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	<title>Comments on: Comments on 15756</title>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 22 Mar 2002 21:26:34 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Post number 15756</title>
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		<description>If you grew up in or around New England you&apos;re probably familiar with a carbonated concoction called &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.xensei.com/users/iraseski/&quot;&gt;Moxie&lt;/a&gt;. Tastewise, it&apos;s kind of a love or hate deal and I fall squarely in the love camp. And I&apos;m &lt;a href=&quot;http://moxieworld.com/trademrk.htm&quot;&gt;not&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.reed.edu/~mcneilc/makeminemoxie.html&quot;&gt;alone&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bdragon.com/moxie/moxie.shtml&quot;&gt; apparently&lt;/a&gt;. The history of the product is actually pretty interesting. For those whose thirst has been stoked, here&apos;s a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.clede.com/Moxie.htm&quot;&gt;list&lt;/a&gt; places to get it.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Mar 2002 21:24:13 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jonmc</dc:creator>		<category>moxie</category>		<category>drinks</category>		<category>sodas</category>		<category>pop</category>		<category>beverages</category>		<category>food</category>		<category>newengland</category>
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		<title>By: jpoulos</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/15756/#247522</link>	
		<description>FYI, Moxie made a brief appearance at MeFi, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/mefi/7654&quot;&gt;last year&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Mar 2002 21:26:34 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jonmc</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/15756/#247523</link>	
		<description>oops, I swear I searched.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Mar 2002 21:28:54 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: hincandenza</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/15756/#247525</link>	
		<description>Moxie is positively noxious stuff, how can you possibly drink it?  It tastes like someone used an empty soda can as their chewing tobacco spitoon, shook it up, and re-sealed it.  Good lord, just thinking of the stuff makes me ill....</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Mar 2002 21:31:46 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jonmc</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/15756/#247528</link>	
		<description>Maybe being a smoker, I like the spitoon taste, hincandenza, I dunno, it grows on you somehow like dark beer or blue cheese.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Mar 2002 21:36:29 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: yhbc</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/15756/#247529</link>	
		<description>warning - annoying music on first link.

That said: Oh god, Moxie. When I first came to New England, I tried so hard to fit in - I ordered coffee &quot;regular&quot;, I asked for &quot;quah-tahs&quot; to put in the pool table, I even got used to brown eggs.

Moxie&apos;s different.

As the links point out, only Maine-ahs now drink Moxie in any volume.

I&apos;ll take New England and it&apos;s oddities. I&apos;ll even take Maine, to an extent, but as for Moxie, &quot;Ya can&apos;t they-ah from he-ah&quot;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Mar 2002 21:38:38 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: pjdoland</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/15756/#247531</link>	
		<description>As far as taste is concerned:

Coke is to Pepsi
As Pepsi is to RC
As RC is to Moxie

It sounds strange but trust me.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Mar 2002 21:50:35 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: evanizer</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/15756/#247533</link>	
		<description>Moxie! Moxie reminds me of Marmite, a sharp-tasting brown substance that an old New Zealand friend of mine used to eat. That&apos;s another one of them &apos;love it or hate it&apos; substances. I&apos;m trying to think of other foods like that, but I can only think of cilantro and BlackJack gum. Oh! And the New York equivalent of Moxie, Dr. Brown&apos;s Cel-Ray soda. Celery flavoured soda? Eeek!

There&apos;s a beautiful old Moxie advertising display in the vestible of the New York Historical Society, for those that visit there.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Mar 2002 21:54:10 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: yhbc</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/15756/#247535</link>	
		<description>&lt;small&gt;please insert &quot;git&quot; between &quot;can&apos;t&quot; and &quot;they-ah&quot; for the proper stereotypical Maine phrase&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Mar 2002 22:01:18 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jazon</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/15756/#247538</link>	
		<description>Who&apos;s got Moxie?  &lt;a href=http://www.popsoda.com&gt;PopSoda&lt;/a&gt;&apos;s got Moxie!

&lt;a href=http://www.popsoda.com/moxieoriginal.html&gt;Original&lt;/a&gt;,  &lt;a href=http://www.popsoda.com/moxchercol.html&gt;Cherry&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=http://www.popsoda.com/moxiecreamsoda.html&gt;Cream&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Mar 2002 22:18:29 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: crasspastor</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/15756/#247539</link>	
		<description>You&apos;ve gotta lotta moxie kid (insert grrr onomatopoeia within the mmm in &apos;moxie&apos;).

I&apos;ve been saying that obsessively for weeks now.  I had to write that for my own mental well being.

