Deliver this creature to a race of enemy sorcerers
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Although honestly I would have been fine with a Star Wars story that didn't deal with Jedi at all, and that was just set in that universe without getting all tangled up in the giant mythology. It's a setting that has plenty to be mined without brushing up against the Giant Big Story from the originating fable.
posted by hippybear at 9:18 PM on September 19, 2020 [13 favorites]
posted by hippybear at 9:18 PM on September 19, 2020 [13 favorites]
It's great that babysitters are getting respect.
posted by dances_with_sneetches at 9:23 PM on September 19, 2020 [17 favorites]
posted by dances_with_sneetches at 9:23 PM on September 19, 2020 [17 favorites]
It really is Lone Wolf and Cub: Star Wars Edition. Not complaining.
posted by wabbittwax at 9:42 PM on September 19, 2020 [13 favorites]
posted by wabbittwax at 9:42 PM on September 19, 2020 [13 favorites]
Looks good, except the CGI looks really bad in some places or my brain is fried from working all night. Specifically the ship flying over the planet or moon from 0:00-0:20, and again ~1:07 with the ships. Something about the lighting off the vessels or the way my monitor is calibrated. I rewatched it and then this cinematic trailer for Hunted happened to auto-play, the latter looked much more authentic. Anyone else noticing this?
posted by geoff. at 9:52 PM on September 19, 2020
posted by geoff. at 9:52 PM on September 19, 2020
I am incredibly disappointed to read that they’re going to be dragging Clone Wars characters into it. One of the best things about this show is that it stood alone, without trying to shoehorn or be shoehorned into other works in the Star Wars universe. I’d feel the same way even if it was characters or works I liked. I loved the first season so much, but I’m not certain at all if I’ll watch the second.
posted by The Underpants Monster at 9:58 PM on September 19, 2020 [3 favorites]
posted by The Underpants Monster at 9:58 PM on September 19, 2020 [3 favorites]
I find the mainline Star Wars fairly tedious but I actually really enjoyed The Mandalorian. Hopefully, in trying to expand it, they don't make it more Star Wars-y and less interesting as a result.
posted by Merus at 10:15 PM on September 19, 2020 [3 favorites]
posted by Merus at 10:15 PM on September 19, 2020 [3 favorites]
One of the showrunners on this was deeply involved in both Clone Wars and Rebels. If Dave Filoni wants to tell more stories with those characters, sign me up. If they weave in and tie off a few loose threads, I trust they’ll do so skillfully.
(Keeping things vague to avoid spoilers, but there’s a time gap/jump towards the end of Rebels which I felt made for a somewhat unsatisfying conclusion. I believe the time that was skipped lines up with Mando’s story.)
posted by FallibleHuman at 2:26 AM on September 20, 2020 [6 favorites]
(Keeping things vague to avoid spoilers, but there’s a time gap/jump towards the end of Rebels which I felt made for a somewhat unsatisfying conclusion. I believe the time that was skipped lines up with Mando’s story.)
posted by FallibleHuman at 2:26 AM on September 20, 2020 [6 favorites]
Looking good, but needs more Gina Carano.
posted by greenhornet at 3:04 AM on September 20, 2020 [5 favorites]
posted by greenhornet at 3:04 AM on September 20, 2020 [5 favorites]
It's great that babysitters are getting respect.
posted by dances_with_sneetches at 12:23 AM on September 20 [3 favorites +] [!]
Don't fuck with the babysitter!
posted by Mister Moofoo at 3:43 AM on September 20, 2020 [1 favorite]
posted by dances_with_sneetches at 12:23 AM on September 20 [3 favorites +] [!]
Don't fuck with the babysitter!
posted by Mister Moofoo at 3:43 AM on September 20, 2020 [1 favorite]
Featuring brief appearances by my age-inappropriate crushes CARL WEATHERS and Sasha Banks.
posted by Parasite Unseen at 4:29 AM on September 20, 2020
posted by Parasite Unseen at 4:29 AM on September 20, 2020
> It really is Lone Wolf and Frog: Star Wars Edition.
