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April 19, 2016 7:42 PM Subscribe
I was expecting some kind of recurrence of the NRA's previous support for gun control motivated by Black Panthers carrying rifles.
This... was a complete surprise.
posted by Rangi at 8:17 PM on April 19, 2016
This... was a complete surprise.
posted by Rangi at 8:17 PM on April 19, 2016
Samantha Bee is a national treasure.
posted by IAmUnaware at 8:22 PM on April 19, 2016 [8 favorites]
posted by IAmUnaware at 8:22 PM on April 19, 2016 [8 favorites]
The only way to stop a bad guy with a stupid costume is a good guy with a stupid costume.
posted by leotrotsky at 8:33 PM on April 19, 2016 [2 favorites]
posted by leotrotsky at 8:33 PM on April 19, 2016 [2 favorites]
Why at 2:54 is her producer's face blurred? Did they forget to get her consent?
posted by little onion at 8:41 PM on April 19, 2016
posted by little onion at 8:41 PM on April 19, 2016
Her producer is the unabomber.
posted by beerperson at 8:45 PM on April 19, 2016
posted by beerperson at 8:45 PM on April 19, 2016
Why at 2:54 is her producer's face blurred? Did they forget to get her consent?
My first thought would be for her safety and protection from enraged gun owners.
posted by barchan at 8:45 PM on April 19, 2016 [12 favorites]
My first thought would be for her safety and protection from enraged gun owners.
posted by barchan at 8:45 PM on April 19, 2016 [12 favorites]
OK mission accomplished, I'm actually disappointed at a link to Samantha Bee after reading the title. You did it.
posted by Hoopo at 8:54 PM on April 19, 2016
posted by Hoopo at 8:54 PM on April 19, 2016
Isn't the "don't resell the costume" rule a violation of the right of first sale? How is that legal?
posted by If only I had a penguin... at 9:37 PM on April 19, 2016 [1 favorite]
posted by If only I had a penguin... at 9:37 PM on April 19, 2016 [1 favorite]
My first thought would be for her safety and protection from enraged gun owners.
She just needs to hang around unraged gun owners, she'll be safe then.
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 9:42 PM on April 19, 2016
She just needs to hang around unraged gun owners, she'll be safe then.
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 9:42 PM on April 19, 2016
She might have better luck getting a Pistol Pete costume?
posted by creade at 10:31 PM on April 19, 2016 [3 favorites]
posted by creade at 10:31 PM on April 19, 2016 [3 favorites]
I was shocked, shocked, I tell you to discover that the NRA does not always live up to their own ideals:
posted by Harald74 at 12:11 AM on April 20, 2016 [10 favorites]
The National Rifle Association’s annual convention kicks off in Nashville this week, with 70,000 people expected to participate in the three-day gathering.But certainly the stalwart Republican presidential candidates would not dream to deny people their Constitutional rights to open carry firearms at the Republican National Convention later this year? Nope, no guns allowed at the venue except for those carried by the Secret Service and other law enforcement. They're citing "security concerns" when of course the safest convention in the history of the GOP would be the one where everybody is armed. Hence this petition on change.org to allow open carry at the event. The initiative has had, ahem, a mixed reception among politicians and 2nd amendment advocates.
Attendees can expect to find the usual NRA fare and exhibitors at the 350,000-square-foot Music City Center, but they shouldn’t expect to find functioning weapons. The Tennessean reports this week on the “multilevel security plan,” which includes an important safety measure: “All guns on the convention floor will be nonoperational, with the firing pins removed, and any guns purchased during the NRA convention will have to be picked up at a Federal Firearms License dealer, near where the purchaser lives, and will require a legal identification.”
posted by Harald74 at 12:11 AM on April 20, 2016 [10 favorites]
Alvy Ampersand: "My first thought would be for her safety and protection from enraged gun owners.
She just needs to hang around unraged gun owners, she'll be safe then."
She's got two big rifles now, she'll be safe.
posted by chavenet at 1:29 AM on April 20, 2016
She just needs to hang around unraged gun owners, she'll be safe then."
She's got two big rifles now, she'll be safe.
posted by chavenet at 1:29 AM on April 20, 2016
Isn't the "don't resell the costume" rule a violation of the right of first sale? How is that legal?
Contract law? I think animal breeders use it for that all the time.
posted by rhizome at 2:51 AM on April 20, 2016
Contract law? I think animal breeders use it for that all the time.
posted by rhizome at 2:51 AM on April 20, 2016
She's got two big rifles now, she'll be safe.
