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	<pubDate>Sun, 11 Aug 2002 16:53:51 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Post number 19080</title>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.miami.com/mld/miami/news/weird_news/3831191.htm"&gt;Monkeys use millipede juice as Ecstacy-style party drug&lt;/a&gt; &lt;i&gt;They bite the millipedes, then reach behind their back and rub it on their fur...Their eyes glaze over...one monkey shared a millipede with four family members and the entire family turned into a &apos;writhing mass.&apos;&lt;/i&gt; How cute is that? For context, here&apos;s a December report of wild primates ingesting plants with &lt;a href=&quot;http://news.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;$sessionid$U2CSRTJ0OCMX3QFIQMFSFF4AVCBQ0IV0?xml=/news/2001/12/26/wape26.xml&amp;_requestid=173800&quot;&gt;stimulant and hallucinogenic&lt;/a&gt; properties. Welcome to the new field of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.uihealthcare.com/depts/medmuseum/galleryexhibits/naturespharmacy/remedies/wild.html&quot;&gt;Zoopharmacognosy&lt;/a&gt;, which studies the &lt;a href=&quot;http://jinrui.zool.kyoto-u.ac.jp/CHIMPP/CHIMPP.html&quot;&gt;spontaneous medicinal (and recreational) use of plants&lt;/a&gt; by non-human animals. An &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.houghtonmifflinbooks.com/catalog/titledetail.cfm?titleNumber=682633&quot;&gt;intro&lt;/a&gt; to the subject. Perhaps now you&apos;re ready to chew on Terrence McKenna&apos;s visionary notion that &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.globalideasbank.org/BOV/BV-385.HTML&quot;&gt;psychedelic mushrooms&lt;/a&gt; were the spark for the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.deoxy.org/t_ladder.htm&quot;&gt;development of consciousness in apes&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Aug 2002 16:46:51 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>mediareport</dc:creator>		<category>monkeys</category>		<category>drugs</category>		<category>ecstasy</category>		<category>zoopharmacognosy</category>		<category>psychedelics</category>		<category>psychedelic</category>
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		<title>By: mediareport</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/19080/#319565</link>	
		<description>Apologies for posting an animal consciousness link so soon after the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/mefi/19035&quot;&gt;last one&lt;/a&gt;, but the &lt;i&gt;Miami Herald&lt;/i&gt; only keeps stories up for 7 days. There are lots of other links out there, like the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.uic.edu/classes/osci/osci590/8_1%20Chimpanzee%20Medicine%20Chest.htm&quot;&gt;Chimpanzee Medicine Chest&lt;/a&gt;, but I&apos;ll refrain from overloading you. :)</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Aug 2002 16:53:51 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Stan Chin</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/19080/#319572</link>	
		<description>I hope they don&apos;t start dancing badly with Glow Worms to repetitive cricket noises while babbling about peace and love.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Aug 2002 17:08:36 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Stan Chin</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: mr_crash_davis</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/19080/#319576</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;...&apos;&apos;If you like small animals that are not furry, they&apos;re kind of cute...&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

No, no, no.  Not furry != cute, no matter how much an &lt;b&gt;entomologist&lt;/b&gt; would like us to think that it does.

Now, on to the bigger point.  Has this been tried by any intrepid &lt;i&gt;homo sapiens&lt;/i&gt; yet?  I bet the people over at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nbc.com/Fear_Factor/home.shtml&quot;&gt;Fear Factor&lt;/a&gt; are quivering in near-orgasmic ecstasy over the prospect.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Aug 2002 17:12:31 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>mr_crash_davis</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: mediareport</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/19080/#319579</link>	
		<description>Aaaaraaagh. &quot;Ecstasy.&quot;

I swear I spellchecked the post. I swear!</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Aug 2002 17:19:04 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mediareport</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/19080/#319583</link>	
		<description>Holy flinging feces. Turn off the computer; PBS is actually running a special on dolphin intelligence right now, complete with footage of the dolphin self-recognition experiment from Friday&apos;s thread. Your local station may rerun &quot;Nature&quot; later tonight, too. West-coasters, you&apos;ve been warned.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Aug 2002 17:29:11 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ElvisJesus</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/19080/#319587</link>	
		<description>Tomorrow&apos;s Headline:
&lt;i&gt;Ashcroft declares millipede &apos;gateway bug&apos;, vows crackdown&lt;/i&gt;
Sorry...couldn&apos;t resist</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Aug 2002 17:45:10 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>ElvisJesus</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Modem Ovary</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/19080/#319591</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;No, no, no. Not furry != cute, no matter how much an entomologist would like us to think that it does.&lt;/i&gt;

What about babies?  They&apos;re not furry.  (ducking)</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Aug 2002 17:54:48 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Modem Ovary</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: HTuttle</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/19080/#319594</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Turn off the computer&lt;/i&gt;

Thanks to my own early excursions into the realm of the perception expanders, I am now quite capable of multitasking and watching the tube whilst simultaneously working and browsing online.

