First full Inhumans trailer drops, sits up and begs
June 29, 2017 9:02 AM Subscribe
To say that it was uninspired would be a disservice to the not just the word, but the entire thesaurus of synonyms of the word "uninspired". To see the incredibly talented Anson Mount and Ian Rheon emoting so incredibly badly is a huge red flag for incredibly sub-par direction. There's no hook or interesting approach to the idea of Inhumans and nothing memorable character wise. Hell, there's no explanation of why the hell they're living on the Moon, at least to a general audience.
On the other hand, even those the CGI on Lockjaw looks a bit weak (which might just be unfinished effects), he does give the interesting and compelling performance.
posted by Brandon Blatcher at 9:08 AM on June 29, 2017 [2 favorites]
On the other hand, even those the CGI on Lockjaw looks a bit weak (which might just be unfinished effects), he does give the interesting and compelling performance.
posted by Brandon Blatcher at 9:08 AM on June 29, 2017 [2 favorites]
Maybe Ramsay Bolton there should remember the last time he came face to face with a large dog.
posted by Halloween Jack at 9:08 AM on June 29, 2017 [9 favorites]
posted by Halloween Jack at 9:08 AM on June 29, 2017 [9 favorites]
I was whelmed.
posted by Fizz at 9:09 AM on June 29, 2017 [10 favorites]
posted by Fizz at 9:09 AM on June 29, 2017 [10 favorites]
God, I hope that was unfinished cgi. The part where Lockjaw shows up and saves Black Bolt, I was like "YEAH! LOCKJAW!" and then the last shot I was "Oh noooooooo, lockjaw...."
posted by lumpenprole at 9:11 AM on June 29, 2017 [5 favorites]
posted by lumpenprole at 9:11 AM on June 29, 2017 [5 favorites]
There's something about the look of this show, but which also extends to almost all of the MCU stuff. It's like... super flat, and boring. Regardless of who they have behind the camera, the imagery always looks like a car commercial. It's especially bad in Agents of Shield, and whatever the fuck this is, but perhaps even more annoying when there's a supposedly talented filmmaker who's talents get homogenized into Marvel gloop.
posted by codacorolla at 9:12 AM on June 29, 2017 [12 favorites]
posted by codacorolla at 9:12 AM on June 29, 2017 [12 favorites]
Came for the Ramsay Bolton joke, was not disappointed.
posted by grumpybear69 at 9:17 AM on June 29, 2017 [1 favorite]
posted by grumpybear69 at 9:17 AM on June 29, 2017 [1 favorite]
I'm experiencing so much Superhero TV fatigue. There are just too many at the moment. I've mostly stuck with The Defenders Netflix Marvel Universe, but Supergirl, Flash, Arrow, The Gifted, Inhumans, ugh. Thrown in the MCU on the big screen and it's just ugh, for me at least. If others like it, then cool for them. But I feel like we're hitting a peak. Or we did some while back.
posted by Fizz at 9:18 AM on June 29, 2017 [2 favorites]
posted by Fizz at 9:18 AM on June 29, 2017 [2 favorites]
Lockjaw, hang in there. Someday your Pet Avengers feature film will come.
posted by delfin at 9:19 AM on June 29, 2017 [8 favorites]
posted by delfin at 9:19 AM on June 29, 2017 [8 favorites]
That upmarket mall parking garbage will look great in IMAX.
posted by Artw at 9:22 AM on June 29, 2017 [6 favorites]
posted by Artw at 9:22 AM on June 29, 2017 [6 favorites]
I didn't even bother to finish Iron Fist, even though I was a huge Iron Fist fan back in the seventies. I will check in for The Defenders, I've heard good things about Supergirl (generally), and may yet check up on Legion if I can get it on one of the streaming services that I already subscribe to. This? Well, I'll probably go to see the movie, but...
posted by Halloween Jack at 9:26 AM on June 29, 2017
posted by Halloween Jack at 9:26 AM on June 29, 2017
Tetanus was painful.
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 9:26 AM on June 29, 2017
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 9:26 AM on June 29, 2017
Oh man, "Premiering on ABC television"? I just feel sad for whatever...this...is
posted by clockzero at 9:27 AM on June 29, 2017 [2 favorites]
posted by clockzero at 9:27 AM on June 29, 2017 [2 favorites]
But I feel like we're hitting a peak. Or we did some while back.
Agreed. Remember how, in the 1990s, rap and basketball Looney Toons were a thing that was everywhere? On ties and t-shirts and postage stamps and whatever. In retrospect that was weird, right?
In ten, fifteen years, the present media era of wall-to-wall superheroes is going to feel like that.
posted by gauche at 9:28 AM on June 29, 2017 [7 favorites]
Agreed. Remember how, in the 1990s, rap and basketball Looney Toons were a thing that was everywhere? On ties and t-shirts and postage stamps and whatever. In retrospect that was weird, right?
In ten, fifteen years, the present media era of wall-to-wall superheroes is going to feel like that.
posted by gauche at 9:28 AM on June 29, 2017 [7 favorites]
Where is my Space Jam TV series?
posted by maryr at 9:30 AM on June 29, 2017 [1 favorite]
posted by maryr at 9:30 AM on June 29, 2017 [1 favorite]
Oh man, "Premiering on ABC television"? I just feel sad for whatever...this...is
It's better off than the new Star Trek, at least.
posted by Artw at 9:30 AM on June 29, 2017 [6 favorites]
It's better off than the new Star Trek, at least.
posted by Artw at 9:30 AM on June 29, 2017 [6 favorites]
I think it's possible to sell a TV production of absolutely anything right now by saying, "It's Game Of Thrones, only with _____!" This is clearly supposed to be "Game of Thrones, only with mutants (or something, who cares) on the Moon!"
However, if your show looks like hastily-convened LARPing, it is unlikely to unseat Game of Thrones.
posted by Sing Or Swim at 9:31 AM on June 29, 2017 [1 favorite]
However, if your show looks like hastily-convened LARPing, it is unlikely to unseat Game of Thrones.
posted by Sing Or Swim at 9:31 AM on June 29, 2017 [1 favorite]
BTW if you are on the wall about Legion just go for it, it's great.
posted by Artw at 9:31 AM on June 29, 2017 [10 favorites]
posted by Artw at 9:31 AM on June 29, 2017 [10 favorites]
only with mutants
Marvel exec: No, it's BETTER than mutants!
posted by Artw at 9:32 AM on June 29, 2017 [2 favorites]
Marvel exec: No, it's BETTER than mutants!
posted by Artw at 9:32 AM on June 29, 2017 [2 favorites]
No one has ever given a shit about the Inhumans and almost everything they've ever starred in has been mediocre and foregettable, so it's nice to see Marvel is sticking with tradition.
posted by Sangermaine at 9:35 AM on June 29, 2017 [5 favorites]
posted by Sangermaine at 9:35 AM on June 29, 2017 [5 favorites]
Looks like I'll have to fast-forward through everything but the Lockjaw scenes, much I like I had to fast-forward through everything but the fight scenes in Iron Fist.
posted by 1970s Antihero at 9:37 AM on June 29, 2017
posted by 1970s Antihero at 9:37 AM on June 29, 2017
We get it, Marvel, you don't have the TV/movie rights to your mutant characters, but STOP TRYING TO MAKE INHUMANS A THING. It's not going to happen.
posted by Guy Smiley at 9:37 AM on June 29, 2017 [12 favorites]
posted by Guy Smiley at 9:37 AM on June 29, 2017 [12 favorites]
That's...um...something.
posted by heathrowga at 9:39 AM on June 29, 2017
posted by heathrowga at 9:39 AM on June 29, 2017
but...but...it was filmed with a special camera! for the first time evar!
posted by snofoam at 9:40 AM on June 29, 2017 [3 favorites]
posted by snofoam at 9:40 AM on June 29, 2017 [3 favorites]
Now that Marvel's A-list (and a lot of the B-list) has either been thoroughly tapped or isn't owned by them, they're naturally trying to mine their deeper roster. Which is great but...there's a reason these characters were never in the big leagues. They really should look to the more niche weirdo characters like Moon Knight for new shows. They should also just accept that they don't have the X-Men and move on. If they must try something with the Inhumans, focus on the interesting ones like Karnak and only have the rest of them show up as supporting characters, which is what the Inhumans are best for anyway.
posted by Sangermaine at 9:44 AM on June 29, 2017 [1 favorite]
posted by Sangermaine at 9:44 AM on June 29, 2017 [1 favorite]
Nu Jumanji looks, 'yeah, well I might catch on tv sometime I suppose', too
posted by fearfulsymmetry at 9:45 AM on June 29, 2017
posted by fearfulsymmetry at 9:45 AM on June 29, 2017
Finally something has come along to help me break my silly commitment to MCU completesm!
posted by paper chromatographologist at 9:45 AM on June 29, 2017 [5 favorites]
posted by paper chromatographologist at 9:45 AM on June 29, 2017 [5 favorites]
So Wonder Woman was good, Guardians 2 was bad, and now this?