Fixed that for you.
posted by The Master and Margarita Mix at 5:06 AM on September 20, 2020 [1 favorite]
Fixed that for you.
posted by The Master and Margarita Mix at 5:06 AM on September 20, 2020 [1 favorite]
Seeing a scene very obviously set at Zabriskie Point in Death Valley really took me out of the story. Yeah, it's hella cool scenery, but it's like seeing the Eiffel Tower in a town named "K2Kl4%gTH" on planet "&a*F91B5'3@" really breaks suspension of disbelief.
posted by notsnot at 5:12 AM on September 20, 2020 [2 favorites]
posted by notsnot at 5:12 AM on September 20, 2020 [2 favorites]
This thread now makes me realize that The Mandalorian is really just the long awaited sequel to 1987's Adventures in Babysitting.
posted by NotMyselfRightNow at 5:15 AM on September 20, 2020 [3 favorites]
posted by NotMyselfRightNow at 5:15 AM on September 20, 2020 [3 favorites]
Seeing a scene very obviously set at Zabriskie Point in Death Valley really took me out of the story. Yeah, it's hella cool scenery, but it's like seeing the Eiffel Tower in a town named "K2Kl4%gTH" on planet "&a*F91B5'3@" really breaks suspension of disbelief.
If you had said “Monument Valley”, maybe. I had to google Zabriskie Point, and that just looks like somewhere in the US Southwest to me.
Baby closing his hoverpram lid when he saw Whistling Birds was a chuckle. My son loved it.
posted by Fleebnork at 5:44 AM on September 20, 2020 [2 favorites]
If you had said “Monument Valley”, maybe. I had to google Zabriskie Point, and that just looks like somewhere in the US Southwest to me.
Baby closing his hoverpram lid when he saw Whistling Birds was a chuckle. My son loved it.
posted by Fleebnork at 5:44 AM on September 20, 2020 [2 favorites]
Looking good, but needs more Gina Carano.
We don't need more TERFs in showbiz. We can do better.
posted by Faint of Butt at 6:25 AM on September 20, 2020 [16 favorites]
We don't need more TERFs in showbiz. We can do better.
posted by Faint of Butt at 6:25 AM on September 20, 2020 [16 favorites]
The Mandalorian: Adventures in Babysitting looks great, but where's Elizabeth Shue?
posted by nubs at 7:41 AM on September 20, 2020
posted by nubs at 7:41 AM on September 20, 2020
Should be named "The Bounty Hunter and the Baby."
posted by jenfullmoon at 8:13 AM on September 20, 2020
posted by jenfullmoon at 8:13 AM on September 20, 2020
I started watching the show just to see Baby Yoda and ended up really liking it. The accompanying making-of docuseries is great, too. Unlike a lot of the people currently producing Star Trek, who *say* they love the franchise but then do terrible things with it, Filoni and Favreau are really all about the SW universe.
posted by briank at 9:41 AM on September 20, 2020
posted by briank at 9:41 AM on September 20, 2020
Totally on board for more plot-light, mythology-light space adventures.
Surely I'm not the only person who keeps waiting for the "...step inside" every time somebody on the show says "this is the way?"
posted by whir at 9:48 AM on September 20, 2020 [2 favorites]
Surely I'm not the only person who keeps waiting for the "...step inside" every time somebody on the show says "this is the way?"
posted by whir at 9:48 AM on September 20, 2020 [2 favorites]
We don't need more TERFs in showbiz. We can do better.
I don't want to derail the thread, I'll just say, the link you posted offers a slightly slanted view of the whole affair, and even then I don't think it actually supports the idea that Gina Carano is a TERF, just that she is a person who isn't well-informed about Covid-19 and reacts poorly to Twitter pile-ons. Unfortunately she seems to have the kind of fighty personality (maybe not surprising from a former professional fighter) that I could easily see being pushed further right by the pile-ons, and I hope that doesn't happen.
