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	<title>Comments on: Comments on 18996</title>
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	<pubDate>Wed, 07 Aug 2002 18:56:44 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Post number 18996</title>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.adbusters.org/home/"&gt;Adbusters TV launched.&lt;/a&gt; Everyone&apos;s favourite &lt;a href=&quot;http://adbusters.org/information/network/&quot;&gt;culture jammers&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://adbusters.org/uncommercials/&quot;&gt;uncommercialists&lt;/a&gt; are looking for your video contributions. 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&quot;The next time you and your friends organize a street party, liberate a billboard, shoot an indy documentary, or throw a
pie into the ugly face of authority, we want people worldwide to catch it the next day&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There is an inaugural &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.adbusters.org/abtv/contest&quot;&gt;contest&lt;/a&gt; to get the content flowing. They are looking for video, audio, and animation in three categories: Direct Action
(jams, spoofs, pranks, protests); Epiphanies (personal works); and Mini-Documentaries.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Aug 2002 17:07:24 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>boost ventilator</dc:creator>		<category>adbusters</category>		<category>culturejamming</category>		<category>uncommercials</category>		<category>contest</category>		<category>tv</category>
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		<title>By: owillis</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/18996/#317426</link>	
		<description>Finally! An outlet for the humorless &quot;we fear advertising&quot; types with a spare copy of After Effects.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Aug 2002 18:56:44 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: evanizer</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/18996/#317439</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;The next time you and your friends organize a street party, liberate a billboard, shoot an indy documentary, or throw a pie into the ugly face of authority, we want people worldwide to catch it the next day&lt;/i&gt;

Let&apos;s run that through the patented &quot;Rebel Without A Clue&quot; translation system:

&lt;i&gt;The next time you and your friends organize a street party [disturb the peace], liberate a billboard [deface property], shoot an indy documentary [sorry, no dictionary results found for &apos;indy documentary&apos;], or throw a pie into the ugly face of authority [assault someone], we want people worldwide to catch it [imitate and propagate this empty meme] the next day.&lt;/i&gt;

I fear the authority of these humorless puritans more than I fear even Ronald McDonald. And believe me, I fear Ronald McDonald.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Aug 2002 19:20:40 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>evanizer</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: CrunchyFrog</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/18996/#317444</link>	
		<description>Oh, Adbusters.  I&apos;ve heard of them.  They wrote an article called 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://adbusters.org/magazine/34/jail.html&quot;&gt;Watch or Go to Jail.&lt;/a&gt; It&apos;s about two kids from Perrysburg, Ohio whose mother was religiously opposed to watching television.  The kids walked out of the classroom when a TV was turned on, and were given a one day suspension in Juvie Hall for truancy.  Adbusters sided with the kids and their mother, unaware (or not caring) that they were siding &lt;i&gt;against&lt;/i&gt; their father who insisted that they be in class with the other kids and &lt;a href=&quot;http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&amp;lr=&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;oe=UTF-8&amp;safe=off&amp;selm=20001018194440.09967.00000669%40ng-cg1.aol.com&quot;&gt;had a court order&lt;/a&gt; giving him the authority to make the decision.

Adbusters tried to spin this as a battle of &quot;Evil Media versus poor little kids.&quot;  In reality, it is a battle of &quot;mother versus father.&quot;  The kids were forced to watch TV not becuase of school policy, but because of their father.  In my opinion, this is primarily a custody battle, and they shouldn&apos;t have gotten involved in it.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Aug 2002 19:30:25 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>CrunchyFrog</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: fuzz</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/18996/#317447</link>	
		<description>Nice to see that their marketing department made sure that the branding strategy included the contest, glossy magazine, merchandising opportunities for additional revenue streams, interactive online community, synergistic tie-ins with strategic partners, and catchy slogans with lots of happy exclamation points!!!!

It&apos;s a good thing we have uncommercialists to stop us from being treated like consumers!!!!</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Aug 2002 19:42:19 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>fuzz</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: insomnyuk</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/18996/#317479</link>	
		<description>Apparently the irony is completely lost on them fuzz, as they keep doing what they&apos;re doing.

Or maybe they know its ironic, and cynically do it for the attention.  I know I would.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Aug 2002 20:43:10 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: fuzz</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/18996/#317496</link>	
		<description>The sincerely cynical thing to do is build a multibillion dollar business out of culture jamming. I&apos;m not sure if we should take the piss out of them for being vacuously commercialized rebels or lousy entrepreneurs.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Aug 2002 21:15:06 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>fuzz</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: fuzz</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/18996/#317497</link>	
		<description>See, now they&apos;ve got me using phrases like &quot;sincerely cynical&quot;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Aug 2002 21:16:02 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>fuzz</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: monkeymike</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/18996/#317751</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;The sincerely cynical thing to do is build a multibillion dollar business out of culture jamming.&lt;/i&gt;

Having been in their offices, I can safely say they&apos;re not a multibillion dollar business. How they&apos;ve managed to publish a glossy full color magazine for many years without advertising, I have no idea. 

All that being said, their message is getting a little tired.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Aug 2002 09:10:42 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>monkeymike</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Leonard</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/18996/#317754</link>	
		<description>I just hope this is the excuse someone needs to finally litigate those bozos out of existence. Why don&apos;t they make fun of Scientology or something, try fighting with somebody else who actually plays dirty.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Aug 2002 09:15:39 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Leonard</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Down10</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/18996/#318990</link>	
		<description>I once wrote a complaint letter to &lt;i&gt;Adbusters&lt;/i&gt;, and they published it, but they cut out the part containing the actual complaint.

&apos;Nuff said.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Aug 2002 02:23:33 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Down10</dc:creator>
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