After a decade in which it seemed Marvel could do no wrong and DC could do... well, nothing, really... is the worm finally turning?
posted by rokusan at 9:46 AM on June 29, 2017 [1 favorite]
After a decade in which it seemed Marvel could do no wrong and DC could do... well, nothing, really... is the worm finally turning?
posted by rokusan at 9:46 AM on June 29, 2017 [1 favorite]
Look on the bright side, if the rumours are correct, we might be getting our first really crap nu Star Wars film soon!
posted by fearfulsymmetry at 9:48 AM on June 29, 2017
posted by fearfulsymmetry at 9:48 AM on June 29, 2017
So Wonder Woman was good
Yes.
Guardians 2 was bad
No.
After a decade in which it seemed Marvel could do no wrong
Marvel had a lot of success over the last 10 years but few would say they could do no wrong. Most people agree they've put out weaker films like Iron Man 2 or Thor: The Dark World or whatever your choice is. None but the most obsessed fanboys would say everything they've done has been brilliant. Even their TV shows haven't been all perfect (most people seem to agree, for example, that Daredevil Season 2 wasn't as strong as Season 1).
What you're seeing is Marvel running out of steam a little, and DC finally shedding some of the problems holding it back.
posted by Sangermaine at 9:50 AM on June 29, 2017 [7 favorites]
Yes.
Guardians 2 was bad
No.
After a decade in which it seemed Marvel could do no wrong
Marvel had a lot of success over the last 10 years but few would say they could do no wrong. Most people agree they've put out weaker films like Iron Man 2 or Thor: The Dark World or whatever your choice is. None but the most obsessed fanboys would say everything they've done has been brilliant. Even their TV shows haven't been all perfect (most people seem to agree, for example, that Daredevil Season 2 wasn't as strong as Season 1).
What you're seeing is Marvel running out of steam a little, and DC finally shedding some of the problems holding it back.
posted by Sangermaine at 9:50 AM on June 29, 2017 [7 favorites]
They really should look to the more niche weirdo characters like Moon Knight for new shows.
I'd love it if they'd give some of their weirder, riskier characters to weird, risky writers and directors, just to see what would happen. It's not like they'll ever be big tentpole features anyway, and at least it'd be fun.
Remember when DC wouldn't give that emo Duran Duran fanboy writer any good characters for his comic book writing gig? He had to dig out forgotten C- and D-list heros from storage just so he'd have some characters to work with, since they wouldn't let him near Superman or Green Lantern. What did we get from that?
(Spoiler: we got Gaiman's Sandman, that's what we got.)
posted by rokusan at 9:51 AM on June 29, 2017 [13 favorites]
I'd love it if they'd give some of their weirder, riskier characters to weird, risky writers and directors, just to see what would happen. It's not like they'll ever be big tentpole features anyway, and at least it'd be fun.
Remember when DC wouldn't give that emo Duran Duran fanboy writer any good characters for his comic book writing gig? He had to dig out forgotten C- and D-list heros from storage just so he'd have some characters to work with, since they wouldn't let him near Superman or Green Lantern. What did we get from that?
(Spoiler: we got Gaiman's Sandman, that's what we got.)
posted by rokusan at 9:51 AM on June 29, 2017 [13 favorites]
everytime someone says "anson" i think "williams" and now i really want to see a version of the inhumans with potsie as black bolt and maybe ralph malph as medusa since they're both redheads
posted by entropicamericana at 9:54 AM on June 29, 2017 [7 favorites]
posted by entropicamericana at 9:54 AM on June 29, 2017 [7 favorites]
So Wonder Woman was good, Guardians 2 was bad, and now this?
In what universe was Guardians 2 bad ?
posted by Pendragon at 9:56 AM on June 29, 2017 [14 favorites]
In what universe was Guardians 2 bad ?
posted by Pendragon at 9:56 AM on June 29, 2017 [14 favorites]
Maybe women will get the opportunity to actually talk out loud in the series, rather than just silently kneel or get dragged around.
posted by the webmistress at 10:02 AM on June 29, 2017 [6 favorites]
posted by the webmistress at 10:02 AM on June 29, 2017 [6 favorites]
Hopefully this doesn't ruin the possibility of getting a live action adaptation of Ms. Marvel.
posted by exolstice at 10:02 AM on June 29, 2017
posted by exolstice at 10:02 AM on June 29, 2017
Marvel had a lot of success over the last 10 years but few would say they could do no wrong.
Many would point out ABC's Agents of SHIELD, for instance...
posted by Artw at 10:03 AM on June 29, 2017
Many would point out ABC's Agents of SHIELD, for instance...
posted by Artw at 10:03 AM on June 29, 2017
In what universe was Guardians 2 bad ?
Zounds, I thought that was just the conventional wisdom. The pack of nerds I went with was pretty disappointed, and so I assumed that was the zeitgeist. I didn't realize it had, um... defenders!
posted by rokusan at 10:04 AM on June 29, 2017
Zounds, I thought that was just the conventional wisdom. The pack of nerds I went with was pretty disappointed, and so I assumed that was the zeitgeist. I didn't realize it had, um... defenders!
posted by rokusan at 10:04 AM on June 29, 2017
Is that Iwan Rheon's natural accent? It kind of sounded all over the place, but it's possible I'm just thrown because it's different from what I'm used to hearing from him.
posted by Copronymus at 10:08 AM on June 29, 2017
posted by Copronymus at 10:08 AM on June 29, 2017
Just do a Black Widow movie already!
posted by Guy Smiley at 10:09 AM on June 29, 2017 [7 favorites]
posted by Guy Smiley at 10:09 AM on June 29, 2017 [7 favorites]
In ten, fifteen years, the present media era of wall-to-wall superheroes is going to feel like that.
I'm sure glad vampires is over. Can we wrap up zombies next?
posted by rokusan at 10:10 AM on June 29, 2017 [6 favorites]
I'm sure glad vampires is over. Can we wrap up zombies next?
posted by rokusan at 10:10 AM on June 29, 2017 [6 favorites]
Mummies appear to already be wrapped up. HAW!!
posted by thebrokedown at 10:13 AM on June 29, 2017 [13 favorites]
posted by thebrokedown at 10:13 AM on June 29, 2017 [13 favorites]
thebrokedown - Shake the magic eightball, see what comes up.
posted by Artw at 10:14 AM on June 29, 2017
posted by Artw at 10:14 AM on June 29, 2017
MUMMIES WILL NEVER DIE!
posted by Artw at 10:14 AM on June 29, 2017 [2 favorites]
posted by Artw at 10:14 AM on June 29, 2017 [2 favorites]
Iron Fist was the one that broke me. AoS is bland but I like the characters and they've done some interesting stuff the last season or two. I didn't even bother watching Iron Fist as the reviews were just brutal. Daredevil season 2 was a bit of a headscratcher. Punisher has a brain condition? Daredevil doesn't have his radar sense? What?
