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October 26, 2017 9:05 AM   Subscribe

 
I like the all alectric, all aluminum kitchen, a flying easy bake oven!
posted by The Whelk at 9:16 AM on October 26, 2017


Electric oven is very wimpy and not very steam punk... it's almost like they had some measure of health and safety on their flying bomb

I like they ran out of gin by having too many English and American passengers. Top hole!

Thought the Hindenburg’s dining room looked very modern, and saw it was Bauhaus which explains it
posted by fearfulsymmetry at 9:19 AM on October 26, 2017 [5 favorites]


The libations were also very German. On the Hindenburg’s maiden flight, the bar is said to have run out of gin. This is because, says Grossman, “Germans don’t drink a lot of gin. Brits and Americans drink tons of gin, but the very fact that they did [run out] shows that they weren’t really thinking about accommodating the expectations of their passengers.”

Unsurprising, I guess. One might need one hell of a lot of gin to deal with the fact that one is suspended from a bag of highly flammable gas and surrounded by Nazis.

That Grossman book about food in the air sounds pretty interesting!
posted by mandolin conspiracy at 9:20 AM on October 26, 2017 [6 favorites]


I like the all alectric, all aluminum kitchen, a flying easy bake oven!

You'll be suggesting that painting it with thermite was a bad idea next.
posted by Artw at 9:21 AM on October 26, 2017 [3 favorites]


No ticket!
posted by fearfulsymmetry at 9:23 AM on October 26, 2017 [4 favorites]


That Grossman book about food in the air sounds pretty interesting!

Meant Foss. Grossman is the zeppelin history guy.
posted by mandolin conspiracy at 9:30 AM on October 26, 2017


So champagne cabbage intrigued me and I it looks like a warm cabbage salad with champnage as the acid, a more traditional version would include cut bacon, of course.

You could veganize it for people by switching out the butter. Serve it with a suitable main (the suggested duck breast sounds great and I may try that) and it would be a good with Russian monastery cake (also vegan!) for desert.

Wait what were we talking about? Oh yes zeppelins....
posted by The Whelk at 9:38 AM on October 26, 2017 [3 favorites]


Why did I not know that the Hindenburg was festooned with swastikas? (I suppose because in the famous photograph of the burning ship going down they have already been engulfed by flame.) I wonder, if the disaster had occurred somewhat closer to the actual outbreak of the war, would it have featured more prominently in Allied propaganda?
posted by Atom Eyes at 9:50 AM on October 26, 2017 [1 favorite]


Those silver and golden fizzes sound like a lot of fun! The silver fizz sounds like a Tom Collins with some body from the egg white.
posted by Carillon at 9:53 AM on October 26, 2017


Sounds like the Ramos Fizz
posted by Mei's lost sandal at 9:55 AM on October 26, 2017


Zeppelin Dining

Bet they served a lot of Custard Pie.
posted by ZenMasterThis at 10:04 AM on October 26, 2017 [2 favorites]


The movie Around the World by Zeppelin is totally worth watching. It's largely real archival film of travelling on the Hindenburg, woven together in a fictionalized story that's fairly entertaining. There's a short dining scene starting at 17:52. There may be a bar scene somewhere in the film too.
posted by Nelson at 10:07 AM on October 26, 2017 [6 favorites]


So I've just spent my lunch hour down an airship rabbit hole.

The airships.net site that the FPP article links to is full of good stuff.

From the section on the history of the Hindenburg:

After its basic test flights in early March, 1936, Hindenburg was scheduled to make a series of endurance trials in preparation for its first transatlantic crossing on March 31, 1936.

In place of the much-needed endurance trials, however, the Nazi government’s Ministry of Propaganda requested that Hindenburg and Graf Zeppelin undertake a joint three day flight in support of the upcoming March 29 plebiscite on Hitler’s remilitarization of the Rhineland.

