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	<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jul 2002 17:09:37 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Post number 18514</title>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.independent.co.uk/story.jsp?story=115957"&gt;Scrutiny on the Bounty.&lt;/a&gt; After investigating a single rape charge, a British prosecutor assigned to Pitcairn Island, the refuge of the &lt;i&gt;Bounty&lt;/i&gt; mutineers, began interviewing young girls. Now &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/asiapcf/auspac/07/17/nz.pitcairn.ap/index.html&quot;&gt;20 Pitcairn men may be charged&lt;/a&gt;; the island&apos;s entire population is just 44. (Most Pitcairners were removed to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nf/&quot;&gt;Norfolk Island&lt;/a&gt;, near Australia, in the 19th century; despite the precarious existence, some descendants returned to Pitcairn and have insisted on remaining.)  The primary defense is that the island was following Polynesian customs with an age of consent as young as 12; but many Pitcairners are indistinguishable from European expats, and many spend much of their lives in New Zealand or Australia for school or work. Until recently the island&apos;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.lareau.org/pitc.html&quot;&gt;inhabitants&lt;/a&gt; {official site} mainly worried about &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=78770&amp;contrassID=3&amp;subContrassID=0&amp;sbSubContrassID=0&quot;&gt;underpopulation&lt;/a&gt;  and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.salon.com/travel/feature/2000/01/26/pitcairn/print.html&quot;&gt;economic isolation&lt;/a&gt; despite touting a communal, agrarian lifestyle.

&quot;It&apos;s like a small English town,&quot; said a teacher who spent two years there. &quot;But you can&apos;t get away.&quot;</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:15:43 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>dhartung</dc:creator>		<category>bounty</category>		<category>pitcairn</category>		<category>norfolk</category>		<category>australia</category>		<category>rape</category>		<category>molestation</category>		<category>exploitation</category>		<category>sex</category>		<category>isolation</category>
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		<title>By: Zootoon</title>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.classicnote.com/ClassicNotes/Titles/lordflies/&quot;&gt;Lord of the Flies&lt;/a&gt; anyone? I remember visiting lots of small islands(30-40 people) off the coast of Ireland where there was no police and the bars opened whenever they wanted and I thought that was heaven. Now I&apos;m worrying.</description>
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		<title>By: crabwalk</title>
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		<description>Warning: self-link! I&apos;m the Dallas reporter mentioned in the first link. If anyone&apos;s interested, the stories I wrote after visiting the island in 1999 &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?Category=SRPITCAIRN&quot;&gt;are here&lt;/a&gt;. (The &quot;dwindling days&quot; story is the main piece; the rest are sidebars.)

It&apos;s a sad, sad story. One note, though: the &quot;20 men&quot; who may be charged includes current and former Pitcairners. There are many more Pitcairners who live in Wellington and Auckland, New Zealand, than who live on the island, because so many people have left in the last few decades. (The population peaked in the 1930s at around 230 people.)</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jul 2002 19:21:56 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: crabwalk</title>
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		<description>Warning: self-link! I&apos;m the Dallas reporter mentioned in the first link. If anyone&apos;s interested, the stories I wrote after visiting the island in 1999 &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?Category=SRPITCAIRN&quot;&gt;are here&lt;/a&gt;. (The &quot;dwindling days&quot; story is the main piece; the rest are sidebars.)

It&apos;s a sad, sad story. One note, though: the &quot;20 men&quot; who may be charged includes current and former Pitcairners. There are many more Pitcairners who live in Wellington and Auckland, New Zealand, than who live on the island, because so many people have left in the last few decades. (The population peaked in the 1930s at around 230 people.)</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jul 2002 21:23:46 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dhartung</title>
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		<description>Crabwalk: good point, I should have made that more clear. The number of current residents to be tried is unspecified other than leaving too few to man both longboats. Apparently some of the charges go back as much as 20 years, and the victims are themselves scattered.

I believe I read your stories; somebody like Jorn Barger blogged them back in the day. I remembered hearing the rape story, but most of this was new to me. And I&apos;ve had a longstanding interest in enclaves and exclaves, whose lives may be made easier by modern transport and communications advances, but whose raison d&apos;etre often disappears as well.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jul 2002 23:06:07 -0800</pubDate>
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