"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it"
January 30, 2017 10:54 PM Subscribe
In a time of uncertain facts and shifting reality see how the Tudors rewrote the history of the Wars of the Roses. Enjoy the first episode of the quite excellent series British History's Biggest Fibs with Lucy Worsley.
Thanks for this!
posted by dr. moot at 12:15 AM on January 31, 2017 [1 favorite]
posted by dr. moot at 12:15 AM on January 31, 2017 [1 favorite]
I too very much enjoyed Lucy Worsley's Latest Excuse To Get Dressed Up in Elaborate Historical Costume Under The Pretense of Making An Historical Documentary.
She was interviewed on 6Music recently too, and she's just as excitable and nerdy in real life, too.
(shapes that haunt the dusk, you are not alone in your celeb crush)
posted by parm at 2:47 AM on January 31, 2017 [15 favorites]
She was interviewed on 6Music recently too, and she's just as excitable and nerdy in real life, too.
(shapes that haunt the dusk, you are not alone in your celeb crush)
posted by parm at 2:47 AM on January 31, 2017 [15 favorites]
I think that Six Wives is also showing up on American TV, and it's also a great series even if the subject matter is well known. It puts an accent on things that are usually overlooked, like Catherine of Aragon and Henry being married for some 20 years before the divorce, or Catherine Parr being the author of theology books.
That said, I enjoyed the first ep of Fibs immensely and I can't wait for the next ones.
posted by sukeban at 6:06 AM on January 31, 2017 [2 favorites]
That said, I enjoyed the first ep of Fibs immensely and I can't wait for the next ones.
posted by sukeban at 6:06 AM on January 31, 2017 [2 favorites]
I am in love with Dr. Lucy Worsley.
She is just so cool. I love it when she plays dress-up.
I never miss her programs.
posted by james33 at 6:26 AM on January 31, 2017 [1 favorite]
She is just so cool. I love it when she plays dress-up.
I never miss her programs.
posted by james33 at 6:26 AM on January 31, 2017 [1 favorite]
"Those who don't study history are doomed to repeat it. Yet those who do study history are doomed to stand by helplessly while everyone else repeats it."
posted by I-Write-Essays at 6:43 AM on January 31, 2017 [16 favorites]
posted by I-Write-Essays at 6:43 AM on January 31, 2017 [16 favorites]
> "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it"
I'm of the opinion that those who CAN remember the past are doomed to repeat it as well. It seems to me that everything is cyclic whether you're informed or not.
posted by davelog at 7:29 AM on January 31, 2017
I'm of the opinion that those who CAN remember the past are doomed to repeat it as well. It seems to me that everything is cyclic whether you're informed or not.
posted by davelog at 7:29 AM on January 31, 2017
I love Lucy too! "Elizabeth had to assert the wite to wule" - so sweet.
Thanks for posting this
posted by mumimor at 1:08 PM on January 31, 2017 [1 favorite]
Thanks for posting this
posted by mumimor at 1:08 PM on January 31, 2017 [1 favorite]
It seems to me that everything is cyclic whether you're informed or not.
This is why soon a flood of Germanic tribesmen will devastate Rome. Fortunately, Italy will have split into Eastern and Western empires. Also, soon the first travelers from Europe will bring a deadly disease that will kill 95% of the population.
On the other hand, I can't wait until we invent telephones again.
posted by happyroach at 1:12 PM on January 31, 2017 [1 favorite]
This is why soon a flood of Germanic tribesmen will devastate Rome. Fortunately, Italy will have split into Eastern and Western empires. Also, soon the first travelers from Europe will bring a deadly disease that will kill 95% of the population.
On the other hand, I can't wait until we invent telephones again.
posted by happyroach at 1:12 PM on January 31, 2017 [1 favorite]
I too very much enjoyed Lucy Worsley's Latest Excuse To Get Dressed Up in Elaborate Historical Costume Under The Pretense of Making An Historical Documentary.
I would do the same if I were her, although what I'm most jealous of is that she got to spend the night (or at least pretend to) in a Tudor house for that other series. The drafty window shutters! The sagging rope bed! That's basically my dream vacation right there, and I'm not being sarcastic.
posted by shapes that haunt the dusk at 7:43 PM on January 31, 2017 [2 favorites]
I would do the same if I were her, although what I'm most jealous of is that she got to spend the night (or at least pretend to) in a Tudor house for that other series. The drafty window shutters! The sagging rope bed! That's basically my dream vacation right there, and I'm not being sarcastic.
posted by shapes that haunt the dusk at 7:43 PM on January 31, 2017 [2 favorites]
Oh no. I may have fallen for an Englishwoman.
posted by Abehammerb Lincoln at 8:40 PM on January 31, 2017
posted by Abehammerb Lincoln at 8:40 PM on January 31, 2017
This is why soon a flood of Germanic tribesmen will devastate Rome.
Given the rise of fascism in Europe...
posted by dirigibleman at 8:53 PM on January 31, 2017
deadly disease that will kill 95% of the population
This itself is one of the biggest fibs in history.
posted by Panjandrum at 7:06 AM on February 1, 2017
This itself is one of the biggest fibs in history.
posted by Panjandrum at 7:06 AM on February 1, 2017
She does that same thing to her Rs that Terry Jones did. I guess I had assumed it was some Welsh thing, but I guess not.
posted by Chrysostom at 11:24 AM on February 1, 2017
posted by Chrysostom at 11:24 AM on February 1, 2017
Isn't that a very upper-crust accent?
posted by shapes that haunt the dusk at 11:31 AM on February 1, 2017
posted by shapes that haunt the dusk at 11:31 AM on February 1, 2017
She left out the fact that on Henry VII's mother was Lady Margaret Beaufort, descended from Edward III, which gave him a bit more cover in his dubious bid for the crown. I get it, there's only so much you can put in an hour, but still....
Plus she left out the punchline to the Burbage playing Richard III story! As follows:
"Legend tells us that a woman fell in love with Burbage when she saw him play Richard III and begged him to come to her chambers that night under the name of King Richard. But Shakespeare overheard the proposition and, as a joke, left the theatre early to take Burbage's place. Shakespeare was "at his game ere Burbage came. Then, message being brought that Richard III was at the door, Shakespeare caused return to be made that William the Conqueror was before Richard III"
posted by BWA at 4:27 PM on February 2, 2017 [1 favorite]
Plus she left out the punchline to the Burbage playing Richard III story! As follows:
"Legend tells us that a woman fell in love with Burbage when she saw him play Richard III and begged him to come to her chambers that night under the name of King Richard. But Shakespeare overheard the proposition and, as a joke, left the theatre early to take Burbage's place. Shakespeare was "at his game ere Burbage came. Then, message being brought that Richard III was at the door, Shakespeare caused return to be made that William the Conqueror was before Richard III"
posted by BWA at 4:27 PM on February 2, 2017 [1 favorite]
Episodes two (about the Glorious Revolution) and three (about the Indian Mutiny and the Raj) have been aired too. This is a wonderful series.
posted by sukeban at 12:24 PM on February 10, 2017 [1 favorite]
posted by sukeban at 12:24 PM on February 10, 2017 [1 favorite]
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She's also my celebrity crush, which invites teasing from my girlfriend whenever I watch something with her in it
posted by shapes that haunt the dusk at 11:50 PM on January 30, 2017 [4 favorites]