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July 21, 2016 9:30 PM Subscribe
Marvel and Netflix releases a Luke Cage trailer at SDCC Plus: Iron Fist teaser. Plus: Defenders teaser. Also: Daredevil season 3 confirmed. More from the Luke Cage panel.
Oh, that music choice!
Even those of us who normally don't like it raw would strongly consider making an exception for Mike Colter.
posted by Parasite Unseen at 9:41 PM on July 21, 2016 [2 favorites]
Even those of us who normally don't like it raw would strongly consider making an exception for Mike Colter.
posted by Parasite Unseen at 9:41 PM on July 21, 2016 [2 favorites]
I used to think the Daredevil homage to Oldboy could not be improved upon.
Luke Cage. Yes, he just did that.
It's not the official motto of the upcoming series, but clearly, it should be.
posted by Slap*Happy at 9:53 PM on July 21, 2016 [2 favorites]
Luke Cage. Yes, he just did that.
It's not the official motto of the upcoming series, but clearly, it should be.
posted by Slap*Happy at 9:53 PM on July 21, 2016 [2 favorites]
"Fuck doors" is pretty much the official motto of the Marvel Netflix universe. Walls and windows also probably in for a bit of a terrible time.
posted by Artw at 10:00 PM on July 21, 2016 [35 favorites]
posted by Artw at 10:00 PM on July 21, 2016 [35 favorites]
This is not the Defenders lineup that I am familiar with but I'll take it. They'll never rescue Silver Surfer from Fox development hell, anyway, poor guy.
posted by fifteen schnitzengruben is my limit at 10:21 PM on July 21, 2016 [1 favorite]
posted by fifteen schnitzengruben is my limit at 10:21 PM on July 21, 2016 [1 favorite]
After wallowing in Trumpish hell all day, this makes me very happy. Glad I saw it before heading to bed.
posted by Gaz Errant at 10:33 PM on July 21, 2016 [2 favorites]
posted by Gaz Errant at 10:33 PM on July 21, 2016 [2 favorites]
And let's not forget we'll be getting (finally) Genndy Tartakovsky's take on Luke Cage later this year as well.
posted by NoxAeternum at 10:45 PM on July 21, 2016 [2 favorites]
posted by NoxAeternum at 10:45 PM on July 21, 2016 [2 favorites]
Why does New York need shaving?
posted by dumbland at 11:09 PM on July 21, 2016 [5 favorites]
posted by dumbland at 11:09 PM on July 21, 2016 [5 favorites]
Netflix is my favorite channel.
posted by EatTheWeek at 12:15 AM on July 22, 2016 [8 favorites]
posted by EatTheWeek at 12:15 AM on July 22, 2016 [8 favorites]
Why does New York need shaving?
Hipsters.
posted by Grangousier at 12:44 AM on July 22, 2016 [14 favorites]
Hipsters.
posted by Grangousier at 12:44 AM on July 22, 2016 [14 favorites]
Excellent choice of soundtrack. I'm now looking forward to hearing "Hey, Luke Cage? Baby I gotcha money" to appear somewhere in the season.
posted by longbaugh at 1:26 AM on July 22, 2016 [2 favorites]
posted by longbaugh at 1:26 AM on July 22, 2016 [2 favorites]
hello my name is bob sullivan
from sullivans doors
has your door been punched out of its frame
by a heartsick hero
trying to do whats right
why not call sullivans
we can get you a new door
while you wait
think about it
no more giant holes in your walls
just doors
my beautiful doors
call sullivans doors now
posted by robocop is bleeding at 3:23 AM on July 22, 2016 [37 favorites]
from sullivans doors
has your door been punched out of its frame
by a heartsick hero
trying to do whats right
why not call sullivans
we can get you a new door
while you wait
think about it
no more giant holes in your walls
just doors
my beautiful doors
call sullivans doors now
posted by robocop is bleeding at 3:23 AM on July 22, 2016 [37 favorites]
They could do with some Real Fake Doors.
posted by longbaugh at 3:57 AM on July 22, 2016 [1 favorite]
posted by longbaugh at 3:57 AM on July 22, 2016 [1 favorite]
I still wish that they'd set the Daredevil/Jones/Cage universe in the New York of the '70s instead of present day but I guess that the budgets couldn't handle that.
posted by octothorpe at 4:09 AM on July 22, 2016 [5 favorites]
posted by octothorpe at 4:09 AM on July 22, 2016 [5 favorites]
Sweet Christmas!
posted by entropicamericana at 4:18 AM on July 22, 2016 [5 favorites]
posted by entropicamericana at 4:18 AM on July 22, 2016 [5 favorites]
I liked the part where he kicked ass.
posted by 1970s Antihero at 4:22 AM on July 22, 2016 [7 favorites]
posted by 1970s Antihero at 4:22 AM on July 22, 2016 [7 favorites]
"Shimmy Shimmy Ya" (21 years old) and "Come As You Are" (25 years old). Those songs age well, granted, but it's clear these movies are not targeting the youth of today. Which means I'll likely enjoy them immensely.
posted by BigLankyBastard at 4:35 AM on July 22, 2016 [3 favorites]
posted by BigLankyBastard at 4:35 AM on July 22, 2016 [3 favorites]
But... why does Luke Cage need a car door as a shield when he's literally bulletproof? Maybe he's disguising his super-power. Don't care, will watch avidly anyway.