Beholden to the Nazi government, which had put him in charge of the DZR, Ernst Lehmann agreed to cancel the test flights and make the propaganda flight instead, and Lehmann even went forward with the planned flight despite unfavorable gusty conditions on the day of departure. Hindenburg’s ground crew lost control of the ship while preparing it for the takeoff, and the stern slammed into the ground damaging the lower fin.

Hugo Eckener was furious at Lehmann for jeopardizing not only the brand new ship, but the entire zeppelin program, and his outburst at Lehmann — and at Propaganda Minister Goebbels — for risking the airship to make a “œscheissfahrt” (shit flight) for the Nazis represented Eckener’s most dramatic break with the Nazi government.


I hereby pledge to use “œscheissfahrt” in at least one workplace conversation today.

Apparently, with regard to the Goodyear blimp:

There are currently two airships in Goodyear's U.S. fleet – two semi-rigid airships:[5][6]

Wingfoot One (N1A), a semi-rigid airship (model LZ N07-101), based in Suffield Township, Ohio

Wingfoot Two (N2A), a semi-rigid airship (model LZ N07-101), based in Pompano Beach, Florida
Both craft are outfitted with LED sign technology Goodyear calls "Eaglevision."


Eaglevision?

EAGLEVISION?

They didn't go with LED Zeppelin?

*stomps off*
posted by mandolin conspiracy at 10:08 AM on October 26, 2017 [34 favorites]


Does anyone know why in the diagram it looks like there are trams heading off into the bowels of the zeppelin? It looks like a subway or something, is that storage?
posted by Carillon at 10:11 AM on October 26, 2017


Slide Rule: Autobiography of an Engineer by Nevil Shute is well worth a read if you want the skinny on British airship development and all the management and scheduling errors that led to disaster their. Airships seem prone to disasterous politically driven test flights that go against best advice.
posted by Artw at 10:16 AM on October 26, 2017 [1 favorite]


Zeppelin dining? That's ridiculous! I couldn't possibly eat an entire zeppelin!

*ducks, falls off of blimp*
posted by sexyrobot at 10:23 AM on October 26, 2017 [2 favorites]


It looks like a subway or something, is that storage?

Here's a look at everything located along the Hindenburg's keel - there was definitely storage and cargo space, along with crew quarters, and a radio and an electrical room.
posted by mandolin conspiracy at 10:23 AM on October 26, 2017 [2 favorites]


It looks like a subway or something, is that storage?

Here's a look at everything located along the Hindenburg's keel - there was definitely storage and cargo space, along with crew quarters, and a radio and an electrical room.


Google around I found this cutaway diagram - crew quarters and fuel and water tanks
posted by fearfulsymmetry at 10:40 AM on October 26, 2017


The silver fizz sounds like a Tom Collins with some body from the egg white.

Fizzes are a delightful family of cocktails (as are flips) and should be served and enjoyed at every opportunity, both aloft and on the ground. BRING BACK EGG COCKTAILS, I SAY
posted by halation at 11:05 AM on October 26, 2017 [3 favorites]


If you're ever in the neighborhood of Friedrichshafen, Germany, and are at all interested in Zeppelins, be sure to check out the Zeppelin Museum there, which has a full-scale mock-up of the interior of the Hindenburg that you can walk through. It is about as close as you can come today to experiencing what these things were like.
posted by dellsolace at 11:07 AM on October 26, 2017


One might need one hell of a lot of gin to deal with the fact that one is suspended from a bag of highly flammable gas and surrounded by Nazis.

