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	<pubDate>Sat, 10 Aug 2002 05:42:03 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Post number 19056</title>
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		<description>The Passport: the next step in its evolution may include  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99992649&quot; title=&quot;New Scientist article&quot;&gt;invisible information&lt;/a&gt; encoded into your mug shot, but if you are wondering where it all began, the Canadian &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dfait-maeci.gc.ca/passport/history_e.asp&quot; title=&quot;passport history&quot;&gt;passport office&lt;/a&gt; identifies one Nehemiah of Persia, ca. 450 BC, as candidate for very first passport holder. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fff.org/freedom/0500h.asp&quot; title=&quot;Passports = Surveillence?&quot;&gt;Some&lt;/a&gt; think that it was all downhill from there. Regardless, there might be very good &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.escapeartist.com/efam2/legal_passports.htm&quot; title=&quot;Escape Artist site for expats discusses second passports&quot;&gt;reasons&lt;/a&gt; for getting more than one passport, which you can do &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.escapeartist.com/passports/passports.htm&quot; title=&quot;round-up of legal options and related info&quot;&gt;legally&lt;/a&gt;, or &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fakeidman.org&quot; title=&quot;Fake ID offers reviewed&quot;&gt;less&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.kotsanes.gr/kotscentre/How_to/Apates/Fake_Passport/fake_passport.html&quot; title=&quot;how they do it in Greece&quot;&gt;so&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/media/image/1917.htm&quot; title=&quot;photo and brief explanation&quot;&gt;Lenin&lt;/a&gt; had a fake passport. So did &lt;a href=&quot;http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1808286.stm&quot; title=&quot;BBC article on British WWII special operations covert shenanigans&quot;&gt;Hitler&lt;/a&gt;, though he didn&apos;t know it. (More inside.)</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Aug 2002 05:41:03 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>taz</dc:creator>		<category>passport</category>		<category>passports</category>		<category>history</category>		<category>Lenin</category>		<category>Hitler</category>
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		<title>By: taz</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/19056/#319016</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.republic-of-lomar.org/information/index.htm&quot; title=&quot;about the Republic of Lomar&quot;&gt;The Republic of Lomar&lt;/a&gt; describes itself as a &quot;quasi-state&quot; that offers citizenship and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.republic-of-lomar.org/information/passports.htm&quot; title=&quot;ROL passport info&quot;&gt;passports&lt;/a&gt; to refugees and others, in a humanitarian effort meant to be similar to the &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.xs4all.nl/~pal/inventio.htm&quot; title=&quot;brief description of ? Nansen&apos;s post-WWI passport effort&quot;&gt;Nansen Passport&lt;/a&gt;&quot; project that provided passage documents for war prisoners and refugees after WWI. If you are interested in seeing what the passports of other countries look like, &lt;a href=&quot;http://passports.slawek.com&quot; title=&quot;an extensive passport photo collection&quot;&gt;this guy&lt;/a&gt; has images of most them, including the &lt;a href=&quot;http://old.smh.com.au/news/0004/03/features/features2.html&quot; title=&quot;article on illegal activities involving &apos;Sealand&apos; passports&quot;&gt;spurious&lt;/a&gt; and the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.embassyofheaven.org/passport.htm&quot; title=&quot;passports available for the Kingdom of Heaven&quot;&gt;curious&lt;/a&gt;. Even &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.defra.gov.uk/animalh/tracing/passport/pport-index.htm&quot; title=&quot;about U.K. cattle passports&quot;&gt;bovines&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://propreplicas.tripod.com/pp-passport.htm&quot; title=&quot;Indiana Jones passports on offer&quot;&gt;fictional characters&lt;/a&gt; and the &lt;a href=&quot;http://digilander.libero.it/cglgiramondo/pastoria_us.htm&quot; title=&quot;images of vintage French passports&quot;&gt;French&lt;/a&gt; can get passports, so start &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.espionage-store.com/passport.html&quot; title=&quot;caveat emptor!&quot;&gt;your&lt;/a&gt; collection today!</description>
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		<title>By: filmgoerjuan</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/19056/#319052</link>	
		<description>I&apos;ve always enjoyed getting a new passport, though I feel cheated if I haven&apos;t filled the old one with visas, stamps, etc.; however, here in Canada, we get quite a raw deal when it comes to passports.  Our &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dfait-maeci.gc.ca/passport/fees_e.asp&quot;&gt;fees&lt;/a&gt; are comparable to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.passports.gov.au/fees.html&quot;&gt;Australia&lt;/a&gt;, the &lt;a href=&quot;http://travel.state.gov/newfees.html&quot;&gt;U.S.&lt;/a&gt; [though all these are higher than the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ukpa.gov.uk/pdf/feeleaflet.pdf&quot;&gt;U.K.&apos;s&lt;/a&gt; (warning: PDF)]; but, all those countries (and most others, I believe) issue passports for 10 years...the Canadian one is only valid for 5.

It&apos;s not just the fact that this makes our passport twice as expensive as others, it&apos;s the hassle of having to reapply (new photos, new signatures certifying you are who you say you are, etc.) twice as often.  And then most people abroad just assume I&apos;m from the U.S. anyway...</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Aug 2002 08:09:49 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: rushmc</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/19056/#319070</link>	
		<description>Comprehensive and authoritative post--excellent maiden voyage, taz!</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Aug 2002 08:48:32 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dhartung</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/19056/#319118</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.howstuffworks.com/passport.htm&quot;&gt;How passports work&lt;/a&gt;, including why some are blue and some are green. (They&apos;re wrong about one thing. They were green for decades, then changed to blue for the Bicentennial.) Also, the Straight Dope on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mpassport.html&quot;&gt;passport colors&lt;/a&gt;, covering the coveted red and black passports.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Aug 2002 10:38:21 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: reverendX</title>
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		<description>Re: the Straight Dope on black diplomatic passports:

A friend of mine has a diplomatic passport, but it was merely blue, but with the words DIPLOMAT on the cover. Her parents work for the State Department.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Aug 2002 15:33:51 -0800</pubDate>
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