From agorism to neozapatismo
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Social Democracy 100%
Third Way 88%
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Mutualism -50%
Strasserism -50%
Sounds about right.
posted by darkstar at 1:07 PM on December 17, 2017
Third Way 88%
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Mutualism -50%
Strasserism -50%
Sounds about right.
posted by darkstar at 1:07 PM on December 17, 2017
I'm a... Fourierist? I may have just now learned that that's a thing.
posted by box at 1:08 PM on December 17, 2017 [1 favorite]
posted by box at 1:08 PM on December 17, 2017 [1 favorite]
Your top ideologies are:
Anarcho-naturism 75%
I had to look this one up. The core is "...nudism, anarchism, vegetarianism and free love.." I can cope with this.
posted by Braeburn at 1:10 PM on December 17, 2017 [21 favorites]
Anarcho-naturism 75%
I had to look this one up. The core is "...nudism, anarchism, vegetarianism and free love.." I can cope with this.
posted by Braeburn at 1:10 PM on December 17, 2017 [21 favorites]
My results:
Classical Marxism 100%
Collectivist anarchism 100%
Anarcha-feminism 100%
Third Way 100%
Clerical fascism -33%
Three Principles of the People -33%
Strasserism -33%
Does the quiz make no sense, or is it me?
posted by medusa at 1:11 PM on December 17, 2017 [10 favorites]
Classical Marxism 100%
Collectivist anarchism 100%
Anarcha-feminism 100%
Third Way 100%
Clerical fascism -33%
Three Principles of the People -33%
Strasserism -33%
Does the quiz make no sense, or is it me?
posted by medusa at 1:11 PM on December 17, 2017 [10 favorites]
HUGE SURPRISE. I'm 100% Anarcho-Syndicalist/Anarcha-Feminist/Communalist. This thing is stone legit.
posted by adamgreenfield at 1:11 PM on December 17, 2017 [5 favorites]
posted by adamgreenfield at 1:11 PM on December 17, 2017 [5 favorites]
my primary complaint about the sextant is that it does not emphasise my dislike of minarchism enough (in that it suggests any match between it and my beliefs can actually be measured)
posted by halation at 1:15 PM on December 17, 2017 [5 favorites]
posted by halation at 1:15 PM on December 17, 2017 [5 favorites]
Okay, this is cute:
Congratulations. You Either did not fill in the quiz, or have absolutely no opinions about anything.
More information
posted by peeedro at 1:18 PM on December 17, 2017 [6 favorites]
Congratulations. You Either did not fill in the quiz, or have absolutely no opinions about anything.
More information
posted by peeedro at 1:18 PM on December 17, 2017 [6 favorites]
I'm a... Fourierist? I may have just now learned that that's a thing.
We have such sights to show you
posted by halation at 1:20 PM on December 17, 2017 [2 favorites]
We have such sights to show you
posted by halation at 1:20 PM on December 17, 2017 [2 favorites]
so it turns out I'm a social democrat. Who could have known?
posted by mumimor at 1:30 PM on December 17, 2017 [1 favorite]
posted by mumimor at 1:30 PM on December 17, 2017 [1 favorite]
Q#1 We should strive to remove hierarchy where we can: Choosing the selector “no opinion” is not an expression of affecting a hierarchy allowing for “no opinion”. I’m an agnostic by terms that frighten away an atheist, but not about policy. Having no opinion about many policy issues reads as a lie of omission to me. Or am I missing something obvious this morning?
posted by lazycomputerkids at 1:31 PM on December 17, 2017 [1 favorite]
posted by lazycomputerkids at 1:31 PM on December 17, 2017 [1 favorite]
Based on my results, I think I'll just reject all the labels and declare myself the founder of the FOOPISM school.
posted by oneswellfoop at 1:36 PM on December 17, 2017 [2 favorites]
posted by oneswellfoop at 1:36 PM on December 17, 2017 [2 favorites]
classical Marxism -89%
Shocking I know..
posted by The Whelk at 1:38 PM on December 17, 2017 [5 favorites]
Shocking I know..
posted by The Whelk at 1:38 PM on December 17, 2017 [5 favorites]
...IF YOU HAD BEHAVED NICELY
THE COMMUNISTS WOULDN’T EXIST...
— Jenny Holzer
posted by lazycomputerkids at 1:42 PM on December 17, 2017 [14 favorites]
THE COMMUNISTS WOULDN’T EXIST...
— Jenny Holzer
posted by lazycomputerkids at 1:42 PM on December 17, 2017 [14 favorites]
My top scores are Classical Marxism 75%, Social democracy 75%, Third Way 88%, Marxist feminism 75%. Either I'm kind of weird, or the quiz doesn't distinguish between some of these very well.
Worst matches: minarchism -33%, paleoconservativism -40%, paleolibertarianism -33%.
Kind of curious now what are the trigger questions for Kemalism or Pancasila.
posted by zompist at 1:44 PM on December 17, 2017 [2 favorites]
Worst matches: minarchism -33%, paleoconservativism -40%, paleolibertarianism -33%.
Kind of curious now what are the trigger questions for Kemalism or Pancasila.
posted by zompist at 1:44 PM on December 17, 2017 [2 favorites]
Quelle Surprise.
Classical Marxism 100% | Anarcha-feminism 100% | Marxist feminism 100%
posted by adamvasco at 1:46 PM on December 17, 2017 [11 favorites]
Classical Marxism 100% | Anarcha-feminism 100% | Marxist feminism 100%
posted by adamvasco at 1:46 PM on December 17, 2017 [11 favorites]
I'm 75% Kemalist, AMA.
My true love of course is Anarcho-naturism and Individualist feminism.
posted by Balna Watya at 1:47 PM on December 17, 2017 [1 favorite]
My true love of course is Anarcho-naturism and Individualist feminism.
posted by Balna Watya at 1:47 PM on December 17, 2017 [1 favorite]
Classical Marxism 75%, Anarcha-feminism 75%, Marxist feminism 75%, Integral nationalism -30%, Paleoconservatism -60%, Strasserism -50%.
I don't even know what some of these are. Anarcha-feminism is like girls gone wild? And... is that like Major Strasserism?
posted by pracowity at 1:50 PM on December 17, 2017 [2 favorites]
I don't even know what some of these are. Anarcha-feminism is like girls gone wild? And... is that like Major Strasserism?
posted by pracowity at 1:50 PM on December 17, 2017 [2 favorites]
a few more classical Marxists and we’ve got a reading group going
posted by The Whelk at 1:50 PM on December 17, 2017 [24 favorites]
posted by The Whelk at 1:50 PM on December 17, 2017 [24 favorites]
Free market environmentalism & Kemal/50%
75% Social democracy
62% Blair
Negating..100% Strasser
62% Mutualism
50% 3 Principles of the People
Come at me?
posted by lazycomputerkids at 1:52 PM on December 17, 2017
75% Social democracy
62% Blair
Negating..100% Strasser
62% Mutualism
50% 3 Principles of the People
Come at me?
posted by lazycomputerkids at 1:52 PM on December 17, 2017
Classical Marxism 88%
Anarcha-feminism 88%
Third Way 88% ???????
Marxist feminism 88%
Also way more woke than I expected.
Enemies list the usual.
posted by Artw at 1:58 PM on December 17, 2017 [4 favorites]
Anarcha-feminism 88%
Third Way 88% ???????
Marxist feminism 88%
Also way more woke than I expected.
Enemies list the usual.
posted by Artw at 1:58 PM on December 17, 2017 [4 favorites]
Top Ideologies:
Classical Marxism 88%
Anarcha-feminism 88%
Synthesis anarchism 88%
Fourierism 88%
Marxist feminism 88%
Worst ideologies
Classical liberalism -50%
Fusionism -71%
Paleoconservatism -90%
Sounds about right. Anarcho-feminist-lefty. Not very surprising. I'm disappointed it wasn't kinkier, thought. I was hoping they'd tell me I put the "sex" into "sextant".
OK, I know it's just for fun, but I gotta call bullshit. Fitting a 6 dimensional feature vector with 35 or so pieces of data is dubious, at best.
posted by mondo dentro at 2:02 PM on December 17, 2017 [8 favorites]
Classical Marxism 88%
Anarcha-feminism 88%
Synthesis anarchism 88%
Fourierism 88%
Marxist feminism 88%
Worst ideologies
Classical liberalism -50%
Fusionism -71%
Paleoconservatism -90%
Sounds about right. Anarcho-feminist-lefty. Not very surprising. I'm disappointed it wasn't kinkier, thought. I was hoping they'd tell me I put the "sex" into "sextant".
OK, I know it's just for fun, but I gotta call bullshit. Fitting a 6 dimensional feature vector with 35 or so pieces of data is dubious, at best.
posted by mondo dentro at 2:02 PM on December 17, 2017 [8 favorites]
Needs more guillotines. 100% guillotine or you're a cop.
posted by Artw at 2:04 PM on December 17, 2017 [23 favorites]
posted by Artw at 2:04 PM on December 17, 2017 [23 favorites]
And... is that like Major Strasserism?
No, but both Strassers were Nazis. The one the -ism is named after was assassinated during the Night of the Long Knives, though, and thus did not survive to hassle folks in Morocco.
posted by tobascodagama at 2:09 PM on December 17, 2017 [2 favorites]
No, but both Strassers were Nazis. The one the -ism is named after was assassinated during the Night of the Long Knives, though, and thus did not survive to hassle folks in Morocco.
posted by tobascodagama at 2:09 PM on December 17, 2017 [2 favorites]
Apparently I'm 60% Fascist, 60% Juche, 75% Kemalist. Which is odd because the closest thing I have to a coherent political ideology is summed up by the old line "Socialism if necessary, not necessarily socialism. Capitalism if necessary, not necessarily capitalism". i.e. treat ideologies as toolboxes rather than total systems.
posted by Grimgrin at 2:13 PM on December 17, 2017 [4 favorites]
posted by Grimgrin at 2:13 PM on December 17, 2017 [4 favorites]
top ideologies are:
Deep ecology 100%
Communalism 93%
Neozapatismo 92%
worst ideologies are:
Fusionism -79%
Paleoconservatism -70%
Three Principles of the People -83%
Well they got the first one right, the other two are all way off. And I've never heard of the other three but Reagan = Thatcher, so nuff said.