posted by BitterOldPunk at 4:37 AM on July 22, 2016 [1 favorite]
posted by BitterOldPunk at 4:37 AM on July 22, 2016 [1 favorite]
Is that Donald Sutherland talking in the Defenders trailer?
posted by octothorpe at 4:46 AM on July 22, 2016
posted by octothorpe at 4:46 AM on July 22, 2016
When I was a kid, the Defenders were Namor, the Hulk, Dr. Strange, and Valkyrie. This is the cheaper-special-effects lineup. Nevertheless, looks pretty good, although the unexpected pimping-out of the Cobain song just makes me cranky. And yeah, shielding yourself with a car door that's considerably less durable than yourself doesn't make sense. Maybe he was trying not to get holes in his favorite T-shirt or something.
posted by Sing Or Swim at 4:48 AM on July 22, 2016 [2 favorites]
posted by Sing Or Swim at 4:48 AM on July 22, 2016 [2 favorites]
About the door. Maybe he was just damaging the gang's stuff just for fun.
posted by KaizenSoze at 4:51 AM on July 22, 2016
posted by KaizenSoze at 4:51 AM on July 22, 2016
Is that Donald Sutherland talking in the Defenders trailer?
Most likely it's Stick from the Daredevil series, played by Scott Glenn.
posted by Jugwine at 5:01 AM on July 22, 2016 [8 favorites]
Most likely it's Stick from the Daredevil series, played by Scott Glenn.
posted by Jugwine at 5:01 AM on July 22, 2016 [8 favorites]
But... why does Luke Cage need a car door as a shield when he's literally bulletproof?
I think the door is more of a ram than a shield. If he kicks a door he might knock it off the hinges, but also his foot might just go right through it and leave it standing, which would be embarrassing. Using the car door as an intermediary ensures that the force is more spread out.
Is that Donald Sutherland talking in the Defenders trailer?
It sounded like Stick from the Daredevil series to me.
posted by IAmUnaware at 5:02 AM on July 22, 2016 [2 favorites]
I think the door is more of a ram than a shield. If he kicks a door he might knock it off the hinges, but also his foot might just go right through it and leave it standing, which would be embarrassing. Using the car door as an intermediary ensures that the force is more spread out.
Is that Donald Sutherland talking in the Defenders trailer?
It sounded like Stick from the Daredevil series to me.
posted by IAmUnaware at 5:02 AM on July 22, 2016 [2 favorites]
I liked the part where he kicked ass.
posted by 1970s Antihero at 4:22 AM on July 22
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posted by the painkiller at 5:10 AM on July 22, 2016
posted by 1970s Antihero at 4:22 AM on July 22
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posted by the painkiller at 5:10 AM on July 22, 2016
I like that they're calling Cage the Wu-Tangification of the Marvel Universe, because hell yes. Wrap more car doors around people, please.
Also you know you could trust Luke Cage to keep the Wu-Tang Secret.
posted by middleclasstool at 5:21 AM on July 22, 2016
Also you know you could trust Luke Cage to keep the Wu-Tang Secret.
posted by middleclasstool at 5:21 AM on July 22, 2016
Also also, we should make August the "FuckThisDoorInParticular tag" month for posts.
posted by middleclasstool at 5:23 AM on July 22, 2016 [6 favorites]
posted by middleclasstool at 5:23 AM on July 22, 2016 [6 favorites]
That's definitely Stick. But he mentions "the four of you." Who will be the fourth Defender?
posted by Kitteh at 5:32 AM on July 22, 2016
posted by Kitteh at 5:32 AM on July 22, 2016
Is it not Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, Iron fist?
posted by Twain Device at 5:35 AM on July 22, 2016
posted by Twain Device at 5:35 AM on July 22, 2016
The MCU Defenders are:
posted by 1970s Antihero at 5:36 AM on July 22, 2016 [11 favorites]
- Daredevil
- Jessica Jones
- Luke Cage/Power Man
- Danny Rand/Iron Fist
posted by 1970s Antihero at 5:36 AM on July 22, 2016 [11 favorites]
I am excited for all of these, but where's Jessica Jones season 2?
posted by The Man from Lardfork at 5:47 AM on July 22, 2016 [1 favorite]
posted by The Man from Lardfork at 5:47 AM on July 22, 2016 [1 favorite]
Oh, sorry! You're right. My mind blanked and cannot count this morning.
posted by Kitteh at 5:48 AM on July 22, 2016
posted by Kitteh at 5:48 AM on July 22, 2016
A second season of Jessica Jones has already been confirmed.
posted by 1970s Antihero at 5:51 AM on July 22, 2016 [6 favorites]
posted by 1970s Antihero at 5:51 AM on July 22, 2016 [6 favorites]
> Somewhere in the background, Trish Walker is crying, because she's got more Defenders cred than any of them.
Walker should team up with Misty Knight (who will debut in Luke Cage) and Colleen Wing (who will debut in Iron Fist) in their own mini-series/team. Call the trio and show Fearless.
posted by Fiberoptic Zebroid and The Hypnagogic Jerks at 5:58 AM on July 22, 2016 [4 favorites]
Walker should team up with Misty Knight (who will debut in Luke Cage) and Colleen Wing (who will debut in Iron Fist) in their own mini-series/team. Call the trio and show Fearless.
posted by Fiberoptic Zebroid and The Hypnagogic Jerks at 5:58 AM on July 22, 2016 [4 favorites]
And I am slow this morning, because I am only just now getting the imagery of a strong black man calmly making his way through a hail of violence and smashing down prison doors while wearing a goddamn bullet hole-riddled hoodie.
