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June 5, 2002
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Coming soon to a theater near you: Occupation 101.
posted by gazingus (21 comments total)

 
Oh boy. Now you started it
posted by matteo at 10:36 AM on June 5, 2002


Anyone seen that Spiderman movie yet? I hear it's pretty good.
posted by hackly_fracture at 10:42 AM on June 5, 2002


Awesome movie, Spiderman!
Check out this article on Slate about Spiderman's sex life?
posted by matteo at 10:45 AM on June 5, 2002


There's nothing I enjoy more at the movies than to get sanctimonious, historically inaccurate lectures from Noam Chomsky and Ramsey Clark. Yawn.
posted by ljromanoff at 10:50 AM on June 5, 2002


What historically inaccurate Chomsky and Clark Palestinian occupation lecture examples do you have LJRomanoff?
posted by mblandi at 11:05 AM on June 5, 2002


Pointless "project." If there ever was an occupation, it was by Jordan and Egypt. Thankfully, these assholes have no power or influence.
posted by ParisParamus at 11:11 AM on June 5, 2002


How about that big-eyed little kid at the upper left hand corner of the page? Surely whatever the side this little child represents is the one that all decent people must adhere to. What kind of moral monster could oppose that child?
posted by Faze at 11:11 AM on June 5, 2002


What historically inaccurate Chomsky and Clark Palestinian occupation lecture examples do you have LJRomanoff?

mblandi, for one that's been already discussed here and, unfortunately, in many many other MeFi threads that turned, like this one is already and quickly going to, in a painful flame war between people unwilling to change their mind and to listen to the other side's voice

Have fun
posted by matteo at 11:15 AM on June 5, 2002


Oh. And what y2karl said here
posted by matteo at 11:18 AM on June 5, 2002


I am reminded of Life As A House, which shows us how fleeting and precious each day really is.
posted by Skot at 11:18 AM on June 5, 2002


um, i don't get it. the site seems to be down. i'm guessing this isn't a real movie website?
posted by schlaager at 11:31 AM on June 5, 2002


Thanks, gazingus. I for one will keep a look-out for the film. Don't be discouraged by the flack from some of the above posters- there are plenty of people out there who appreciate alternative sources and who refuse to swallow conventional wisdom, even as it is shoved down our throats. Keep it up.
posted by mapalm at 11:34 AM on June 5, 2002


There's no historical inaccuracies pointed out in that thread, and very little substance in general, Matteo. I don't mind if Chomsky is wrong. I do dislike irresponsible posting of sarcastic baseless character-attacks. My ears are open to both sides if they can back up their arguments.

I favor Rebeccablood's entry about complexity in this case.
posted by mblandi at 12:15 PM on June 5, 2002


I do dislike irresponsible posting of sarcastic baseless character-attacks.

Funny, I haven't seen you objecting to the regular sarcastic baseless character attacks on Bush that appear here on a regular basis.

I guess it all depends on who's being "attacked," right?
posted by ljromanoff at 12:31 PM on June 5, 2002


The list of those interviewed for the film includes Jews, Christians, Muslims, Israelis, Palestinians, Americans, and others. Obviously it is going to annoy and anger some people because it's a political film on one side of the issue, however it is admirable and impressive that the filmmakers were able to get so many different types of people together to speak their minds.

Regardless of what you think of the intent and/or politics behind the film, it seems that a lot of work, research, and time has been put into it, which is a good thing even if you are opposed to the overall message.
posted by cell divide at 12:38 PM on June 5, 2002


well said, cell divide.
posted by gazingus at 1:24 PM on June 5, 2002


You're right, I shouldn't paint myself as the defender of Rhetoric since I haven't pointed out Bush-bashing, though I agree it is useless. I guess I was being sanctimonious. Sorry for that bit, reading that old DenBeste thread gets the ire up.

These Chomsky flamewars always amount to "Chomsky hates America" and you got specific. I wanted to see if you had any substance behind your accusation since no one else offers any.


As for the movie, I am sure it won't come even close to a theater near me. I'd like to see it though, because I haven't seen much footage of life in the settlements. The frontline piece a month or so ago concentrated mostly on the IDF.
posted by mblandi at 1:58 PM on June 5, 2002


You know, I'm starting not to care about this subject anymore. And that frightens me. We all need to have a bit of bourbon and a nice relaxing foot massage.
posted by evanizer at 3:24 PM on June 5, 2002


evanizer, as always your advice is impeccable. You don't mind if I substitute for the bourbon, I trust? Bourbon tends to make me - shall we say - supercilious.
posted by mr_crash_davis at 4:17 PM on June 5, 2002


Funny, I haven't seen you objecting to the regular sarcastic baseless character attacks on Bush that appear here on a regular basis.


Get off it ljr, we all have our biases and interests. I'm not going to police the crap out of every comment in every thread so I can build some false sense of credibility with you or anyone else. I'll point out baseless character attacks in threads I read, on those I feel I know enough about, and whenever the hell I feel like it. If I only defended Chomsky and no one else doesn't mean my points are moot nor does that mean because I did I have to police the entire web. Nice, little logical fallacy you got there.

Defense of one character doesn't mean hatred for the rest or that not being a consistant mefi policeman means anything significant.
posted by skallas at 5:43 PM on June 5, 2002


Get off it ljr, we all have our biases and interests. I'm not going to police the crap out of every comment in every thread so I can build some false sense of credibility with you or anyone else.

No, sir, you get off it. One can not make a universal statement like "I do dislike irresponsible posting of sarcastic baseless character-attacks." and only apply it to the particular and expect to be taken seriously.

If I only defended Chomsky and no one else doesn't mean my points are moot

That would depend on the way you defended him.
posted by ljromanoff at 6:51 AM on June 6, 2002


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