Thing is many questions are so polarising, the union one for instance, unions are useful as they stop abuse, but unions often have bigger goals and see members as cannon fodder - having been used as such I see that question needs a weighting.
Or
"Large scale civilisations are unsustainable", how large is large? What is sustainable? Size is not the issue, the problems IMO are lack of system redundancy, ideology and religion supplanting science, designed inequality and social division.
posted by unearthed at 2:21 PM on December 17, 2017 [3 favorites]
Deep ecology 100%
Communalism 93%
Neozapatismo 92%
worst ideologies are:
Fusionism -79%
Paleoconservatism -70%
Three Principles of the People -83%
Well they got the first one right, the other two are all way off. And I've never heard of the other three but Reagan = Thatcher, so nuff said.
Thing is many questions are so polarising, the union one for instance, unions are useful as they stop abuse, but unions often have bigger goals and see members as cannon fodder - having been used as such I see that question needs a weighting.
Or
"Large scale civilisations are unsustainable", how large is large? What is sustainable? Size is not the issue, the problems IMO are lack of system redundancy, ideology and religion supplanting science, designed inequality and social division.
posted by unearthed at 2:21 PM on December 17, 2017 [3 favorites]
Which is odd because the closest thing I have to a coherent political ideology is summed up by the old line "Socialism if necessary, not necessarily socialism. Capitalism if necessary, not necessarily capitalism". i.e. treat ideologies as toolboxes rather than total systems.
Pretty sure if you do that and end up fascist anyway it's called Bannonism.
posted by Artw at 2:21 PM on December 17, 2017
Pretty sure if you do that and end up fascist anyway it's called Bannonism.
posted by Artw at 2:21 PM on December 17, 2017
I think "sextant" is misleading... I don't think there's six of anything here. They're just matching you to one of 60 ideologies. Probably should be sexagintrant.
I kind of wish they'd list your matches to other ideologies too. But then this thread would be unreadable.
posted by zompist at 2:28 PM on December 17, 2017 [2 favorites]
I kind of wish they'd list your matches to other ideologies too. But then this thread would be unreadable.
posted by zompist at 2:28 PM on December 17, 2017 [2 favorites]
Guild socialism 75%
Social democracy 75%
Third Way 75%
Marxist feminism 75%
At least I'm consistent.
posted by Thorzdad at 2:28 PM on December 17, 2017 [2 favorites]
Social democracy 75%
Third Way 75%
Marxist feminism 75%
At least I'm consistent.
posted by Thorzdad at 2:28 PM on December 17, 2017 [2 favorites]
It turns out I married a syndicalist where’s our wacky sitcom about union organizing
posted by The Whelk at 2:28 PM on December 17, 2017 [9 favorites]
posted by The Whelk at 2:28 PM on December 17, 2017 [9 favorites]
This is fun although I somewhat question the results
Guild socialism 75%
Social democracy 75%
Marxist feminism 75%
Anarcho-capitalism -50%
Minarchism -50%
Paleoconservatism -60%
Paleolibertarianism -50%
posted by quaking fajita at 2:30 PM on December 17, 2017 [1 favorite]
Guild socialism 75%
Social democracy 75%
Marxist feminism 75%
Anarcho-capitalism -50%
Minarchism -50%
Paleoconservatism -60%
Paleolibertarianism -50%
posted by quaking fajita at 2:30 PM on December 17, 2017 [1 favorite]
Artw: I thought Bannonism was like Lenninism, you and a bunch of unqualified assholes blundered into power in a political system experiencing a massive legitimacy crisis and then immediately started conspiring against each other.
posted by Grimgrin at 2:30 PM on December 17, 2017 [8 favorites]
posted by Grimgrin at 2:30 PM on December 17, 2017 [8 favorites]
Classical Marxism, guild socialism and Marxist feminism all at 88%!
posted by Carillon at 2:34 PM on December 17, 2017
posted by Carillon at 2:34 PM on December 17, 2017
I, apparently, am a Luxembourgish, Marxist, anarchro-Marxist-feminist. Huh,
posted by Samizdata at 2:46 PM on December 17, 2017
posted by Samizdata at 2:46 PM on December 17, 2017
I'm least of all an Ôðalist, which is sort of a relief, given I had never heard of that before, but 75% liberal socialist and social democrat sounds about right for one of Danish blood and soil.
posted by bouvin at 2:50 PM on December 17, 2017 [1 favorite]
posted by bouvin at 2:50 PM on December 17, 2017 [1 favorite]
Wow, this is a lot:
Anarcho-communism, Anarcho-syndicalism, Classical Marxism, Anarcha-feminism, Green syndicalism, Insurrectionary anarchism, Communalism, Synthesis anarchism, Neozapatismo, Fourierism, Marxist feminism all at 100%
Paleoconservatism -100%
Seems about right.
posted by aldurtregi at 2:50 PM on December 17, 2017 [2 favorites]
Anarcho-communism, Anarcho-syndicalism, Classical Marxism, Anarcha-feminism, Green syndicalism, Insurrectionary anarchism, Communalism, Synthesis anarchism, Neozapatismo, Fourierism, Marxist feminism all at 100%
Paleoconservatism -100%
Seems about right.
posted by aldurtregi at 2:50 PM on December 17, 2017 [2 favorites]
Top:
Classical Marxism -100%
Collectivist Anarchism -90%
Queer Anarchism -90%
Marxist Feminism -100%
Bottom:
Classical liberalism -50%
Free-market environmentalism -50%
Fusionism -93%
Paleoconservatism -100%
Paleolibertarianism -50%
Caliphate -50%
What are you rebelling against?
Whatta ya got?
posted by evilDoug at 2:51 PM on December 17, 2017 [1 favorite]
Classical Marxism -100%
Collectivist Anarchism -90%
Queer Anarchism -90%
Marxist Feminism -100%
Bottom:
Classical liberalism -50%
Free-market environmentalism -50%
Fusionism -93%
Paleoconservatism -100%
Paleolibertarianism -50%
Caliphate -50%
What are you rebelling against?
Whatta ya got?
posted by evilDoug at 2:51 PM on December 17, 2017 [1 favorite]
Classical Marxism 88%
Third Way 88%
Marxist Feminism 88%
Seems legit.
posted by ceejaytee at 2:53 PM on December 17, 2017
Third Way 88%
Marxist Feminism 88%
Seems legit.
posted by ceejaytee at 2:53 PM on December 17, 2017
Q1: What do you think of people who disagree with you?
- I'm not a fan, but I'm willing to hear what they have to say.
- It's only fair if I say things to make sure they disagree with me, too.
- I wonder how I can pit them against another person I disagree with.
- Hatred and death, and also do they have any loved ones I can disagree with?
- Human.
- Annoying human.
- Manipulative and annoying human.
- Republican "base".
"On this complex issue, worded broadly here without further context, do you agree or disagree?"
posted by farlukar at 2:59 PM on December 17, 2017 [17 favorites]
posted by farlukar at 2:59 PM on December 17, 2017 [17 favorites]
No posadism, C-
posted by The Gaffer at 3:04 PM on December 17, 2017 [3 favorites]
posted by The Gaffer at 3:04 PM on December 17, 2017 [3 favorites]
These are fun.
Classical Marxism: 75%
Third Way: 75%
Marxist Feminism: 75%
Mutualism: -38%
Bleeding-heart Libertarianism: -38%
Geolibertarianism: -38%
Paleoconservativism: -50%
Three Principles of the People: -50%
I assume this is a "sextant" in the sense of "device for navigation by orientation", which is a nice twist on the "political map" idea.
posted by biogeo at 3:05 PM on December 17, 2017 [1 favorite]
Classical Marxism: 75%
Third Way: 75%
Marxist Feminism: 75%
Mutualism: -38%
Bleeding-heart Libertarianism: -38%
Geolibertarianism: -38%
Paleoconservativism: -50%
Three Principles of the People: -50%
I assume this is a "sextant" in the sense of "device for navigation by orientation", which is a nice twist on the "political map" idea.
posted by biogeo at 3:05 PM on December 17, 2017 [1 favorite]
farlukar : ""On this complex issue, worded broadly here without further context, do you agree or disagree?""
"Also, do you strongly or only partially agree or disagree?"
posted by Samizdata at 3:09 PM on December 17, 2017 [3 favorites]
"Also, do you strongly or only partially agree or disagree?"
posted by Samizdata at 3:09 PM on December 17, 2017 [3 favorites]
Yeah, a lot of these questions are really hard without context -- put broadly, the "strong gov't vs. weak gov't" questions have wildly different answers depending on what gov't we're talking about here. Do I want a strong military for the US? Hell no! Should a workers' state have a strong military as long as there are capitalist countries trying to attack and undermine it? Obviously.
That said, Classical Marxism, Marxist-Leninism, and Marxist Feminism all at 100%, so thanks internet quiz for reassuring me of my choice to join a Marxist-Leninist party...
posted by Krawczak at 3:10 PM on December 17, 2017 [5 favorites]
That said, Classical Marxism, Marxist-Leninism, and Marxist Feminism all at 100%, so thanks internet quiz for reassuring me of my choice to join a Marxist-Leninist party...
posted by Krawczak at 3:10 PM on December 17, 2017 [5 favorites]
Your top ideologies are:
Anarcha-feminism 88%
Individualist feminism 88%
Your worst ideologies are:
Clerical fascism -67%
Integral nationalism -70%
Fun!
> I assume this is a "sextant" in the sense of "device for navigation by orientation", which is a nice twist on the "political map" idea.
Thank you for saving me from having to express why I've been rolling my eyes at the non-reality-based snarking in the thread.
Incidentally, somehow I knew if I clicked the "Placeholders for Dummies" link I was going to get rickrolled, but I did it anyway, out of sheer masochism.
posted by languagehat at 3:10 PM on December 17, 2017 [2 favorites]
Anarcha-feminism 88%
Individualist feminism 88%
Your worst ideologies are:
Clerical fascism -67%
Integral nationalism -70%
Fun!
