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The Definitive Sandwich Family Tree - a taxonomy by MeFi's own The Whelk.
Okay, this chart has raised a concern for me - I have never seen a square knish. Have I been eating inauthentic ones all along? I've had round ones and sort of blob oval ones but nothing square.
posted by Frowner at 7:50 AM on September 2, 2017 [4 favorites]
posted by Frowner at 7:50 AM on September 2, 2017 [4 favorites]
That's not what a burrito looks like. Meat should be fully enclosed with carbs on all sides and then wrapped in foil.
posted by w0mbat at 7:54 AM on September 2, 2017 [6 favorites]
posted by w0mbat at 7:54 AM on September 2, 2017 [6 favorites]
The presence of pizza on the chart marks this as master-level trolling.
posted by Nelson at 7:56 AM on September 2, 2017 [28 favorites]
posted by Nelson at 7:56 AM on September 2, 2017 [28 favorites]
Empanadas could also be included. I think they are their own kind of thing.
posted by cazoo at 8:00 AM on September 2, 2017 [1 favorite]
posted by cazoo at 8:00 AM on September 2, 2017 [1 favorite]
So here we are, the Whelk has helpfully attempted to resolve all our sandwich bickerings and all we do is nit pick (knish pick?). The moral of this story is never help anyone.
I am eating a fry-it-yourself radish pancake (from the frozen case at the pan-Asian grocery, for those of you who are not familiar with such items). It wins the "which of the filled frozen pancakes are the tastiest" competition I've been running on an informal basis, and I made a second one to celebrate its sandwich qualities.
posted by Frowner at 8:02 AM on September 2, 2017 [9 favorites]
I am eating a fry-it-yourself radish pancake (from the frozen case at the pan-Asian grocery, for those of you who are not familiar with such items). It wins the "which of the filled frozen pancakes are the tastiest" competition I've been running on an informal basis, and I made a second one to celebrate its sandwich qualities.
posted by Frowner at 8:02 AM on September 2, 2017 [9 favorites]
So tacos and hot dogs belong to a family of proto sandwiches that separated from true sandwiches 800 million years ago.
posted by ActingTheGoat at 8:09 AM on September 2, 2017 [10 favorites]
posted by ActingTheGoat at 8:09 AM on September 2, 2017 [10 favorites]
Which thread will contain more arguments and pedantry, this one or a politics thread?
posted by AFABulous at 8:11 AM on September 2, 2017 [7 favorites]
posted by AFABulous at 8:11 AM on September 2, 2017 [7 favorites]
I see the roll/bap/bun/barm/muffin/cob/teacake/batch controversy is avoided (it's a roll unless it's a big roll, then it's a bap... or it's really crusty, then it's a cob... or if it's got currents in it, then it's a teacake)
posted by fearfulsymmetry at 8:24 AM on September 2, 2017 [1 favorite]
posted by fearfulsymmetry at 8:24 AM on September 2, 2017 [1 favorite]
So tacos and hot dogs belong to a family of proto sandwiches
Yes. The main distinction therein is that modern hot dogs came to be after countless generations of selective breeding while tacos domesticated themselves.
posted by The Potate at 8:28 AM on September 2, 2017 [21 favorites]
Yes. The main distinction therein is that modern hot dogs came to be after countless generations of selective breeding while tacos domesticated themselves.
posted by The Potate at 8:28 AM on September 2, 2017 [21 favorites]
Bahn Mi seems to be miscategorised.
In my experience, most Bahn Mi do not have the bread fully cut in half, into two "fully separated carbs". Instead a slit is cute down one side only or diagonally akin to a Bratwurst mit Bröt / Hotdog.
posted by mary8nne at 8:41 AM on September 2, 2017 [6 favorites]
In my experience, most Bahn Mi do not have the bread fully cut in half, into two "fully separated carbs". Instead a slit is cute down one side only or diagonally akin to a Bratwurst mit Bröt / Hotdog.
posted by mary8nne at 8:41 AM on September 2, 2017 [6 favorites]
the error is partly forgiven due to the genius of including Pizza as an "open faced cheese sandwich".
posted by mary8nne at 8:43 AM on September 2, 2017 [3 favorites]
posted by mary8nne at 8:43 AM on September 2, 2017 [3 favorites]
I think I would have included tamales in S. Inclusum...
posted by jim in austin at 8:45 AM on September 2, 2017 [4 favorites]
posted by jim in austin at 8:45 AM on September 2, 2017 [4 favorites]
I see the roll/bap/bun/barm/muffin/cob/teacake/batch controversy is avoided (it's a roll unless it's a big roll, then it's a bap... or it's really crusty, then it's a cob... or if it's got currents in it, then it's a teacake)
Just don't get me started. I still maintain that in the U.S., biscuits generally shouldn't be touted for their "flaky layers".