I also hope this season doesn't get too caught up in the greater Star Wars mythos stuff, but I gotta be honest, I'd really like an explanation of the roots of the mask-on-all-the-time thing. I saw some speculation that Sasha Banks could be playing Sabine Wren, which despite my reservations about this all getting too tangled up with existing characters, I admit could be very cool, but if they do that I'm really gonna need an explanation for why it's okay for her not to wear a helmet.
posted by mstokes650 at 11:15 AM on September 20, 2020 [4 favorites]
I don't want to derail the thread, I'll just say, the link you posted offers a slightly slanted view of the whole affair, and even then I don't think it actually supports the idea that Gina Carano is a TERF, just that she is a person who isn't well-informed about Covid-19 and reacts poorly to Twitter pile-ons. Unfortunately she seems to have the kind of fighty personality (maybe not surprising from a former professional fighter) that I could easily see being pushed further right by the pile-ons, and I hope that doesn't happen.
I also hope this season doesn't get too caught up in the greater Star Wars mythos stuff, but I gotta be honest, I'd really like an explanation of the roots of the mask-on-all-the-time thing. I saw some speculation that Sasha Banks could be playing Sabine Wren, which despite my reservations about this all getting too tangled up with existing characters, I admit could be very cool, but if they do that I'm really gonna need an explanation for why it's okay for her not to wear a helmet.
posted by mstokes650 at 11:15 AM on September 20, 2020 [4 favorites]
BrianK - I'd make your point in a more workmanlike way.
It's not important that you love the franchise - it's hard to love something that you do 80 hours a week 50 weeks a year as a show-runner or a primary creative on a feature.
It's important that you understand why the audience loves it. It's wonderful that Filoni and Favreau do understand it, and hopefully they will be firmly control in the next iteration of Star Wars features as well as television, versus the Kathleen Kennedy crew who can't understand the fans and J.J. Abrams who could understand the fans if he didn't think that caring about such nerds' opinions was beneath him.
Mandalorian Season One was definitely hit or miss dramatically, but you see that understanding of why people love Star Wars really at play in the work, and not just in intention or inspiration.
posted by MattD at 11:25 AM on September 20, 2020
It's not important that you love the franchise - it's hard to love something that you do 80 hours a week 50 weeks a year as a show-runner or a primary creative on a feature.
It's important that you understand why the audience loves it. It's wonderful that Filoni and Favreau do understand it, and hopefully they will be firmly control in the next iteration of Star Wars features as well as television, versus the Kathleen Kennedy crew who can't understand the fans and J.J. Abrams who could understand the fans if he didn't think that caring about such nerds' opinions was beneath him.
Mandalorian Season One was definitely hit or miss dramatically, but you see that understanding of why people love Star Wars really at play in the work, and not just in intention or inspiration.
posted by MattD at 11:25 AM on September 20, 2020
God damn it baby Yoda is still cute as fuck.
posted by bq at 11:52 AM on September 20, 2020 [5 favorites]
posted by bq at 11:52 AM on September 20, 2020 [5 favorites]
but where's Elizabeth Shue?
Who do you think Baby Yoda grows up to be?
posted by NotMyselfRightNow at 12:01 PM on September 20, 2020
Who do you think Baby Yoda grows up to be?
posted by NotMyselfRightNow at 12:01 PM on September 20, 2020
Who do you think Baby Yoda grows up to be?
That explains some things.
posted by nubs at 12:27 PM on September 20, 2020
That explains some things.
posted by nubs at 12:27 PM on September 20, 2020
Elizabeth Shue is over on Amazon Prime Video’s The Boys, aka Adventures in Babysitting a Psychotic Super-Powered Mass Murderer
posted by ejs at 3:01 PM on September 20, 2020 [3 favorites]
posted by ejs at 3:01 PM on September 20, 2020 [3 favorites]
The accompanying making-of docuseries is great, too.
It is -- the round-table format worked very well -- but it could have several episodes shorter if they'd cut out all of (a) their collective fawning over George Lucas and (b) Jon Favreau endlessly reiterating his direction of the Jungle Book and Lion King remakes.
