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taz — Sun, 25 Aug 2002 05:52:05 -0800

The Invisible Library is a catalog of books that appear only within other books: in other words, a collection of imaginary books. With such names as "Growing Flowers by Candlelight in Hotel Rooms", "How Beautiful are Thy Feet" and "The Bitch Pack Meets on Wednesday", though, some of these books are just begging to be written. (more...)

By: taz

taz — Sun, 25 Aug 2002 05:54:01 -0800

A number of real books ("Cryptonomicon", "House of Leaves", "The Blind Assassin" and "The Garden of Forking Paths", for example) are even titled after the imaginary books within them, and certain authors show a decided fondness for this device - Peter Greenaway, Neil Gaiman, Terry Pratchett, Frank Hebert and Douglas Adams, to name only a few. If you spend some time looking, you will surely find some "easter eggs", such as Paul DiFillippo's imaginary book "Exceptional Creatures" (in his real book "Steampunk Trilogy"), containing information about the "Giant Rat of Sumatra", which happens to be the title of a non-existent book appearing in Conan Doyle's "The Adventure of the Sussex Vampire", a book written by one Dr. John Watson, imaginary author. Some have even gone to the trouble to review imaginary books, while others have promised to auction rare editions of them. Finally, a completely silly imaginary book game. Note: Excerpted from the book "Meta-Lit for Me-Fi-ers: Am I Hot or Not?" by Aya Waight Flaimingh, PhD., F. King Knewbie, PhP., et al, edited by F.P.P. Feirs.

By: Slithy_Tove

Slithy_Tove — Sun, 25 Aug 2002 06:16:27 -0800

Oh, this is just delicious, thanks muchly for the link! I'm especially glad to see that the large number of books invented by James Branch Cabell haven't gone unnoticed, like all those salacious tomes by 'Gowlais' in Jurgen: Historia de Bello Veneris, the Pornoboscodidascolo, to say nothing of the Thirty-Two Gratifications and System of Worshipping a Girl.

By: RavinDave

RavinDave — Sun, 25 Aug 2002 07:37:22 -0800

Where's "Will There Ever Be a Rainbow?'' by C. Montgomery Burns?

By: jeremias

jeremias — Sun, 25 Aug 2002 07:40:12 -0800

Reminds me of that vintage 1995 net art project The book you would like to be written Calling Borges? Is Dr. Borges in the house?

By: iconomy

iconomy — Sun, 25 Aug 2002 07:44:15 -0800

Fabulous link! Thank you for this. I'm in heaven. I just have to read House of Leaves by Mark Z. Danielewski. After seeing the sheer amount of fake books he alludes to, I read some reviews of the book and it sounds like it's right up my alley. The first chapter of The World According to Bensenhaver is contained within the pages of The World According to Garp, by John Iriving. My favorite imaginary book so far.

By: cyrusdogstar

cyrusdogstar — Sun, 25 Aug 2002 07:58:02 -0800

What about the Necronomicon? I haven't heard of the Cryptonomicon but it sounds like a rip-off of the original--an ancient book full to the brim of, well, various evil-type subjects, written about by H.P. Lovecraft in his horror stories. The best part is, many people think it's real, partly because he's so convincing, and partly because various occult publishing outfits have published their own versions of it. Surely I'm not the only Lovecraft fan here? ^_^

By: taz

taz — Sun, 25 Aug 2002 08:13:53 -0800

cyrusdogstar: It's there. Look under the alphabetical index of authors. (No, Cryptonomicon isn't a rip-off of Necronomicon, trust me.).