Ever since that demonic Pillsbury sprite started hawking biscuits in tube form, people have come to expect that a biscuit should come undone in thin layers. And to fix those, it involves preparations like chilling butter, cutting it into the dough, layering the dough. Them's pastry techniques, y'all! PASTRY. TECHNIQUES.
I grew up in the South. Biscuits are a quick bread. Drop biscuits you whup up in the cast iron skillet at a moment's notice! Big ol' puffy cat-head biscuits with sausage gravy and fried eggs! Substantial. Something that can stand up to a serious appetite.
Something that doesn't smugly say "Oh, look at me, aren't I so delicate and precious and neatly layered? Why, I might as well be made of phyllo dough and sprinkled with rose water! Don't you want to videotape it in slow motion as you gently separate my layers to spread jam on my thin, lamellar smoothness?" GET A ROOM!
Though, it must be said, those Pillsbury Southern Style Biscuits in a can, while the Devil's work, sure are tasty.
posted by darkstar at 8:49 AM on September 2, 2017 [20 favorites]
Just don't get me started. I still maintain that in the U.S., biscuits generally shouldn't be touted for their "flaky layers".
Ever since that demonic Pillsbury sprite started hawking biscuits in tube form, people have come to expect that a biscuit should come undone in thin layers. And to fix those, it involves preparations like chilling butter, cutting it into the dough, layering the dough. Them's pastry techniques, y'all! PASTRY. TECHNIQUES.
I grew up in the South. Biscuits are a quick bread. Drop biscuits you whup up in the cast iron skillet at a moment's notice! Big ol' puffy cat-head biscuits with sausage gravy and fried eggs! Substantial. Something that can stand up to a serious appetite.
Something that doesn't smugly say "Oh, look at me, aren't I so delicate and precious and neatly layered? Why, I might as well be made of phyllo dough and sprinkled with rose water! Don't you want to videotape it in slow motion as you gently separate my layers to spread jam on my thin, lamellar smoothness?" GET A ROOM!
Though, it must be said, those Pillsbury Southern Style Biscuits in a can, while the Devil's work, sure are tasty.
posted by darkstar at 8:49 AM on September 2, 2017 [20 favorites]
Sorry old boy, not got a clue what you are on about... biscuits are for dunking in your tea, surely?
(And no a Jaffa cake is not a biscuit - clue is in the name)
posted by fearfulsymmetry at 9:07 AM on September 2, 2017 [4 favorites]
(And no a Jaffa cake is not a biscuit - clue is in the name)
posted by fearfulsymmetry at 9:07 AM on September 2, 2017 [4 favorites]
I don't really understand how a burrito and a crepe are phylogenetically heterogenous.
posted by jacquilynne at 9:12 AM on September 2, 2017 [2 favorites]
posted by jacquilynne at 9:12 AM on September 2, 2017 [2 favorites]
This is global level master trolling.
Pedantry: smorgasbord is literally a table of smörgåsar. One of them is a smörgås. Which reminds me that the Swedes make smörgås-layercakes, which is insane but not a joke. I don't know where they fit into the taxonomy
posted by mumimor at 9:13 AM on September 2, 2017 [3 favorites]
Pedantry: smorgasbord is literally a table of smörgåsar. One of them is a smörgås. Which reminds me that the Swedes make smörgås-layercakes, which is insane but not a joke. I don't know where they fit into the taxonomy
posted by mumimor at 9:13 AM on September 2, 2017 [3 favorites]
As a biologist I would also like to take issue with the rather unusual configuration of what purports to be a phylogentic tree.
posted by quaking fajita at 9:13 AM on September 2, 2017 [6 favorites]
posted by quaking fajita at 9:13 AM on September 2, 2017 [6 favorites]
Um, I don't see sushi rolls on here
posted by oulipian at 9:13 AM on September 2, 2017 [3 favorites]
posted by oulipian at 9:13 AM on September 2, 2017 [3 favorites]
that's a smørrebrød if ever i've seen one :)
but, more importantly, breaded proteins such as chicken cordon blu,etc., fall where on this chart?
posted by alchemist at 9:31 AM on September 2, 2017
but, more importantly, breaded proteins such as chicken cordon blu,etc., fall where on this chart?
posted by alchemist at 9:31 AM on September 2, 2017
hot dogs belong to a family of proto sandwiches that separated from true sandwiches 800 million years ago.
