson from &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.socsci.mcmaster.ca/~econ/ugcm/3ll3/veblen/&quot;&gt;Thorstein Veblen&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2002 22:02:05 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ufez Jones</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Ufez Jones</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/15687/#246044</link>	
		<description>Okay, didn&apos;t read the post carefully.  Sorry.  Still, i refuse to pay that much for a dial-up ISP anyways.  find a nice $12/month local server, and you&apos;re better off anyway.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2002 22:09:32 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ufez Jones</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: rhizome23</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/15687/#246047</link>	
		<description>cool link though, Ufez.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2002 22:26:06 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: pmurray63</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/15687/#246308</link>	
		<description>Who said I was paying $21.95 a month? Not me. I have a plan that EarthLink doesn&apos;t advertise: $9.95 for five hours. That way I get the mailbox with spam filtering and nationwide dial-up access for when I&apos;m on the road.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Mar 2002 09:32:48 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: joaquim</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/15687/#246330</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20020210&amp;mode=classic&quot;&gt;My favorite commentary&lt;/a&gt; on the StarTrek ISP.  (The strips following this day&apos;s cartoon are pretty good, too.)</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Mar 2002 10:06:42 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: tdismukes</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/15687/#246348</link>	
		<description>skallas - &lt;i&gt;&quot;something truly magical like provide decent access for under $10 a month and still stay in business.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

The local ISP I use costs $99 a &lt;b&gt;year&lt;/b&gt; and provides better service than I used to get with MSN or Prodigy.  Shop around, you might find something good.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Mar 2002 10:39:43 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>tdismukes</dc:creator>
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