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	<title>Comments on: Bon voyage, mes amis...</title>
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	<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jun 2002 01:41:17 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Bon voyage, mes amis...</title>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://worldcup.espnsoccernet.com/index?lang=en"&gt;Bon voyage, mes amis...&lt;/a&gt; France now holds the dubious honor of being the first World Cup champs to drop out in the first round of the subsequent Cup tournament (i.e. Champs in &apos;98/Goats in &apos;02) since Brazil &apos;66. 

Somebody, strike up Sergio Mendez for me...</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jun 2002 01:37:52 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Frasermoo</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/17727/Bon-voyage-mes-amis#288523</link>	
		<description>and not one goal.

what a load of Le Muppets.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jun 2002 01:41:17 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ParisParamus</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/17727/Bon-voyage-mes-amis#288525</link>	
		<description>Good. There is poetic justice, or divine justice for their odious foreign policy.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jun 2002 01:56:08 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: quarsan</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/17727/Bon-voyage-mes-amis#288526</link>	
		<description>i blame le pen.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jun 2002 01:59:20 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dagny</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/17727/Bon-voyage-mes-amis#288527</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=http://new.wavlist.com/movies/029/av-loser.wav&gt;!&lt;/a&gt; (.wav file)</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jun 2002 02:10:15 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: bifter</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/17727/Bon-voyage-mes-amis#288528</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Good. There is poetic justice, or divine justice for their odious foreign policy.&lt;/i&gt;

So Israel&apos;s performance in this and previous World Cups would seem to show...

(sorry lads, couldn&apos;t resist ;-))</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jun 2002 02:19:19 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mossy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/17727/Bon-voyage-mes-amis#288531</link>	
		<description>So how on earth are the US doing well?!? Maybe its because the football is as linked with the psyche of the nation there :)

Cisse, top scorer in the French league, Henry, top scorer in the English Premiership, Trezuguet (sp?), top scorer in Serie A, and not a goal to show for it..</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jun 2002 02:45:48 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Turtle</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/17727/Bon-voyage-mes-amis#288532</link>	
		<description>It&apos;s a sad day here in Paris.  Silly as it may seem, identifying with a bunch of guys kicking a ball around can really affect your mood.  The rush of euphoria in 1998 was unbelievable.  The loss this year is just quietly depressing.

I didn&apos;t think they would go very far because they seemed too old, too spoiled, and too tired.  It&apos;s still a damn shame we won&apos;t get to see more of Zidane doing his magical stuff.  But the show goes on and good luck to the other teams.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jun 2002 03:04:19 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: zoopraxiscope</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/17727/Bon-voyage-mes-amis#288539</link>	
		<description>well, i was watching the game on espn but now that i know how it effing ends....</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jun 2002 03:54:05 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: emf</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/17727/Bon-voyage-mes-amis#288543</link>	
		<description>I just love the Senegalese people. Their team just drew a great game with  Uruguay, and they had such beautiful smiles.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jun 2002 04:06:52 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Bixby23</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/17727/Bon-voyage-mes-amis#288547</link>	
		<description>According to a BBC announcer I heard (not cool enough to know which one, sorry), it was &quot;easily the best game [I&apos;ve seen] of the entire tournament.&quot;

Bet that missed header at the end will dog Uruguay for some time (at least four years would be my guess)...</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jun 2002 04:22:58 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Bixby23</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/17727/Bon-voyage-mes-amis#288548</link>	
		<description>Erm...&quot;it&quot; being the Uruguay-Senegal game, that is. Sorry...</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jun 2002 04:24:02 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: muckster</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/17727/Bon-voyage-mes-amis#288552</link>	
		<description>Anybody in Astoria, Queens? I&apos;m heading down to the Irish Rover on 28th Ave and 38th St for Germany-Cameroon and Ireland-Saudi Arabia.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jun 2002 04:29:53 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Hjorth</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/17727/Bon-voyage-mes-amis#288555</link>	
		<description>Since they haven&apos;t been mentioned yet, I should say I enjoyed &lt;b&gt;Denmark&lt;/b&gt;&apos;s solid victory - a very deserved win indeed. With top scorer Tomasson in front they may go a long way. We&apos;ll see.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jun 2002 04:51:37 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Summer</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/17727/Bon-voyage-mes-amis#288557</link>	
		<description>You can&apos;t feel too bad for France. They&apos;ll always have &apos;98.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jun 2002 05:00:02 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: bifter</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/17727/Bon-voyage-mes-amis#288562</link>	
		<description>...and 2000. The swines.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jun 2002 05:15:36 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: i_cola</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/17727/Bon-voyage-mes-amis#288563</link>	
		<description>And now the Germans, needing a draw, are down to 10 men! *heheh*</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jun 2002 05:19:56 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dopamine</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/17727/Bon-voyage-mes-amis#288570</link>	
		<description>France going out sure is good for England. As an Arsenal fan, however, I was sad to see some of my favorite players suck worse than a team of kitchen appliances.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jun 2002 05:52:52 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: adnanbwp</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/17727/Bon-voyage-mes-amis#288574</link>	
		<description>This has been by far, the best world cup tournament I have seen. Awesome open games, lots of goals and my favorite ingredient, upset results. wohooo. I am rooting for a all new semi-final stage. I mean all new teams. Italy will go down in the 16 stage and Brazil in quarter finals.. umm and oh yeah germany, we dont know if cameroon will let them advance.. muhuhuhahahahahahahah</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jun 2002 06:02:14 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mossy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/17727/Bon-voyage-mes-amis#288581</link>	
		<description>Oops, looks like Cameroon were feeling generous.. 16 yellow cards and 2 reds!!! Germany are gonna have no defenders for the next game.. Ref was appalling, talk about anal..