> I assume this is a "sextant" in the sense of "device for navigation by orientation", which is a nice twist on the "political map" idea.
Thank you for saving me from having to express why I've been rolling my eyes at the non-reality-based snarking in the thread.
Incidentally, somehow I knew if I clicked the "Placeholders for Dummies" link I was going to get rickrolled, but I did it anyway, out of sheer masochism.
posted by languagehat at 3:10 PM on December 17, 2017 [2 favorites]
I got 88% Classical Marxism/Guild Socialism/Marxist Feminism. I feel like I was answering a lot of the questions in a go-for-broke way, but kept thinking "wait, in the context of that other one or some need to compromise..."
posted by rum-soaked space hobo at 3:11 PM on December 17, 2017 [4 favorites]
posted by rum-soaked space hobo at 3:11 PM on December 17, 2017 [4 favorites]
So, I got 67% Deep Ecology, 42% Kemalism, and 50% Marxist feminist. I did wind up clicking "no opinion" on a lot, though, because the questions seemed kind of all over the place and very very open to interpretation. Like, "We should strive to remove hierarchy where we can" - what kind of hierarchy? Do you just mean (as the pro/con section seemed to imply) hierarchies of power? What exactly constitutes an "unjustified power structure"? The police? The EU? Metafilter moderators? The person behind the bar who won't serve you because you're drunk?
Or "The betterment of society should be a primary goal of the members of said society" - what exactly do we mean by "betterment", here? Or "society", for that matter? You could pick any ideology and interpret it as agreeing or disagreeing with this statement, just through careful use of words.
I have a burning desire to hand this page back covered in more red ink than original text.
posted by doop at 3:13 PM on December 17, 2017 [9 favorites]
Or "The betterment of society should be a primary goal of the members of said society" - what exactly do we mean by "betterment", here? Or "society", for that matter? You could pick any ideology and interpret it as agreeing or disagreeing with this statement, just through careful use of words.
I have a burning desire to hand this page back covered in more red ink than original text.
posted by doop at 3:13 PM on December 17, 2017 [9 favorites]
Best
- Classical Marxism 88%
- Deep ecology 100%
- Anarcha-feminism 88%
- Marxist-feminism 88%
Worst
- Minarchism -50%
- Fusionism -57%
- Paleoconservatism -70%
- Paleolibertarianism -50%
- Three Principles of the People -50%
This was fun and led to some interesting reading, but I agree with other commenters saying that the the vague wording of the questions, lack of context and lack of nuance in the answer choices are a bit frustrating, and I think led to some skewed results. Not surprised by the feminism, but definitely didn't expect anarchy or Marxism to pop up!
posted by the thought-fox at 3:26 PM on December 17, 2017
- Classical Marxism 88%
- Deep ecology 100%
- Anarcha-feminism 88%
- Marxist-feminism 88%
Worst
- Minarchism -50%
- Fusionism -57%
- Paleoconservatism -70%
- Paleolibertarianism -50%
- Three Principles of the People -50%
This was fun and led to some interesting reading, but I agree with other commenters saying that the the vague wording of the questions, lack of context and lack of nuance in the answer choices are a bit frustrating, and I think led to some skewed results. Not surprised by the feminism, but definitely didn't expect anarchy or Marxism to pop up!
posted by the thought-fox at 3:26 PM on December 17, 2017
What in the hell, son?
Classical Marxism 62%
Compassionate conservatism 67%
Guild socialism 62%
Marxism-Leninism 67%
Marxist feminism 62%
Where in the hell did "Compassionate Conservativism" come from in a pile of Marxist/Socialist ideologies?!
This makes no sense.
posted by Xyanthilous P. Harrierstick at 3:30 PM on December 17, 2017 [1 favorite]
Classical Marxism 62%
Compassionate conservatism 67%
Guild socialism 62%
Marxism-Leninism 67%
Marxist feminism 62%
Where in the hell did "Compassionate Conservativism" come from in a pile of Marxist/Socialist ideologies?!
This makes no sense.
posted by Xyanthilous P. Harrierstick at 3:30 PM on December 17, 2017 [1 favorite]
Collectivist anarchism 70%
Anarcha-feminism 100%
Queer anarchism 70%
Marxist feminism 88%
Civic nationalism -38%
Paleoconservatism -60%
Three Principles of the People -50%
This makes a lot of sense of my malaise with the results of the Chilean president election.
posted by fmoralesc at 3:45 PM on December 17, 2017
Anarcha-feminism 100%
Queer anarchism 70%
Marxist feminism 88%
Civic nationalism -38%
Paleoconservatism -60%
Three Principles of the People -50%
This makes a lot of sense of my malaise with the results of the Chilean president election.
posted by fmoralesc at 3:45 PM on December 17, 2017
Where in the hell did "Compassionate Conservativism" come from in a pile of Marxist/Socialist ideologies?!
Irving Kristol.
posted by the man of twists and turns at 3:48 PM on December 17, 2017 [3 favorites]
Irving Kristol.
posted by the man of twists and turns at 3:48 PM on December 17, 2017 [3 favorites]
Anarcha-feminism 88%
Marxist feminism 88%
Third Way 88% 😳 WTF?
Either I'm simultaneously more woke & less Left than I credit myself, or the whole thing is 🔥🐿💩.
On the other hand, at least I'm not a Reaganite…
Paleoconservatism -30%
posted by Pinback at 3:52 PM on December 17, 2017
Marxist feminism 88%
Third Way 88% 😳 WTF?
Either I'm simultaneously more woke & less Left than I credit myself, or the whole thing is 🔥🐿💩.
On the other hand, at least I'm not a Reaganite…
Paleoconservatism -30%
posted by Pinback at 3:52 PM on December 17, 2017
75% social democrat, an ideology so boring that I can't even bother to click on the book link.
posted by tirutiru at 3:58 PM on December 17, 2017
posted by tirutiru at 3:58 PM on December 17, 2017
I think a lot of the surprise around why some ideologies show up unexpectedly is easily resolved if you remember that broadly speaking, political ideologies, including the ones you basically agree with, are at least somewhat incoherent.
The problems here may be less with the test than with human political thought.
posted by biogeo at 3:58 PM on December 17, 2017 [6 favorites]
The problems here may be less with the test than with human political thought.
posted by biogeo at 3:58 PM on December 17, 2017 [6 favorites]
Anarcha-feminism, Queer Anarchism and Marxist Feminism 100% each, which makes we wonder how I can be 100% for two strains of anarchism and still end up 100% Marxist. But the Queer Anarchism write-up leads with a reference to John Henry Mackay, which made my day. I'm a huge fan of Hubert Kennedy, who I think is the current leader in Mackay scholarship.
posted by layceepee at 4:02 PM on December 17, 2017 [1 favorite]
posted by layceepee at 4:02 PM on December 17, 2017 [1 favorite]
think a lot of the surprise around why some ideologies show up unexpectedly is easily resolved if you remember that broadly speaking, political ideologies, including the ones you basically agree with, are at least somewhat incoherent
Third Way, the one that seems to show up randomly the most, inherently so.
Though I suspect it might be a softening of my attitude towards religion that might be responsible for me getting it. The introduction of atheist Nazis to the mix whose anti-religious sentiment is less "evangelicals are awful and should not drive society" and more "we can use this as an excuse to hate on brown people" caused some re-examination for me there.
posted by Artw at 4:04 PM on December 17, 2017 [3 favorites]
Third Way, the one that seems to show up randomly the most, inherently so.
Though I suspect it might be a softening of my attitude towards religion that might be responsible for me getting it. The introduction of atheist Nazis to the mix whose anti-religious sentiment is less "evangelicals are awful and should not drive society" and more "we can use this as an excuse to hate on brown people" caused some re-examination for me there.
posted by Artw at 4:04 PM on December 17, 2017 [3 favorites]
I mostly got anarcho-primitivist, anarcho-femminism. I am not a primitivist.
posted by PinkMoose at 4:09 PM on December 17, 2017
posted by PinkMoose at 4:09 PM on December 17, 2017
Hm. I....assume that I got lower percentages on my results because I gave too many "no opinion" and "slightly" leaning answers. They gave me 75% social democracy and Marxist feminism, which sounds about right. The 67% Kemalism thing is nuts, though. Are they interpreting answers that support the existence of government intervention as....some weird nationalist worship of the state? Or are we just saying that secularism = Kemalism here?
posted by grandiloquiet at 4:11 PM on December 17, 2017 [1 favorite]
posted by grandiloquiet at 4:11 PM on December 17, 2017 [1 favorite]
About equal scores for Classical Marxism, Marxist Feminism, and Third Way, so, hmm. OK?
posted by Anonymous at 4:17 PM on December 17, 2017
posted by Anonymous at 4:17 PM on December 17, 2017
collectivist anarchism 90%
anarcha-feminism 100%
queer anarchism 90%
marxist feminism 100%
I didn't know I was such an anarchist!
posted by supermedusa at 4:28 PM on December 17, 2017 [2 favorites]
anarcha-feminism 100%
queer anarchism 90%
marxist feminism 100%
I didn't know I was such an anarchist!
posted by supermedusa at 4:28 PM on December 17, 2017 [2 favorites]
My lowest one (with -50%) is the one with the picture of Reagan, so good enough.
I got 75% each for Classical Marxism, Anarcha-feminism, Third Way, Fourierism, and Marxist Feminism.
posted by ckape at 4:33 PM on December 17, 2017
I got 75% each for Classical Marxism, Anarcha-feminism, Third Way, Fourierism, and Marxist Feminism.
posted by ckape at 4:33 PM on December 17, 2017
I got similar numbers for both classical Marxism and compassionate conservativism so either this quiz is broken or I am.
posted by Bulgaroktonos at 4:42 PM on December 17, 2017 [2 favorites]
posted by Bulgaroktonos at 4:42 PM on December 17, 2017 [2 favorites]
Among other things I'm apparently +67% for Dubya, +75% for Blair and -60% for Reagan.