I'm pretty sure some of those hot dogs have been going around on convenience store rotisserie warmers for the entirety of those 800 million years, too.
In addition to the bahn mi miscategorization, I've had a few tortas that were not sliced 100% through.
Given that plenty of totally non-sandwich items were included, I'd argue for the additional inclusion of Ethiopian injera with tasty stuff on top. Not only is it analogous to an enormous open-faced sandwich, you eat it by making dozens of tiny little sandwiches as you use pieces of the injera to pick up the tasty stuff.
posted by Dip Flash at 9:42 AM on September 2, 2017 [2 favorites]
I'm pretty sure some of those hot dogs have been going around on convenience store rotisserie warmers for the entirety of those 800 million years, too.
In addition to the bahn mi miscategorization, I've had a few tortas that were not sliced 100% through.
Given that plenty of totally non-sandwich items were included, I'd argue for the additional inclusion of Ethiopian injera with tasty stuff on top. Not only is it analogous to an enormous open-faced sandwich, you eat it by making dozens of tiny little sandwiches as you use pieces of the injera to pick up the tasty stuff.
posted by Dip Flash at 9:42 AM on September 2, 2017 [2 favorites]
As a good biologist I attemped to identify deep structure, not superficial simularity although colleagues on Twitter who have noted that Pizza is the only example in S. Planus where the "filling" and dough are cooked together and thus probably the result of covergent meal evolution worthy of its own category - I think splitters are quitter but there is a case to be made.
Also, I will share this email
"Dear Sir,
I wish to protest in strongest possible terms your placement of the French Dip in the category S. Breve. I am a lifelong consumer and aficionado of French Dips, and can attest that they are clearly S. Vulgaris, or “true sandwiches.” They differ from other sandwiches in their method of consumption—i.e. dipped into au jus—but not their construction.
In its place, I would humbly submit a New England contribution to American cuisine, the crab or lobster roll. This is clearly an example of a sandwich whose “filling is mostly exposed, carb remains connected.”"
They have a point, a lobster roll is a much better example of S. Breve
posted by The Whelk at 9:47 AM on September 2, 2017 [13 favorites]
Also, I will share this email
"Dear Sir,
I wish to protest in strongest possible terms your placement of the French Dip in the category S. Breve. I am a lifelong consumer and aficionado of French Dips, and can attest that they are clearly S. Vulgaris, or “true sandwiches.” They differ from other sandwiches in their method of consumption—i.e. dipped into au jus—but not their construction.
In its place, I would humbly submit a New England contribution to American cuisine, the crab or lobster roll. This is clearly an example of a sandwich whose “filling is mostly exposed, carb remains connected.”"
They have a point, a lobster roll is a much better example of S. Breve
posted by The Whelk at 9:47 AM on September 2, 2017 [13 favorites]
If we are talking about carb-attached fillings, or carb-surrounded fillings, how granular may the carbs be, and to what degree must the the fillings be surrounded?
I'm thinking of risotto, or possibly paella.
*ducks*
posted by darkstar at 9:56 AM on September 2, 2017 [1 favorite]
I'm thinking of risotto, or possibly paella.
*ducks*
posted by darkstar at 9:56 AM on September 2, 2017 [1 favorite]
Dr. Whelk,
What about calzones and stromboli? Where would they fit into your phylogeny?
Sincerely,
Your very curious grad student
posted by strelitzia at 10:24 AM on September 2, 2017 [4 favorites]
What about calzones and stromboli? Where would they fit into your phylogeny?