Yay for the boys in green!</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jun 2002 06:25:54 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: kev23f</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/17727/Bon-voyage-mes-amis#288586</link>	
		<description>ireland won, am chuffed out of my bin, as they say in dublin.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jun 2002 06:43:28 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: grum@work</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/17727/Bon-voyage-mes-amis#288631</link>	
		<description>Actually, I thought the ref in the Germany/Cameroon game called it pretty well.  I think maybe one or two of the yellow cards were suspect, but the rest of them I would have handed out as well (being a former referee).  Tackling a player from behind (without touching the ball) is a card-able offence.  Making a dangerous tackle from the side (getting more leg than ball) is a cardable offence.

If anyone should be appalled, it&apos;s the players for not realizing after the first two cards that they were playing dirty.  If they couldn&apos;t figure it out quick enough, it&apos;s their loss (and Germany is going to pay for it indeed).</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jun 2002 07:42:35 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Kafkaesque</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/17727/Bon-voyage-mes-amis#288670</link>	
		<description>grum, can&apos;t agree there. I thought maybe five of the cards were deserved. I mean, Germany had seven in the first half! Unreal.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jun 2002 08:45:26 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ParisParamus</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/17727/Bon-voyage-mes-amis#288684</link>	
		<description>Football:  the most overrated spectator sport.  Watching it just highlights the genius of baseball.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jun 2002 09:07:03 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Kafkaesque</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/17727/Bon-voyage-mes-amis#288696</link>	
		<description>Paris, why don&apos;t you put a chausette in it?

You don&apos;t catch me coming in to your political wank threads to bitch, do you?

Tosser.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jun 2002 09:23:00 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: argybarg</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/17727/Bon-voyage-mes-amis#288701</link>	
		<description>People who show up in threads to proclaim that they&apos;re not interested in the subject are, indeed, utter wankers.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jun 2002 09:29:40 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: adampsyche</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/17727/Bon-voyage-mes-amis#288728</link>	
		<description>The danes wax &lt;a href=&quot;http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&amp;u=/020611/170/1obg7.html&quot;&gt;sympathetic&lt;/a&gt;.

Watching baseball highlights the entertainment value of water evaporating.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jun 2002 10:28:08 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: i_cola</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/17727/Bon-voyage-mes-amis#288733</link>	
		<description>What Kafkaesque &amp;amp; argybarg said. Avec knobs on.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jun 2002 10:38:25 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: diddlegnome</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/17727/Bon-voyage-mes-amis#288796</link>	
		<description>Who is this &quot;Avec&quot; guy, and how does one &quot;knob on&quot;? Did he play for France, and now he has to go back to his job as a furniture assembler, or what? [/badjoke]

Yeah, the end of that Uruguay-Senegal game was amazing. Uruguay looked like a hockey team that was down a goal and had pulled its keeper. Tenacious, desperate and &quot;oh my god I can&apos;t believe I missed that header into an open net.&quot; Man, what a finish.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jun 2002 12:08:24 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: vbfg</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/17727/Bon-voyage-mes-amis#288863</link>	
		<description>Sack les bleues!</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jun 2002 14:12:52 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ParisParamus</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/17727/Bon-voyage-mes-amis#288875</link>	
		<description>Actually, I plan to watch to US v. Poland game, assuming there&apos;s cafeine to be had.  It&apos;s just that it will be more for a novelty of it than the excitement.  I don&apos;t get how a sport with almost no scoring in it can be satisfying to watch-- like 9 innings of great catches?  Like near shut outs?  Either of those would get boring in baseball pretty quick.  On the other hand, Soccer is great to play.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jun 2002 14:38:18 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: vbfg</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/17727/Bon-voyage-mes-amis#288890</link>	
		<description>&amp;gt; I don&apos;t get how a sport with almost no scoring in it can 
&amp;gt; be satisfying to watch

That&apos;s because you don&apos;t understand sport. Why does it have to be about winning when it can be about playing to your strengths? It&apos;s why you don&apos;t get cricket either. Heathen swine.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jun 2002 15:14:06 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ParisParamus</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/17727/Bon-voyage-mes-amis#288894</link>	
		<description>I am swine: it&apos;s obvious.  Nonetheless, Americans have had more of an opportunity to &quot;choose&quot; soccer than the rest of the world has to chose baseball and/or football.  So I think American rejection of soccer is more compelling than the rest of the world&apos;s rejection of said other sports.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jun 2002 15:17:41 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ParisParamus</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/17727/Bon-voyage-mes-amis#288895</link>	
		<description>Cricket: now that&apos;s queer!</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jun 2002 15:18:23 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: vbfg</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/17727/Bon-voyage-mes-amis#288902</link>	
		<description>To be honest I&apos;m not much of a soccer/football fan either. I like competitive sport but don&apos;t follow a team so the World and European Cups are pretty much the only times I get into it seriously. I&apos;m a Rugby League man myself. It&apos;s kinda like your football but with six tackles to go the length of the field instead of four to go ten yards. No lonely bloke who comes on, kicks and then goes to sit on his bench again either. 

Cricket is as queer as you make it. If you want to mince between the wickets that&apos;s entirely up to you.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jun 2002 15:27:13 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: muckster</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/17727/Bon-voyage-mes-amis#288909</link>	
		<description>Americans aren&apos;t getting enough soccer because the tv stations don&apos;t know how to get the desired amount of advertising in. I can&apos;t stand to watch football or baseball for that reason-- there&apos;s no flow, no groove. You end up watching more Chevy commercials than anything else. I suspect the ebb and flow of soccer, its rhythms, are hard-coded into my German DNA.

And Paris: when you watch soccer, you drink beer. Period. Even if it&apos;s 7:30am. With coffee, you&apos;ll never get it.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jun 2002 15:36:03 -0800</pubDate>
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