Bob Dylan isn't Black
November 15, 2016 4:26 PM   Subscribe

 
I'm not even a graphic designer and my face started twitching uncontrollably...
posted by prismatic7 at 4:45 PM on November 15, 2016 [1 favorite]


Funny, although wow, that really is the official Louvre logo? That thing looks like something someone put together doodling in Photoshop. It's such a piece of shit, I don't know if any of the satirical suggestions would actually make it worse (ok, yes, the picture frame would).
posted by Joakim Ziegler at 4:58 PM on November 15, 2016


Comments are way too easy to understand. Accuracy demands more feedback like:

o Lacks something
o Make it more like IBM
o Perfect except rounder and blue
o Maybe some of version 2 and some of version 9?
o Does this speak to women?
o Can we add more pizzazz?
o Not what we talked about

posted by rokusan at 5:11 PM on November 15, 2016 [38 favorites]


o needs more 'x' factor
posted by Sebmojo at 5:14 PM on November 15, 2016


People tend to find art boring so let's change the 'Louvre' font to something fun -- like comic sans! Also, I asked my daughter and she cant' pronounce Louvre so you need to make the name more accessible - how about Loove? It looks like love!
posted by littlesq at 5:16 PM on November 15, 2016 [4 favorites]


o Make the logo bigger!
posted by Mister Moofoo at 6:23 PM on November 15, 2016 [4 favorites]


That's damn funny. As an illustrator I've had my own frustrating experiences with client feedback in which everyone involved felt the need to "lift their leg" on the project.
posted by Liquidwolf at 6:24 PM on November 15, 2016


"Originally, this poster was included as a bonus in a CD compiling the best of Dylan's songs. It was back in 1967."
Kids today…
posted by Pinback at 7:08 PM on November 15, 2016 [12 favorites]


Accuracy demands more feedback like:

It needs to be 20% cooler.
posted by radwolf76 at 7:10 PM on November 15, 2016 [2 favorites]


I noticed that too. I assumed it was a weird translation issue.
posted by Mr.Encyclopedia at 7:10 PM on November 15, 2016


there is plenty of room for partners logos on that Dylan poster ...
posted by philip-random at 7:50 PM on November 15, 2016 [1 favorite]


I did learn from this that the French equivalent of CMYK is CMJN. Or as Steve Martin once said: "Those French! They have a different word for everything!"
posted by TedW at 7:57 PM on November 15, 2016 [1 favorite]


Yes, people have to say something, to justify their position and salary.
posted by bonobothegreat at 8:00 PM on November 15, 2016 [1 favorite]


an excess of marketing, consensus, and politically correct were never behind a memorable project.

Is 'politically correct' a mistranslation? Or is the French concept different? In the US it's been a creepy term ever since the joke got appropriated by the right, but how would it even connect to these particular tidbits? Like, are less-than-cute cats un-PC in France?

(If so, that might explain some of Henri's growing malaise.)
posted by feral_goldfish at 9:57 PM on November 15, 2016


I know it's a translation error but, "add a guitar, for understanding purposes" is so great. I feel like 90% of the conversations I have at work are "for understanding purposes."
posted by entropyiswinning at 10:34 PM on November 15, 2016 [5 favorites]


But did you add a guitar

How will anyone at work understand you without a guitar
posted by Doleful Creature at 11:08 PM on November 15, 2016 [1 favorite]


"Can't you just copy and paste in the image I sent you in that Microsoft Word file?"
posted by The Underpants Monster at 2:21 AM on November 16, 2016 [6 favorites]


o We need to make it more ethnic
o Can we make it pop more?
o Dylan's people aren't happy about the hair
o I don't know. It just seems weak.
posted by PlusDistance at 3:51 AM on November 16, 2016 [1 favorite]


This brings back so many painful memories from time spent in marketing.
posted by sektah at 4:04 AM on November 16, 2016


I know it's a translation error but, "add a guitar, for understanding purposes" is so great.

They need to specify acoustic or electric.
posted by TedW at 6:25 AM on November 16, 2016


But really, though, isn't he?
posted by Bob Regular at 6:55 AM on November 16, 2016 [1 favorite]


The logos had me LOLing
posted by knownassociate at 7:21 AM on November 16, 2016


Back in my publishing days, almost all of our spreads came back from a particular consultant with the notation "JIU" which I learned meant "jazz it up."
A page with a puppy chasing a ball down a hill? JIU.
A spread with kids doing science experiments all over? JIU
Everything got a JIU.
It was the most asinine and least helpful and also most frequent comment we got and is one of the reasons I no longer work there.
posted by rmless at 10:26 AM on November 16, 2016


Relevant: Clients From Hell
posted by softlord at 10:40 AM on November 16, 2016 [3 favorites]


Relevant II: Our art department motto, from Dorothy Sayer's Murder Must Advertise, may as well be my job description:

"Mr. Bredon had been a week with Pym's Publicity, and had learnt a number of things. He learned the average number of words that can be crammed into four inches of copy; that Mr. Armstrong's fancy could be caught by an elaborately-drawn lay-out, whereas Mr. Hankin looked on art-work as waste of a copy-writer's time; that the word "pure" was dangerous, because if lightly used, it laid the client open to prosecution by the Government inspectors, whereas the words "highest quality," "finest ingredients," "packed under the best condidtions" had no legal meaning, and were therefore safe; that the expression "giving work to umpteen thousand British employees in our model works at so-and-so" was not by any means the same thing as "British made throughout"; that the north of England liked its butter and margarine salted, whereas the south preferred it fresh; that the Morning Star would not accept any advertisements containing the word "cure," though there was no objection to such expressions as "relieve" or "ameliorate," and that, further, any commodity that professed to "cure" anything might find itself compelled to register as a patent medicine and use an expensive stamp; that the most convincing copy was always written with the tongue in the cheek, a genuine conviction of the commodity's worth producing--for some reason--poverty and flatness of style; that if, by the most far-fetched stretch of ingenuity, an indecent meaning could be read into a headline, that was the meaning that the great British Public would infallibly read into it; that the great aim and object of the studio artist was to crowd out the advertisement and that, conversely, the copy-writer was a designing villain whose ambition was to cram the space with verbiage and leave no room for the sketch; that the lay-out man, a meek ass between two burdens, spent a miserable life trying to reconcile these opposing parties; and further, that all departments alike united in hatred of the client, who persisted in spoiling good lay-outs by cluttering them up with coupons, free-gift offers, lists of local agents and realistic portraists of hideous and uninteresting cartons, to the detriment of his own interests and the annoyance of everybody concerned."
posted by a humble nudibranch at 2:55 PM on November 16, 2016 [3 favorites]


Relevant: Clients From Hell

compulsively readable ...
posted by philip-random at 3:28 PM on November 16, 2016


My favorite client non-direction is "it needs to be edgy".

What is "edgy"?

Do they mean experimental typography? Sexually ambiguous models? All copy, no image? All image, no copy? Multilingual text? Maybe taking design cues from avant garde design movements?

No, nothing like that. Never anything like that.
posted by Cranialtorque at 1:19 PM on November 17, 2016 [1 favorite]


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