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	<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jun 2002 21:52:30 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Post number 18077</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/18077/</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.verisign.com/&quot;&gt;Verisign&lt;/a&gt; (aka &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.verisignoff.org/&quot;&gt;Satan&lt;/a&gt;) is set to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2002/06/15/technology/15NET.html&quot;&gt;relinquish the management of the .org domain&lt;/a&gt; pool this week, after agreeing to drop both the .org and .net registries to keep the .com one until 2007. &lt;a href=&quot;http://videolab.uoregon.edu/events/ICANN/icann_bucharest.html&quot;&gt;ICANN is meeting on it this week &lt;/a&gt; (webcast). The &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.icann.org/tlds/org/applications/&quot;&gt;list of all interested parties with competing applications is here&lt;/a&gt;, but personally I&apos;m pulling for Carl from &lt;a href=&quot;http://media.org/&quot;&gt;media.org&lt;/a&gt;&apos;s proposal for &lt;a href=&quot;http://not.invisible.net/MT/mt-comments.cgi?entry_id=55&quot;&gt;a public trust&lt;/a&gt;. For anyone that owns a .org domain, this is one to watch.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jun 2002 16:06:49 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>mathowie</dc:creator>		<category>verisign</category>		<category>.org</category>		<category>domains</category>		<category>topleveldomains</category>		<category>ICANN</category>		<category>internet</category>		<category>www</category>		<category>DNS</category>
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		<title>By: insomnyuk</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/18077/#296337</link>	
		<description>Good, at least I don&apos;t see Ultimate Search or X10 on that applicants list.  Imagine if every .org was turned into a redirect to a tasteless X10 ad?

I think the public trust idea is interesting.  Since the applicants are &lt;a href=&quot;http://trusted.resource.org/org-proposal.html&quot;&gt;both not-for-profit corporations&lt;/a&gt;, does this mean prices will be lower when registering .org domains?</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jun 2002 21:52:30 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: CarlMalamud</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/18077/#296359</link>	
		<description>Hi -

You can read the details of our bid at &lt;a href=&quot;http://trusted.resource.org/&quot;&gt;trusted.resource.org.&lt;/a&gt;

We looked at the &quot;market&quot; carefully, and our pricing policy is &quot;as low as the lowest.&quot;  We don&apos;t think .org wholesale fees should be lower than others as that doesn&apos;t get translated into retail savings.  E.g., if we charge $4 instead of $6, registrars won&apos;t lower your fee from $30 to $28.

We are projecting wholesale prices halving over 5 years, but we&apos;re ready to knock it down even further if our efforts are successful.  The big thing we&apos;re doing to lower prices is release all of our software as open source, which we think will encourage a different breed of registry operator, break down this artificial oligopoly, and take the mystique out of running a registry.

Becky and I would be more than happy to answer any questions people have.

Regards,

Carl</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jun 2002 23:14:30 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>CarlMalamud</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: geneablogy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/18077/#296417</link>	
		<description>Go Carl! Anyone responsible for &lt;a href=&quot;http://north.pole.org&quot;&gt;Santa&apos;s Official Web Site&lt;/a&gt; is okay by me. I can&apos;t think of anyone better suited to run .org, and as the owner of three such domains, I hope you win.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jun 2002 04:33:42 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>geneablogy</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: pracowity</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/18077/#296419</link>	
		<description>So it&apos;s Santa vs. Satan?</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jun 2002 04:46:33 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>pracowity</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: ColdChef</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/18077/#296450</link>	
		<description>Twenty bucks on the guy in red...oh, wait...</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jun 2002 06:47:23 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>ColdChef</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Zeldman</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/18077/#296633</link>	
		<description>Just wanted to say this is absolutely the best idea in years. Greedy, incompetent corporations already hold the keys to our cars (not that I&apos;m mentioning any &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.textism.com/article/494/&quot;&gt;names&lt;/a&gt;). The dot-org registry should absolutely be administered by dot-orgs. Especially folks who know what they&apos;re doing, like Rebecca and Carl. 

Given ICANN&apos;s history, they&apos;re quite likely to turn the job over to the next Verisign or similarly incompetent company. But ICANN will pay attention to community comments in favor of the public trust alternative. We do have a chance to be heard and to perhaps influence the outcome. &lt;a href=&quot;http://not.invisible.net/signals/bin/000055.shtml&quot;&gt;Post a comment&lt;/a&gt; and make a difference.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jun 2002 10:43:38 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Zeldman</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: iconomy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/18077/#296708</link>	
		<description>Great luck with this, Carl. &lt;a href=&quot;http://not.invisible.net/dot/&quot;&gt;Spread the dot&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jun 2002 12:46:02 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>iconomy</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Samizdata</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/18077/#307609</link>	
		<description>Thanks for the heads up mathowie.

I&apos;ve been too out of touch on this stuff lately.  I&apos;m in for a penny and the pound to boot.

Just added the dot to the main page...</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jul 2002 11:13:28 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Samizdata</dc:creator>
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