Yeah, no.
posted by flabdablet at 4:57 PM on December 17, 2017
Yeah, no.
posted by flabdablet at 4:57 PM on December 17, 2017
At first I read as Classical Marxist/Third Way/Marxist Feminist, which is pretty wrong, but then I re-did it (trying to answer the same way) and now I'm a Compassionate Conservative/Third Way/Social Democrat. I'm scared to do it again in case I end up a Fascist/Agrarian/Hitler Jugend.
posted by Joe in Australia at 5:04 PM on December 17, 2017 [3 favorites]
posted by Joe in Australia at 5:04 PM on December 17, 2017 [3 favorites]
Missing the response options "sometimes" and "it depends".
posted by rocket88 at 5:17 PM on December 17, 2017 [6 favorites]
posted by rocket88 at 5:17 PM on December 17, 2017 [6 favorites]
This needs to be a test with an introduction that clearly spells out the expected definitions of terms like society and culture which is followed by at least one hundred but preferably more questions that ask about general principles and specific applications of principles. Then, maybe, it might work in giving the user a tool to navigate their political leanings. As it is now, why not just post this on OKCupid?
posted by Ignorantsavage at 5:25 PM on December 17, 2017 [1 favorite]
posted by Ignorantsavage at 5:25 PM on December 17, 2017 [1 favorite]
Yeah, a lot of these are weird mixes of pragmatic and principled questions, or mix some description that I agree with to an extent with a conclusion I strongly disagree with, like, yeah, some unions in some countries/industries/cases have lead to a whole lot of corruption and inefficiency, but that doesn't mean I think they should be illegal. I suspect I'd score more radically if I didn't have to hedge my bets and second-guess the questions so much.
Anyway, 83% Social Democrat, 75% Third Way, 75% Marxist Feminism, and I'm really opposed to Clerical Fascism, Odalism, and Paleoconservatism, so no big surprises there.
posted by Joakim Ziegler at 5:36 PM on December 17, 2017
Anyway, 83% Social Democrat, 75% Third Way, 75% Marxist Feminism, and I'm really opposed to Clerical Fascism, Odalism, and Paleoconservatism, so no big surprises there.
posted by Joakim Ziegler at 5:36 PM on December 17, 2017
So it informs me that I’m a queer green anarch Geogist and my worst enemies are mainstream Reagano-Trumpian American values fascists and paleo conservatives.
posted by runcifex at 5:42 PM on December 17, 2017
posted by runcifex at 5:42 PM on December 17, 2017
100% Classical Marxist
100% Collectivist anarchism
100% Anarcha-feminism
100% Feminist Marxism
---
-79% Fusionism
-90% Paleoconservatism
-70% Caliphate
Apparently I'm more opposed to Ronald Reagan than I am to ISIS? idk, this may not be wrong
posted by a mirror and an encyclopedia at 5:42 PM on December 17, 2017
100% Collectivist anarchism
100% Anarcha-feminism
100% Feminist Marxism
---
-79% Fusionism
-90% Paleoconservatism
-70% Caliphate
Apparently I'm more opposed to Ronald Reagan than I am to ISIS? idk, this may not be wrong
posted by a mirror and an encyclopedia at 5:42 PM on December 17, 2017
This could make for a good alignment system for some hypothetical RPG, though. Although now that I think about it, I think I already LARP that particular game on Facebook.
posted by Joakim Ziegler at 5:43 PM on December 17, 2017 [5 favorites]
posted by Joakim Ziegler at 5:43 PM on December 17, 2017 [5 favorites]
Paleocon trending neg on the blue, next on vraknews.
posted by vrakatar at 5:44 PM on December 17, 2017 [1 favorite]
posted by vrakatar at 5:44 PM on December 17, 2017 [1 favorite]
Of course, I'm not actually a classical Marxist. I can't be, because I reject dialectical materialism. I just happen to track really closely with classical Marxists on questions about policy and methods of political action.
This isn't really a criticism of the test per se, since I don't think it's attempting to achieve a complete picture of your philosophy or whatever? Cause that would be really hard. But I'd love to see someone attempt to craft a quiz that did and then come here to argue about it
posted by a mirror and an encyclopedia at 5:45 PM on December 17, 2017 [2 favorites]
This isn't really a criticism of the test per se, since I don't think it's attempting to achieve a complete picture of your philosophy or whatever? Cause that would be really hard. But I'd love to see someone attempt to craft a quiz that did and then come here to argue about it
posted by a mirror and an encyclopedia at 5:45 PM on December 17, 2017 [2 favorites]
Another previously-unsuspecting anarcho-naturist, here. I plan to adopt the label and wear it with pride. Our tenets are anarchy, nudity, hiking, and ... crossword puzzles? Something like that.
posted by sfenders at 5:59 PM on December 17, 2017 [1 favorite]
posted by sfenders at 5:59 PM on December 17, 2017 [1 favorite]
Your top ideologies are:
Juche 60%
Kemalism 58%
Nordic model 57%
Your worst ideologies are:
Mutualism -38%
Bleeding-heart libertarianism -38%
Geolibertarianism -50%
Lots of cowardice & hippy bullshit in this thread!!
posted by Odin's Missing Eyeball at 6:04 PM on December 17, 2017 [1 favorite]
Juche 60%
Kemalism 58%
Nordic model 57%
Your worst ideologies are:
Mutualism -38%
Bleeding-heart libertarianism -38%
Geolibertarianism -50%
Lots of cowardice & hippy bullshit in this thread!!
posted by Odin's Missing Eyeball at 6:04 PM on December 17, 2017 [1 favorite]
Anarcho-communism 86%
Anarcha-feminism 100%
Marxist feminism 88%
Classical liberalism -80%
Fusionism -57%
Paleoconservatism -60%
Bit surprised at the lack of an explicitly "green" option at the top. otoh Classical liberalism -80% sounds about right
posted by Bangaioh at 6:07 PM on December 17, 2017 [1 favorite]
Anarcha-feminism 100%
Marxist feminism 88%
Classical liberalism -80%
Fusionism -57%
Paleoconservatism -60%
Bit surprised at the lack of an explicitly "green" option at the top. otoh Classical liberalism -80% sounds about right
posted by Bangaioh at 6:07 PM on December 17, 2017 [1 favorite]
Yeah, I don't really think this or any other political quiz should be regarded as any more than a toy, a conversation-starter, and maybe an opportunity read up on some political ideas outside your normal frame of reference.
One interesting thing that occurs to me thinking about the kinds of ideologies included, and the questions this quiz asked to differentiate them, is that some of them are kind of apples-and-oranges comparisons. E.g., is it really sensible to compare "Third Way" liberalism, Classical Marxism, and Marxist Feminism on the same footing? Is Third Way liberalism even really an ideology, or is it a strategy, or policy methodology? Couldn't Marxist Feminism be read as more of a school of political criticism than an ideology per se? Classical Marxism seems to fit the bill of an ideology, but it is also a school of political criticism. My relatively high agreement with it as measured by this quiz probably reflects more my growing acceptance of Marxist criticisms of capitalism than a genuine alignment with the ideology, as I have similarly strong reservations about the positive political recommendations of Marxism, but these didn't feature as strongly in the questions asked.
posted by biogeo at 6:10 PM on December 17, 2017 [5 favorites]
One interesting thing that occurs to me thinking about the kinds of ideologies included, and the questions this quiz asked to differentiate them, is that some of them are kind of apples-and-oranges comparisons. E.g., is it really sensible to compare "Third Way" liberalism, Classical Marxism, and Marxist Feminism on the same footing? Is Third Way liberalism even really an ideology, or is it a strategy, or policy methodology? Couldn't Marxist Feminism be read as more of a school of political criticism than an ideology per se? Classical Marxism seems to fit the bill of an ideology, but it is also a school of political criticism. My relatively high agreement with it as measured by this quiz probably reflects more my growing acceptance of Marxist criticisms of capitalism than a genuine alignment with the ideology, as I have similarly strong reservations about the positive political recommendations of Marxism, but these didn't feature as strongly in the questions asked.
posted by biogeo at 6:10 PM on December 17, 2017 [5 favorites]
You people are all wrong, of course.
posted by sneebler at 6:10 PM on December 17, 2017 [4 favorites]
posted by sneebler at 6:10 PM on December 17, 2017 [4 favorites]
Also I have the feeling that if I answer again tomorrow I'll get a similar yet completely different six due to different imagined contexts for each question.
posted by Bangaioh at 6:12 PM on December 17, 2017 [2 favorites]
posted by Bangaioh at 6:12 PM on December 17, 2017 [2 favorites]
Classical Marxism 100%
Marxist feminism 100%
Anarcha-feminism 88%
Fusionism -43%
Minarchism -50%
Paleoconservatism -60%
The Whelk, what are we reading tonight, comrade?
posted by maxwelton at 6:14 PM on December 17, 2017
Marxist feminism 100%
Anarcha-feminism 88%
Fusionism -43%
Minarchism -50%
Paleoconservatism -60%
The Whelk, what are we reading tonight, comrade?
posted by maxwelton at 6:14 PM on December 17, 2017
Anarcho-syndicalism 100%
Classical Marxism 100%
Anarcha-feminism 100%
Green syndicalism 100%
Literally none of this is surprising, except that my entire top-9 claim me as "100%."
posted by libraritarian at 6:33 PM on December 17, 2017 [1 favorite]
Classical Marxism 100%
Anarcha-feminism 100%
Green syndicalism 100%
Literally none of this is surprising, except that my entire top-9 claim me as "100%."
posted by libraritarian at 6:33 PM on December 17, 2017 [1 favorite]
Classical Marxism 100%
Suggested reading: The Communist Manifesto
Anarcha-feminism 100%
Suggested reading: The Voltairine de Cleyre Reader
Individualist feminism 100%
Suggested reading: Reclaiming the Mainstream
Queer anarchism 100%
Suggested reading: Queering Anarchism: Addressing and Undressing Power and Desire
Marxist feminism 100%
Suggested reading: Feminism and the Marxist Movement
Your worst ideologies are:
Fusionism -71%
Suggested reading: Sane Economics and Fusionism
Paleoconservatism -90%
Suggested reading: The Paleoconservatives: New Voices of the Old Right
Caliphate -80%
Suggested reading: Caliphate: The History of an Idea
Is it just me or the quiz a series of false-choice scenarios. Also kind of an exercise in back-patting than clarity or insight.
posted by polymodus at 6:55 PM on December 17, 2017
Suggested reading: The Communist Manifesto
Anarcha-feminism 100%
Suggested reading: The Voltairine de Cleyre Reader
Individualist feminism 100%
Suggested reading: Reclaiming the Mainstream
Queer anarchism 100%
Suggested reading: Queering Anarchism: Addressing and Undressing Power and Desire
Marxist feminism 100%
Suggested reading: Feminism and the Marxist Movement
Your worst ideologies are:
Fusionism -71%
Suggested reading: Sane Economics and Fusionism
Paleoconservatism -90%
Suggested reading: The Paleoconservatives: New Voices of the Old Right
Caliphate -80%
Suggested reading: Caliphate: The History of an Idea
Is it just me or the quiz a series of false-choice scenarios. Also kind of an exercise in back-patting than clarity or insight.
posted by polymodus at 6:55 PM on December 17, 2017
God I'm fucking boring.
