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	<pubDate>Fri, 05 Apr 2002 15:54:15 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Post number 16132</title>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/middle_east/newsid_1912000/1912953.stm"&gt;In case you still thought there was still anything even slightly rational, even-handed and non-ideological about the Nobel Peace Prize:&lt;/a&gt; Members of the NPP committee that gave Shimon Peres the Prize in 1994 are now attacking him for not singlehandedly putting a stop to Israeli reoccupation of Palestinian territory, even though here&apos;s only a member of the cabinet, not the leader of the country. (Alternatively, they say, he should have quit.) Which would be okay, since what&apos;s going on now isn&apos;t very peaceful ... except that they&apos;ve said not a peep about about the actions of one of the other two men that shared the prize that year, one Yassir Arafat. (The third, Yitzhak Rabin, apparently gets off the hook since he&apos;s already dead.)</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Apr 2002 14:52:48 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>aaron</dc:creator>		<category>nobelprize</category>		<category>nobel</category>		<category>peaceprize</category>		<category>shimonperes</category>		<category>yassirarafat</category>		<category>yitzhakrabin</category>
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		<title>By: mapalm</title>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;The third, Yitzhak Rabin, apparently gets off the hook since he&apos;s already dead.&lt;/i&gt;

Murdered by an Israeli terrorist, let&apos;s not forget.</description>
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		<title>By: jaek</title>
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		<description>An Israeli terrorist who was immediately arrested, tried, convicted, and is now spending the rest of his life in jail.

I think that the committee&apos;s concen over the prize being brought into disrepute is well-founded, if a couple decades too late.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Apr 2002 16:14:31 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Postroad</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/16132/#255270</link>	
		<description>Did anyone really think the prize was &quot;authentic&quot;?</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Apr 2002 16:33:29 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: RJ Reynolds</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/16132/#255279</link>	
		<description>So they wisely decided that was a leeetle premature, giving out those Nobels like they were Halloween candy. Like they really thought Israeli/Palestine peace was a done deal? Fools. 

Anyway, that gang doesn&apos;t really fit in when you go over the Peace Prize Laureate &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nobel.se/peace/laureates/index.html&quot;&gt;list&lt;/a&gt;. I mean, as if Arafat was ever the equivalent of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nobel.se/peace/laureates/1905/suttner-bio.html&quot; title=&quot;Nobel&apos;s secretary, even!&quot;&gt;Baroness Bertha Sophie Felicita von Suttner, n&#233;e Countess Kinsky von Chinic und Tettau&lt;/a&gt;...</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Apr 2002 16:52:51 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>RJ Reynolds</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: aaron</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/16132/#255294</link>	
		<description>Damn, I read that as &quot;Countess Kinky&quot; for a second and thought I was going to see something really cool.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Apr 2002 17:38:56 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mikegre</title>
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		<description>You know, since the advent of the net and the democratization of information, all of us are so much smarter now. We&apos;ve evolved and it&apos;s really really hard to put anything over us. Actually, it&apos;s quite pathetic watching these idiots trying to propagandize us.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Apr 2002 17:43:04 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dhartung</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/16132/#255331</link>	
		<description>&amp;lt;sidebar&amp;gt;

Countess Kinky? Isn&apos;t that &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.zararivera.com/thurnundtaxis.htm&quot;&gt;Princess Gloria von Thurn und Taxis&lt;/a&gt;, who once appeared on David Letterman dressed like Cyndi Lauper and somewhere south of sober? Letterman made so much fun of her that she came back a couple of months later and gave &lt;i&gt;the exact same performance&lt;/i&gt;, the same inane answers to questions about how many rooms her castle had and such.

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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Apr 2002 21:23:13 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: clavdivs</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/16132/#255367</link>	
		<description>coughs*dynamite* coughs.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Apr 2002 23:22:40 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ushuaia</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/16132/#255382</link>	
		<description>Recent scandals like &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.salon.com/col/horo/1999/01/nc_11horo.html&quot;&gt; the Rigoberta Menchu lies &lt;/a&gt; has already done a lot to disrepute the prize. And somehow it must have been obvious to the NPP committe that laureates like Arafat and Peres would be controversial years to come when they were awarded the prize in 1994, I thougt. Still Hanne Kvanmo acts surprised. It should be stated that one NPP committe member left after the choice of Arafat, another protests the terrorism towards Israeli civilians. Kvanmo&apos;s opinion isn&apos;t uncontroversial in Europe, others argue that Arafat&apos;s prize also should be revoked, even if it&apos;s not stated in the BBC piece.
All things aside, the Peres critics are right about his responsibility. Without his support, Sharon couldn&apos;t go through with what&apos;s happening now.
And of course the NPP committe isn&apos;t non-ideological or rational, why would you think that? &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rightlivelihood.se&quot;&gt; The Right Livelihood Award &lt;/a&gt; realised that years ago...</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Apr 2002 00:42:43 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: solistrato</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/16132/#256183</link>	
		<description>Sorry to quote &lt;i&gt;The Onion&lt;/i&gt;, but so appropriate:

&quot;Amputee Children of Cambodia Award Peace Prize to Henry Kissinger&quot;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Apr 2002 21:50:24 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dhartung</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/16132/#256616</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.newsday.com/news/local/wire/ny-bc-ny--cuomo-arafat0407apr07.story&quot;&gt;Andrew Cuomo has written the committee&lt;/a&gt; asking them to reconsider Arafat, rather than Peres.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Apr 2002 14:17:23 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: aaron</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/16132/#257514</link>	
		<description>Cuomo has to. Sucking up to the Jewish vote is an absolute necessity in New York if you want to get elected. Just look at Hillary&apos;s u-turn and her subsequent New Square pardon scandal.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Apr 2002 20:31:39 -0800</pubDate>
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