Sincerely,
Your very curious grad student
posted by strelitzia at 10:24 AM on September 2, 2017 [4 favorites]
Dear Dr. Whelk,
If a pizza is a sandwich, is a pasty also a sandwich? Is a tart or tartlet (aka, a pie without a complete top crust) also a sandwich, and is the Yorkshire apple cake (a pie with a complete top crust) thereby also a sandwich?
posted by tel3path at 10:49 AM on September 2, 2017 [2 favorites]
If a pizza is a sandwich, is a pasty also a sandwich? Is a tart or tartlet (aka, a pie without a complete top crust) also a sandwich, and is the Yorkshire apple cake (a pie with a complete top crust) thereby also a sandwich?
posted by tel3path at 10:49 AM on September 2, 2017 [2 favorites]
My ex contended that every culture had a variation on a grilled cheese sandwich - e.g. quesadillas. These could have other ingredients but often stand on their own. Are there other examples?
posted by AFABulous at 10:53 AM on September 2, 2017
posted by AFABulous at 10:53 AM on September 2, 2017
My ex contended that every culture had a variation on a grilled cheese sandwich
Maybe if 'every culture' is redefined to mean 'every culture that eats some kind of cheese and some kind of bread'. There are plenty of cultures that don't have cheese, bread, or either as part of their diet.
Anyway: grilled halloumi can be served with pita in a wide range of eastern Mediterranean and Middle Eastern cultures. Supplì, arancini, and croquettes can all be filled with cheese.
posted by jedicus at 11:32 AM on September 2, 2017
Maybe if 'every culture' is redefined to mean 'every culture that eats some kind of cheese and some kind of bread'. There are plenty of cultures that don't have cheese, bread, or either as part of their diet.
Anyway: grilled halloumi can be served with pita in a wide range of eastern Mediterranean and Middle Eastern cultures. Supplì, arancini, and croquettes can all be filled with cheese.
posted by jedicus at 11:32 AM on September 2, 2017
Dr. Whelk,
Oh, oh! One more thing. As your dutiful grad student and in the interest of science, where would gluten-free specimens with a carapace consisting of, say, lettuce or cabbage fall in said systematics?
Many thanks,
I. M. Nerd
posted by strelitzia at 12:21 PM on September 2, 2017 [1 favorite]
Oh, oh! One more thing. As your dutiful grad student and in the interest of science, where would gluten-free specimens with a carapace consisting of, say, lettuce or cabbage fall in said systematics?
Many thanks,
I. M. Nerd
posted by strelitzia at 12:21 PM on September 2, 2017 [1 favorite]
May I suggest a final group of no top or bottom carb sandwiches that are just condiments squirted directly onto my tongue?
posted by Beardman at 12:31 PM on September 2, 2017 [4 favorites]
posted by Beardman at 12:31 PM on September 2, 2017 [4 favorites]
Dr. Whelk is certainly the most fearless of MeFites, willing to try to find sense in the riskiest of Internet Discussion Topics, whether it's Democratic Socialism, Hannibal, capes or sammiches. Most impressive was his way to show the relationships among dumplings, 'wraps' and open-faced... but yes, it needs to include sushi rolls, American subs, pot pies, egg rolls (and/or spring rolls) and, although it may seem culturally beneath him - Hot Pockets.
posted by oneswellfoop at 12:51 PM on September 2, 2017 [2 favorites]
posted by oneswellfoop at 12:51 PM on September 2, 2017 [2 favorites]
For every mention of the term phylogenetic, I had fun imagining "phyllogenetic", given the context.
Frowner: I have eaten square-shaped potato knishes, many times. Albeit, purchased from my local Hannaford, back when I lived in Delaware. I realize this does nothing to resolve authenticity concerns, but their shape was decidedly square. Coincidentally enough, I used them for sandwiches (!), with chicken salad as the filling. I was also pregnant at the time, so there's that. :D
darkstar: your biscuit rant was the laugh I needed today, thank you! It would be awesome if The Whelk immortalized that commentary with an illustration of two biscuits having such a confrontation. Ah, dreams. ;)
Thank you Artw for posting this, and to The Whelk for creating same. Looking forward to more via email!
... now I am craving a large open-faced cheese sandwich. Sigh.
posted by Amor Bellator at 1:07 PM on September 2, 2017 [2 favorites]
Frowner: I have eaten square-shaped potato knishes, many times. Albeit, purchased from my local Hannaford, back when I lived in Delaware. I realize this does nothing to resolve authenticity concerns, but their shape was decidedly square. Coincidentally enough, I used them for sandwiches (!), with chicken salad as the filling. I was also pregnant at the time, so there's that. :D
darkstar: your biscuit rant was the laugh I needed today, thank you! It would be awesome if The Whelk immortalized that commentary with an illustration of two biscuits having such a confrontation. Ah, dreams. ;)
Thank you Artw for posting this, and to The Whelk for creating same. Looking forward to more via email!