By: ursus_comiter

ursus_comiter — Sun, 25 Aug 2002 08:44:36 -0800

Yes, cyrusdogstar, one of the most infamous invisible books is the Necronomicon (invented by H.P. Lovecraft). Mention of the book is de rigeur in cheesy horror flicks and the Necronomicon meme is so pervasive that there are many folks who think that there's a "real" Necronomicon. There is a Necronomicon you can buy, but it's just a sham filled with Babylonian mythology. Flames have raged across usenet about this issue to the point where someone finally wrote a book debunking the whole thing and laying out the history of the fictional Necronomicon. Less well known, but from the same tradition is The King in Yellow, a play referred to in Robert W. Chambers' short horror fiction. Like the Necronomicon, there have been a fair number of attempts to write the actual play. Unlike the Necronomicon, however, one of these was actually a good effort. I quite like James Blish's "More Light", wherein is written an entire script for the play, save the last line.

By: ursus_comiter

ursus_comiter — Sun, 25 Aug 2002 08:55:51 -0800

Another fictional work that managed to get itself written is Venus on the Halfshell by Kilgore Trout. Kilgore Trout is a conceit of Kurt Vonnegut who appears as a hack SF author in many of Vonnegut's works. Philip Jose Farmer, a fine author in his own right, was such a fan of Vonnegut that he asked and got permission to write one of Kilgore Trout's novels that Vonnegut had referred to. And so it was that Venus on the Halfshell by Kilgore Trout (Farmer published it under that name at first) was born. I found it forgettable, but I do enjoy these kinds of games.

By: Foosnark

Foosnark — Sun, 25 Aug 2002 09:13:03 -0800

Great link :)

By: bingo

bingo — Sun, 25 Aug 2002 11:47:43 -0800

How To Disappear Completely And Never Be Found is an intelligent novel for older children that includes a library that only stocks unpublished books (disclosure: a friend of mine wrote it). Also, I'm surprised that no one has yet mentioned the Sandman graphic novels, in which the library in the realm of dreams contains such classics as "The Redemption of Dr. Faustus, a Merrie Comedie by Christopher Marlowe."

By: bingo

bingo — Sun, 25 Aug 2002 11:50:06 -0800

Kudos to taz, who did mention Gaiman, author of the Sandman, in the very first comment. My bad.

By: Kafkaesque

Kafkaesque — Sun, 25 Aug 2002 11:52:04 -0800

How bout Lucien's library of unwritten dream books in Sandman? I always loved that idea.

By: jaded

jaded — Sun, 25 Aug 2002 11:52:05 -0800

"House of Leaves" is fucking amazing. Go read it. Poe's most recent CD "Haunted" makes a couple of nods to the book as well, mostly in song titles.

By: Kafkaesque

Kafkaesque — Sun, 25 Aug 2002 11:52:29 -0800

oh hehe Me and you both bingo. *shame*

By: dhartung

dhartung — Sun, 25 Aug 2002 11:56:24 -0800

I've always wanted to read Timon Afinske, the Zemblan translation of Shakespeare's Timon of Athens, alluded to in Nabokov's Pale Fire. It's supposed, if I remember aright, to have been contaminated by the fictional translator into a parody of the fictional strife within the fictional Zemblan royal family. (Anyone with Zemblan for Travelers audiotapes they can send me will be endlessly idolized.) This is a particularly 20th-century type of game, with masters from Nabokov to Calvino and Borges all using it frequently, and has even reached the masses in books such as The Celestine Prophecy, which is sort of a low-rent Name of the Rose -- Eco's novel about a real lost manuscript of Aristotle's Poetics, which in the novel is extant and ... shall we say ... politically important.

By: RavinDave

RavinDave — Sun, 25 Aug 2002 13:32:53 -0800

A brief digression (& possible "Name of the Rose" spoiler): dhartung ... Charles Beaumont (probably neck-n-neck with Matheson as the greatest "Twilight Zone" writer) was said to have been working on a novel or a screenplay before his much too early death that touched on a theme similar to the one Eco used in "Name of the Rose". Beaumont imagined a brutal dystopian regime that outlawed all forms of comedy, since it was viewed as subversive to the authority of the State. (Boy, what a high-concept movie for someone like a Robin Williams, eh?) All of a sudden, the humorless and hypersensitive PC-types in our own society who grow pale and scant of breath in the presence of the slightest off-colored remark -- all of a sudden, they make sense. They're scared. Anyway, I don't wanna derail a fascinating discussion. Just had to toss in a quick bit of TZ trivia. So ... ... back to our previously scheduled thread.

