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	<title>Comments on: Comments on 16848</title>
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	<pubDate>Thu, 02 May 2002 18:34:13 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Post number 16848</title>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/05/02/doodle.death.threat.ap/index.html"&gt;yet another victory for school boards against terrorism...&lt;/a&gt;  an 11 year old girl is suspended for three days after drawing &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.stickdeath.com/&quot; target=&quot;parent&quot; alt=&quot;stickdeath.com&quot;&gt;stick figures&lt;/a&gt; of her teachers with arrows in their heads after receiving a D on a vocabulary test. ie, more of this &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/mefi/16795&quot; target=&quot;parent&quot;&gt;zero&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/comments.mefi/16137&quot; target=&quot;parent&quot;&gt;tolerance&lt;/a&gt; crap.
good thing my teachers never looked in my folders... i&apos;d surely be in Arkham Asylum by now if they had...</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 May 2002 18:30:51 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>sixtwenty3dc</dc:creator>		<category>brokenlink</category>		<category>terror</category>
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		<title>By: Yelling At Nothing</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/16848/#270234</link>	
		<description>We&apos;ve had this discussion so many times that I can barely manage to keep getting worked up about it, but...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I only wonder if they talked to the parents &lt;i&gt;before&lt;/i&gt; handing this girl the suspension?</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 May 2002 18:34:13 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: donkeyschlong</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/16848/#270239</link>	
		<description>The schools seem to be overreacting now because they&apos;ve screwed up so many times before. &apos;Twould be nice if they could formulate a measured, comprehensive response.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 May 2002 18:42:31 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: spidre</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/16848/#270246</link>	
		<description>This is really obnoxious... but most well balanced individuals can see that.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 May 2002 18:54:58 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: rushmc</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/16848/#270248</link>	
		<description>Won&apos;t someone think of the &lt;b&gt;children&lt;/b&gt;??</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 May 2002 19:06:27 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Poagao</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/16848/#270258</link>	
		<description>&lt;b&gt;Terrorism!&lt;/b&gt; It&apos;s all the rage!

Don&apos;t like something? Well, don&apos;t just sit there, do something about it! Call it &lt;b&gt;Terrorism&lt;/b&gt;(tm), and the US Government will sweep down and eliminate it for you, leaving nothing but the fresh scent of pine!

&lt;b&gt;Terrorism!&lt;/b&gt; You don&apos;t have to take it anymore. The next time you come across something that irks you...remember, we&apos;ll be there for you!



(Yeah, I work at an advertising company and have way too much time....why?)</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 May 2002 19:37:12 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: quonsar</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/16848/#270268</link>	
		<description>why not let the &lt;a href=&quot;mailto:gsmartschan@mtlebanon.k12.pa.us&quot;&gt;asshole&lt;/a&gt; know what you think?</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 May 2002 20:10:15 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Dreama</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/16848/#270270</link>	
		<description>This is a local story for me, and I was struck this evening, as I saw this little girl and her mother on the news, by the fact that this little girl had done exactly what child psychologists and &lt;em&gt;educators&lt;/em&gt; have been recommending for children for years -- she had feelings that she knew that she couldn&apos;t (or shouldn&apos;t) express in words, so she expressed them via a drawing.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/tribune-review/news/s_69239.html&quot;&gt;Local coverage is here&lt;/a&gt;, a bit more in depth.  I&apos;m struck by the wisdom of the mother&apos;s comment:

&lt;em&gt;&quot;Kids aren&apos;t allowed to be kids anymore. ... They&apos;re not supposed to act like children, speak like children, behave like children.  They considered this a terroristic threat, which was just ludicrous.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

The little girl did what she was told, the picture was inadvertantly seen, and now the perception of this little girl is that she is a potential threat.  Better that she act like an adult -- suppress all of her feelings, stuff them down and swallow them, don&apos;t be an emotional little kid.  Then what?  Then develop a mind full of neuroses, a stomach full of ulcers, and end up on prozac and Tagamet before her 13th birthday.

Everyday, so-called educators prove that they have no concept how children function, and should be permitted to function so that they can grow into reasonably well-adjusted adults.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 May 2002 20:15:31 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: rushmc</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/16848/#270281</link>	
		<description>Repression:  It Does A Body Good.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 May 2002 21:00:28 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: schlyer</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/16848/#270292</link>	
		<description>Maybe a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tampatrib.com/FloridaMetro/MGA4L6W1Q0D.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;haircut would calm the girl down&lt;/a&gt;.  It seemed to work for the Al Qaeda guys @ Gitmo.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 May 2002 21:28:57 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: shepd</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/16848/#270293</link>	
		<description>Well, I&apos;ve only got one thing to say to that student:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://salon.com/comics/tomo/2002/04/01/tomo/index.html&quot;&gt;Why do you hate america &lt;i&gt;so much&lt;/i&gt;?&lt;/a&gt;

;)</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 May 2002 21:42:23 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ZachsMind</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/16848/#270353</link>	
		<description>When I was a kid we used to draw mean teacher pictures that would pale in comparison to &quot;arrows in their heads.&quot; Of course back then, no students had actually mowed down a school with illegal firearms. The worst I recall happening was the occasional food fight involving plasticware. 

If they didn&apos;t get proactive about stuff like this now, and the girl actually did act out her feelings, then the school administrators would get yelled at for not having done something when there were &apos;clues.&apos; Damned if ya do damned if ya don&apos;t. It must suck to be an educator nowadays. Oh wait. Less than $20K a year is still the average salary for a teacher last I checked. 

It&apos;s always sucked, hasn&apos;t it?

In my senior year there were three casualties among the high school students of the city. Two in my alma mater. One in the school across town. A kid walked into class one day with a gun and killed himself. A kid was working part time at a pizzaria and accidently shot himself playing with the owner&apos;s gun. A kid was late to work racing on a two lane bridge trying to get around another car and ran into a utility truck. I&apos;m not aware of doodles having anything to do with those incidents.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 May 2002 23:29:53 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: junkbox</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/16848/#270493</link>	
		<description>How can parents have any confidence sending their child to a school more interested in protecting itself than protecting its children? It&apos;s stories like this - not the tragedies like Columbine - that make the best argument for homeschooling or private education.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 May 2002 06:49:03 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: rushmc</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/16848/#270549</link>	
		<description>Don&apos;t forget the utterly dismal quality of the education being offered itself.  That&apos;s a pretty persuasive argument too.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 May 2002 07:48:32 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: poseur</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/16848/#270616</link>	
		<description>It is but a small step from drawing pictures of people you like, mutilated, to designing yourself a skin-tight outfit so you can go out and get punched in the nose by Batman. I agree. I agree wholeheartedly. Nip this problem in the bud, yes. (&lt;i&gt;Arkham Asylum?&lt;/i&gt;)</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 May 2002 09:24:08 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: sixtwenty3dc</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/16848/#270722</link>	
		<description>re: Arkham Asylum, i was merely meaning that if a teacher had looked in my notebook during my grade school years they would have tried to send me to the looniest of loony bins to join the ranks of the legendary &quot;patients&quot; there. it sounded better than saying &quot;be sent to &lt;i&gt;community mental health clinic&lt;/i&gt;.&quot;</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 May 2002 11:18:30 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: rushmc</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/16848/#270926</link>	
		<description>I was diggin&apos; the reference, sixtwenty3dc.  I can just see the next archsupervillain in Gotham:  &lt;b&gt;the Doodler&lt;/b&gt;!</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 May 2002 15:19:26 -0800</pubDate>
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