Well done.
posted by middleclasstool at 5:59 AM on July 22, 2016 [22 favorites]
Well done.
posted by middleclasstool at 5:59 AM on July 22, 2016 [22 favorites]
Yeah, this'll do.
posted by Brandon Blatcher at 6:02 AM on July 22, 2016
posted by Brandon Blatcher at 6:02 AM on July 22, 2016
I'm so looking forward to these! Power Man and Iron Fist were among my favorite titles as a kid. I had hoped Jessica Jones might be a preview of that more obscure corner of the Marvel universe getting more attention soon. Yay! More stuff to binge on while I'm lying on the sofa in a depressive funk!
posted by saulgoodman at 6:03 AM on July 22, 2016
posted by saulgoodman at 6:03 AM on July 22, 2016
So I guess it's going to be a running thing where the Marvel Netflix shows set their awesome set-piece fights in dilapidated hallways?
posted by Holy Zarquon's Singing Fish at 6:11 AM on July 22, 2016 [1 favorite]
posted by Holy Zarquon's Singing Fish at 6:11 AM on July 22, 2016 [1 favorite]
But... why does Luke Cage need a car door as a shield when he's literally bulletproof?
He's not immune to pain. People shot with bulletproof vests on don't walk away thinking "Hey that was fun! Let's do that again!" as the bruise spreads from the impact area.
posted by This Guy at 6:14 AM on July 22, 2016
He's not immune to pain. People shot with bulletproof vests on don't walk away thinking "Hey that was fun! Let's do that again!" as the bruise spreads from the impact area.
posted by This Guy at 6:14 AM on July 22, 2016
I still wish that they'd set the Daredevil/Jones/Cage universe in the New York of the '70s instead of present day but I guess that the budgets couldn't handle that.
"It's the 70s out there... since The Incident."
posted by Artw at 6:25 AM on July 22, 2016 [1 favorite]
"It's the 70s out there... since The Incident."
posted by Artw at 6:25 AM on July 22, 2016 [1 favorite]
I do wish that the folks involved in the Netflix/MCU folks could be more involved in the films. The shows are so much more interesting than the generally bland MCU movies.
posted by octothorpe at 6:33 AM on July 22, 2016
posted by octothorpe at 6:33 AM on July 22, 2016
The movies are so studio driven that they'd be bland no matter who the credited writers and directors are, though.
posted by Holy Zarquon's Singing Fish at 6:48 AM on July 22, 2016
posted by Holy Zarquon's Singing Fish at 6:48 AM on July 22, 2016
I'm actually pretty happy for the movies and the Nerflix shows to be their own different, differently enjoyable things. And I guess for Agents of Shield yo be doing whatever it's doing for whoever enjoys that, I guess. RIP Agent Carter.
posted by Artw at 6:53 AM on July 22, 2016 [7 favorites]
posted by Artw at 6:53 AM on July 22, 2016 [7 favorites]
He's not immune to pain. People shot with bulletproof vests on don't walk away thinking "Hey that was fun! Let's do that again!" as the bruise spreads from the impact area.
Only Cage doesn't bruise. As shown in Jessica Jones, his skin in impenetrable (first by broken glass and later by rotary saw) so there's no physical trauma underneath. While clearly he has nerve endings in his skin, I don't think that they register pain. Cage's pain, and this is where the Netflix shows shine, is more psychological. MCU's Cage doesn't even know if he's mortal.* I imagine the show is going to focus more on that aspect of the character.
*I haven't reached the finale of Jessica Jones S1 yet, so I apologize if I've been/will be proven wrong.
posted by dances with hamsters at 6:59 AM on July 22, 2016 [1 favorite]
Only Cage doesn't bruise. As shown in Jessica Jones, his skin in impenetrable (first by broken glass and later by rotary saw) so there's no physical trauma underneath. While clearly he has nerve endings in his skin, I don't think that they register pain. Cage's pain, and this is where the Netflix shows shine, is more psychological. MCU's Cage doesn't even know if he's mortal.* I imagine the show is going to focus more on that aspect of the character.
*I haven't reached the finale of Jessica Jones S1 yet, so I apologize if I've been/will be proven wrong.
posted by dances with hamsters at 6:59 AM on July 22, 2016 [1 favorite]
It seems that the easiest way to beat the Defenders would be to just stage the attack during daylight hours.
posted by dances with hamsters at 6:59 AM on July 22, 2016 [6 favorites]
posted by dances with hamsters at 6:59 AM on July 22, 2016 [6 favorites]
The simplest explanation is that he carries the car door shield because if he didn't carry the carry door shield then he couldn't later wrap the car door shield around a dude and then throw that car door shield wrapped dude into a bunch of other dudes.
Honestly, sometimes I wonder if some of you just slept through our Cool As Fuck training courses.
posted by Parasite Unseen at 7:09 AM on July 22, 2016 [37 favorites]
Honestly, sometimes I wonder if some of you just slept through our Cool As Fuck training courses.
posted by Parasite Unseen at 7:09 AM on July 22, 2016 [37 favorites]
And I am slow this morning, because I am only just now getting the imagery of a strong black man calmly making his way through a hail of violence and smashing down prison doors while wearing a goddamn bullet hole-riddled hoodie.