As for this trailer, it doesn't look much better or worse than any other superhero property.
Also, although not a Marvel property (right?), the first half of Legion was amazing.
posted by runcibleshaw at 10:15 AM on June 29, 2017 [1 favorite]
As for this trailer, it doesn't look much better or worse than any other superhero property.
Also, although not a Marvel property (right?), the first half of Legion was amazing.
posted by runcibleshaw at 10:15 AM on June 29, 2017 [1 favorite]
Lockjaw, hang in there. Someday your Pet Avengers feature film will come.
posted by delfin at 9:19 AM on June 29 [1 favorite +] [!]
Can't we have Krypto's Space Canine Patrol Agents instead?
posted by Paul Slade at 10:17 AM on June 29, 2017 [1 favorite]
posted by delfin at 9:19 AM on June 29 [1 favorite +] [!]
Can't we have Krypto's Space Canine Patrol Agents instead?
posted by Paul Slade at 10:17 AM on June 29, 2017 [1 favorite]
BTW if you are on the wall about Legion just go for it, it's great.
I'll also recommend Lucifer. It has a more sexual Buffy/Angel feel to it, and that's not a complaint. It's well done. A shining light in the middle of all of this comic fatigue. I marathoned through the first Season and had a great time.
posted by Fizz at 10:18 AM on June 29, 2017 [1 favorite]
I'll also recommend Lucifer. It has a more sexual Buffy/Angel feel to it, and that's not a complaint. It's well done. A shining light in the middle of all of this comic fatigue. I marathoned through the first Season and had a great time.
posted by Fizz at 10:18 AM on June 29, 2017 [1 favorite]
I It looks like the producer behind Iron FIst, Scott Buck, is helming this. So it's probably going to suck.
posted by Catblack at 10:18 AM on June 29, 2017 [1 favorite]
posted by Catblack at 10:18 AM on June 29, 2017 [1 favorite]
The only thing that I can think of off the top of my head that wasn't great about Guardians 2 were too many intra-credits scenes, and even those were redeemed by Teen Groot.
posted by Halloween Jack at 10:18 AM on June 29, 2017 [2 favorites]
posted by Halloween Jack at 10:18 AM on June 29, 2017 [2 favorites]
"Oh god this looks so terri--LOCKJAW YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY"
posted by Holy Zarquon's Singing Fish at 10:19 AM on June 29, 2017 [5 favorites]
posted by Holy Zarquon's Singing Fish at 10:19 AM on June 29, 2017 [5 favorites]
Also: Uproxx's Donna Dickens has a compelling theory that this whole thing is the product of Marvel CEO Ike Perlmutter wanting to beat Marvel Studios head Kevin Feige at his own game, but being totally unable to even credibly try.
posted by Holy Zarquon's Singing Fish at 10:23 AM on June 29, 2017 [5 favorites]
posted by Holy Zarquon's Singing Fish at 10:23 AM on June 29, 2017 [5 favorites]
Lockjaw can hang out with Ms. Marvel, can't care any less about the rest of them.
posted by dinty_moore at 10:31 AM on June 29, 2017 [2 favorites]
posted by dinty_moore at 10:31 AM on June 29, 2017 [2 favorites]
This looks like a well-funded fan trailer.
No one has ever given a shit about the Inhumans and almost everything they've ever starred in has been mediocre and foregettable, so it's nice to see Marvel is sticking with tradition.
If they were willing to take risks like Legion did and make this trippy as balls, it could legit be amazing. Marvel can't drum up interest in the Inhumans because they keep trying to make them an X-Men replacement, and they're not. The Inhumans are like if Ziggy Stardust invented "X-Men meets GoT on the moon" in 1977. Whoever has the balls to run with that will drum up interest, I would bet good money. Give us something a Velvet Underground fan would dig. But that would cost more than ABC would be willing to spend.
Their main character's name is Blackagar [Fucking] Boltagon. Embrace that shit. Don't give me a cool dad in a motorcycle jacket frowning a lot.
posted by middleclasstool at 10:35 AM on June 29, 2017 [6 favorites]
No one has ever given a shit about the Inhumans and almost everything they've ever starred in has been mediocre and foregettable, so it's nice to see Marvel is sticking with tradition.
If they were willing to take risks like Legion did and make this trippy as balls, it could legit be amazing. Marvel can't drum up interest in the Inhumans because they keep trying to make them an X-Men replacement, and they're not. The Inhumans are like if Ziggy Stardust invented "X-Men meets GoT on the moon" in 1977. Whoever has the balls to run with that will drum up interest, I would bet good money. Give us something a Velvet Underground fan would dig. But that would cost more than ABC would be willing to spend.
Their main character's name is Blackagar [Fucking] Boltagon. Embrace that shit. Don't give me a cool dad in a motorcycle jacket frowning a lot.
posted by middleclasstool at 10:35 AM on June 29, 2017 [6 favorites]
God, I hope that was unfinished cgi.
It always is, basically right up until the final trailer before release.
posted by tobascodagama at 10:36 AM on June 29, 2017
It always is, basically right up until the final trailer before release.
posted by tobascodagama at 10:36 AM on June 29, 2017
For those of you keeping score at home, before coming to the Marvel Universe, Scott Buck was also responsible for running the last three seasons of Dexter, which were also dreadful.
You know how people on the Internet are always giving Damon Lindelof a crazily disproportionate amount of shit about the LOST finale and movies that he's the sixth credited screenwriter for?
Scott Buck actually deserves that approximate level of scorn.
posted by Strange Interlude at 10:50 AM on June 29, 2017 [10 favorites]
You know how people on the Internet are always giving Damon Lindelof a crazily disproportionate amount of shit about the LOST finale and movies that he's the sixth credited screenwriter for?
Scott Buck actually deserves that approximate level of scorn.
posted by Strange Interlude at 10:50 AM on June 29, 2017 [10 favorites]
For those of you keeping score at home, before coming to the Marvel Universe, Scott Buck was also responsible for running the last three seasons of Dexter, which were also dreadful.
You misspelled "ruining".
Scott Buck actually deserves that approximate level of scorn.
Adjusting the direction of my scorn.
posted by Fizz at 10:55 AM on June 29, 2017 [5 favorites]
You misspelled "ruining".
Scott Buck actually deserves that approximate level of scorn.
Adjusting the direction of my scorn.
posted by Fizz at 10:55 AM on June 29, 2017 [5 favorites]
So, this is what we're getting instead of more Agent Carter, huh.
posted by MrBadExample at 10:57 AM on June 29, 2017 [26 favorites]
posted by MrBadExample at 10:57 AM on June 29, 2017 [26 favorites]
Scott Buck actually deserves that approximate level of scorn.
I have scorn enough to share.
posted by Artw at 10:59 AM on June 29, 2017 [2 favorites]
I have scorn enough to share.
posted by Artw at 10:59 AM on June 29, 2017 [2 favorites]
Also: Uproxx's Donna Dickens has a compelling theory that this whole thing is the product of Marvel CEO Ike Perlmutter wanting to beat Marvel Studios head Kevin Feige at his own game, but being totally unable to even credibly try.
Oh my.
Basically, I think Inhumans is on IMAX as part of an intra-company war between Feige and Perlmutter and frankly, Perlmutter played himself
This is hillarious. Ike Perlmutter is, of course, utterly awful.
posted by Artw at 11:08 AM on June 29, 2017 [2 favorites]
Oh my.
Basically, I think Inhumans is on IMAX as part of an intra-company war between Feige and Perlmutter and frankly, Perlmutter played himself
This is hillarious. Ike Perlmutter is, of course, utterly awful.
posted by Artw at 11:08 AM on June 29, 2017 [2 favorites]
the incredibly talented Anson Mount
Bad enough you trick me into watching that sleeping pill dipped in shit, now you're going to lie to my face?