(And yes there's a technological through-line that the docuseries addresses -- the episode on the Volume is amazing -- and yes they're all Disney properties so they're not going to bad-mouth them. But damn, there was a whiff of rotting elephant over that table every time someone didn't say "but those movies really weren't great, Jon.")
posted by We had a deal, Kyle at 8:47 PM on September 20, 2020
It is -- the round-table format worked very well -- but it could have several episodes shorter if they'd cut out all of (a) their collective fawning over George Lucas and (b) Jon Favreau endlessly reiterating his direction of the Jungle Book and Lion King remakes.
(And yes there's a technological through-line that the docuseries addresses -- the episode on the Volume is amazing -- and yes they're all Disney properties so they're not going to bad-mouth them. But damn, there was a whiff of rotting elephant over that table every time someone didn't say "but those movies really weren't great, Jon.")
posted by We had a deal, Kyle at 8:47 PM on September 20, 2020
One of the showrunners on this was deeply involved in both Clone Wars and Rebels. If Dave Filoni wants to tell more stories with those characters, sign me up. If they weave in and tie off a few loose threads, I trust they’ll do so skillfully.
(Keeping things vague to avoid spoilers, but there’s a time gap/jump towards the end of Rebels which I felt made for a somewhat unsatisfying conclusion. I believe the time that was skipped lines up with Mando’s story.)
My opinion is that if they didn’t finish some other series satisfactorily, then that’s on them and that other series, and it’s not this series’s job to fix what they got wrong in another one.
posted by The Underpants Monster at 9:41 PM on September 20, 2020 [1 favorite]
(Keeping things vague to avoid spoilers, but there’s a time gap/jump towards the end of Rebels which I felt made for a somewhat unsatisfying conclusion. I believe the time that was skipped lines up with Mando’s story.)
My opinion is that if they didn’t finish some other series satisfactorily, then that’s on them and that other series, and it’s not this series’s job to fix what they got wrong in another one.
posted by The Underpants Monster at 9:41 PM on September 20, 2020 [1 favorite]
(b) Jon Favreau endlessly reiterating his direction of the Jungle Book and Lion King remakes.
IDK about the Lion King remake, but new The Jungle Book was incredible.
posted by mikelieman at 10:11 PM on September 20, 2020
IDK about the Lion King remake, but new The Jungle Book was incredible.
posted by mikelieman at 10:11 PM on September 20, 2020
The Mandalorian, as a show, didn't click for me - I enjoyed the prison ship episode, but I didn't get round to watching the end of the season - but the videos about the wrap-around mega-screen they used to film Mandalorian are super interesting.
posted by The River Ivel at 2:48 AM on September 21, 2020
posted by The River Ivel at 2:48 AM on September 21, 2020
Mister Moofoo: "Don't fuck with the babysitter!"
Ironically, Disney+ edited that line out because it was too edgy for their family-friendly network.
I am excited for the next season of "The Baby Yoda Show (costarring some guy in a helmet)" but truly, TRULY wish Disney would stop sanitizing the stuff they put on their streaming channel. Or at least offer two choices for older titles - "Watch the original version (may contain inappropriate language)" and "Watch family-friendly version". Not everyone who signs up for Disney+ has kids, and even those of us who DO have kids can decide for ourselves whether hearing an F-bomb will instantly turn our children into foul-mouthed hooligans.
I'd love to watch Adventures in Babysitting with my son. We love 80's movies. But I don't think I can let him watch the version on Disney+ just knowing that they castrated the best line in the film. Of course, I am also the parent who spent WAY too much time hunting down the Despecialized versions of the Star Wars trilogy, because I am not raising my child on revisionist filmmaking. Greedo got gunned down in cold blood, Cloud City was not full of windows, and Anakin's Force ghost was an old man. (For that matter, I also won't let him watch the version of E.T. where the government guys carry radios instead of guns, and when I judge that he's old enough to watch Mad Max he's for damn sure not seeing the version dubbed in US English!)
posted by caution live frogs at 7:09 AM on September 21, 2020 [2 favorites]
Ironically, Disney+ edited that line out because it was too edgy for their family-friendly network.