Jesus, yes, this. I thought it was a hell of a thing opening it with him putting a hoodie on and then they take it even further.
If this turns out to be as socially-conscious as Jessica Jones it's going to be one of the greatest things they've ever done in the MCU for a whole lot of reasons.
posted by griphus at 7:44 AM on July 22, 2016 [10 favorites]
Jesus, yes, this. I thought it was a hell of a thing opening it with him putting a hoodie on and then they take it even further.
If this turns out to be as socially-conscious as Jessica Jones it's going to be one of the greatest things they've ever done in the MCU for a whole lot of reasons.
posted by griphus at 7:44 AM on July 22, 2016 [10 favorites]
Only Cage doesn't bruise
Depends who is writing. Recently he suffered some internal injuries that were a major problem because you can't perform surgery on him.
posted by ChurchHatesTucker at 7:56 AM on July 22, 2016 [1 favorite]
Depends who is writing. Recently he suffered some internal injuries that were a major problem because you can't perform surgery on him.
posted by ChurchHatesTucker at 7:56 AM on July 22, 2016 [1 favorite]
You guys. My favoriting finger is wearing out.
I love MCU-TV so much more than I like the movies.
God I hope Disney never decides to stop spending this money.
posted by DigDoug at 7:58 AM on July 22, 2016 [3 favorites]
I love MCU-TV so much more than I like the movies.
God I hope Disney never decides to stop spending this money.
posted by DigDoug at 7:58 AM on July 22, 2016 [3 favorites]
Also, agh, I'm still pissed off that in 2016 Iron Fist has to continue being a white dude.
posted by griphus at 7:59 AM on July 22, 2016 [6 favorites]
posted by griphus at 7:59 AM on July 22, 2016 [6 favorites]
I still haven't watched DD S2, but I thought JJ was masterful. I'm very excited about Luke Cage. Sort of on the fence by about Iron Fist.
posted by codacorolla at 8:01 AM on July 22, 2016
posted by codacorolla at 8:01 AM on July 22, 2016
That Luke Cage trailer was amazing. The ODB accompaniment was amazing. Keep the Jessica Jones tone and I'm sold.
Concerned about Iron Fist though, look like it has pretty much exactly the same issues that are already evident from Dr Strange.
Who are the classic/traditional villains/nemeses of Power Man and Iron Fist from the comics?
posted by ocular shenanigans at 8:01 AM on July 22, 2016
Concerned about Iron Fist though, look like it has pretty much exactly the same issues that are already evident from Dr Strange.
Who are the classic/traditional villains/nemeses of Power Man and Iron Fist from the comics?
posted by ocular shenanigans at 8:01 AM on July 22, 2016
Who are the classic/traditional villains/nemeses of Power Man and Iron Fist from the comics?
I suspect we're in for at least a few more episodes of Infinite Ninjas.
posted by DigDoug at 8:03 AM on July 22, 2016 [4 favorites]
I suspect we're in for at least a few more episodes of Infinite Ninjas.
posted by DigDoug at 8:03 AM on July 22, 2016 [4 favorites]
Not sure about traditional, but when Iron Fist was revived for The Immortal Iron Fist (which is like essential reading and the first time Fraction and Aja worked together before Hawkguy) he took down maybe five hundred Hydra guys.
posted by griphus at 8:04 AM on July 22, 2016
posted by griphus at 8:04 AM on July 22, 2016
1 ninja = credible threat
1 million ninjas = walk in the park
posted by Artw at 8:08 AM on July 22, 2016
1 million ninjas = walk in the park
posted by Artw at 8:08 AM on July 22, 2016
Please God make Fat Cobra and/or the Bride of Nine Spiders be a thing
JE JE JE JE JE JE
posted by middleclasstool at 8:08 AM on July 22, 2016 [4 favorites]
JE JE JE JE JE JE
posted by middleclasstool at 8:08 AM on July 22, 2016 [4 favorites]
Million Zillion Ninjas = Hedge
posted by Tenuki at 8:09 AM on July 22, 2016 [7 favorites]
posted by Tenuki at 8:09 AM on July 22, 2016 [7 favorites]
Please God make Fat Cobra and/or the Bride of Nine Spiders be a thing
If S2 isn't the Seven Capital Cities Of Heaven I'm gonna be so pissed. It's perfect TV show fodder.
(Also, griphus, you are so damn right. I'm not sure it's possible for a superhero production to have a more on-the-nose response to the post-Trayvon Martin world, and even as a white dude, it resonates.)
posted by Holy Zarquon's Singing Fish at 8:14 AM on July 22, 2016 [5 favorites]
If S2 isn't the Seven Capital Cities Of Heaven I'm gonna be so pissed. It's perfect TV show fodder.