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 11:10 AM on June 29, 2017 [1 favorite]
Bad enough you trick me into watching that sleeping pill dipped in shit, now you're going to lie to my face?
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 11:10 AM on June 29, 2017 [1 favorite]
Also, although not a Marvel property (right?), the first half of Legion was amazing
Legion is technically Marvel, but Fox has tv and film rights
Bad enough you trick me into watching that sleeping pill dipped in shit, now you're going to lie to my face?
Really? I thought Anson Mount was great in Hell on Wheels and sounded like a great pick for emoting by body language and facial expressions only. But clearly we disagree and I'm sad to hear that you're so terribly wrong :)
posted by Brandon Blatcher at 11:16 AM on June 29, 2017 [1 favorite]
Legion is technically Marvel, but Fox has tv and film rights
Bad enough you trick me into watching that sleeping pill dipped in shit, now you're going to lie to my face?
Really? I thought Anson Mount was great in Hell on Wheels and sounded like a great pick for emoting by body language and facial expressions only. But clearly we disagree and I'm sad to hear that you're so terribly wrong :)
posted by Brandon Blatcher at 11:16 AM on June 29, 2017 [1 favorite]
My comment after Guardians 2 was that it's much like other sequels, in that it was very similar to the first one, but a little worse. And I didn't love the first one.
I thought these people were supposed to be roguish space mercenaries. What's all this bullshit about being "family?" These movies are so damn sappy. I came here to see explosions and weird aliens, I do not give two shits about Starlord's mom's brain cancer.
posted by zeusianfog at 11:22 AM on June 29, 2017 [2 favorites]
I thought these people were supposed to be roguish space mercenaries. What's all this bullshit about being "family?" These movies are so damn sappy. I came here to see explosions and weird aliens, I do not give two shits about Starlord's mom's brain cancer.
posted by zeusianfog at 11:22 AM on June 29, 2017 [2 favorites]
STOP TRYING TO MAKE INHUMANS A THING
STOP TRYING TO MAKE THE THING AN INHUMAN
posted by straight at 11:28 AM on June 29, 2017 [17 favorites]
STOP TRYING TO MAKE THE THING AN INHUMAN
posted by straight at 11:28 AM on June 29, 2017 [17 favorites]
Apart from the occasional Groo, I didn't read Marvel comics much before the MCU became a thing, so my only exposure to the Inhumans is from being a big fan of the Agents of SHIELD show. This thing looks completely disconnected from everything I know and like about the Inhumans. I'll give the pilot a go, but this looks to me mostly like the MCU fracturing.
posted by davelog at 11:29 AM on June 29, 2017
posted by davelog at 11:29 AM on June 29, 2017
God, they would if they could. Cosmic Rays actually Terrigen! Fantastic Four all Inhumans!
posted by Artw at 11:30 AM on June 29, 2017
posted by Artw at 11:30 AM on June 29, 2017
MCU has been fractured since, um, Civil War.
posted by Artw at 11:30 AM on June 29, 2017 [3 favorites]
posted by Artw at 11:30 AM on June 29, 2017 [3 favorites]
(Again, Perlmutter)
posted by Artw at 11:31 AM on June 29, 2017 [2 favorites]
posted by Artw at 11:31 AM on June 29, 2017 [2 favorites]
Although I thought Agents of SHIELD was still in Perlmutter's domain, which makes it even weirder that they stripped out all the Kirbytastic moon castle stuff from the Inhumans there, only to make a spin-off show that's all about the royal family.
posted by Holy Zarquon's Singing Fish at 11:34 AM on June 29, 2017
posted by Holy Zarquon's Singing Fish at 11:34 AM on June 29, 2017
I didn't even bother to finish Iron Fist, even though I was a huge Iron Fist fan back in the seventies. I will check in for The Defenders, I've heard good things about Supergirl (generally)
Are there any of the DC TV shows worth mentioning in the same breath as Luke Cage, Jessica Jones and 1st season Daredevil? I've only really watched The Flash and Tom Cavanagh's performance kept me invested for a while, but eventually even he was overwhelmed by the flood of stupid, especially Barry being an amoral idiot, and I quit.
posted by straight at 11:36 AM on June 29, 2017
Are there any of the DC TV shows worth mentioning in the same breath as Luke Cage, Jessica Jones and 1st season Daredevil? I've only really watched The Flash and Tom Cavanagh's performance kept me invested for a while, but eventually even he was overwhelmed by the flood of stupid, especially Barry being an amoral idiot, and I quit.
posted by straight at 11:36 AM on June 29, 2017
And in case your wondering Perlmutter has been awful for a real long time.
posted by Artw at 11:36 AM on June 29, 2017 [1 favorite]
posted by Artw at 11:36 AM on June 29, 2017 [1 favorite]
Legion is most significantly a Noah Hawley programme more than anything else, X-Verse or not.
posted by Grangousier at 11:39 AM on June 29, 2017 [2 favorites]
posted by Grangousier at 11:39 AM on June 29, 2017 [2 favorites]
God, they would if they could. Cosmic Rays actually Terrigen! Fantastic Four all Inhumans!
Johnny's the one who has actually been hanging out as an honorary Inhuman (I guess because of his past with Crystal?) since they cancelled the FF comic out of spite for FOX. I think the Thing has actually been hanging out with the Avengers and Reed and Sue are supposedly off repairing the multiverse from various crossover event damage.
posted by straight at 11:42 AM on June 29, 2017
Johnny's the one who has actually been hanging out as an honorary Inhuman (I guess because of his past with Crystal?) since they cancelled the FF comic out of spite for FOX. I think the Thing has actually been hanging out with the Avengers and Reed and Sue are supposedly off repairing the multiverse from various crossover event damage.
posted by straight at 11:42 AM on June 29, 2017
Legion and Lucifer are amazing.
And I will throw lightning at anyone who badmouths my Arrowverse shows.
posted by Samizdata at 11:42 AM on June 29, 2017 [1 favorite]
And I will throw lightning at anyone who badmouths my Arrowverse shows.
posted by Samizdata at 11:42 AM on June 29, 2017 [1 favorite]
I'm just waiting for Shane Black to make my Blue Beetle / Booster Gold buddy cop movie.
His office has stopped answering my calls but I did get a very official-sounding letter from his lawyer, so I'd say things are moving along.
posted by Phobos the Space Potato at 11:42 AM on June 29, 2017 [5 favorites]
His office has stopped answering my calls but I did get a very official-sounding letter from his lawyer, so I'd say things are moving along.
posted by Phobos the Space Potato at 11:42 AM on June 29, 2017 [5 favorites]
>Don't give me a cool dad in a motorcycle jacket frowning a lot.
...and getting beat up by police with, like, lecture pointer sticks. It's not the 1970s, and nobody wants to see a Hulk that you made by spending nine bucks on green spray paint and six hundred bucks on Lou Ferrigno. Having somebody jump down off of something and then running the film backwards is not gonna cut it. If you can't afford a decently-powered-up Black Bolt, or a Medusa whose hair doesn't look like a bad Halloween wig, you should probably skip the whole thing.
The Inhumans should be like Kirby's Eternals. It's a whole other civilization. If you shoot it and it looks like the donut shop across the street from the cosplay convention, just cut your losses and do what you can to keep the pilot from getting leaked to YouTube.
posted by Sing Or Swim at 11:43 AM on June 29, 2017 [8 favorites]
...and getting beat up by police with, like, lecture pointer sticks. It's not the 1970s, and nobody wants to see a Hulk that you made by spending nine bucks on green spray paint and six hundred bucks on Lou Ferrigno. Having somebody jump down off of something and then running the film backwards is not gonna cut it. If you can't afford a decently-powered-up Black Bolt, or a Medusa whose hair doesn't look like a bad Halloween wig, you should probably skip the whole thing.
