Shimon Peres dies at 93
September 27, 2016 7:37 PM Subscribe
PM Peres, "one of the last surviving pillars of Israel’s founding generation", passed away in a Tel Aviv-area hospital on Wednesday.
Peres was hospitalized after a stroke recently. He served as prime minister and president of Israel, as well as a minister of defense, foreign affairs, finance, and transportation. He was jointly awarded with the Nobel Peace Prize in 1994, a champion of strong Israeli defense and peace in the region.
Coverage from The Jerusalem Post, Haaretz, BBC. Live reactions compiled by The Guardian.
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You know how you build a textile factory in the Negev and everyone thinks it's something else?
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posted by Joe in Australia at 12:37 AM on September 28, 2016
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posted by Slithy_Tove at 7:39 AM on September 28, 2016
posted by Slithy_Tove at 7:39 AM on September 28, 2016
I must admit I know very little about Peres' impact, and hurried here excitedly hoping to read some interesting thoughts and opinions from fellow Mefites on whether he was a net positive or made things worse.
perhaps a lot of people are like me, and don't know much about him, his policies or his contributions :), though the occasional ☮ I see posted indicates that he did OK.
That video linked by uniliteral makes it seem like he was a lovely fellow, with some inspiring things to say, but obviously that's the goal of the video.
posted by bitteroldman at 8:36 AM on September 28, 2016
perhaps a lot of people are like me, and don't know much about him, his policies or his contributions :), though the occasional ☮ I see posted indicates that he did OK.
That video linked by uniliteral makes it seem like he was a lovely fellow, with some inspiring things to say, but obviously that's the goal of the video.
posted by bitteroldman at 8:36 AM on September 28, 2016
I remember him as a right winger and a hawk, but sometimes the hawks are better able to negotiate peace.
posted by Bee'sWing at 9:26 AM on September 28, 2016
posted by Bee'sWing at 9:26 AM on September 28, 2016
My understanding is that Peres was most closely associated with the left, and had often run under the Labor Party etc.
AP and Reuters both have decent career write-ups/obits which can flesh out some of the OP links, and Al-Jazeera (surprise) has a much more negative take if you are looking for a different view.
posted by rosswald at 9:38 AM on September 28, 2016 [1 favorite]
AP and Reuters both have decent career write-ups/obits which can flesh out some of the OP links, and Al-Jazeera (surprise) has a much more negative take if you are looking for a different view.
posted by rosswald at 9:38 AM on September 28, 2016 [1 favorite]
You are correct, rosswald, it's been many years and Israeli politics have been depressing for so long.
posted by Bee'sWing at 10:11 AM on September 28, 2016
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posted by fingers_of_fire at 10:35 AM on September 28, 2016
posted by fingers_of_fire at 10:35 AM on September 28, 2016
Shimon Peres: Israeli war criminal whose victims the West ignored [Middle East Monitor].
The one most likely to raise the ire of the US liberals praising Peres today is his offer to sell nuclear weapons to apartheid South Africa.
posted by ryanshepard at 11:11 AM on September 28, 2016 [3 favorites]
The one most likely to raise the ire of the US liberals praising Peres today is his offer to sell nuclear weapons to apartheid South Africa.
posted by ryanshepard at 11:11 AM on September 28, 2016 [3 favorites]
He wasn't perfect, but was representative of a level headed, peace seeking generation that is rapidly (to everyone's detriment) dying off. Definitely on the lefty side of things... Israel is a lesser place without his influence.
posted by youcancallmeal at 11:37 AM on September 28, 2016 [2 favorites]
posted by youcancallmeal at 11:37 AM on September 28, 2016 [2 favorites]
Peres is something of a tragic figure IMO. His thing, which he won the Nobel Prize for, was the Oslo Accords between Israel and the PLO. For a time it looked as though his country might have peace - there was a roadmap, starting with graduated Israeli withdrawals and the establishment of an elected Palestinian body, and terminating with (what was not acknowledged to be, but would have been) a Palestinian state. And the roadmap was followed for a time, but there were hiccups and modifications and delays, and then people realised that they'd left the map a long time ago and nobody was interested in going any further. Which is where we are today. Things are better IMO than before the Accords, but they were only ever meant to be the start of a process; that process has stalled irreversibly.
It must have been crushing to Peres, because he would have gone down in history as a great statesman and a peacemaker. Instead, at best he's going to be remembered as the guy who laid the groundwork for the real reconciliation, decades after his death.
posted by Joe in Australia at 3:52 PM on September 28, 2016 [4 favorites]
It must have been crushing to Peres, because he would have gone down in history as a great statesman and a peacemaker. Instead, at best he's going to be remembered as the guy who laid the groundwork for the real reconciliation, decades after his death.
posted by Joe in Australia at 3:52 PM on September 28, 2016 [4 favorites]
Joel Beinin interviewed about Peres on the second half of this week's Behind the News
posted by Noisy Pink Bubbles at 5:06 AM on September 30, 2016
posted by Noisy Pink Bubbles at 5:06 AM on September 30, 2016
Obama speaks at Shimon Peres' funeral, Israel.
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Snark: In What Country is Shimon Peres Buried?
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