... now I am craving a large open-faced cheese sandwich. Sigh.
posted by Amor Bellator at 1:07 PM on September 2, 2017 [2 favorites]
Dear Dr. The Whelk,
At my bakery, I produce an item that needs classification. It is a croissant that is baked with the following items inside of it:
Corned Beef
Emmentaler Cheese
Sauerkraut
Russian Dressing
Dijon Mustard
Is it a sandwich? There are legal ramifications about its classification due to certain restrictions in my lease. Our signage reads "Reuben Croissant".
Thank you in advance for not classifying it as a sandwich.
I am, Yours, Etc.,
Stonestock Relentless
posted by Stonestock Relentless at 1:10 PM on September 2, 2017 [3 favorites]
At my bakery, I produce an item that needs classification. It is a croissant that is baked with the following items inside of it:
Corned Beef
Emmentaler Cheese
Sauerkraut
Russian Dressing
Dijon Mustard
Is it a sandwich? There are legal ramifications about its classification due to certain restrictions in my lease. Our signage reads "Reuben Croissant".
Thank you in advance for not classifying it as a sandwich.
I am, Yours, Etc.,
Stonestock Relentless
posted by Stonestock Relentless at 1:10 PM on September 2, 2017 [3 favorites]
As a taxonomist, I can't make heads or tails of that as a tree. As a former Long Islander, I will note that I used to buy potato knish sandwiches; knishes sawed entirely in two, filled with meat and melted cheese. [You can only eat those once a year or you will die]
posted by acrasis at 1:56 PM on September 2, 2017 [1 favorite]
posted by acrasis at 1:56 PM on September 2, 2017 [1 favorite]
the error is partly forgiven due to the genius of including Pizza as an "open faced cheese sandwich".
But that's what it IS!
posted by Samizdata at 2:20 PM on September 2, 2017
But that's what it IS!
posted by Samizdata at 2:20 PM on September 2, 2017
Dear Dr. The Whelk,
At my bakery, I produce an item that needs classification. It is a croissant that is baked with the following items inside of it:
Corned Beef
Emmentaler Cheese
Sauerkraut
Russian Dressing
Dijon Mustard
Is it a sandwich? There are legal ramifications about its classification due to certain restrictions in my lease. Our signage reads "Reuben Croissant".
Thank you in advance for not classifying it as a sandwich.
It's not a sandwich, because I have in fact never eaten it. Sad but true.
posted by Samizdata at 2:21 PM on September 2, 2017
At my bakery, I produce an item that needs classification. It is a croissant that is baked with the following items inside of it:
Corned Beef
Emmentaler Cheese
Sauerkraut
Russian Dressing
Dijon Mustard
Is it a sandwich? There are legal ramifications about its classification due to certain restrictions in my lease. Our signage reads "Reuben Croissant".
Thank you in advance for not classifying it as a sandwich.
It's not a sandwich, because I have in fact never eaten it. Sad but true.
posted by Samizdata at 2:21 PM on September 2, 2017
Every culture also has a pasty isomorph.
There are a lot of facets to this, and a traditional 2-dimensional branching tree just can't do it justice. Is the carb cooked together with the filling, or beforehand? Is the carb cooked by baking, deep frying (as in a brik) boiling (as in kreblach) or some other method?
posted by adamrice at 3:02 PM on September 2, 2017 [1 favorite]
There are a lot of facets to this, and a traditional 2-dimensional branching tree just can't do it justice. Is the carb cooked together with the filling, or beforehand? Is the carb cooked by baking, deep frying (as in a brik) boiling (as in kreblach) or some other method?
posted by adamrice at 3:02 PM on September 2, 2017 [1 favorite]
but a bowl of cereal?
posted by Joe in Australia at 3:41 PM on September 2, 2017
posted by Joe in Australia at 3:41 PM on September 2, 2017
This is complete and cannot be argued with
Hold my Metafilter.
posted by pompomtom at 4:29 PM on September 2, 2017 [4 favorites]
Hold my Metafilter.
posted by pompomtom at 4:29 PM on September 2, 2017 [4 favorites]
It has Kati Roll but no Pav bhaji or Vada Pav? OUTRAGE! Wait until I write my thinkpiece for Salon!
