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Post number 18691

MattD — Thu, 25 Jul 2002 11:08:38 -0800

"Law and Order SVU" writers, sharpen your pencils! Prep school girls, bored with Dalton boys, are posing as Ivy Leaguers and aspiring actresses to lure unknowing 20-something investment bankers in Manhattan hotspots ...

By: UncleFes

UncleFes — Thu, 25 Jul 2002 11:16:10 -0800

Hmph. This will certainly lend additional validation to the vaunted "But she told me she was 19!" statutory defense. Good work, ladies! You're making life tons easier for old guys who cruise high school parking lots in Camaros.

By: delmoi

delmoi — Thu, 25 Jul 2002 11:42:18 -0800

Um, where exactly is the crime here? Not every guy was so turned on. "I have a younger sister, and to think of someone using her like that is disgusting," said "Ben," a recent college grad. "I'm not looking to be a baby-sitter; I'm looking for a friend." Oh yeh, these guys are definitely using the girls. I mean. Just because a guy thinks he's dating one of his peers doesn't make him any less conniving! If anyone's being hurt by this it's the men, How would you feel if you met some cool chick and after five dates she summarily broke up with you and you couldn't even find her again?

By: monju_bosatsu

monju_bosatsu — Thu, 25 Jul 2002 11:52:56 -0800

Um, where exactly is the crime here? You're kidding, right? This girls are below the statutory age of consent. In other words, a sexual relationship with these girls is, by definition, a crime. This particular crime may be a strict liability offense, so it doesn't matter if these guys knew what was going on or not. They're guilty. If anyone's being hurt by this it's the men... Errr, no. While the men are certainly not intentionally victimizing these girls, they are definitely complicit in a social organization that pushes these girls towards adulthood faster and faster each year. Sure, in any given situation, the guy can always claim that he didn't know, but when there are lots of these girls, don't we have to stop and ask ourselves why it's happening in the first place?

By: vincentmeanie

vincentmeanie — Thu, 25 Jul 2002 11:56:05 -0800

I have hit this one twice, I was 21 they were 15 and 17 respectively, both were dropped as soon as the age became known. When a younger girl decides to adopt an adult demeanor and pick up a older man all rules are off. for a long time after each one I felt like I needed to card girls I met. Or in the least take them on dates to places that were notorious for spotting fake ID. Its a tough world for the guys out there, if they decide to pursue a relationship and the girl is underage, they can get in a lot of trouble before they realize the truth. I lucked out later with a girl I met, I thought she was 22, maybe..... because she looked 18, turns out she was 30. what are you gonna do?

By: HTuttle

HTuttle — Thu, 25 Jul 2002 11:58:44 -0800

Alexis scrambled home and went on the Web. She spent the next 24 hours researching the U. Penn. campus, her major, the names of professors and other campus activities. She called a friend's older brother who went to Penn, too, and he gave her some more inside dope: the names of dorm R.A.'s and the local drug store. This girl needs to be doing time in jail!

By: thomcatspike

thomcatspike — Thu, 25 Jul 2002 12:07:29 -0800

With this article, a thought went through my head about all this. First it's impolite to ask a woman her "age." On that line, I figured the "girls" I've dated, tell me they're older as they seem to want their future now, yet miss out on today. Then the "women" I've dated tell me they're younger, as it seems by trying to re-live the past, also by staying in it. Yet it's today, ladies........ So what to do as a "man"? Check out were they live, tells everything about them. Plus you will know if they're married with kids, or just one, at any age. I try to live to day, it's hard enough. P.S. ID's, common on for age!, "crows feet" work better.

By: bargle

bargle — Thu, 25 Jul 2002 12:13:13 -0800

If anyone's being hurt by this it's the men, How would you feel if you met some cool chick and after five dates she summarily broke up with you and you couldn't even find her again? That's why it is wise to follow your dates home and stalk them for a while, you need to really get to know a person before you let them get very close.

By: spilon

spilon — Thu, 25 Jul 2002 12:16:07 -0800

"That's what I like about these high school girls. I keep getting older, they stay the same age."