100% Classical Marxism
100% Anarcha-feminism (I actually am not a fan of anarchism but whatevs, I ladies)
100& Marxist feminism
-43% Fusionism (which I had to look up and it sounds like the actual worst)
-60% Paleoconservatism
-67% Three Principles of the People (???)
posted by soren_lorensen at 7:04 PM on December 17, 2017 [2 favorites]
100% Classical Marxism
100% Anarcha-feminism (I actually am not a fan of anarchism but whatevs, I ladies)
100& Marxist feminism
-43% Fusionism (which I had to look up and it sounds like the actual worst)
-60% Paleoconservatism
-67% Three Principles of the People (???)
posted by soren_lorensen at 7:04 PM on December 17, 2017 [2 favorites]
I sound quite dull as well:
Classical Marxism 88%
Third Way 88%
Marxist feminism 88%
Mutualism -50%
Minarchism -50%
Paleolibertarianism -42%
posted by Johnny Wallflower at 7:10 PM on December 17, 2017
Classical Marxism 88%
Third Way 88%
Marxist feminism 88%
Mutualism -50%
Minarchism -50%
Paleolibertarianism -42%
posted by Johnny Wallflower at 7:10 PM on December 17, 2017
The secret to my success was that every time there was a question where I was like, "Well, I agree if [context]" I'd give a "slightly agree" answer.
posted by soren_lorensen at 7:14 PM on December 17, 2017 [2 favorites]
posted by soren_lorensen at 7:14 PM on December 17, 2017 [2 favorites]
Your top ideologies are:
Kemalism 67%
Social democracy 75%
Third Way 75%
Even after reading the "More information" thing on Kemalism, I don't feel much wiser. But learning that part of what it means is that I apparently (?!) have nationalist leanings came as a surprise.
posted by triggerfinger at 7:15 PM on December 17, 2017
Kemalism 67%
Social democracy 75%
Third Way 75%
Even after reading the "More information" thing on Kemalism, I don't feel much wiser. But learning that part of what it means is that I apparently (?!) have nationalist leanings came as a surprise.
posted by triggerfinger at 7:15 PM on December 17, 2017
Isn't Fusionism pretty much just the modern GOP?
posted by Joakim Ziegler at 7:16 PM on December 17, 2017
posted by Joakim Ziegler at 7:16 PM on December 17, 2017
I don't know how to feel. I guess I'm proud to be the only person so far who has gotten Baathism (60%)?
posted by danny the boy at 7:21 PM on December 17, 2017 [2 favorites]
posted by danny the boy at 7:21 PM on December 17, 2017 [2 favorites]
Green Syndicalism 83%
Communalism 79%
Fourierism 88%
Fusionism -57%
Paleoconservatism -80%
Caliphate -50%
Some of the pros and cons blurbs read like "I really couldn't come up with cons for this one but I have to look like I tried."
posted by Mister Moofoo at 7:23 PM on December 17, 2017
Communalism 79%
Fourierism 88%
Fusionism -57%
Paleoconservatism -80%
Caliphate -50%
Some of the pros and cons blurbs read like "I really couldn't come up with cons for this one but I have to look like I tried."
posted by Mister Moofoo at 7:23 PM on December 17, 2017
Not much surprise here, I guess:
Classical Marxism 88%
Third Way 88%
Marxist feminism 88%
Your worst ideologies are:
Deep ecology -50%
Paleoconservatism -30%
Three Principles of the People -33%
posted by wintermind at 7:40 PM on December 17, 2017
Classical Marxism 88%
Third Way 88%
Marxist feminism 88%
Your worst ideologies are:
Deep ecology -50%
Paleoconservatism -30%
Three Principles of the People -33%
posted by wintermind at 7:40 PM on December 17, 2017
Responding to myself, looks like the trotskyite-neoconservative connection is overblown, and smuggles in some crypto-antisemitism.
posted by the man of twists and turns at 7:53 PM on December 17, 2017
posted by the man of twists and turns at 7:53 PM on December 17, 2017
welcome, all, to the supermarket of ideologies!
posted by indubitable at 7:55 PM on December 17, 2017 [1 favorite]
posted by indubitable at 7:55 PM on December 17, 2017 [1 favorite]
love that this quiz is introducing so many new people to strasserism, good job anarcho-shitheads
posted by indubitable at 8:00 PM on December 17, 2017
posted by indubitable at 8:00 PM on December 17, 2017
92% Green Syndicalism followed by 88% each for Classical Marxism, Anarcha-feminism, Guild socialism, Fourierism, and Marxist feminism.
Turn offs: Paleoconservatives 60%, Three Principles of the People 50%, and Caliphate 50%.
posted by gamera at 8:04 PM on December 17, 2017
Turn offs: Paleoconservatives 60%, Three Principles of the People 50%, and Caliphate 50%.
posted by gamera at 8:04 PM on December 17, 2017
De Leonism: 90%
Anarcha-feminism: 100%
Fourierism: 88%
Marxist feminism: 88%
---
Clerical Fascism: -33%
Fusionism: -50%
Paleoconservatism: -70%
I had never actually heard of De Leon or Fourier so I've got some fun reading to do. I am disappointed that the clerical fascism number isn't lower.
posted by zjacreman at 8:06 PM on December 17, 2017
Anarcha-feminism: 100%
Fourierism: 88%
Marxist feminism: 88%
---
Clerical Fascism: -33%
Fusionism: -50%
Paleoconservatism: -70%
I had never actually heard of De Leon or Fourier so I've got some fun reading to do. I am disappointed that the clerical fascism number isn't lower.
posted by zjacreman at 8:06 PM on December 17, 2017
I honestly don't know what I'd do if I took an ideology quiz and it came up Juche. There'd be some, uh, deep introspection.
posted by zjacreman at 8:12 PM on December 17, 2017
posted by zjacreman at 8:12 PM on December 17, 2017
100% each for anarcho-communism, anarcho-naturism and insurrectionary anarchism (hoo boy), followed by a bunch of other anarchisms, and a -100% for paleoconservatism, three principles of the people and caliphate.
*waves black flag in a cloud of flare smoke*
posted by Aya Hirano on the Astral Plane at 8:14 PM on December 17, 2017 [4 favorites]
*waves black flag in a cloud of flare smoke*
posted by Aya Hirano on the Astral Plane at 8:14 PM on December 17, 2017 [4 favorites]
So this is weird. It says I'm most like the character Joey from Friends. And I hate that show, so I'm not even familiar with the character.
posted by el io at 8:30 PM on December 17, 2017 [3 favorites]
posted by el io at 8:30 PM on December 17, 2017 [3 favorites]
I got 50% Classical Marxism, 50% Anarcha-feminism, 50% Marxist-feminism, and 75% Third Way.
Seems sensible for someone currently surviving the system due to sheer luck and thinks it needs major reshaping.
posted by batter_my_heart at 8:41 PM on December 17, 2017
Seems sensible for someone currently surviving the system due to sheer luck and thinks it needs major reshaping.
posted by batter_my_heart at 8:41 PM on December 17, 2017
Results: Classical Marxism 88%, Anarcha-feminism 100%, Queer anarchism 100%. Not sure why it gives some lower percentages before the higher.
posted by TheophileEscargot at 10:05 PM on December 17, 2017
posted by TheophileEscargot at 10:05 PM on December 17, 2017
Seeing all of these results for Fourierism is... transformative.
heh heh stupid math puns
posted by biogeo at 10:47 PM on December 17, 2017 [14 favorites]
heh heh stupid math puns
posted by biogeo at 10:47 PM on December 17, 2017 [14 favorites]
I got 100% Third Way and 88% Marxist Feminism. That seems like a strange combination.
posted by Justinian at 12:15 AM on December 18, 2017
posted by Justinian at 12:15 AM on December 18, 2017
I wanted to take this test, but after reading the responses I realized I'd have to look all those political theories up, and no.
posted by bongo_x at 12:31 AM on December 18, 2017
posted by bongo_x at 12:31 AM on December 18, 2017
So I’m a pinko, and I already knew that, but what’s my longitude?
posted by pompomtom at 12:34 AM on December 18, 2017 [1 favorite]
posted by pompomtom at 12:34 AM on December 18, 2017 [1 favorite]
So google tells me I’m not the first person to wonder if Joseph Fourier (he of the series) was in anyway related to Charles Fourier (the -ism). But I didn’t find an answer.