The Inhumans should be like Kirby's Eternals. It's a whole other civilization. If you shoot it and it looks like the donut shop across the street from the cosplay convention, just cut your losses and do what you can to keep the pilot from getting leaked to YouTube.
posted by Sing Or Swim at 11:43 AM on June 29, 2017 [8 favorites]
re there any of the DC TV shows worth mentioning in the same breath as Luke Cage, Jessica Jones and 1st season Daredevil?
Supergirl is an entirely different creature from the Flash/Arrow shared universe -- optimistic, with a hero who's actually dedicated to the idea of heroism. In general it has the feel of an updated Silver Age sort of story (but with heavy continuity). So it's also totally different from the grim-n-gritty Netflix Marvel shows, but not in a bad way.
(Also, I'm way behind on season 2, but the crossovers with Flash that I've seen are delightful)
posted by Holy Zarquon's Singing Fish at 11:44 AM on June 29, 2017 [2 favorites]
Supergirl is an entirely different creature from the Flash/Arrow shared universe -- optimistic, with a hero who's actually dedicated to the idea of heroism. In general it has the feel of an updated Silver Age sort of story (but with heavy continuity). So it's also totally different from the grim-n-gritty Netflix Marvel shows, but not in a bad way.
(Also, I'm way behind on season 2, but the crossovers with Flash that I've seen are delightful)
posted by Holy Zarquon's Singing Fish at 11:44 AM on June 29, 2017 [2 favorites]
Although I thought Agents of SHIELD was still in Perlmutter's domain, which makes it even weirder that they stripped out all the Kirbytastic moon castle stuff from the Inhumans there, only to make a spin-off show that's all about the royal family.
SPOILER for the most recent season of AoS in ROT13:
Ng gur raq bs gur frnfba svanyr, Ntrag Pbhyfba jnxrf hc ba fbzr xvaq bs fcnpr fuvc be fcnpr fgngvba, jvgu gur fhttrfgvba gung guvf jvyy or n znwbe arj frggvat sbe gur frevrf. Guvf pbhyq raq hc eryngvat gb arkg lrne'f Niratref: Vasvavgl Jne, be gurer znl or n zber vzzrqvngr naq qverpg gvr-va jvgu Vauhznaf.
posted by Strange Interlude at 11:45 AM on June 29, 2017 [1 favorite]
SPOILER for the most recent season of AoS in ROT13:
Ng gur raq bs gur frnfba svanyr, Ntrag Pbhyfba jnxrf hc ba fbzr xvaq bs fcnpr fuvc be fcnpr fgngvba, jvgu gur fhttrfgvba gung guvf jvyy or n znwbe arj frggvat sbe gur frevrf. Guvf pbhyq raq hc eryngvat gb arkg lrne'f Niratref: Vasvavgl Jne, be gurer znl or n zber vzzrqvngr naq qverpg gvr-va jvgu Vauhznaf.
posted by Strange Interlude at 11:45 AM on June 29, 2017 [1 favorite]
The first half of this season managed to hold my interest, mainly by being batshit fucking insane. Evil robot rebellion, less so.
posted by Holy Zarquon's Singing Fish at 11:50 AM on June 29, 2017
posted by Holy Zarquon's Singing Fish at 11:50 AM on June 29, 2017
They made Coulson too cuddly. He was more interesting when he was a bit of a bastard. Which the head of a top-secret paramilitary and espionage organization would kind of be, you know? Even the people at Heifer International have to get their hands dirty if they want to do the job.
posted by middleclasstool at 11:55 AM on June 29, 2017 [1 favorite]
posted by middleclasstool at 11:55 AM on June 29, 2017 [1 favorite]
almost everything they've ever starred in has been mediocre and foregettable
The 'almost' there saves you from my eternal derision and scorn for that means you can accept Kamala "Ms. Marvel" Khan, who is an Inhuman and also seven kinds of great.
posted by mephron at 11:56 AM on June 29, 2017 [4 favorites]
The 'almost' there saves you from my eternal derision and scorn for that means you can accept Kamala "Ms. Marvel" Khan, who is an Inhuman and also seven kinds of great.
posted by mephron at 11:56 AM on June 29, 2017 [4 favorites]
If you can't afford a decently-powered-up Black Bolt, or a Medusa whose hair doesn't look like a bad Halloween wig, you should probably skip the whole thing.
Probably even more important than the FX budget is whether you can cast a dude whose face is so expressive and goddam regal that you'd rather watch him silently looking at things than hear any of the other characters talk.
posted by straight at 11:56 AM on June 29, 2017 [2 favorites]
Probably even more important than the FX budget is whether you can cast a dude whose face is so expressive and goddam regal that you'd rather watch him silently looking at things than hear any of the other characters talk.
posted by straight at 11:56 AM on June 29, 2017 [2 favorites]
He looks like he's holding in a fart.
posted by Artw at 12:01 PM on June 29, 2017 [2 favorites]
posted by Artw at 12:01 PM on June 29, 2017 [2 favorites]
"You know what makes for a sense of wonder and exoticism? What will make the viewers feel the splendor and power of Attilan? Make everything cement-colored!"
I'm a little surprised nobody in the art department pointed out that the Magical Kingdom of Super People on the Fucking Moon was less visually stimulating or vibrant than a regular American city street.
One should not think "ooh, the colors really pop!" after you leave the Magical Kingdom of Super People on the Fucking Moon and drop into Los Angeles.
posted by Harvey Jerkwater at 12:01 PM on June 29, 2017 [9 favorites]
I'm a little surprised nobody in the art department pointed out that the Magical Kingdom of Super People on the Fucking Moon was less visually stimulating or vibrant than a regular American city street.
One should not think "ooh, the colors really pop!" after you leave the Magical Kingdom of Super People on the Fucking Moon and drop into Los Angeles.
posted by Harvey Jerkwater at 12:01 PM on June 29, 2017 [9 favorites]
The 'almost' there saves you from my eternal derision and scorn for that means you can accept Kamala "Ms. Marvel" Khan, who is an Inhuman and also seven kinds of great.
Ehhh.... she pretty blatantly would have been a Mutant if she'd been created before the current nonsense started.
posted by Artw at 12:02 PM on June 29, 2017 [3 favorites]
Ehhh.... she pretty blatantly would have been a Mutant if she'd been created before the current nonsense started.
posted by Artw at 12:02 PM on June 29, 2017 [3 favorites]
Also, Black Bolt's voice only needs to make visible waves in a comic book. Making it visible in a TV show is like putting up the words BAM! and POW! when he punches people. Which they probably should have done, as about the only way to make an Inhumans TV show good would be to do it Adam-West-Batman style.
posted by straight at 12:05 PM on June 29, 2017 [1 favorite]
posted by straight at 12:05 PM on June 29, 2017 [1 favorite]
It's kind of sad when your live acting scenes end up in the uncanny valley. I spent the first 30 seconds of the trailer wondering it was an entirely CGI animated show.
posted by srboisvert at 12:06 PM on June 29, 2017 [1 favorite]
posted by srboisvert at 12:06 PM on June 29, 2017 [1 favorite]
The hype: filmed in glorious ultra-hi res 70mm IMAX!
The reality: Don't forget the Jiffy Pop!
posted by prinado at 12:12 PM on June 29, 2017 [1 favorite]
The reality: Don't forget the Jiffy Pop!
posted by prinado at 12:12 PM on June 29, 2017 [1 favorite]
A cardinal rule of sci-fi is "Never be boring."
This ... was boring.
posted by DrAstroZoom at 12:31 PM on June 29, 2017 [2 favorites]
This ... was boring.
posted by DrAstroZoom at 12:31 PM on June 29, 2017 [2 favorites]
They could have framed this so differently.
Such as images of Space Ramsey Bolton on Earth as kid, happy memories, then being whisked away to grey moon base, while a monologue of adult Space Ramsey Bolton recounting why he's going to betray his brother. At least that would be character.
Or Medusa monologuing about how she struggles to keep things civil at the grey moon base as she deals with the various politics.
