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	<title>Comments on: Comments on 17199</title>
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	<pubDate>Thu, 16 May 2002 13:52:42 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Post number 17199</title>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.antiwargame.org/"&gt;Sim-President?&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br /&gt;FutureFarmers have released another thought provoking Flash site that is designed to make you think. Thsi time you get to play at running the country after a terrorist attack (where did they get that idea). Manage the budget, fight for oil and don&apos;t piss off big business (or they will assassinate you).

FutureFarmers have a long history of making Flash content with a political message. Their &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.theyrule.net/&quot;&gt;They Rule&lt;/a&gt; site recently won a Net Excellence award from ARS Electronica, and their &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.futurefarmers.com/texandrawl/index.html&quot;&gt;Texas Draw&lt;/a&gt; site has been featured here.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 May 2002 12:35:44 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>DragonBoy</dc:creator>		<category>futurefarmers</category>		<category>sim</category>		<category>game</category>		<category>flash</category>		<category>president</category>
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		<title>By: jragon</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/17199/#277552</link>	
		<description>Well, that blows the pants off the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.baresquare.com/play/blind/index.html&quot;&gt;war game&lt;/a&gt; I made for 9/11.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 May 2002 13:52:42 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: adnanbwp</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/17199/#277555</link>	
		<description>STUPID SOLDIERS DOING WEED.. arrrgghh.. got me killed by the right..</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 May 2002 13:57:50 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: howa2396</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/17199/#277557</link>	
		<description>damn... too much effort.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 May 2002 13:59:07 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Apoch</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/17199/#277561</link>	
		<description>The whole soldiers doped up thing I just didn&apos;t get at all. It&apos;s like the game has no real way to win. Which could be the point. But if they are going to get that ham-handed with their propoganda, why don&apos;t they just type up in a manifesto so I can more easily ignore it?</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 May 2002 14:04:46 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dhartung</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/17199/#277579</link>	
		<description>It&apos;s very high-minded to set &lt;i&gt;for yourself&lt;/i&gt; the Victory Condition of &lt;i&gt;Avoid War&lt;/i&gt;. The trouble is when the other player has different motivations.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 May 2002 14:44:25 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: skylar</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/17199/#277599</link>	
		<description>Is it just me or does it not work? I&apos;m on a Mac, most Flash sites work, but not this one.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 May 2002 15:44:34 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: plemeljr</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/17199/#277612</link>	
		<description>skylar...I&apos;m on a peecee and it had some troubles.

&lt;i&gt;It&apos;s very high-minded to set for yourself the Victory Condition of Avoid War. The trouble is when the other player has different motivations.&lt;/i&gt;

I played this damn thing for at least 45 minutes and I still lost.  no matter if I was a hawk or a dove.  If I played a hawk my armies just ended up high and dead, while as a dove the economy dried up and the people rose up in popular dissent and assasinated me.

&lt;i&gt;An interesting game - the only winning move is not to play. &lt;/i&gt;- Joshua</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 May 2002 16:33:08 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: willnot</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/17199/#277618</link>	
		<description>You need to promote a soldier to an officer, and have them motivate one of the soldiers doing weed.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 May 2002 17:04:35 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ZachsMind</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/17199/#277625</link>	
		<description>Then the soldiers doing weed just frag their own officers. Way cheesy game. The GUI is cute but the functionality is weak. I had to put too much into business to keep from getting assassinated. The game just mirrors my own assumptions that others have mentioned in here. There is no way to win this if you treat it like a game.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 May 2002 17:21:14 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>ZachsMind</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: dhartung</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/17199/#277674</link>	
		<description>Indymedia tripe. They did their research by watching one too many Oliver Stone movies.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 May 2002 18:57:38 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: raaka</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/17199/#277699</link>	
		<description>I got all the way to nuclear war. I win!</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 May 2002 19:52:56 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: AFrayedKnot</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/17199/#277746</link>	
		<description>Tripe, but still better than anything Michael Moore could come up with.

I did like their conspiratorial &quot;They Rule&quot; thing.  Of course I also make sure that I unplug my TV and turn it towards a wall when I&apos;m done watching it so &quot;They&quot; can&apos;t spy on me.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 May 2002 22:39:01 -0800</pubDate>
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