By: thomcatspike

thomcatspike — Thu, 25 Jul 2002 12:21:01 -0800

Also, heard this tagline from a new movie, "tadpoling", older woman picking adolescent boyz at the mall. Gee no wonder older woman have big SUV's.........

By: ODiV

ODiV — Thu, 25 Jul 2002 12:29:58 -0800

You're kidding, right? This girls are below the statutory age of consent. In other words, a sexual relationship with these girls is, by definition, a crime. Who said anything about sex?

By: lbergstr

lbergstr — Thu, 25 Jul 2002 13:11:28 -0800

ODiV: pre-marital sex. It's a decadent urban thing. Kidding aside, there are hints in the article: "Lauren would spend the rest of the day with her boyfriend. Fortunately, as an only child with a personal cabin, there was always plenty of privacy."

By: ODiV

ODiV — Thu, 25 Jul 2002 13:31:20 -0800

I was mostly kidding... There's obviously sex going on. It's interesting that one of the rules that girl set for herself was no more than 5 dates and always in public places. That must be some interesting sex. re: 'pre-marital sex' - not so long ago I told my girlfriend (who's fairly religious) that I had found a loophole in the whole "pre-marital sex is bad" thing. If we don't get married, it's not pre-marital!!! No sin! She wasn't too pleased. :( I also get her to pick up the condoms because I was raised Catholic. Gotta look out for my well being in the afterlife you know.

By: raaka

raaka — Thu, 25 Jul 2002 13:49:17 -0800

Does anybody think this story is a little, I don't know, Stephen Glass?

By: jonmc

jonmc — Thu, 25 Jul 2002 15:00:20 -0800

OK, what does this story tell us? That the hot high school chicks that ignore ordinary guys dig older dudes. This is not news. Now that I'm over thirty, younger girls flirt with me all the time. I feel like, one, asking them where they were when I was 16 and two, telling them to go flirt with the dorky guy in their science class instead so they can break this vicious cycle.

By: MattD

MattD — Thu, 25 Jul 2002 16:21:49 -0800

Raaka -- good point. I had a bit of Stephen Glass deja vu myself ... wonder what he's up to these days?

By: WolfDaddy

WolfDaddy — Thu, 25 Jul 2002 17:17:45 -0800

Errr, no. While the men are certainly not intentionally victimizing these girls, they are definitely complicit in a social organization that pushes these girls towards adulthood faster and faster each year. And women are absolved of their complicity in this social organization because ... ? Sure, in any given situation, the guy can always claim that he didn't know, but when there are lots of these girls, don't we have to stop and ask ourselves why it's happening in the first place? Because girls that age mature faster (and in this case seem to have remarkably little parental supervision) than boys that age would be my guess as to why it's happening.

By: lotsofno

lotsofno — Thu, 25 Jul 2002 21:59:33 -0800

Because girls that age mature faster or at least think they do... there's nothing mature about some of the actions in this article.

By: dg

dg — Fri, 26 Jul 2002 00:14:45 -0800

... (and in this case seem to have remarkably little parental supervision) ... I was wondering where the hell the parents of these girls are while all this is going on. Even the cruise boat situation - any parent with half an inkling of what is on the mind of teenagers of either sex would be on high alert in such a situation. ... a sexual relationship with these girls is, by definition, a crime ... Are men supposed to ask for ID before becoming involved with any female? How are they supposed to check for fake ID? I know that the laws governing consent are there for the protection of the vulnerable, but it hardly seems fair when the "vulnerable" are dishonestly preying on the unsuspecting.

By: schlaager

schlaager — Fri, 26 Jul 2002 07:18:43 -0800

If anyone's being hurt by this it's the men... Agreed. I take the position where if you're unsure, you ask her age. College freshmen and sophomores are a lot like high school girls in the way they act.

By: bingo

bingo — Fri, 26 Jul 2002 10:33:03 -0800

It's not clear to me from the article what these girls want. Is it just the companionship and the validation? It doesn't seem like they're trying to create scenarios that are going to get them married...