I am asking this instead of just telling you I am a social democrat, because that is boring and Not News.
posted by nat at 12:54 AM on December 18, 2017 [3 favorites]
I am asking this instead of just telling you I am a social democrat, because that is boring and Not News.
posted by nat at 12:54 AM on December 18, 2017 [3 favorites]
Seeing all of these results for Fourierism is... transformative.
but its such a convoluted system
(another social democrat/3rd way person here)
posted by crocomancer at 1:14 AM on December 18, 2017 [2 favorites]
but its such a convoluted system
(another social democrat/3rd way person here)
posted by crocomancer at 1:14 AM on December 18, 2017 [2 favorites]
Marxist feminism 75%
Anarcha-feminism 62%
Fourierism 62%
Which is more feminist than I thought I was. I blame Metafilter.
Fusionism -43%
Minarchism -50%
Paleoconservatism -50%
Ah, the old enemies.
posted by antiwiggle at 1:38 AM on December 18, 2017 [1 favorite]
Anarcha-feminism 62%
Fourierism 62%
Which is more feminist than I thought I was. I blame Metafilter.
Fusionism -43%
Minarchism -50%
Paleoconservatism -50%
Ah, the old enemies.
posted by antiwiggle at 1:38 AM on December 18, 2017 [1 favorite]
Top: Kemalism at 58%, with Social Democracy, Pancasila, and Three Principles of the People all tied at 50%
Lowest: Mutualism at -50%, Bleeding-heart libertarianism at -38%, and Minarchism at -42%
I am kind of surprised at the low percentages of my "top" ideologies. It means that even if somehow I got to live my top ideology, I would still only feel at best lukewarm about it while everyone else in this topic would totally be super awesome stoked af with their 100% ideologies.
posted by FJT at 1:46 AM on December 18, 2017
Lowest: Mutualism at -50%, Bleeding-heart libertarianism at -38%, and Minarchism at -42%
I am kind of surprised at the low percentages of my "top" ideologies. It means that even if somehow I got to live my top ideology, I would still only feel at best lukewarm about it while everyone else in this topic would totally be super awesome stoked af with their 100% ideologies.
posted by FJT at 1:46 AM on December 18, 2017
Your top ideologies are:
Anarcho-communism 93%
Insurrectionary anarchism 90%
Neozapatismo 92%
Your worst ideologies are:
Fusionism -71%
Paleoconservatism -90%
Caliphate -90%
Seems legit.
posted by anansi at 2:18 AM on December 18, 2017 [1 favorite]
Anarcho-communism 93%
Insurrectionary anarchism 90%
Neozapatismo 92%
Your worst ideologies are:
Fusionism -71%
Paleoconservatism -90%
Caliphate -90%
Seems legit.
posted by anansi at 2:18 AM on December 18, 2017 [1 favorite]
Welp, apparently I'm a raging Marxist/socialist, although I'm not sure what Third Way is doing in there:
Classical Marxism 100%
Guild socialism 100%
Third Way 100%
Marxist feminism 100%
.
.
.
Minarchism -58%
Paleoconservatism -60%
Paleolibertarianism -58%
Three Principles of the People -67%
posted by Mr. Bad Example at 2:26 AM on December 18, 2017
Classical Marxism 100%
Guild socialism 100%
Third Way 100%
Marxist feminism 100%
.
.
.
Minarchism -58%
Paleoconservatism -60%
Paleolibertarianism -58%
Three Principles of the People -67%
posted by Mr. Bad Example at 2:26 AM on December 18, 2017
I think I confused the quiz.
My closest match at a mere 88% was "Third Way" (ewww, Blairism!), followed by Classical Marxism, Individualist Feminism, and Marxist Feminism, all tied at 75% ... which is quite low,going by the matches everyone else is getting, and seems to be down to me admitting that women are human beings?
On the other hand, I am totally down with being identified as an enemy of Clerico-Fascism and Strasserism.
Maybe I just ticked "slightly agree" and "slightly disagree" rather more than the quiz designers expected?
posted by cstross at 5:09 AM on December 18, 2017 [2 favorites]
My closest match at a mere 88% was "Third Way" (ewww, Blairism!), followed by Classical Marxism, Individualist Feminism, and Marxist Feminism, all tied at 75% ... which is quite low,going by the matches everyone else is getting, and seems to be down to me admitting that women are human beings?
On the other hand, I am totally down with being identified as an enemy of Clerico-Fascism and Strasserism.
Maybe I just ticked "slightly agree" and "slightly disagree" rather more than the quiz designers expected?
posted by cstross at 5:09 AM on December 18, 2017 [2 favorites]
I guess I’m the only Baathist then, huh.
posted by oceanjesse at 5:11 AM on December 18, 2017
posted by oceanjesse at 5:11 AM on December 18, 2017
Reading the list of ideologies I note some interesting omissions, namely no sign of extropianism, Federovism, or technocracy. And while the first two are a little questionable on the organizational front (unless you count Alcor and the cryonics movement as a stand-in for the extropians), the third is a no-shit political party with a manifesto and candidates and a uniform.
Hrm. Also, I notice, no sign of accelerationism or neoreactionism aka Dark Enlightenment, the two scariest and most rapidly emerging ideologies of the new century
Oh, and where are the monarchists in all this? Who will stand up for the divine right to rule of the Hapsburg dynasty?
posted by cstross at 5:17 AM on December 18, 2017 [6 favorites]
Hrm. Also, I notice, no sign of accelerationism or neoreactionism aka Dark Enlightenment, the two scariest and most rapidly emerging ideologies of the new century
Oh, and where are the monarchists in all this? Who will stand up for the divine right to rule of the Hapsburg dynasty?
posted by cstross at 5:17 AM on December 18, 2017 [6 favorites]
oceanjesse: We've had one other Ba’athist, two Juche, and a surprising number of Kemalists.
But given the number of Marxists of various stripes I'm expecting us all to be purged as potential counterrevolutionary influences anyway. /s
posted by Grimgrin at 5:43 AM on December 18, 2017
But given the number of Marxists of various stripes I'm expecting us all to be purged as potential counterrevolutionary influences anyway. /s
posted by Grimgrin at 5:43 AM on December 18, 2017
Your top ideologies are:
Anarcha-feminism 75%
Individualist feminism 75%
Fourierism 75%
Marxist feminism 75%
Your worst ideologies are:
Clerical fascism -42%
Fusionism -57%
Paleoconservatism -90%
Now to look up what, like, half of these mean
posted by Panthalassa at 6:19 AM on December 18, 2017
Anarcha-feminism 75%
Individualist feminism 75%
Fourierism 75%
Marxist feminism 75%
Your worst ideologies are:
Clerical fascism -42%
Fusionism -57%
Paleoconservatism -90%
Now to look up what, like, half of these mean
posted by Panthalassa at 6:19 AM on December 18, 2017
Ok I looked them up.
Individualist feminism and Fourierism can go take a hike. Anarcha-feminism and Marxist feminism, you're good.
Clerical fascism is at least as bad as fusionism if not paleoconservatism, come on.
posted by Panthalassa at 6:34 AM on December 18, 2017
Individualist feminism and Fourierism can go take a hike. Anarcha-feminism and Marxist feminism, you're good.
Clerical fascism is at least as bad as fusionism if not paleoconservatism, come on.
posted by Panthalassa at 6:34 AM on December 18, 2017
Your top ideologies are:
Green syndicalism 75%
Guild socialism 75%
Social democracy 75%
Your worst ideologies are:
Clerical fascism -42%
Civic nationalism -50%
Compassionate conservatism -33%
Odalism -33%
I read the entire Green Syndicalism article and I still don't know what the hell it means. I read the Guild Socialism article and I'm not at all sure why I ended up with it. Social Democracy, I think I agree? No clue why feminism is nowhere to be seen, honestly.
I'm totally down with the Clerical Fascism number and it probably should be higher because I think that religions should 100% get the fuck out of government. Compassionate Conservatism is a load of bullshit, too. And I think borders ought to be way more transparent than they are, or even gone altogether. So I guess this is accurate?
Still, I wish I understood the ones I supposedly identify with.
posted by cooker girl at 6:47 AM on December 18, 2017
Green syndicalism 75%
Guild socialism 75%
Social democracy 75%
Your worst ideologies are:
Clerical fascism -42%
Civic nationalism -50%
Compassionate conservatism -33%
Odalism -33%
I read the entire Green Syndicalism article and I still don't know what the hell it means. I read the Guild Socialism article and I'm not at all sure why I ended up with it. Social Democracy, I think I agree? No clue why feminism is nowhere to be seen, honestly.
I'm totally down with the Clerical Fascism number and it probably should be higher because I think that religions should 100% get the fuck out of government. Compassionate Conservatism is a load of bullshit, too. And I think borders ought to be way more transparent than they are, or even gone altogether. So I guess this is accurate?
Still, I wish I understood the ones I supposedly identify with.
posted by cooker girl at 6:47 AM on December 18, 2017
Anarcho-naturism/feminism 75% and Communalism 71%. I've read Walden once upon a time, but I'm happy to read The Voltairine de Cleyre Reader and Post-Scarcity Anarchism at some point.
Also -50% for Paleoconservatism, Pancasila, and Caliphate unsurprisingly, well presumably you cannot score below -50%.
I left many No Opinions when I felt the question came off imprecisely worded:
Yes, "we should strive to remove hierarchy where we can", except what do you mean by hierarchy? If I left this as only slightly agree then also scored 62% Classical/Feminist Marxist, which makes zero sense, and 67% Deep Ecology, which likely makes sense.
"We should strive to abolish wages" sounds great, but also so futuristic that I cannot imagine clarifying the details. Yes, "Communism [was] a [horrible] failure" but what the hell is "any such system"? I've no idea if "Taxation of land and buildings should [eventually] be the primary source of government revenue", not right now, but maybe eventually. All these No opinion for extreme vagueness.
To me, a question like "Government should only be involved in the administration of vital services like the police and fire services" sounds silly because obviously companies will not provide needed services, funding, etc., but neither do governments do so willingly.
In fact, I actually support strong voting reforms like demarchy/sortition as opposed to true anarchism, but favor a non-hierarchical government structure, in which modified referenda allocate the budget and portions of government are permitted to simply fail when the citizens withdraw their funding.
In essence, we need to spend more on education, science, environment, real technological development, etc. than on the military, but no existent government style has ever managed to do so. I'd therefore suggest we try asking every citizen to write down how much they want us to spend on different area of government.