(Also, griphus, you are so damn right. I'm not sure it's possible for a superhero production to have a more on-the-nose response to the post-Trayvon Martin world, and even as a white dude, it resonates.)
posted by Holy Zarquon's Singing Fish at 8:14 AM on July 22, 2016 [5 favorites]
Madame Gao appears to be from alum Lun so there's a high chance of some martial arts bad guys that aren't The Hand. That's already pretty yellow-perilish so I hope there's more than that in the mix.
posted by Artw at 8:14 AM on July 22, 2016
posted by Artw at 8:14 AM on July 22, 2016
I genuinely wonder which direction they're taking Iron Fist. Like, it obviously has to match the gritty aesthetic of the other Defenders shows, but the newer Iron Fist comics definitely went off in a more ~mystical~ direction than before. Like I'd love to see Seven Capital Cities of Heaven as a storyline, but almost the entire thing takes place in a different dimension (save for the b-plot with Luke Cage) which doesn't seem like what they're going for with these shows.
Also good god I hope they just knock out the origin quickly (snow! kung fu! heart of the dragon! done!) and don't do that awful Arrow thing where they spend a season interspersing the origin story in with the main story.
posted by griphus at 8:27 AM on July 22, 2016
Also good god I hope they just knock out the origin quickly (snow! kung fu! heart of the dragon! done!) and don't do that awful Arrow thing where they spend a season interspersing the origin story in with the main story.
posted by griphus at 8:27 AM on July 22, 2016
Also if you want to read good Iron Fist comics but not sure where to start: here's a collection of Immortal Iron Fist. The story starts off with sort of a big retcon in sort of a cliche way -- it's revealed in the first issue that "Iron Fist" isn't just Danny's superhero name but a mantle like "Slayer" in Buffy -- that might not be adopted for the series, but it's really some of the best comics Marvel had put out in the 2000s.
posted by griphus at 8:31 AM on July 22, 2016
posted by griphus at 8:31 AM on July 22, 2016
It's also the comic where Matt Fraction first teamed with David Aja, so if you want to see where Hawkeye came from, that would be it.
(Also also, making Danny the latest in a line of Iron Fists who have been mostly but not entirely Asian would help undercut the White Savior aspect of his origin so I hope they go with that even if we never get the Immortal Weapons side of things)
posted by Holy Zarquon's Singing Fish at 8:35 AM on July 22, 2016 [1 favorite]
(Also also, making Danny the latest in a line of Iron Fists who have been mostly but not entirely Asian would help undercut the White Savior aspect of his origin so I hope they go with that even if we never get the Immortal Weapons side of things)
posted by Holy Zarquon's Singing Fish at 8:35 AM on July 22, 2016 [1 favorite]
I still wish that they'd set the Daredevil/Jones/Cage universe in the New York of the '70s instead of present day but I guess that the budgets couldn't handle that.
They could still do Dazzler, and have that set in the '70s.
Or even better, they could have Dazzler set in 2016, but make it so everything around her is the '70s. Like, it's part of her powers.
posted by TheWhiteSkull at 8:51 AM on July 22, 2016 [2 favorites]
They could still do Dazzler, and have that set in the '70s.
Or even better, they could have Dazzler set in 2016, but make it so everything around her is the '70s. Like, it's part of her powers.
posted by TheWhiteSkull at 8:51 AM on July 22, 2016 [2 favorites]
Unfortunately they literally can't do Dazzler, because she's an X-Man.
posted by Holy Zarquon's Singing Fish at 8:53 AM on July 22, 2016
posted by Holy Zarquon's Singing Fish at 8:53 AM on July 22, 2016
A friend of mine once referred to Dazzler as the canonical example of comic books being consistently ~10 years behind on pop culture trends. Dazzler the disco-based superhero debuted in 1980.
posted by griphus at 8:53 AM on July 22, 2016 [3 favorites]
posted by griphus at 8:53 AM on July 22, 2016 [3 favorites]
Sadly counts as an X-person, so we probably won't see DJ Dazzler on the decks.
posted by Artw at 8:57 AM on July 22, 2016
posted by Artw at 8:57 AM on July 22, 2016
*sad disco dance*
posted by TheWhiteSkull at 9:04 AM on July 22, 2016 [5 favorites]
posted by TheWhiteSkull at 9:04 AM on July 22, 2016 [5 favorites]
Which is hilarious, because she was created specifically to be the main character of a Marvel Comics-produced feature film.
posted by Holy Zarquon's Singing Fish at 9:04 AM on July 22, 2016
posted by Holy Zarquon's Singing Fish at 9:04 AM on July 22, 2016
Dazzler the Movie was a huge hit but stirred up a lot of anti-Mutant hysteria, so it's a mixed bag.
posted by Artw at 9:05 AM on July 22, 2016 [4 favorites]
posted by Artw at 9:05 AM on July 22, 2016 [4 favorites]
Maybe we could get Paul Verhoeven to direct a Dazzler movie, then.
posted by TheWhiteSkull at 9:10 AM on July 22, 2016 [1 favorite]
posted by TheWhiteSkull at 9:10 AM on July 22, 2016 [1 favorite]
Dazzler the Movie was a huge hit but stirred up a lot of anti-Mutant hysteria, so it's a mixed bag.