But what they put up is just Sharknado bad, with none of the gleeful humor. Like I said before, the two male leads are good actors, but what we saw was ridiculous emoting from what would normally be an initial shot as the actors warm up. It's hard to be believe that someone looked at this and thought "Yeah, now we're ready to show this to the world."
posted by Brandon Blatcher at 12:46 PM on June 29, 2017 [2 favorites]
Such as images of Space Ramsey Bolton on Earth as kid, happy memories, then being whisked away to grey moon base, while a monologue of adult Space Ramsey Bolton recounting why he's going to betray his brother. At least that would be character.
Or Medusa monologuing about how she struggles to keep things civil at the grey moon base as she deals with the various politics.
But what they put up is just Sharknado bad, with none of the gleeful humor. Like I said before, the two male leads are good actors, but what we saw was ridiculous emoting from what would normally be an initial shot as the actors warm up. It's hard to be believe that someone looked at this and thought "Yeah, now we're ready to show this to the world."
posted by Brandon Blatcher at 12:46 PM on June 29, 2017 [2 favorites]
Just one shot, ONE SHOT, of Medusa wrecking a bunch of soldiers with her hair and I'd at least be on board for the first episode.
That, and the TINIEST HINT of Jack Kirby and I'd give it the first half of the season. This Attalan looks like a super-modern office building, not the home of crazy magical space royals and their city of superhumans.
posted by The Man from Lardfork at 12:48 PM on June 29, 2017 [4 favorites]
That, and the TINIEST HINT of Jack Kirby and I'd give it the first half of the season. This Attalan looks like a super-modern office building, not the home of crazy magical space royals and their city of superhumans.
posted by The Man from Lardfork at 12:48 PM on June 29, 2017 [4 favorites]
Also, Agents of Shield was firing on all cylinders this past season, especially the latter half. They took the ball, upped the ante and damn spiked the hell out of as they gleefully took several comic book cliches and nailed the hell of them.
I still miss Agent Carter though.
posted by Brandon Blatcher at 12:50 PM on June 29, 2017 [5 favorites]
I still miss Agent Carter though.
posted by Brandon Blatcher at 12:50 PM on June 29, 2017 [5 favorites]
(I have to give Agents of Shield credit for turning itself into a genuinely diverse television show. They stopped whiting-up Chloe Bennet so much in season two and then they brought in Mack, Yoyo, and Robbie Reyes, among other things. Hiring Lorenzo James Henrie to sit around in a wheelchair pretending to be paraplegic is, of course, a lot less cool of them.)
But really the take home message is damn them for canceling Agent Carter.
posted by tobascodagama at 12:57 PM on June 29, 2017 [4 favorites]
But really the take home message is damn them for canceling Agent Carter.
posted by tobascodagama at 12:57 PM on June 29, 2017 [4 favorites]
One should not think "ooh, the colors really pop!" after you leave the Magical Kingdom of Super People on the Fucking Moon and drop into Los Angeles.
It doesn't really affect your criticism, but that was actually Honolulu.
posted by tobascodagama at 12:58 PM on June 29, 2017 [1 favorite]
It doesn't really affect your criticism, but that was actually Honolulu.
posted by tobascodagama at 12:58 PM on June 29, 2017 [1 favorite]
Also, Agents of Shield was firing on all cylinders this past season.
Agreed! I ended up binging much of the back half in Hulu-sized 4-5 episode chunks because I couldn't justify staying up until 11 PM during the work week to watch live, and was usually too busy the rest of the week to keep up weekly. I was impressed by how much they paid off the character relationships built up over the first three years, and resisted the urge to hit the reset button to maintain the status quo.
posted by Strange Interlude at 1:04 PM on June 29, 2017
Agreed! I ended up binging much of the back half in Hulu-sized 4-5 episode chunks because I couldn't justify staying up until 11 PM during the work week to watch live, and was usually too busy the rest of the week to keep up weekly. I was impressed by how much they paid off the character relationships built up over the first three years, and resisted the urge to hit the reset button to maintain the status quo.
posted by Strange Interlude at 1:04 PM on June 29, 2017
The grey mall interior was... Hawaii?
Oh wow. That's even more hilarious.
posted by Artw at 1:23 PM on June 29, 2017
Oh wow. That's even more hilarious.
posted by Artw at 1:23 PM on June 29, 2017
I'm hoping that the show is better than the trailer, because dang.
I've seen worse trailers. I'm not sure when or where, but I'm sure I've seen worse trailers.
posted by sotonohito at 2:07 PM on June 29, 2017
I've seen worse trailers. I'm not sure when or where, but I'm sure I've seen worse trailers.
posted by sotonohito at 2:07 PM on June 29, 2017
Are they going to be showing this trailer in front of IMAX films?
posted by Artw at 2:11 PM on June 29, 2017
posted by Artw at 2:11 PM on June 29, 2017
Black Bolt landed in Honolulu and got beat up by the HPD. I'm not sure which gray mall-looking thing you're talking about, but I think most of the boring gray malls in this trailer are the Inhuman Moon Base, apart from a couple of shots that seem to show the atrium of Hawaii State Capitol building (square building, waffle-looking ceilings).
Ramsay Bolton does seem to be on earth at one point, but it's a really brief night shot, so who knows where he is.
And also, just to be totally clear, there are in fact boring gray malls in Hawaii, though I didn't see any of them in this trailer.
posted by tobascodagama at 2:29 PM on June 29, 2017
Ramsay Bolton does seem to be on earth at one point, but it's a really brief night shot, so who knows where he is.
And also, just to be totally clear, there are in fact boring gray malls in Hawaii, though I didn't see any of them in this trailer.
posted by tobascodagama at 2:29 PM on June 29, 2017
BTW if you are on the wall about Legion just go for it, it's great.
I followed this advice the other night and was halfway through a weird mashup of Baghdad Cafe, the Book of Revelations and John Wick before I realised there's also a film with that name.
posted by Sebmojo at 2:41 PM on June 29, 2017 [2 favorites]
I followed this advice the other night and was halfway through a weird mashup of Baghdad Cafe, the Book of Revelations and John Wick before I realised there's also a film with that name.
posted by Sebmojo at 2:41 PM on June 29, 2017 [2 favorites]
Are the inhumans supposed to be like, really old? or did I make that up? Wikipedia is being unhelpful.
Anyone point being I want to nerd-snipe about the dog looking like a bulldog from the past century or so if it's supposed to be much older than that.
posted by vibratory manner of working at 2:55 PM on June 29, 2017
Anyone point being I want to nerd-snipe about the dog looking like a bulldog from the past century or so if it's supposed to be much older than that.
posted by vibratory manner of working at 2:55 PM on June 29, 2017
doggo is a big ol pupper
posted by entropicamericana at 3:03 PM on June 29, 2017 [3 favorites]
posted by entropicamericana at 3:03 PM on June 29, 2017 [3 favorites]
We don't even know if the dog is a dog.
You've been talking to Ben Grimm, haven't you?
posted by Guy Smiley at 3:22 PM on June 29, 2017 [1 favorite]
You've been talking to Ben Grimm, haven't you?
posted by Guy Smiley at 3:22 PM on June 29, 2017 [1 favorite]
Definitely looked like a trailer for an ABC TV series. I don't know much about Inhumans except for the awesome angler fish dog, and is Voice Guy called Black Bolt? Pretty sure he was in something I read. Or maybe he was an NPC in Ultimate Alliance? Man, that game was rad as hell (fact: the first Ultimate Alliance was ten times better than the second).
posted by turbid dahlia at 3:23 PM on June 29, 2017
posted by turbid dahlia at 3:23 PM on June 29, 2017
...like Moon Knight for new shows...