I'm not like vehemently pro-democracy, anti/pro-hierarchy, etc. but I simply do not believe that any political ideology has the capacity to overcome human nature in the ways needed to implement the reforms said ideology espouses. We cannot design authoritarian regimes to overcome human nature, well not one run by humans anyways, so we must design democratic institutions to maximize our chances of reaching the correct decisions.
I'd say read A Darwinian Left: Politics, Evolution and Cooperation by Peter Singer,
some math about voting systems, etc.
I similarly gave No opinion to ".. underground markets.", "Society [imposing] code of conduct", and "proud of my culture" for much less important reasons.
posted by jeffburdges at 7:16 AM on December 18, 2017 [1 favorite]
Also -50% for Paleoconservatism, Pancasila, and Caliphate unsurprisingly, well presumably you cannot score below -50%.
I left many No Opinions when I felt the question came off imprecisely worded:
Yes, "we should strive to remove hierarchy where we can", except what do you mean by hierarchy? If I left this as only slightly agree then also scored 62% Classical/Feminist Marxist, which makes zero sense, and 67% Deep Ecology, which likely makes sense.
"We should strive to abolish wages" sounds great, but also so futuristic that I cannot imagine clarifying the details. Yes, "Communism [was] a [horrible] failure" but what the hell is "any such system"? I've no idea if "Taxation of land and buildings should [eventually] be the primary source of government revenue", not right now, but maybe eventually. All these No opinion for extreme vagueness.
To me, a question like "Government should only be involved in the administration of vital services like the police and fire services" sounds silly because obviously companies will not provide needed services, funding, etc., but neither do governments do so willingly.
In fact, I actually support strong voting reforms like demarchy/sortition as opposed to true anarchism, but favor a non-hierarchical government structure, in which modified referenda allocate the budget and portions of government are permitted to simply fail when the citizens withdraw their funding.
In essence, we need to spend more on education, science, environment, real technological development, etc. than on the military, but no existent government style has ever managed to do so. I'd therefore suggest we try asking every citizen to write down how much they want us to spend on different area of government.
I'm not like vehemently pro-democracy, anti/pro-hierarchy, etc. but I simply do not believe that any political ideology has the capacity to overcome human nature in the ways needed to implement the reforms said ideology espouses. We cannot design authoritarian regimes to overcome human nature, well not one run by humans anyways, so we must design democratic institutions to maximize our chances of reaching the correct decisions.
I'd say read A Darwinian Left: Politics, Evolution and Cooperation by Peter Singer,
some math about voting systems, etc.
I similarly gave No opinion to ".. underground markets.", "Society [imposing] code of conduct", and "proud of my culture" for much less important reasons.
posted by jeffburdges at 7:16 AM on December 18, 2017 [1 favorite]
> The secret to my success was that every time there was a question where I was like, "Well, I agree if [context]" I'd give a "slightly agree" answer.
Same here. It's silly (in my opinion) to overuse "No opinion," and in general to overthink the test. Come on, it's a fun thought-provoker and argument-starter, not a serious attempt to place everyone exactly. Yes, if it had a thousand possible political positions and ten thousand questions it would doubtless do a better job, except that nobody would take it.
posted by languagehat at 7:31 AM on December 18, 2017 [7 favorites]
Same here. It's silly (in my opinion) to overuse "No opinion," and in general to overthink the test. Come on, it's a fun thought-provoker and argument-starter, not a serious attempt to place everyone exactly. Yes, if it had a thousand possible political positions and ten thousand questions it would doubtless do a better job, except that nobody would take it.
posted by languagehat at 7:31 AM on December 18, 2017 [7 favorites]
My top three were Anarcha-Feminism, Individualist Feminism, and Queer Anarchism... which as a straight white man who has historically viewed anarchist solutions with extreme skepticism, I find fascinating. I mean,
I am often described at work as “that guy who really cares about process”.
I suspect that this is a case where my answers managed to reflect my view that “power structures really suck” without also including “but they are often necessary for actually accomplishing things, and should therefore be well designed”. Also, “women and queer people are actually real people”.
However, I now have a few new articles to read! Which I suspect is the real purpose of this quiz.
posted by fencerjimmy at 8:47 AM on December 18, 2017
I am often described at work as “that guy who really cares about process”.
I suspect that this is a case where my answers managed to reflect my view that “power structures really suck” without also including “but they are often necessary for actually accomplishing things, and should therefore be well designed”. Also, “women and queer people are actually real people”.
However, I now have a few new articles to read! Which I suspect is the real purpose of this quiz.
posted by fencerjimmy at 8:47 AM on December 18, 2017
(Oddly enough, the anarchist disdain for hierarchy means that effective anarchist groups actually rely heavily on established processes. Replacing de jure leaders with community-oriented processes is kind of their whole thing.)
posted by tobascodagama at 8:54 AM on December 18, 2017 [9 favorites]
posted by tobascodagama at 8:54 AM on December 18, 2017 [9 favorites]
Classical Marxism 75%
Guild socialism 75%
Liberal socialism 79%
Third Way 88%
Marxist feminism 75%
Mutualism -50%
Paleoconservatism -60%
Paleolibertarianism -50%
posted by defenestration at 9:19 AM on December 18, 2017
Guild socialism 75%
Liberal socialism 79%
Third Way 88%
Marxist feminism 75%
Mutualism -50%
Paleoconservatism -60%
Paleolibertarianism -50%
posted by defenestration at 9:19 AM on December 18, 2017
I took it a second time, reading the pros and cons columns this time. I got:
Classical Marxism 100%
Collectivist Anarchism 100%
Anarcha-feminism 100%
Marxist feminism 100%
Minarchism -33%
Fusionism -43%
Paleoconservatism -50%
Ada *is* my favorite character on Peaky Blinders, but other thanthat, I’m not sure what to say about my results (other than that I agree that I’m a feminist).
posted by epj at 9:31 AM on December 18, 2017
Classical Marxism 100%
Collectivist Anarchism 100%
Anarcha-feminism 100%
Marxist feminism 100%
Minarchism -33%
Fusionism -43%
Paleoconservatism -50%
Ada *is* my favorite character on Peaky Blinders, but other thanthat, I’m not sure what to say about my results (other than that I agree that I’m a feminist).
posted by epj at 9:31 AM on December 18, 2017
Anarcha-feminism 100% / Classical Marxism 88% / Marxist feminism 88%
Fusionism -36% / Three Principles of the People -50% / Paleoconservatism -60%
"Fusionism" is apparently a post-WWII fusion of Christian fundamentalism and Libertarianism, combining the dogmatic authoritarianism of one with the "merit-based" snowflakeism of the other.
I had to put some thought into interpreting several of the questions, especially the religion ones. Eventually, I settled on the standard "liberal" answers - religion should not be a core part of government - but I had to wrestle with it, because I tend to think most governments would be better with more acknowledgement of people's spirituality. (I would really really like us to get away from the neoliberalist notion that all human interactions should be modeled as economic exchanges.)
But that doesn't mean "build a specific religion's principles into the government." I'd like to think a government could be supportive of religious devotions and religious diversity without needing specific religious leaders in positions of power, and without one religion's ideology baked into the structure.
posted by ErisLordFreedom at 9:32 AM on December 18, 2017 [1 favorite]
Fusionism -36% / Three Principles of the People -50% / Paleoconservatism -60%
"Fusionism" is apparently a post-WWII fusion of Christian fundamentalism and Libertarianism, combining the dogmatic authoritarianism of one with the "merit-based" snowflakeism of the other.
I had to put some thought into interpreting several of the questions, especially the religion ones. Eventually, I settled on the standard "liberal" answers - religion should not be a core part of government - but I had to wrestle with it, because I tend to think most governments would be better with more acknowledgement of people's spirituality. (I would really really like us to get away from the neoliberalist notion that all human interactions should be modeled as economic exchanges.)
But that doesn't mean "build a specific religion's principles into the government." I'd like to think a government could be supportive of religious devotions and religious diversity without needing specific religious leaders in positions of power, and without one religion's ideology baked into the structure.
posted by ErisLordFreedom at 9:32 AM on December 18, 2017 [1 favorite]
But given the number of Marxists of various stripes I'm expecting us all to be purged as potential counterrevolutionary influences anyway. /s
I am certainly struck by how similar everyone's results are. Or at least among the folks who are posting their results. It does often feel like there are some dominant shared values among the outspoken of Mefi.
posted by danny the boy at 10:07 AM on December 18, 2017 [1 favorite]
I am certainly struck by how similar everyone's results are. Or at least among the folks who are posting their results. It does often feel like there are some dominant shared values among the outspoken of Mefi.
posted by danny the boy at 10:07 AM on December 18, 2017 [1 favorite]
The formation of the posters union
posted by The Whelk at 11:31 AM on December 18, 2017 [2 favorites]
posted by The Whelk at 11:31 AM on December 18, 2017 [2 favorites]
A great deal of no opinions to several of the statements because, like jeffburdgess, the questions were ill-defined. "It is moral and justified for someone to profit from ownership of private property " Are we talking rent seeking, or are we talking owning a business that serves the community. Because both are owning private property and both are profiting from it.
"The betterment of society should be a primary goal of the members of said society " what is the betterment of society? A more just, more equal, society in which every individual has the humanity of every other human drilled into them as the basic focus of education is a better society to me. And then we get into definitions of just, etc. Slightly agree, because it's so vague.
"Society should not seek to impose any specific code of conduct on the individual " Yes and no. Consent and harm are what matter. Codes of conduct that prevent harm to others are ideal. Codes of conduct that restrict what an individual can do to themselves and those who consensual participate in whatever activity should not exist. Are we talking about codes that hold people directly responsible for actions that harm others, be in shooting someone or dumping toxic waste, or are we talking no gay people type codes?
"The rights of the individual should be paramount " Which rights? Economic rights, ownership rights, civil rights, bodily rights? Where do things like gun rights fall? What about owning a car that is in bad repair and may cause an accident? Does it matter if the person is unable to get repairs made?