By: bingo

bingo — Sun, 25 Aug 2002 13:40:26 -0800

Also begging for mention is Posession: A Romance, my favorite novel, an amazing tapestry of fictional voices, including poetry, letters, and literary criticism. Also of interest to Asimov fanatics is the out-of-print Murder at the ABA (American Booksellers Association), in which Asimov appears as a suspect. The story is told by a fictional author who resents Asimov's success and renowned egomania.

By: ac

ac — Sun, 25 Aug 2002 14:48:03 -0800

Kafkaesque: Lucien is the greatest. Have you read any of those other recently released comics which are set in the Sandman universe but do not involve Morpheus? Like "The Corinthian", and some others whose name I cannot recall.. I'm a huge Dune fan, and that series must have thousands of invisible books. Anyone read the prequels?

By: Hall

Hall — Sun, 25 Aug 2002 15:30:42 -0800

Borges needs a site of his own.

By: Grangousier

Grangousier — Sun, 25 Aug 2002 15:50:13 -0800

I'm a supporter of the idea that Only a Factory Girl by Rosie M Banks should be nominated (and if possible shunted up) every available Greatest Ever Books list (it did quite well in a poll a few years ago). Stanislav Lem is a genius. Some might say that Borges doesn't need a web site, since he has the Internet (it is, if nothing else, eminently Borgesian). And The Celestine Prophecy is the worst book I have ever, ever read. It's scary how many people possess a copy, though. I saw it on someone's shelves the other day and it filled me with dread, the way that a copy of Kitten Strangler's Gazette left casually on the coffee table would.

By: kliuless

kliuless — Sun, 25 Aug 2002 17:23:31 -0800

"Conversations with Muad' Dib" by Princess Irulan! keke :) my fave tho has to be "The Hipcrime Vocab" by Chad C. Mulligan, context (4)! altho "You: Beast" and "You're an Ignorant Idiot" have a better ring to them :)

By: lasthrsman

lasthrsman — Sun, 25 Aug 2002 17:37:52 -0800

Currently, I can't get to the page...but my favorite "Imaginary Book" is "The Book Of Counted Sorrows" It's referenced/quoted in almost every Dean Koontz novel.

By: IshmaelGraves

IshmaelGraves — Sun, 25 Aug 2002 17:39:09 -0800

I ran across this link some time ago and never got a chance to really look through it. Thanks for posting it, taz--I'm glad I took the time. Nobody here's mentioned Jonathan Carroll's The Land of Laughs, which is an interesting example of the genre. Jack Vance is also a worthy practitioner.

By: ac

ac — Sun, 25 Aug 2002 17:48:04 -0800

There are two out-of-print books by Frank Herbert I really want to get my hands on - Songs of Muad'Dib and something called Notebook of Dune or something like that. Dune is the greatest book ever written. Ever.

By: mkhall

mkhall — Sun, 25 Aug 2002 18:23:23 -0800

"my fave tho has to be "The Hipcrime Vocab" by Chad C. Mulligan, context (4)! altho "You: Beast" and "You're an Ignorant Idiot" have a better ring to them" kliuless, you are now my hero. To add to the list, might I suggest "Journal of a Working Boy, or Up From Sloth!" by Ignatius Reilly?

By: muckster

muckster — Sun, 25 Aug 2002 21:07:57 -0800

In Preston Sturges' Sullivan's Travels, the hero is a comedy director who plans to make a serious and socially responsible film. He wants to call it O Brother, Where Art Thou?