So easy to do, too! Earth-based, simple costume, could be done with minimal CGI, season-long mystery-solving arc like Sherlock, some fights, and can't Moon Knight be different people? So it would basically be Dr Who, you would have a different actor playing Moonie each season, and maybe even - GASP - Moon Knight could be a woman or dude of colour. Nobody knows enough about Moon Knight for it to matter.
posted by turbid dahlia at 3:30 PM on June 29, 2017 [5 favorites]
So easy to do, too! Earth-based, simple costume, could be done with minimal CGI, season-long mystery-solving arc like Sherlock, some fights, and can't Moon Knight be different people? So it would basically be Dr Who, you would have a different actor playing Moonie each season, and maybe even - GASP - Moon Knight could be a woman or dude of colour. Nobody knows enough about Moon Knight for it to matter.
posted by turbid dahlia at 3:30 PM on June 29, 2017 [5 favorites]
Yeah, you could play with it. He does have airships and whatnot (he's basically a more mentally damaged Batman) and some of the really cool moments are when he encounters Khonshu, so there might be a bit of a budget there.
They could start with the single issue stories Ellis did, then if they had the budget, transition into the more recent stuff where he's going against Khonshu and trying to manage his illness.
Moon Knight is one of two characters (the other is Swamp Thing) that would make kickass movies or shows if someone adapted the comics right, but there's basically a small circle of hardcore fans like me and then everyone else who doesn't give a shit.
posted by middleclasstool at 3:48 PM on June 29, 2017 [2 favorites]
They could start with the single issue stories Ellis did, then if they had the budget, transition into the more recent stuff where he's going against Khonshu and trying to manage his illness.
Moon Knight is one of two characters (the other is Swamp Thing) that would make kickass movies or shows if someone adapted the comics right, but there's basically a small circle of hardcore fans like me and then everyone else who doesn't give a shit.
posted by middleclasstool at 3:48 PM on June 29, 2017 [2 favorites]
I mean, who gave a shit about the guardians of the galaxy before the movie? The MCU is deeply (creatively) conservative to a degree that positively strangles the very concept of fun. DCU is even worse. Maybe it's time to actually try something new instead of a bunch of calculated money grabs.
posted by codacorolla at 3:58 PM on June 29, 2017 [3 favorites]
posted by codacorolla at 3:58 PM on June 29, 2017 [3 favorites]
Sheesh.
posted by ogooglebar at 4:15 PM on June 29, 2017
posted by ogooglebar at 4:15 PM on June 29, 2017
My recollections of Black Bolt in the comic are mostly of him sitting around looking pensive while Medusa describes what he's maybe feeling or thinking and also repeatedly reminding everyone (including Black Bolt) that his slightest whisper could be catastrophic. Of all the brooding superheroes, he was the broodiest almost to the point of parody. And Medusa mostly existed to call him "my love" and hold onto his bicep while her hair looked fabulous.
It felt like the point of the characters was "lets introduce a fuck-ton of super-powered characters all at the same time - don't wrote about personalities." Basically, the Inhumans are the NPCs of the Marvel Universe.
posted by Joey Michaels at 4:51 PM on June 29, 2017 [4 favorites]
It felt like the point of the characters was "lets introduce a fuck-ton of super-powered characters all at the same time - don't wrote about personalities." Basically, the Inhumans are the NPCs of the Marvel Universe.
posted by Joey Michaels at 4:51 PM on June 29, 2017 [4 favorites]
It's driving me crazy that my google-fu is failing me here, but my favorite Blackbolt moment that has stuck with me for years: I want to say it was in the Vision/Scarlet Witch 12 issue miniseries from the 80s maybe? (Which is amazing and worth the read, it's so weird.) If I'm remembering correctly, the scene takes place between Blackbolt and Crystal. She's leaving (possibly to marry Quicksilver?) and Blackbolt flies her out to a super desolate part of the moon so he can talk. Because talking is a big traumatic deal for him, given his powers. And he sets her down and just whispers "Stay". (Or maybe it was "Don't go" or "I love you" or similar.) And of course it sends out this big shockwave but its intent is to demonstrate how important she is to him and how much he loves her. That scene has always stuck with me for its power and sentiment (though it's maddening that I can no longer remember the details).
posted by skycrashesdown at 5:06 PM on June 29, 2017
posted by skycrashesdown at 5:06 PM on June 29, 2017
>Don't give me a cool dad in a motorcycle jacket frowning a lot.
...and getting beat up by police with, like, lecture pointer sticks. It's not the 1970s,
It's funny you should mention BB's confrontation with the 5-0 and the 1970s, because at that scene, I figured we are in for some corny "right to remain silent" joke in the dialogue followed by a Black Bolt double take.
posted by ricochet biscuit at 6:30 PM on June 29, 2017 [2 favorites]
...and getting beat up by police with, like, lecture pointer sticks. It's not the 1970s,
It's funny you should mention BB's confrontation with the 5-0 and the 1970s, because at that scene, I figured we are in for some corny "right to remain silent" joke in the dialogue followed by a Black Bolt double take.
posted by ricochet biscuit at 6:30 PM on June 29, 2017 [2 favorites]
Or maybe a record scratch noise.
posted by ricochet biscuit at 6:31 PM on June 29, 2017 [2 favorites]
posted by ricochet biscuit at 6:31 PM on June 29, 2017 [2 favorites]
Also, Agents of Shield was firing on all cylinders this past season.
I bailed halfway through the second season, it's just so damn bland that I couldn't go on.
posted by octothorpe at 6:45 PM on June 29, 2017
I bailed halfway through the second season, it's just so damn bland that I couldn't go on.
posted by octothorpe at 6:45 PM on June 29, 2017
Supergirl is an entirely different creature from the Flash/Arrow shared universe -- optimistic, with a hero who's actually dedicated to the idea of heroism.
You have never actually watched The Flash, have you?
(As I see it, and one of the reasons I dig on the Arrowverse shows, is that Ollie/Arrow is the grimdark "make the tough decisions" hero, Flash is "ALWAYS THE RIGHT THING (unless it is time travel) hero (that also makes human choices and errors)", and Legends are the "Time machine! DERP!" heroes.)
posted by Samizdata at 7:32 PM on June 29, 2017
You have never actually watched The Flash, have you?
(As I see it, and one of the reasons I dig on the Arrowverse shows, is that Ollie/Arrow is the grimdark "make the tough decisions" hero, Flash is "ALWAYS THE RIGHT THING (unless it is time travel) hero (that also makes human choices and errors)", and Legends are the "Time machine! DERP!" heroes.)
posted by Samizdata at 7:32 PM on June 29, 2017
I'd love it if they'd give some of their weirder, riskier characters to weird, risky writers and directors
You know what I want? A campy Spiderman Netflix series. Like a step up from 60's Batman. 70's Spiderman comics had tons of amazing, ridiculous enemies and Peter Parker is really a character that needs to breathe over the course of a series so we can see him struggle to pay for gas, deal with college, deal with girls, deal with trying to care for Aunt May, etc. But instead we get yet another reboot of his origin story over and over and over every 5 years. I want a series to wallow in the day to day, to have episodes where he doesn't even suit up. I want the WB presents Spiderman. That would be excelsior!
posted by lubujackson at 8:36 PM on June 29, 2017 [4 favorites]
You know what I want? A campy Spiderman Netflix series. Like a step up from 60's Batman. 70's Spiderman comics had tons of amazing, ridiculous enemies and Peter Parker is really a character that needs to breathe over the course of a series so we can see him struggle to pay for gas, deal with college, deal with girls, deal with trying to care for Aunt May, etc. But instead we get yet another reboot of his origin story over and over and over every 5 years. I want a series to wallow in the day to day, to have episodes where he doesn't even suit up. I want the WB presents Spiderman. That would be excelsior!
posted by lubujackson at 8:36 PM on June 29, 2017 [4 favorites]
I'm looking forward to seeing Not Brand Echh on screen in a couple years.
posted by The Hamms Bear at 11:27 PM on June 29, 2017 [3 favorites]
posted by The Hamms Bear at 11:27 PM on June 29, 2017 [3 favorites]
On a more serious "WB presents" note I'd like to see them make Spider-Man Loves Mary Jane an on-screen thing.
posted by The Hamms Bear at 11:30 PM on June 29, 2017 [1 favorite]
posted by The Hamms Bear at 11:30 PM on June 29, 2017 [1 favorite]
We don't even know if the dog is a dog.
