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	<pubDate>Thu, 25 Apr 2002 12:47:34 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Post number 16640</title>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://stardust.jpl.nasa.gov/tech/aerogel.html"&gt;Aerogel&lt;/a&gt;  - it holds six world records for physical properties and is nicknamed &apos;blue smoke&apos; for its appearance; unsurprising since it is 99.8% air. Despite being used in the NASA &lt;a href=&quot;http://stardust.jpl.nasa.gov/spacecraft/index.html&quot;&gt;Stardust&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/planetary/mesur.html&quot;&gt;Mars Pathfinder&lt;/a&gt; missions, aerogels are not a recent invention and they were &lt;a href=&quot;http://eande.lbl.gov/ECS/aerogels/sahist.htm&quot;&gt;first prepared in 1931&lt;/a&gt;. It&apos;s also a great insulator - here are some &lt;a href=&quot;http://stardust.jpl.nasa.gov/photo/aerogel.html&quot;&gt;wonderful photos&lt;/a&gt; of it in action.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Apr 2002 12:38:47 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>adrianhon</dc:creator>		<category>aerogel</category>		<category>NASA</category>		<category>materials</category>
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		<title>By: kokogiak</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/16640/#265734</link>	
		<description>Beautiful stuff - makes me want to touch it.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Apr 2002 12:47:34 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: stormy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/16640/#265739</link>	
		<description>Very cool stuff. I had to do some searching to find &lt;a href=&quot;http://stardust.jpl.nasa.gov/overview/faq.html&quot;&gt;the cost&lt;/a&gt; (about $1 per cubic cm).  I&apos;d love to have a jacket made out of this stuff along with insulating my house, but it looks like it might be a while before I can afford it!</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Apr 2002 12:51:33 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: kokogiak</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/16640/#265748</link>	
		<description>Ha - interesting answer to my thought (from page linked by stormy)

&quot;&lt;b&gt;What happens if I touch it? &lt;/b&gt;

Silica aerogel is semi-elastic because it returns to its original form if slightly deformed. If further deformed, a dimple will be created. However, if the elastic limit is exceeded, it will shatter catastrophically, like glass. &quot;</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Apr 2002 12:55:45 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>kokogiak</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: dr_emory</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/16640/#265751</link>	
		<description>How do I make some?  I read somewhere (a long time ago) that you can do it with silicone and a pressure cooker, though that sounds a bit like making a helicopter by turning a lawnmower upside down.  har.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Apr 2002 12:58:10 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: adnanbwp</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/16640/#265753</link>	
		<description>awesome stuff.  How do people come up with such ideas.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Apr 2002 12:59:32 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: adrianhon</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/16640/#265758</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://eande.lbl.gov/ECS/aerogels/saprep.htm&quot;&gt;Some recipes for making aerogel&lt;/a&gt; (see the bottom of the page).</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Apr 2002 13:02:44 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>adrianhon</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: vacapinta</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/16640/#265759</link>	
		<description>So.. where can I buy some? Anyone?

BTW, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.alfa.com/CGI-BIN/LANSAWEB?PROCFUN+WEBOEP+WHOME+ALF&quot;&gt;Alfa Aesar &lt;/a&gt;doesnt sell it and they will sell you virtually any element in the periodic table (rhodium anyone?)</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Apr 2002 13:02:59 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: monju_bosatsu</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/16640/#265762</link>	
		<description>Vacapinta, you can order some &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mkt-intl.com/aerogels/&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Apr 2002 13:05:15 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: yhbc</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/16640/#265774</link>	
		<description>At $975 and up for a 4x8x.5&quot; block of the stuff (picture a tallish paperback book) they&apos;re not going to sell much just for playing with, but I guess that&apos;s hardly the market.

I note that they don&apos;t include a shipping and handling chart. How much can it possibly weigh, anyway?

&quot;For .000 to .002 grams, add $7.50 shipping and handling.
For each .005 gram up to .01 grams, add an additional $5.00.
For UPS delivery, add an additional $9.75&quot;</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Apr 2002 13:17:33 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Danelope</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/16640/#265777</link>	
		<description>I first saw aerogels on the Discovery Channel&apos;s &lt;i&gt;Beyond 2000&lt;/i&gt; at least a decade ago, and was fascinated by the stuff.  If you expose it to an environment largely composed of nitrogen gas, it&apos;ll float on air.  (At least the type of aerogel they were using did.)</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Apr 2002 13:20:35 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Danelope</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: geoff.</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/16640/#265782</link>	
		<description>Cheaper than gold. What&apos;s in it that makes it so expensive? And about how much does it take to make it yourself?</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Apr 2002 13:25:05 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: briank</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/16640/#265784</link>	
		<description>This is a hoax, right?  Man, that is just the cat&apos;s ass!</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Apr 2002 13:29:25 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ookamaka</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/16640/#265823</link>	
		<description>They mentioned the low sound speed properties that aerogels possess. I wonder if this stuff would be effective for sound insulation.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Apr 2002 13:54:00 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mathis23</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/16640/#265880</link>	
		<description>Damn...at first I thought the stuff could actually &apos;rest&apos; on top of a flame.  I really need to read more as opposed to just looking at all the pretty pictures.  That stuff is the shit though.  

BTW, could the brick in the photo at the bottom just learn to be itself and stop tying to be the monolith from &apos;2001&apos;?</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Apr 2002 14:49:27 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: NortonDC</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/16640/#265890</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://eande.lbl.gov/ECS/aerogels/saphoto.htm&quot;&gt;More pictures.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Apr 2002 15:00:36 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: daver</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/16640/#265893</link>	
		<description>Supercritical drying is the thing that makes it hard to do at home, although I found a few references to kids making this for science fairs. My pressure cooker only goes up to 15 ATM, though, so I can&apos;t imagine it&apos;ll do the trick. 

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.aspenaerogels.com&quot;&gt;AspenAerogels &lt;/a&gt; actually makes flexible blankets of the stuff, which has been used in clothing (4000 british pound clothing). Unfortunately, they don&apos;t seem the least interested in telling me how much it costs.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Apr 2002 15:11:27 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Settle</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/16640/#265950</link>	
		<description>Could we please only have links like this one?? That stuff is awesome. I want to make something enormous with it.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Apr 2002 17:10:16 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Settle</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: mikhail</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/16640/#265960</link>	
		<description>This stuff is freaky cool. I&apos;ve never seen it before. Sweet.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Apr 2002 18:24:16 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: rusty</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/16640/#266006</link>	
		<description>My god. If anyone ever ramps up to serious industrial production, it&apos;ll be the greatest thing hikers have ever seen. Imagine replacing my lead-like three pound 0&lt;sup&gt;o&lt;/sup&gt; sleeping bag with something made of this stuff. It would probably weigh about an ounce, and be rated to &quot;What temperature you got?&quot; Not to mention other kinds of expedition outerwear, which, despite materials advances, is still generally heavy and bulky.

I guess breathability would be something to worry about, but I know they&apos;re already making at least one jacket out of it, so it must not be an impossible problem. Probably lots of small beads of the stuff, possibly coated with something hydrophobic, then encapsulated in gore-tex or the like.

I want my aerogel sleeping bag!</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Apr 2002 21:27:00 -0800</pubDate>
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