Shout out to Jay and Miles X-Plain the X-Men for allowing me to catch this joke.
posted by Peccable at 9:10 AM on July 22, 2016 [6 favorites]
Shout out to Jay and Miles X-Plain the X-Men for allowing me to catch this joke.
posted by Peccable at 9:10 AM on July 22, 2016 [6 favorites]
Shoutout to J&M for allowing me to know literally anything about Dazzler other than that amazing Jim Shooter movie pitch, really.
posted by Holy Zarquon's Singing Fish at 9:12 AM on July 22, 2016 [4 favorites]
posted by Holy Zarquon's Singing Fish at 9:12 AM on July 22, 2016 [4 favorites]
I skimmed the last few comments too quickly and briefly thought there was an actual Dazzler movie in the works QUIT TOYING WITH MY EMOTIONS
posted by skycrashesdown at 9:12 AM on July 22, 2016
posted by skycrashesdown at 9:12 AM on July 22, 2016
There was a rumor that the last X-movie might have a Dazzler cameo, but I never saw the thing.
posted by Artw at 9:20 AM on July 22, 2016
posted by Artw at 9:20 AM on July 22, 2016
I haven't seen it either but her album shows up in the promo photos.
posted by griphus at 9:26 AM on July 22, 2016 [1 favorite]
posted by griphus at 9:26 AM on July 22, 2016 [1 favorite]
A Dazzler movie done right could be what that terrible Jem and the Holograms was going for last year.
posted by codacorolla at 9:35 AM on July 22, 2016 [3 favorites]
posted by codacorolla at 9:35 AM on July 22, 2016 [3 favorites]
He carries uses the car door as a shield because he doesn't want to get a bunch of bulletholes in his hoodie and have to buy a new one. At some point he realizes it's not working so he might as well do something cool with it.
posted by elr at 10:52 AM on July 22, 2016 [1 favorite]
posted by elr at 10:52 AM on July 22, 2016 [1 favorite]
The MCU Defenders are:
Daredevil
Jessica Jones
Luke Cage/Power Man
Danny Rand/Iron Fist
So basically, two material artists and two bricks. As a long-term Champions referee, I can say right now the players are going to regret focusing on hand-to combat so much, and not having say, a flying energy projector.
posted by happyroach at 11:04 AM on July 22, 2016 [8 favorites]
Daredevil
Jessica Jones
Luke Cage/Power Man
Danny Rand/Iron Fist
So basically, two material artists and two bricks. As a long-term Champions referee, I can say right now the players are going to regret focusing on hand-to combat so much, and not having say, a flying energy projector.
posted by happyroach at 11:04 AM on July 22, 2016 [8 favorites]
That's why The Punisher is going to need a jet-pack.
posted by Artw at 11:24 AM on July 22, 2016 [1 favorite]
posted by Artw at 11:24 AM on July 22, 2016 [1 favorite]
I am duly impressed by how quickly you had that image ready to go, griphus.
posted by mstokes650 at 11:29 AM on July 22, 2016 [7 favorites]
posted by mstokes650 at 11:29 AM on July 22, 2016 [7 favorites]
I want to take credit, but it was an extremely good coincidence. I just assumed Punisher 2099 had a jetpack.
posted by griphus at 11:30 AM on July 22, 2016 [3 favorites]
posted by griphus at 11:30 AM on July 22, 2016 [3 favorites]
He has the 83 years worth of additional hate required for levitation.
posted by Artw at 11:33 AM on July 22, 2016
posted by Artw at 11:33 AM on July 22, 2016
If ever a line from a comic needed to be cross-stitched, that were it.
posted by The Gaffer at 11:34 AM on July 22, 2016 [4 favorites]
posted by The Gaffer at 11:34 AM on July 22, 2016 [4 favorites]
The thing about Dazzler is that being an international pop star is also an excellent cover for being a secret agent.
posted by The Whelk at 11:34 AM on July 22, 2016 [1 favorite]
posted by The Whelk at 11:34 AM on July 22, 2016 [1 favorite]
I kind of hope the Defenders cameo in Infinity War II, and Matt can turn to Frank and say, "You can kill these ones," and Frank Castle will just straight up gun murder a bunch of aliens.
posted by Elementary Penguin at 11:38 AM on July 22, 2016 [1 favorite]
posted by Elementary Penguin at 11:38 AM on July 22, 2016 [1 favorite]
It would be amazing if the ending to that was essentially the "we're sending someone in to negotiate" scene from Fifth Element but with Frank and Thanos.
posted by griphus at 11:43 AM on July 22, 2016 [2 favorites]
posted by griphus at 11:43 AM on July 22, 2016 [2 favorites]
I think we can all agree that regardless of whether he has a jetpack, you'd have to be crazy to lend Frank Castle a jet-ski.
posted by Holy Zarquon's Singing Fish at 11:46 AM on July 22, 2016 [4 favorites]
posted by Holy Zarquon's Singing Fish at 11:46 AM on July 22, 2016 [4 favorites]
Also, if Supergirl ever gets cancelled, Melissa Benoist should be immediately cast in a Dazzler movie.
posted by TheWhiteSkull at 12:55 PM on July 22, 2016
posted by TheWhiteSkull at 12:55 PM on July 22, 2016
Also if you want to read good Iron Fist comics but not sure where to start: here's a collection of Immortal Iron Fist.
Rather than spending $25 on a trade paperback, just get Marvel Unlimited. Even if you do the monthly $10 rather than dropping the $70 for a whole year (just do it!) you can get the $1 first month and then two more months and will still have spent less.
And during that time you can also read the whole run of ALIAS (the Jessica Jones series), about 25 issues of Ms Marvel (Kamela Kahn is awesome), a bunch of Captain Marvel, all those batshit crazy Punisher issues, old Daredevil from back before we knew Frank Miller was a loon, newer Daredevil by Bendis and Brubaker and Waid and and and...