Actually...
posted by lmfsilva at 4:03 AM on April 20, 2016 [3 favorites]
Actually...
posted by lmfsilva at 4:03 AM on April 20, 2016 [3 favorites]
Haven't had a chance to verify it, but I was told the open carry Republican convention thing was started by lefties who were trolling the Republicans. I'm terrified enough to be heading to Cleveland this summer, honestly. A crewmates asked me yesterday if the Arab speaking Arabic on a plane story wouldn't freak me out too, my answer was that I was much more afraid of a city full of armed gun rights fools shooting each other while funnin' around.
posted by nevercalm at 4:14 AM on April 20, 2016 [1 favorite]
posted by nevercalm at 4:14 AM on April 20, 2016 [1 favorite]
Genuine lols at her reading the contract w a gun.
posted by Potomac Avenue at 6:00 AM on April 20, 2016
posted by Potomac Avenue at 6:00 AM on April 20, 2016
My favourite part of the petition is where open carry activists are angry at the guy who posted it, but can't really articulate why, as "open carry logic" indicates that the goal and framing of the petition is correct.
posted by Harald74 at 6:05 AM on April 20, 2016 [4 favorites]
posted by Harald74 at 6:05 AM on April 20, 2016 [4 favorites]
I signed that petition. I'm probably on a list, now.
posted by Multicellular Exothermic at 7:55 AM on April 20, 2016
posted by Multicellular Exothermic at 7:55 AM on April 20, 2016
Isn't the "don't resell the costume" rule a violation of the right of first sale? How is that legal?
This isn't a matter of copyright law, it's basic property and contract law. The costumes are presumably sold with a no-resale clause. There may be some variation in the enforceability of that clause from state to state, but it's common enough in the general sense. Or, there may be a more elaborate mechanism by which the costumes are rented, or lent out to organizations paying a program fee, etc.
Anyway, the real obstacle here is that no organization with an NRA-supplied costume is going to be willing to sell it to Samantha Bee.
posted by snuffleupagus at 7:56 AM on April 20, 2016 [1 favorite]
This isn't a matter of copyright law, it's basic property and contract law. The costumes are presumably sold with a no-resale clause. There may be some variation in the enforceability of that clause from state to state, but it's common enough in the general sense. Or, there may be a more elaborate mechanism by which the costumes are rented, or lent out to organizations paying a program fee, etc.
Anyway, the real obstacle here is that no organization with an NRA-supplied costume is going to be willing to sell it to Samantha Bee.
posted by snuffleupagus at 7:56 AM on April 20, 2016 [1 favorite]
From what I understand, as I've asked about it, the no guns at convention rule was put down by Secret Service. I don't know how accurate this is, I just know this is what they're telling campaign staff.
posted by corb at 9:36 AM on April 20, 2016
posted by corb at 9:36 AM on April 20, 2016
Isn't the "don't resell the costume" rule a violation of the right of first sale? How is that legal?
This isn't a matter of copyright law, it's basic property and contract law. The costumes are presumably sold with a no-resale clause.
I'm still kind of confused by this. So essentially you can create a resale contract that would overwrite the right of first sale? I remember this issue going to the SCOTUS in 2013 and was upheld. But that had to do with books, and reseller vs publisher. But wouldn't that apply here unless the contract is that strong?
posted by numaner at 9:52 AM on April 20, 2016
This isn't a matter of copyright law, it's basic property and contract law. The costumes are presumably sold with a no-resale clause.
I'm still kind of confused by this. So essentially you can create a resale contract that would overwrite the right of first sale? I remember this issue going to the SCOTUS in 2013 and was upheld. But that had to do with books, and reseller vs publisher. But wouldn't that apply here unless the contract is that strong?
posted by numaner at 9:52 AM on April 20, 2016
Is the costume sold, or "rented" without a return date for a flat fee? I think that might make a difference.
posted by lmfsilva at 10:02 AM on April 20, 2016
posted by lmfsilva at 10:02 AM on April 20, 2016
But wouldn't that apply here unless the contract is that strong?
Without getting too deep, because there's going to be some kind of licensing of the mascot incorporated in the sale, presuming it is an outright sale. It's not directly comparable to a copy of a book or movie.
posted by snuffleupagus at 11:40 AM on April 20, 2016 [1 favorite]
Without getting too deep, because there's going to be some kind of licensing of the mascot incorporated in the sale, presuming it is an outright sale. It's not directly comparable to a copy of a book or movie.
posted by snuffleupagus at 11:40 AM on April 20, 2016 [1 favorite]
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