Oh yeah, what&apos;s that from?</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Mar 2002 22:18:56 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: boogah</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/15756/#247540</link>	
		<description>&lt;b&gt;kinda off-topic, but it may be of interest:&lt;/b&gt; i used to contract for a girl&apos;s magazine called &lt;i&gt;moxie girl&lt;/i&gt; [since folded] that had to change it&apos;s name to &lt;i&gt;mxg&lt;/i&gt; because of the afformentioned beverage.  even after moxie&apos;s lawyers made them change their name they started collecting moxie memoribilia and i even got to taste some of the utterly foul beverage when someone had it imported for kicks.

i guess it&apos;s what people would consider an &quot;acquired taste&quot;...</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Mar 2002 22:19:06 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: StOne</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/15756/#247542</link>	
		<description>Never tried Moxie, having never been to where it&apos;s sold. But Abbie Hoffman loved the stuff.
Surely it can&apos;t be worse than Yoo Hoo.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Mar 2002 22:43:29 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: riffola</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/15756/#247543</link>	
		<description>My sis sent me some Yoo Hoos in &apos;99, I used to trade one Yoo-Hoo for 2 Coke cans. I never liked the stuff, and there were plenty of upstate and north country New Yorkers to trade with.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Mar 2002 23:06:51 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: planetkyoto</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/15756/#247546</link>	
		<description>Well, I&apos;ve been looking for a nerve food that would take care of my brain exhaustion, loss of manhood and imbecility...

(claims made on original Moxie label):
&lt;b&gt;Contains not a drop of Medicine, Poison, Stimulant or Alcohol. But is a simple sugarcane-like plant grown near the Equator and farther south, was lately accidentally discovered by Lieut. Moxie and has proved itself to be the only harmless nerve food known that can recover brain and nervous exhaustion, loss of manhood, imbecility and helplessness. It has recovered paralysis, softening of the brain, locomotor ataxia, and insanity when caused by nervous exhaustion. It gives a durable solid strength, makes you eat voraciously, takes away the tired, sleepy, listless feeling like magic, removes fatigue from mental and physical over work at once, will not interfere with action of vegetable medicines. &lt;/b&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Mar 2002 00:24:55 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Kevs</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/15756/#247551</link>	
		<description>If you&apos;re from New England and want the *best* of the local soda, pick up a Black Cherry Mad River.  Damned intoxicating.  I remember going to &quot;Moxie Days&quot; in some small Maine town (Scarborough? I&apos;m not sure now), where they turned the whole town into one of those fairs in small New England towns that don&apos;t require a separate fairgrounds.  

Can&apos;t say the soda is all too good, though.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Mar 2002 01:05:14 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: SteveInMaine</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/15756/#247560</link>	
		<description>Kev: Moxie days is in &lt;a href=&quot;http://moxiedaysfestival.freeyellow.com/home.html&quot;&gt;Lisbon Maine,&lt;/a&gt; chummy.  Being from &quot;away&quot; myself, I had to try it. Once. Kinda tastes to me how I imagine coal tar would taste. Ayup.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Mar 2002 02:02:07 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: crunchland</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/15756/#247572</link>	
		<description>yuck.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Mar 2002 04:35:52 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: j.edwards</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/15756/#247573</link>	
		<description>Oh, this is eerie.  A friend of mine just found out what Moxie was and I had to explain the history of it to him.

Moxie is evil, but it&apos;s a good evil, like Tab.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Mar 2002 04:49:05 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dong_resin</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/15756/#247579</link>	
		<description>Moxie is like carpet tacks dipped in brown sugar and bile, which are then inserted under each eyelid.

I&apos;m a fan.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Mar 2002 05:52:06 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: briank</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/15756/#247595</link>	
		<description>The only thing more noxious than Moxie is Diet Moxie (with saccharine, not NutraSweet).  They don&apos;t even make it any more, although it was probably good as a paint remover.

When I was very little, I actually liked Moxie, but cannot stand the stuff now.

The Moxie Festival in Lisbon Falls ought to be more interesting this year, now that &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.briankaneonline.com/archive/000203.html#000203&quot;&gt;all the aliens from Area 51 have relocated to the old mill&lt;/a&gt;. (yes, that&apos;s a self-link)</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Mar 2002 06:50:45 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: anathema</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/15756/#247599</link>	
		<description>Ah, where do I start. I was born way up north in Maine and I think Moxie is in my blood. After living all over the country I moved back to Maine in 1997 and now I am living in NH. Moxie has a weird power over people. I have seen folks from California load up station wagons full of the stuff to haul back. There are about 6-8 Moxie drinkers where I am going to school right now including myself. We even have it in the Coke&#8482; machine. 
I do admit that it tastes a bit like rust at first...but give it time. I have been skimming through Vol. 1 of the Moxie encyclopedia for the last few months and it is actually a pretty interesting history. 
The yearly celebration in Lisbon Falls is, I am told, incredible. I have known two people in the past few years whose sisters have been the honorary Moxie Girl. Moxie is the primordial soda...it came first, and was also the first pop to be mass marketed. What a great post to wake up to on a Saturday morning.
There are a million ways to drink it. After you get used to it (which you will) I recommend trying it with a shot of heavy cream.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Mar 2002 07:03:15 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ClydeCrashcup</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/15756/#247617</link>	
		<description>briank, Diet Moxie is alive and well. I buy it in huge quantities  every summer at Cronig&apos;s Up-Island on the Vineyard. Can&apos;t remember whether it&apos;s sweetened with saccharine or Nutra-Sweet, though. Gentian root is the thing that makes it so bitter, though. Moxie is definitely old New England. I don&apos;t think I&apos;ve ever seen it anywhere else.