Seriously, it's a fantastic value. I'm a huge crank about spending money to get digital goods you don't really own, but the MU subscription model is less than buying two $4 books a month and the only limit is you have to wait 6 months. I know that matters to some people but I am a parent so 'this century' is pretty much enough for me.
posted by phearlez at 1:01 PM on July 22, 2016 [4 favorites]
Rather than spending $25 on a trade paperback, just get Marvel Unlimited. Even if you do the monthly $10 rather than dropping the $70 for a whole year (just do it!) you can get the $1 first month and then two more months and will still have spent less.
And during that time you can also read the whole run of ALIAS (the Jessica Jones series), about 25 issues of Ms Marvel (Kamela Kahn is awesome), a bunch of Captain Marvel, all those batshit crazy Punisher issues, old Daredevil from back before we knew Frank Miller was a loon, newer Daredevil by Bendis and Brubaker and Waid and and and...
Seriously, it's a fantastic value. I'm a huge crank about spending money to get digital goods you don't really own, but the MU subscription model is less than buying two $4 books a month and the only limit is you have to wait 6 months. I know that matters to some people but I am a parent so 'this century' is pretty much enough for me.
posted by phearlez at 1:01 PM on July 22, 2016 [4 favorites]
Choose Your Own Adventure: Resort Town Marina
posted by TheWhiteSkull at 1:24 PM on July 22, 2016 [1 favorite]
posted by TheWhiteSkull at 1:24 PM on July 22, 2016 [1 favorite]
Lol, Dazzler. There's a name I haven't thought of in a while. Back in 1981 at the tender age of 11, near the peak of my comic book fandom, the clerk at our local comic book store convinced me and a few of my friends that this would be the most valuable comic book, EVER!
We all bought a few copies and promptly stored them away, awaiting our eventual rewards. As far as I can tell the value has remained between 50 cents and 4 dollars, for these last 35 years. Oh, and I also collected the series for a year or two on the hopes of cashing in *really* big so there's that . . .
Recent reports suggest it is UNDERVALUED however! Maybe I can get 5$ for it.
Btw, no memails please, those extra copies are long gone. ;)
posted by jeremias at 1:52 PM on July 22, 2016 [2 favorites]
We all bought a few copies and promptly stored them away, awaiting our eventual rewards. As far as I can tell the value has remained between 50 cents and 4 dollars, for these last 35 years. Oh, and I also collected the series for a year or two on the hopes of cashing in *really* big so there's that . . .
Recent reports suggest it is UNDERVALUED however! Maybe I can get 5$ for it.
Btw, no memails please, those extra copies are long gone. ;)
posted by jeremias at 1:52 PM on July 22, 2016 [2 favorites]
I think we can all agree that regardless of whether he has a jetpack, you'd have to be crazy to lend Frank Castle a jet-ski.
It depends on what you hope he does with it.
#FuckBoats #FuckThatBoatInParticular
posted by wildblueyonder at 2:32 PM on July 22, 2016 [2 favorites]
It depends on what you hope he does with it.
#FuckBoats #FuckThatBoatInParticular
posted by wildblueyonder at 2:32 PM on July 22, 2016 [2 favorites]
So I'm not a comics person typically, but I've been loving the Marvel Netflix series. But can anyone explain the Defenders trailer to me? Why use that song? And so prominently? I mean, coming from a "I know shit about the Defenders" POV, it looks like a trailer for a 1990s period piece. Is this just audience targeting or is there some kind of logic?
posted by threeturtles at 2:56 PM on July 22, 2016
posted by threeturtles at 2:56 PM on July 22, 2016
I'm guessing some trailer-cutting person thought the words "come as you are" meshed well with the idea of these disparate heroes forming an ad-hoc team, and ran with it.
posted by Holy Zarquon's Singing Fish at 3:08 PM on July 22, 2016
posted by Holy Zarquon's Singing Fish at 3:08 PM on July 22, 2016
I have a suspicion these Defenders will have little to do with the comics Defenders save for the "doesn't play well with others" nature of the team and the name.
posted by griphus at 3:30 PM on July 22, 2016
posted by griphus at 3:30 PM on July 22, 2016
This seems like a good place to drop the American Gods trailer. I'm sold.
posted by octothorpe at 6:04 PM on July 22, 2016 [3 favorites]
posted by octothorpe at 6:04 PM on July 22, 2016 [3 favorites]
I am very worried about the Dane Cook inclusion. Though I am happy about Al Swearingen and Pornstache.
posted by middleclasstool at 6:28 PM on July 22, 2016
posted by middleclasstool at 6:28 PM on July 22, 2016
I've never heard of Cook, what's wrong with him?
posted by octothorpe at 6:48 PM on July 22, 2016
posted by octothorpe at 6:48 PM on July 22, 2016
Gillian Anderson is Media/Television! Kristen Chenowith is Easter!