posted by Ashwagandha at 5:13 PM on September 2, 2017 [1 favorite]
posted by Ashwagandha at 5:13 PM on September 2, 2017 [1 favorite]
Well, we haven't heard from any Subway Sandwich Artists® yet...
posted by oneswellfoop at 5:14 PM on September 2, 2017
posted by oneswellfoop at 5:14 PM on September 2, 2017
A nice illustration of/meditation on American imperialism...
posted by The Toad at 10:15 PM on September 2, 2017
posted by The Toad at 10:15 PM on September 2, 2017
So lets say I chugged half a beer, ate a bite of jerky and then chugged the other half of the beer. That's technically a sandwhich, right? I may have just accidentally eaten a sandwhich after a 14 hour shift.
posted by nestor_makhno at 11:11 PM on September 2, 2017 [1 favorite]
posted by nestor_makhno at 11:11 PM on September 2, 2017 [1 favorite]
no because the carb and filling was not consumed together
posted by The Whelk at 12:39 AM on September 3, 2017 [3 favorites]
posted by The Whelk at 12:39 AM on September 3, 2017 [3 favorites]
no because the carb and filling was not consumed together
This suggests that a chelada with clam juice is actually a sandwich, intriguingly.
posted by Dip Flash at 6:11 AM on September 3, 2017
This suggests that a chelada with clam juice is actually a sandwich, intriguingly.
posted by Dip Flash at 6:11 AM on September 3, 2017
Many soups are actually sandwiches.
posted by Artw at 6:32 AM on September 3, 2017 [1 favorite]
posted by Artw at 6:32 AM on September 3, 2017 [1 favorite]
French onion soup is an inverted open-faced sandwich.
posted by stet at 10:18 AM on September 3, 2017 [6 favorites]
posted by stet at 10:18 AM on September 3, 2017 [6 favorites]
As would be a bowl of chicken-and-dumpli--DAMMIT now I want chicken-and-dumplings!
posted by darkstar at 10:27 AM on September 3, 2017 [1 favorite]
posted by darkstar at 10:27 AM on September 3, 2017 [1 favorite]
That's not what a burrito looks like. Meat should be fully enclosed with carbs on all sides and then wrapped in foil.
Agreed. The "partially and minimally enclosed" state should only occur during the process of consumption. If anyone ever attempts to sell you a partially- and/or minimally-enclosed burrito, you should probably ask to see the manager.
posted by Graygorey at 10:52 PM on September 3, 2017
Agreed. The "partially and minimally enclosed" state should only occur during the process of consumption. If anyone ever attempts to sell you a partially- and/or minimally-enclosed burrito, you should probably ask to see the manager.
posted by Graygorey at 10:52 PM on September 3, 2017
What, no turducken??
posted by rum-soaked space hobo at 9:07 AM on September 4, 2017
posted by rum-soaked space hobo at 9:07 AM on September 4, 2017
Artw: And a vanilla soy latte is just a kind of three-bean soup.
posted by rum-soaked space hobo at 9:08 AM on September 4, 2017 [9 favorites]
posted by rum-soaked space hobo at 9:08 AM on September 4, 2017 [9 favorites]
According to this taxonomy, it seems that one of the key characteristics differentiating the Pseudo Sandwiches (S. Breve) from True Sandwiches (S. Vulgaris) is whether or not the carb enclosure is mostly connected or fully separated. In that case, it seems that Subway went from serving True Sandwiches to Pseudo Sandwiches when the switched from the V-cut to the current (partial) horizontal cut.
Also, in the last sandwich thread, my mind was blown when more than one person asserted that they'd never call a submarine a "sandwich" despite the ample popular usage evidence to the contrary. I mean, we still gently mock Subway for once calling their employees "sandwich artists" and I don't think it's because of the "sandwich" part.
posted by mhum at 4:06 PM on September 5, 2017
Also, in the last sandwich thread, my mind was blown when more than one person asserted that they'd never call a submarine a "sandwich" despite the ample popular usage evidence to the contrary. I mean, we still gently mock Subway for once calling their employees "sandwich artists" and I don't think it's because of the "sandwich" part.
posted by mhum at 4:06 PM on September 5, 2017
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So an ice cream sandwich would be an example of convergent evolution, along with the Choco Taco, both descending from the relict waffle cone?
posted by the man of twists and turns at 7:46 AM on September 2, 2017 [3 favorites]