And for the nay-sayers: I&apos;m sure you all &lt;i&gt;loved&lt;/i&gt; your first beer, too. Show some character.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Mar 2002 08:09:51 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jonmc</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/15756/#247626</link>	
		<description>Moxie makes an interesting cocktail mixer, too. I mixed it with Bacardi, just for the hell of it once. Not for the faint of heart, but nice in a back porch drinkin&apos; kinda way. 
I &lt;i&gt;did&lt;/i&gt; love my first beer, Clyde.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Mar 2002 08:31:55 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: riffola</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/15756/#247634</link>	
		<description>I hate the fact that Coke stopped making Surge for the New England area, it was much better than Mountain Dew.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Mar 2002 09:12:15 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: five fresh fish</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/15756/#247648</link>	
		<description>I wonder if there&apos;s a market for micro-sodas, just like there is for micro-beers...</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Mar 2002 10:07:32 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jonmc</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/15756/#247651</link>	
		<description>fff - There definitely is, especially for root beer, once you&apos;ve tried &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.virgils.com/&quot;&gt;Virgil&apos;s&lt;/a&gt; A&amp;amp;W just wont cut it-although I still have a soft spot for &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.popsoda.com/hiresrootbeer.html&quot;&gt; Hires&lt;/a&gt;.

Actually, whenever I&apos;m visiting someplace, if I see a soft drink I haven&apos;t seen before I&apos;ll buy a bottle, which has led me to some neat stuff.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Mar 2002 10:16:31 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: davidgentle</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/15756/#247671</link>	
		<description>Marmite is British. It is very popular here.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Mar 2002 11:05:09 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: kindall</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/15756/#247674</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;I wonder if there&apos;s a market for micro-sodas, just like there is for micro-beers...&lt;/i&gt;

Well, there are plenty of such things available -- Jones Soda for instance. I have no idea if anyone&apos;s actually buying it (I never have), but I see Jones and other brands in the stores out here.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Mar 2002 11:20:38 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dong_resin</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/15756/#247682</link>	
		<description>As far as gross soda goes, you&apos;d be hard pressed to beat Scotland&apos;s own &lt;i&gt;Iron Bru&lt;/i&gt;.

I don&apos;t know what sort of market research leads to carbonated cyanide with a dash of ear wax, but I&apos;m guessing a gas leak was involved.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Mar 2002 11:42:15 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: j.edwards</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/15756/#247707</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;I have no idea if anyone&apos;s actually buying it &lt;/i&gt;

Jones rules!  No, it actually does.  I purchase it regularly, as to several people I know.  Also, at least in the Seattle area, the Boylan Bottling Company is alive and well producing fine sodas, along with the venerable Thomas Kemper.

I&apos;m..  Um...  A soda buff.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Mar 2002 12:34:45 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: anathema</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/15756/#247759</link>	
		<description>My fiance is hooked on &lt;a href=&quot;http://theacf.com/blenheim/&quot;&gt;this stuff&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Mar 2002 15:22:58 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dhacker</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/15756/#247784</link>	
		<description>I successfully avoided Moxie for all of my eight years in Maine. Actually, I had one sip once and that did it for me. Here in Western Massachusetts we&apos;ve got our own locally brewed soda&apos;s called Squeeze. I was going to do one of those Zagat type links - some like it, some don&apos;t - but all I could find was the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bevnet.com/reviews/squeeze/&quot;&gt; we don&apos;t like it at all&lt;/a&gt; link. Really, its not that bad.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Mar 2002 16:52:07 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dhacker</title>
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		<description>I meant to add a link to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bevnet.com/reviews/&quot;&gt;this page&lt;/a&gt;, a fairly complete listing of micro beverages available.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Mar 2002 16:55:14 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>dhacker</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: geneablogy</title>
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		<description>Last time we were in New England, we picked up a couple of bottles of Moxie. My fiancee loved the idea of the drink. Then we got home.

Gawd, what vile stuff!

I tried, really I did. That bottle sat in the refrigerator for months.

I don&apos;t mind &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dpsu.com/brands_vernors.html&quot;&gt;a good spicy soft drink&lt;/a&gt;, but damn, Moxie tastes awful....</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Mar 2002 22:44:01 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>geneablogy</dc:creator>
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