Well, I don't know that we're literally suspended from the bag of highly flammable gas. But otherwise, this seems to be a very concise, but quite accurate assessment of the world in which we find ourselves. How's your gin consumption these days?
posted by Naberius at 11:12 AM on October 26, 2017 [6 favorites]


Up.
posted by Artw at 11:13 AM on October 26, 2017 [3 favorites]


It looks like a subway or something

actually its a blimpie
posted by uncleozzy at 11:13 AM on October 26, 2017 [7 favorites]


anyway what is everyone wearing to the hindenberg-themed dinner party that the whelk is definitely right now planning
posted by poffin boffin at 11:22 AM on October 26, 2017 [2 favorites]


Gin's on-sale at my local costco so my consumption will be increasing soon!
posted by Carillon at 11:30 AM on October 26, 2017


anyway what is everyone wearing to the hindenberg-themed dinner party that the whelk is definitely right now planning

Tux same thing you'd wear to a last dinner on the Titanic dinner party. Back when people actually dressed for dinner!
posted by Carillon at 11:32 AM on October 26, 2017 [1 favorite]


anyway what is everyone wearing to the hindenberg-themed dinner party that the whelk is definitely right now planning

Something in asbestos.
posted by mandolin conspiracy at 11:39 AM on October 26, 2017 [2 favorites]


Your Sunday asbestos.
posted by Atom Eyes at 11:46 AM on October 26, 2017 [17 favorites]


Why can't we recreate these with contemporary technology. Hydrogen scares folks due to that film (oh ok and... reasons) but as horrifying as that seems fewer died than most plane crashes and more survived than most plane crashes. We have new materials, static mediation systems, and hopefully never needed escape modern methods.

Wouldn't it be just a pleasure to watch the terrain roll by sipping well made tea sitting a comfy armchair?
posted by sammyo at 12:02 PM on October 26, 2017 [3 favorites]




Rollin' down the street, smokin' indo
Sippin' on LZ129, laid back
With my mind on my money
And my money on my mind


Just doesn't have the same rhythm.
posted by Sphinx at 12:36 PM on October 26, 2017


This is great: we just finished reading "The 21 Baloons" in my house and it made me think of its real-world inspirations...
posted by Ogre Lawless at 12:42 PM on October 26, 2017


Why can't we recreate these with contemporary technology.

We have, I've flown in one (photos here). It's significantly smaller, maybe 1/10 the useful load? Sure was a lovely tourist flight: slow but graceful. The one I flew on stopped flying in America, they weren't able to make a working business with tourism and the occasional scientific flight. They are still flying in Germany.

Helium of course, not hydrogen, and that's part of the cost. Helium is terribly expensive. It's not consumed but there's some inevitable leakage.
posted by Nelson at 12:51 PM on October 26, 2017 [3 favorites]


Helium of course, not hydrogen, and that's part of the cost. Helium is terribly expensive. It's not consumed but there's some inevitable leakage.

Because, you know, helium must out.

(Seriously, helium ALWAYS leaks.)
posted by Samizdata at 1:32 PM on October 26, 2017


WRT to the airships we want and deserve, and helium itself, previously and relatedly:

We were promised airships

In the future, only the 1% will have squeaky voices
posted by mandolin conspiracy at 1:37 PM on October 26, 2017


> Up.

With a slice of lime
posted by mrzarquon at 1:45 PM on October 26, 2017


There's a public domain book with someone nice pictures and floor plans on archive.org Zeppelin; the story of a great achievement.
posted by fings at 6:50 PM on October 26, 2017 [1 favorite]


anyway what is everyone wearing to the hindenberg-themed dinner party that the whelk is definitely right now planning

well if I'm keeping this idea of Hindenberg But Vegan, maybe the champagne cabbage (replace the bacon with shredded carrots and such) as a starter salad, a fried tempeh with nuts and cranberry sauce and jasmine/wild rice side, then maybe a sweet potato twist on a German potato salad- maybe with wild mushroom spreads available, and then the spiced Russian egg-less, dairy-less cake with dried fruits.

A persistent cheese and charcuterie plate for the other people in the room, and lots of pickles.
posted by The Whelk at 10:38 PM on October 26, 2017 [1 favorite]


i demand bacon
posted by poffin boffin at 11:37 AM on October 27, 2017 [1 favorite]


I somehow made it to 32 years old believing that zeppelins were more akin to hot air balloons (i.e. for joyriding over a city) than cruise ships. Given that I love flying and having nothing to do but eat/drink/read/socialize/stare out the window, this would have been right up my alley.
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