I am excited for the next season of "The Baby Yoda Show (costarring some guy in a helmet)" but truly, TRULY wish Disney would stop sanitizing the stuff they put on their streaming channel. Or at least offer two choices for older titles - "Watch the original version (may contain inappropriate language)" and "Watch family-friendly version". Not everyone who signs up for Disney+ has kids, and even those of us who DO have kids can decide for ourselves whether hearing an F-bomb will instantly turn our children into foul-mouthed hooligans.
I'd love to watch Adventures in Babysitting with my son. We love 80's movies. But I don't think I can let him watch the version on Disney+ just knowing that they castrated the best line in the film. Of course, I am also the parent who spent WAY too much time hunting down the Despecialized versions of the Star Wars trilogy, because I am not raising my child on revisionist filmmaking. Greedo got gunned down in cold blood, Cloud City was not full of windows, and Anakin's Force ghost was an old man. (For that matter, I also won't let him watch the version of E.T. where the government guys carry radios instead of guns, and when I judge that he's old enough to watch Mad Max he's for damn sure not seeing the version dubbed in US English!)
posted by caution live frogs at 7:09 AM on September 21, 2020 [2 favorites]
but if they do that I'm really gonna need an explanation for why it's okay for her not to wear a helmet.
I think I would reverse this: I want Sabine to explain to Din Djarin that he's a member of a weirdass little cult, and all the rest of the Mandalorians take off their helmets all the damn time.
Some of the backstory people have fleshed out on Djarin is that he got picked up not by ordinary Mandalorians (is there such a thing?) but by members of DeathWatch, who were political/nationalistic extremists. So I suspect his understanding of Mandalorian culture is analogous to that of a kid who grew up in Taliban or Taliban-adjacent communities, and learned a particularly strict interpretation of cultural rules.
Anyway, I would love to see Sabine on this, but the trailer editing shows us the woman in the cloak around the same time he mentions the evil sorcerers, and she disappears mysteriously. Which, as great as Sabine is, is not Sabine: she is not Jedi and has no Force powers. So my theory is that's another (as yet unknown) Jedi or maybe a dark Force user (perhaps one of the Inquisitors who survived the fall of the Empire).
posted by suelac at 1:59 PM on September 21, 2020 [4 favorites]
I think I would reverse this: I want Sabine to explain to Din Djarin that he's a member of a weirdass little cult, and all the rest of the Mandalorians take off their helmets all the damn time.
Some of the backstory people have fleshed out on Djarin is that he got picked up not by ordinary Mandalorians (is there such a thing?) but by members of DeathWatch, who were political/nationalistic extremists. So I suspect his understanding of Mandalorian culture is analogous to that of a kid who grew up in Taliban or Taliban-adjacent communities, and learned a particularly strict interpretation of cultural rules.
Anyway, I would love to see Sabine on this, but the trailer editing shows us the woman in the cloak around the same time he mentions the evil sorcerers, and she disappears mysteriously. Which, as great as Sabine is, is not Sabine: she is not Jedi and has no Force powers. So my theory is that's another (as yet unknown) Jedi or maybe a dark Force user (perhaps one of the Inquisitors who survived the fall of the Empire).
posted by suelac at 1:59 PM on September 21, 2020 [4 favorites]
So just for fun, what does everyone think of this crazy rumor?
posted by jenfullmoon at 5:07 PM on September 21, 2020
posted by jenfullmoon at 5:07 PM on September 21, 2020
In the words of Werner Herzog “use the puppet you cowards!”
posted by misterpatrick at 5:46 PM on September 21, 2020 [1 favorite]
posted by misterpatrick at 5:46 PM on September 21, 2020 [1 favorite]
The good news, caution live frogs, is the proper version of “Adventures in Babysitting” is available on HBO Max (and possibly hulu if you’re paying for HBO on there).
Or it was six months ago when I watched it.
posted by Mister Moofoo at 8:22 PM on September 21, 2020
Or it was six months ago when I watched it.
posted by Mister Moofoo at 8:22 PM on September 21, 2020
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