By: taz

taz — Sun, 25 Aug 2002 22:07:30 -0800

lasthrsman: the Invisible Library says "The Book of Counted Sorrows" is its most suggested volume, and Koontz has said that he receives about 3,000 requests a year asking about this book. He responded by reproducing it in e-book format (available here. You can find a collection of the BofCS poems found in his books so far here. BTW, all: the Invisible Library is asking for help with incomplete listings; info on the librarian's page under "Most Wanted".

By: cup

cup — Sun, 25 Aug 2002 23:30:26 -0800

cyrusdogstar >Surely I'm not the only Lovecraft fan here? ^_^ No, cyrusdogstar, you are not alone: Ia-R'lyehl Cihuiha flgagnl id Ia! Peace.

By: redsparkler

redsparkler — Mon, 26 Aug 2002 02:31:43 -0800

....mmm....Chuck Beaumont. I just finished reading Salamander, by Thomas Wharton, and it described some slightly impossible volumes of literature. The book itself tells about a man commisioned to create an infinite book, and his quest to gather the materials needed to truly make it great. Definitely worth a read, if you're interested in things like typestting, printing presses, and puns involving fonts.

By: taz

taz — Mon, 26 Aug 2002 03:10:43 -0800

"Salamander" looks great, redsparkler; slight problem with the link, though. Here you go.

By: redshoes3

redshoes3 — Mon, 26 Aug 2002 09:48:10 -0800

Some might say that Borges doesn't need a web site, since he has the Internet (it is, if nothing else, eminently Borgesian). (I heart Grangousier) This thread reminds me of one of my favorite novels, From the Realm of Morpheus, which features a library with, for instance, the novels of David Copperfield....it's a bit hard to find, though. Robin McKinley's Beauty has (besides a Greek-reading ugly duckling whose nickname is a bit of a joke) a library which contains books that haven't been written yet. Wasn't able to check the Invisible Library to see if either of those are included, though. I saw [The Celestine Prophecy] on someone's shelves the other day and it filled me with dread, the way that a copy of Kitten Strangler's Gazette left casually on the coffee table would. (I still heart Grangousier)

By: cps

cps — Mon, 26 Aug 2002 11:10:04 -0800

Richard Brautigan's The Abortion: A Historical Romance, which is just a beautiful, gentle story, features a unique library: anybody who writes a book can bring it and place it on the shelves (with assistance from the friendly hippie librarian). The Invisible Library lists the titles here. It's the descriptions of people bringing in their books that is truly priceless, though. There's a small exerpt here.

By: SisterHavana

SisterHavana — Mon, 26 Aug 2002 12:26:33 -0800

I always wanted to read The Secret Goldfish, by Holden Caulfield's brother D.B.

By: redsparkler

redsparkler — Mon, 26 Aug 2002 13:48:45 -0800

Thank you, Taz!

By: kliuless

kliuless — Mon, 26 Aug 2002 16:18:33 -0800

hey i was just looking around for more fictional apparitions, here is what i found!

i am a hero. YES! will i use my powers for good? no :) well maybe, just not necessarily for good, and sometimes for evil :)

By: taz

taz — Tue, 27 Aug 2002 01:28:05 -0800

Yes, Sir Kliuless, you are indeed a hero! I especially liked the fictional toys. And who knew there were so many imaginary cereals? The site even has a page that helps you to create your own imaginary cereal (my new cereal? Fruity Frosted Flaky Flakes.) What I googled for, but didn't find (with one minor exception), was imaginary book covers. I am fascinated with book cover art, and hoped to find some thrilling examples of designs for non-existent books, but no luck. Anybody?

By: sonofsamiam

sonofsamiam — Tue, 27 Aug 2002 10:09:30 -0800

Poe's most recent CD "Haunted" makes a couple of nods to the book as well, mostly in song title Poe is Danielewski's sister, for those who are interested. It's a great book. There is a great Borges site at (one of my favorite sites) the Modern Word. taz: some covers of Borges' non-existent books should be here, although the link is down for me at the moment.

By: taz

taz — Tue, 27 Aug 2002 12:34:31 -0800

Same problem for me, though I will keep trying - I'd love to see them.