I have been pitching to everyone I can think of to get on the recap beat for this show. I have signed Bryan Fuller scripts next to my expanded edition of the golden bough - I am the exact mid point in the Venn diagram to cover this show.
posted by The Whelk at 7:13 PM on July 22, 2016 [2 favorites]
I have been pitching to everyone I can think of to get on the recap beat for this show. I have signed Bryan Fuller scripts next to my expanded edition of the golden bough - I am the exact mid point in the Venn diagram to cover this show.
posted by The Whelk at 7:13 PM on July 22, 2016 [2 favorites]
He's a very bro-ey comedian who has made a mint off of meh humor and has stolen jokes but threatened lawsuits on anyone with material remotely like his. Oh, and his HBO show that no one remembers is why Deadwood got kicked off the air. He's famous for flipping people off with extra fingers.
posted by middleclasstool at 7:21 PM on July 22, 2016
posted by middleclasstool at 7:21 PM on July 22, 2016
Buffy the Vampire Slayer was also really hard on doors. Someday I'm going to do a super-cut of doors getting kicked in...
posted by bstreep at 9:30 PM on July 22, 2016
posted by bstreep at 9:30 PM on July 22, 2016
Doors and drywall are easy to reset for another take.
posted by mikelieman at 11:23 PM on July 22, 2016
posted by mikelieman at 11:23 PM on July 22, 2016
He's a very bro-ey comedian who has made a mint off of meh humor and has stolen jokes but threatened lawsuits on anyone with material remotely like his. Oh, and his HBO show that no one remembers is why Deadwood got kicked off the air. He's famous for flipping people off with extra fingers.
And he's playing Robbie. Seems like pretty good casting to me.
posted by IAmUnaware at 9:36 AM on July 23, 2016
And he's playing Robbie. Seems like pretty good casting to me.
posted by IAmUnaware at 9:36 AM on July 23, 2016
I've never heard of Cook, what's wrong with him?
He's the karate of comedy.
posted by ChurchHatesTucker at 9:39 AM on July 23, 2016
He's the karate of comedy.
posted by ChurchHatesTucker at 9:39 AM on July 23, 2016
Some reveals about Hulk in Hulk armour from Thor: Ragnarok - I'm ridiculously excited for this thing given that the Thor movies to date have been likable but not great.
posted by Artw at 10:10 AM on July 23, 2016
posted by Artw at 10:10 AM on July 23, 2016
This seems like a good place to drop the American Gods trailer. I'm sold.
New post.
posted by Artw at 10:46 AM on July 23, 2016 [1 favorite]
New post.
posted by Artw at 10:46 AM on July 23, 2016 [1 favorite]
In other news: Feminist Writer Roxane Gay and Poet Yona Harvey to Write New World of Wakanda Title For Marvel
posted by homunculus at 2:54 PM on July 23, 2016 [3 favorites]
posted by homunculus at 2:54 PM on July 23, 2016 [3 favorites]
So much interesting and good stuff coming down the pipe!
posted by Brandon Blatcher at 7:09 PM on July 24, 2016
posted by Brandon Blatcher at 7:09 PM on July 24, 2016
Netflix's Reason for Not Saving Agent Carter Was 'Business'
posted by Artw at 6:40 AM on July 28, 2016
posted by Artw at 6:40 AM on July 28, 2016
New Seasons of "jessica Jones," "punisher" & "daredevil" Won't Debut until 2018
posted by Artw at 6:47 AM on July 28, 2016
posted by Artw at 6:47 AM on July 28, 2016
Everything We Know About Thanos in the Marvel Universe, According to Thor
posted by Artw at 7:12 AM on July 29, 2016
posted by Artw at 7:12 AM on July 29, 2016
In other white savior news: Constance Wu On ‘Great Wall’ Casting: ‘Our Heroes Don’t Look Like Matt Damon’
posted by homunculus at 4:21 PM on July 31, 2016 [1 favorite]
posted by homunculus at 4:21 PM on July 31, 2016 [1 favorite]
There is a difference, and that this is Mainland China. Matt Damon is like Ian McKellan or Jude Law - a sexy, exoticized Other. Bad ass and foreign, and because he's foreign, in the right way, he's bad-ass and more than kinda hot. Matt Damon will not give up his foreign ways, but will also come to appreciate China, and want to protect it(well, his character will journey down that arc). He's now America's Jackie Chan to Chinese audiences.
Nick Cage actually beat him to it, as a lost Crusader in 1300's China. It was kinda terrible, plot and acting wise, tho exquisitely filmed.
If you are an Asian-American, dealing with Hollywood white-washing Asian roles for American audiences, this must be very hard to deal with.
posted by Slap*Happy at 7:57 PM on July 31, 2016
Nick Cage actually beat him to it, as a lost Crusader in 1300's China. It was kinda terrible, plot and acting wise, tho exquisitely filmed.
If you are an Asian-American, dealing with Hollywood white-washing Asian roles for American audiences, this must be very hard to deal with.
posted by Slap*Happy at 7:57 PM on July 31, 2016
Hah, that's great. The thing on his head in the experiment flashback is a great callback to the classic Luke Cage look. And I like that he's reading a Walt Mosely novel. Wonder if they picked that one just because it's newish or if the fact that it's a sorta resurrection of Easy Rawlins had anything to do with it.
posted by phearlez at 7:14 AM on August 9, 2016 [3 favorites]
posted by phearlez at 7:14 AM on August 9, 2016 [3 favorites]
They're having a lot of fun with it, that's for sure.
posted by mikelieman at 7:37 AM on August 9, 2016
posted by mikelieman at 7:37 AM on August 9, 2016
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