I guess I've become too much of a pragmatist to answer these questions. Also, people could agree with the statement while fundamentally disagreeing with the conclusions I'm drawing from it.
The quiz is poorly designed. The highest match I got was 62%, with several versions of Marxism there. Given that I view Marxism as starting with a small cadre of individuals who take over a revolution (and who are supposed to then put themselves out of power, but that never happens), I will never support a Marxist movement. The ideas are pretty but anyone who wants power should not have it and no revolutionary organization has ever been created by people who do not believe that they should have power in the end because they will put things right.
posted by Hactar at 11:35 AM on December 18, 2017
"The betterment of society should be a primary goal of the members of said society " what is the betterment of society? A more just, more equal, society in which every individual has the humanity of every other human drilled into them as the basic focus of education is a better society to me. And then we get into definitions of just, etc. Slightly agree, because it's so vague.
"Society should not seek to impose any specific code of conduct on the individual " Yes and no. Consent and harm are what matter. Codes of conduct that prevent harm to others are ideal. Codes of conduct that restrict what an individual can do to themselves and those who consensual participate in whatever activity should not exist. Are we talking about codes that hold people directly responsible for actions that harm others, be in shooting someone or dumping toxic waste, or are we talking no gay people type codes?
"The rights of the individual should be paramount " Which rights? Economic rights, ownership rights, civil rights, bodily rights? Where do things like gun rights fall? What about owning a car that is in bad repair and may cause an accident? Does it matter if the person is unable to get repairs made?
I guess I've become too much of a pragmatist to answer these questions. Also, people could agree with the statement while fundamentally disagreeing with the conclusions I'm drawing from it.
The quiz is poorly designed. The highest match I got was 62%, with several versions of Marxism there. Given that I view Marxism as starting with a small cadre of individuals who take over a revolution (and who are supposed to then put themselves out of power, but that never happens), I will never support a Marxist movement. The ideas are pretty but anyone who wants power should not have it and no revolutionary organization has ever been created by people who do not believe that they should have power in the end because they will put things right.
posted by Hactar at 11:35 AM on December 18, 2017
Given that I view Marxism as...
TBH It's probably based on the actual definition of Marxism rather than that. Might be worth looking up. Links are available!
posted by Artw at 12:42 PM on December 18, 2017 [4 favorites]
TBH It's probably based on the actual definition of Marxism rather than that. Might be worth looking up. Links are available!
posted by Artw at 12:42 PM on December 18, 2017 [4 favorites]
Given that I view Marxism as starting with a small cadre of individuals who take over a revolution
I think that's more what's called Marxism-Leninism, though one stereotype that is fairly accurate is that you are likely, talking to most any sort of self-identified Marxist, to get a variety of opinions about who has the right and wrong ideas about Marx.
posted by atoxyl at 1:24 PM on December 18, 2017 [3 favorites]
I think that's more what's called Marxism-Leninism, though one stereotype that is fairly accurate is that you are likely, talking to most any sort of self-identified Marxist, to get a variety of opinions about who has the right and wrong ideas about Marx.
posted by atoxyl at 1:24 PM on December 18, 2017 [3 favorites]
So I took the quiz and got pretty much the same answers as everyone else here.
Classical Marxism 75%
Anarcha-feminism 75%
Third Way 75%
Marxist feminism 75%
Mutualism -25%
Fusionism -21%
Paleoconservatism -50%
The thing is, as I'm taking it I'm becoming convinced that I'm not as Left as I think (as opposed to the first time I took one of these many years ago, where I was way further Left than I thought), so the results were a little surprising.
I don't think there's a problem with the quality of the questions. They need to be vague. What some people want is for it to be more obvious "what answer gives me the outcome I would like to get" and that's not very helpful.
The real problem I see is that there are not anything like enough questions to get a nuanced result.
That's why everyone is getting nearly the same result.
posted by bongo_x at 5:06 PM on December 18, 2017
Classical Marxism 75%
Anarcha-feminism 75%
Third Way 75%
Marxist feminism 75%
Mutualism -25%
Fusionism -21%
Paleoconservatism -50%
The thing is, as I'm taking it I'm becoming convinced that I'm not as Left as I think (as opposed to the first time I took one of these many years ago, where I was way further Left than I thought), so the results were a little surprising.
I don't think there's a problem with the quality of the questions. They need to be vague. What some people want is for it to be more obvious "what answer gives me the outcome I would like to get" and that's not very helpful.
The real problem I see is that there are not anything like enough questions to get a nuanced result.
That's why everyone is getting nearly the same result.
posted by bongo_x at 5:06 PM on December 18, 2017
I ended up clicking on the "pros" and "cons" when something seemed irreducibly complex and based my arguments on those. In one case, the argument was poor enough to make me rethink my position.
Marxist feminism 88%
Collectivist anarchism 80%
Classical Marxism 75%
Anarcha-feminism 75%
Guild socialism 75%
Bleeding-heart libertarianism -38%
Geolibertarianism -38%
Paleoconservatism -70%
Three Principles of the People -50%
I also have an overwhelming urge to challenge lazycomputerkids to a duel...
I haven't heard of most of these. I am intrigued. I'm also baffled by you people who got 100% of things! I apparently top out under 90%. I'm glad I'm not the only one.
posted by Deoridhe at 6:13 PM on December 18, 2017
Marxist feminism 88%
Collectivist anarchism 80%
Classical Marxism 75%
Anarcha-feminism 75%
Guild socialism 75%
Bleeding-heart libertarianism -38%
Geolibertarianism -38%
Paleoconservatism -70%
Three Principles of the People -50%
I also have an overwhelming urge to challenge lazycomputerkids to a duel...
I haven't heard of most of these. I am intrigued. I'm also baffled by you people who got 100% of things! I apparently top out under 90%. I'm glad I'm not the only one.
posted by Deoridhe at 6:13 PM on December 18, 2017
a small cadre of individuals who take over a revolution
This is like the defining contribution of Leninism.
posted by Ray Walston, Luck Dragon at 6:19 PM on December 18, 2017 [1 favorite]
This is like the defining contribution of Leninism.
posted by Ray Walston, Luck Dragon at 6:19 PM on December 18, 2017 [1 favorite]
Okay, I'm kind of surprised that Three Principles of the People is so low for everyone. Cause it was first made by Dr. Sun Yat-Sen, the "Father of Modern China". And to me it's kinda mushy as a governing philosophy, because both Communist China and Nationalist China claim to be a continuation of 3PP. And it's not like the Three Principles are like greed, being an asshole, and never tipping. They're being supportive of nationalism/populism, democracy, and the people's welfare.
Yet, the maligned 3rd Way seems to be much more popular than 3PP. Except for me, where 3PP is #2 (though tied with two others).
posted by FJT at 7:04 PM on December 18, 2017 [1 favorite]
Yet, the maligned 3rd Way seems to be much more popular than 3PP. Except for me, where 3PP is #2 (though tied with two others).
posted by FJT at 7:04 PM on December 18, 2017 [1 favorite]
Luxemburgism: +92%
(I confess I was ignorant of Rosa Luxemburg and had to look her up; Wikipedia led me to believe that Luxemburgism is like Trotskyism for ladies.)
Paleoconservatism: -100%
(I'm proud of that one.)
posted by elsietheeel at 9:00 PM on December 18, 2017 [2 favorites]
(I confess I was ignorant of Rosa Luxemburg and had to look her up; Wikipedia led me to believe that Luxemburgism is like Trotskyism for ladies.)
Paleoconservatism: -100%
(I'm proud of that one.)
posted by elsietheeel at 9:00 PM on December 18, 2017 [2 favorites]
Luxemburgism is like Trotskyism for ladies.
That's got to be part of a killer pickup line.
posted by bongo_x at 9:21 PM on December 18, 2017 [2 favorites]
That's got to be part of a killer pickup line.
posted by bongo_x at 9:21 PM on December 18, 2017 [2 favorites]
(Luxemburgism is seeing a revival as of late as a way to counter authoritarian power grabs via more direct democracy basically ... everywhere.)
posted by The Whelk at 9:28 PM on December 18, 2017 [3 favorites]
posted by The Whelk at 9:28 PM on December 18, 2017 [3 favorites]
Okay, I'm kind of surprised that Three Principles of the People is so low for everyone. ... They're being supportive of nationalism/populism, democracy, and the people's welfare.
I imagine the nationalism component is what's dragging that down for everyone here. I get that it's not an ethno-centric nationalism, but you still can't expect that kind of idea to resonate with a group of mostly-leftist mostly-Americans in 2017.
posted by tobascodagama at 7:41 AM on December 19, 2017 [2 favorites]
I imagine the nationalism component is what's dragging that down for everyone here. I get that it's not an ethno-centric nationalism, but you still can't expect that kind of idea to resonate with a group of mostly-leftist mostly-Americans in 2017.
posted by tobascodagama at 7:41 AM on December 19, 2017 [2 favorites]
Eh, if this silly little quiz gets more people to read a little bit about what some of these political philosophies actually are, rather than their stereotypes in US political culture, that seems useful.
posted by eviemath at 12:23 PM on December 19, 2017 [3 favorites]
posted by eviemath at 12:23 PM on December 19, 2017 [3 favorites]
TOP:
Classical Marxism 88%
De Leonism 90%
Marxism-Leninism 92%
Fourierism 88%
Marxist feminism 88%
WORST:
Clerical fascism -25%
Bleeding-heart libertarianism -25%
Fusionism -29%
Paleoconservatism -60%
posted by brundlefly at 12:50 PM on December 19, 2017
Classical Marxism 88%
De Leonism 90%
Marxism-Leninism 92%
Fourierism 88%
Marxist feminism 88%
WORST:
Clerical fascism -25%
Bleeding-heart libertarianism -25%
Fusionism -29%
Paleoconservatism -60%
posted by brundlefly at 12:50 PM on December 19, 2017
Neither communitarianism nor Christian Democracy nor distributism is on this list, it is woefully incomplete
posted by Apocryphon at 9:41 PM on December 19, 2017
posted by Apocryphon at 9:41 PM on December 19, 2017
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