It's the internet, so by definition: undefined.
posted by rokusan at 2:09 AM on June 30, 2017 [1 favorite]
It's the internet, so by definition: undefined.
posted by rokusan at 2:09 AM on June 30, 2017 [1 favorite]
I'd love it if they'd give some of their weirder, riskier characters to weird, risky writers and directors
Give me a chance to make a Strikeforce: Motituri series. I have story ideas that will leave audiences enraged and engaged.
posted by Joey Michaels at 2:53 AM on June 30, 2017 [1 favorite]
Give me a chance to make a Strikeforce: Motituri series. I have story ideas that will leave audiences enraged and engaged.
posted by Joey Michaels at 2:53 AM on June 30, 2017 [1 favorite]
You have never actually watched The Flash, have you?
I have, and I defy you to tell me that Barry is dedicated to any single ideal other than his creepy-ass crush on Iris.
posted by Holy Zarquon's Singing Fish at 6:09 AM on June 30, 2017 [3 favorites]
I have, and I defy you to tell me that Barry is dedicated to any single ideal other than his creepy-ass crush on Iris.
posted by Holy Zarquon's Singing Fish at 6:09 AM on June 30, 2017 [3 favorites]
They're good inexplicably-dog-shaped-Inhumans, Brent.
posted by tobascodagama at 6:23 AM on June 30, 2017 [4 favorites]
posted by tobascodagama at 6:23 AM on June 30, 2017 [4 favorites]
codacorolla: who gave a shit about the guardians of the galaxy before the movie?
Dan Abnett and Andy Lanning, who are responsible for the team that the movie was developed from, which is completely different from the original GotG. (With the arguable exception of Yondu, who had a small part in the first movie and a bigger one in the second.) In fact, Marvel had a whole "Marvel Cosmic" thing going on, starting out with Annihilation, and growing to include a lot of the space-based characters created by Lee and Kirby, Jim Starlin, and others, including, dig if U will, the Inhumans.
To get to your larger point, about the alleged creative bankruptcy of Marvel and DC, I'm with the line of thought, discussed much on the blue in the last year or so (such as in this thread), that the real problem isn't with creativity, but in the ability of the parent company to effectively market and retail the product. Hell, right now Marvel has at least two writers that are straight outta webcomics--Ryan "Dinosaur Comics" North and Christopher "Dr. McNinja" Hastings--who are working for them right now (Squirrel Girl and Gwenpool, respectively), and maybe more that I can't think of off the top of my head. But the marketing and sales department have no idea what to do with anything that isn't just riffing off of the same old characters doing the same old things.
posted by Halloween Jack at 8:08 AM on June 30, 2017 [5 favorites]
Dan Abnett and Andy Lanning, who are responsible for the team that the movie was developed from, which is completely different from the original GotG. (With the arguable exception of Yondu, who had a small part in the first movie and a bigger one in the second.) In fact, Marvel had a whole "Marvel Cosmic" thing going on, starting out with Annihilation, and growing to include a lot of the space-based characters created by Lee and Kirby, Jim Starlin, and others, including, dig if U will, the Inhumans.
To get to your larger point, about the alleged creative bankruptcy of Marvel and DC, I'm with the line of thought, discussed much on the blue in the last year or so (such as in this thread), that the real problem isn't with creativity, but in the ability of the parent company to effectively market and retail the product. Hell, right now Marvel has at least two writers that are straight outta webcomics--Ryan "Dinosaur Comics" North and Christopher "Dr. McNinja" Hastings--who are working for them right now (Squirrel Girl and Gwenpool, respectively), and maybe more that I can't think of off the top of my head. But the marketing and sales department have no idea what to do with anything that isn't just riffing off of the same old characters doing the same old things.
posted by Halloween Jack at 8:08 AM on June 30, 2017 [5 favorites]
his creepy-ass crush on Iris
You mean his FOSTER SISTER with whom he he has had carnal relations?
posted by Megafly at 11:38 AM on June 30, 2017 [1 favorite]
You mean his FOSTER SISTER with whom he he has had carnal relations?
posted by Megafly at 11:38 AM on June 30, 2017 [1 favorite]
Okay, presumably that happened after I bailed on the current season. And....god dammit, Berlanti.
posted by Holy Zarquon's Singing Fish at 11:41 AM on June 30, 2017
posted by Holy Zarquon's Singing Fish at 11:41 AM on June 30, 2017
I'm looking forward to seeing Not Brand Echh on screen in a couple years.
SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!
posted by lumpenprole at 1:14 PM on June 30, 2017
SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!
posted by lumpenprole at 1:14 PM on June 30, 2017
How about a Jack of Hearts series? No? Doctor Druid based on the mini -series where he's dead in a dumpster at the end? Resurrection Man?
posted by Joey Michaels at 7:02 PM on June 30, 2017
posted by Joey Michaels at 7:02 PM on June 30, 2017
Are there any of the DC TV shows worth mentioning in the same breath as Luke Cage, Jessica Jones and 1st season Daredevil?
I'm really digging Arrow s5, which I'm about 2/3s of the way through, if only because it takes a lot of the things that frustrated me about Arrow s1 and casts them as fuckups in Oliver's past that he now has to cope with the consequences of, which is about as Green Arrow as you can get. However, he still hasn't made a single batch of spicy chili, so it still isn't perfect.
posted by EatTheWeek at 1:42 PM on July 1, 2017 [1 favorite]
I'm really digging Arrow s5, which I'm about 2/3s of the way through, if only because it takes a lot of the things that frustrated me about Arrow s1 and casts them as fuckups in Oliver's past that he now has to cope with the consequences of, which is about as Green Arrow as you can get. However, he still hasn't made a single batch of spicy chili, so it still isn't perfect.
posted by EatTheWeek at 1:42 PM on July 1, 2017 [1 favorite]
Inhumans Shows Off a New Trailer and a Ton of Footage That Raises the Verdict From 'Bad' to 'Meh'
posted by Artw at 6:22 AM on July 21, 2017
posted by Artw at 6:22 AM on July 21, 2017
That title of the article says it all, the show looks incredibly meh. It's as if someone wrote a great script and then it was handed to someone else as a challenge: "Hey, make this as bland and uninteresting as possible. No seriously, go hog wild on the mehness, we need you to make this look totally uninteresting despite having some heavy duty acting talent."
posted by Brandon Blatcher at 6:58 AM on July 21, 2017
posted by Brandon Blatcher at 6:58 AM on July 21, 2017
Medusa's hair somehow looks even worse in motion.
posted by Holy Zarquon's Singing Fish at 8:18 AM on July 21, 2017 [1 favorite]
posted by Holy Zarquon's Singing Fish at 8:18 AM on July 21, 2017 [1 favorite]
And yet that spray-painted black stripe on Crystal's hair somehow manages to look even sillier (although my inner fanboy is pleased that they went ahead and gave her that weird signature pattern in her hair).
I think Lockjaw's teleporting FX looks kinda cool, though.
posted by straight at 10:24 AM on July 21, 2017
I think Lockjaw's teleporting FX looks kinda cool, though.
posted by straight at 10:24 AM on July 21, 2017
In other, happier Marvel trailer news: The God of Thunder gets his groove back in the new Thor: Ragnarok trailer
posted by homunculus at 5:38 PM on July 23, 2017
posted by homunculus at 5:38 PM on July 23, 2017
Warning: that Thor trailer is the kind of trailer that seems to give away the entire movie, so if you want to see it unsullied (if that's even possible anymore), you may want to give it a pass.
posted by homunculus at 6:04 PM on July 23, 2017 [1 favorite]
posted by homunculus at 6:04 PM on July 23, 2017 [1 favorite]
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