&lt;i&gt;What about babies? They&apos;re not furry.&lt;/i&gt;
Proving the point!</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Aug 2002 17:58:54 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Smart Dalek</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/19080/#319601</link>	
		<description>Talk, talk talk! Enough already!

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thesmallpress.com/reviews/april02/monkey_jennifer_1.html&quot;&gt;WHERE&apos;S&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.slavelabor.com/Jennifer%20Preview/jennifer.html&quot;&gt;THE&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://westfieldcomics.com/wow/frm_int_060.html&quot;&gt;CANDY??&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Aug 2002 18:09:10 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Kellydamnit</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/19080/#319606</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;What about babies? They&apos;re not furry. (ducking)&lt;/i&gt;

Ever seen a newborn baby?  Slimy just can&apos;t make up for lack of furriness on any cuteness scale.

I wonder what, if any, effect this will have on the &apos;war on drugs.&apos;  Mammals taking recreational drugs without having peer pressure, the tv, and popular music to blame it on.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Aug 2002 18:21:20 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: rks404</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/19080/#319612</link>	
		<description>Mediareport, this was a very tasty and intoxicating collections of links - thanks for putting this together! I&apos;m envious of the free and open attitudes monkeys have towards psychedelics and hope that our own species can evolve up to their level some day.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Aug 2002 18:36:59 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mr_crash_davis</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/19080/#319613</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;What about babies? They&apos;re not furry.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Contrary to popular belief, babies are not inherently cute.  In fact, they are only cute if they are related to you, and the closer the relation the cuter they get.  One&apos;s own offspring are almost mind-numbingly cute, whereas the people across the street have clearly been wading in the shallow end of the gene pool.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Aug 2002 18:38:09 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>mr_crash_davis</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Dirjy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/19080/#319616</link>	
		<description>Obviously these monkeys need some serious jail time to cure them.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Aug 2002 18:44:13 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dirjy</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: dolface</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/19080/#319627</link>	
		<description> &lt;i&gt;Aaaaraaagh. &quot;Ecstasy.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;
take heart  mediareport, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/mdma/mdma.shtml&quot;&gt;ecstasy&lt;/a&gt; is a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.Ecstasy.org/&quot;&gt;legitimate&lt;/a&gt; spelling of the word&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Aug 2002 19:09:06 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: tittergrrl</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/19080/#319629</link>	
		<description>I hear FOX is working on a new, hip hour drama about a group of undercover orang utans who attempt to infiltrate the young simian millipede scene.

21 Swing Tree.  Next Spring, Go Ape.  On Fox.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Aug 2002 19:13:14 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Keyser Soze</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/19080/#319631</link>	
		<description>Well, now we know why monkeys haven&apos;t taken over the world; they&apos;re too busy taking monkey ectasy.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Aug 2002 19:26:37 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Keyser Soze</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: thekorruptor</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/19080/#319633</link>	
		<description>If anyone wants to hear/ see Terence Mckenna, find &apos;Alien Dreamtime&apos; with Space Time Continuum.  There is both a video &amp;amp; cd. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.o-art.org/history/Ambient/T.McKenna/AlienDream.html&quot;&gt;here&apos;s some reference&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Aug 2002 19:27:58 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: alumshubby</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/19080/#319641</link>	
		<description>Did anyone else flash on &lt;i&gt;Naked Lunch&lt;/i&gt; and the whole thing with the centipedes?</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Aug 2002 19:51:16 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: geoff.</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/19080/#319673</link>	
		<description>&quot;Dude, dude... look my banana... look at it... whoaaaa&quot;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Aug 2002 21:06:26 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: twos</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/19080/#319697</link>	
		<description>I wonder if these millipedes can have any effect on humans. Hmmm.. could we start a new billion-dollar drug market and cash in?</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Aug 2002 22:02:34 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Neale</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/19080/#319715</link>	
		<description>And thus the War On Monkeys began.

And we all know who wins &lt;em&gt;that&lt;/em&gt; one.

Marky Mark.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Aug 2002 23:17:17 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Neale</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: dhartung</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/19080/#319727</link>	
		<description>Paging 9622.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Aug 2002 00:08:22 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: nath</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/19080/#319734</link>	
		<description>I love mushrooms.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Aug 2002 00:43:21 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>nath</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: shinythings</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/19080/#319742</link>	
		<description>I just finished reading about &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.com/search?q=viacreme&quot;&gt;viacreme&lt;/a&gt;. Apparently all the rage in &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mlmwatch.org/&quot;&gt;MLM&lt;/a&gt; circles. Does anyone else see the similarity?</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Aug 2002 01:21:59 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mcsweetie</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/19080/#319856</link>	
		<description>ok guys, new plan: trick ravers into eating millipedes!</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Aug 2002 08:56:50 -0800</pubDate>
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