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	<pubDate>Tue, 27 Aug 2002 16:38:17 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Post number 19511</title>
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		<description>Like &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tintin.com/uk/&quot;&gt;Tintin&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.asterix.tm.fr/english/&quot;&gt;Asterix&lt;/a&gt;, or even the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.smurfs.com&quot;&gt;Smurfs?&lt;/a&gt;  Step right this way, to the &lt;a href=&quot;http://membres.lycos.fr/chclaute/T/tardi23.jpg&quot;&gt;dark&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://membres.lycos.fr/chclaute/T/tardi30.jpg&quot;&gt;spooky side&lt;/a&gt; of &lt;a href=&quot;http://home.nordnet.fr/~pcappelle/image1/TARDI2.jpg&quot;&gt;French cartooning&lt;/a&gt;.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.lambiek.net/tardi.htm&quot;&gt;Jacques&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.geo.fmi.fi/~tmakinen/cartoons/books/tardi.shtml&quot;&gt;Tardi,&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.euronet.nl/users/rpk/cj235.htm&quot;&gt;relatively&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.euronet.nl/users/rpk/cj235.htm&quot;&gt;obscure&lt;/a&gt; in this country, brings you &lt;a href=&quot;http://membres.lycos.fr/chclaute/T/Tardi.html&quot;&gt;many&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://membres.lycos.fr/chclaute/T/tardi54.jpg&quot;&gt;lovely&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://membres.lycos.fr/chclaute/T/tardi71.jpg&quot;&gt;lonely images&lt;/a&gt; of &lt;a href=&quot;http://home.nordnet.fr/~pcappelle/image1/TARDI1.jpg&quot;&gt;cityscapes &lt;/a&gt;and &lt;a href=&quot;http://home.nordnet.fr/~pcappelle/image1/TARDI.jpg&quot;&gt;small horrors&lt;/a&gt;, mostly within the amazing stories of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.adeleblancsec.org/adele.html&quot;&gt;Adele&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.casterman.com/adele/fr/index.htm&quot;&gt;Blanc-Sec&lt;/a&gt;, writer and adventurer.  

At least &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1561630543/metafilter-20/ref=nosim/&quot;&gt;one&lt;/a&gt; of his books is still in print in English, and most can be &lt;a href=&quot;http://search.fnac.com/Search/Quick/Default.asp?Wkos=1&amp;SearchType=QUICKSEARCH&amp;RNID=-13&amp;SID=3D61157D-A750-B7DC-CACF-735B7B024F33&amp;UID=&amp;AID=&amp;Origin=FnacAff&amp;Words=tardi&amp;Recherche=-1&quot;&gt;ordered from overseas&lt;/a&gt;, and are well worth it. </description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Aug 2002 16:22:21 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>interrobang</dc:creator>		<category>BD</category>		<category>comics</category>		<category>art</category>		<category>illustration</category>		<category>Tardi</category>
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		<title>By: Busithoth</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/19511/#331834</link>	
		<description>Tardi is awesome!  He&apos;s got a beautiful &apos;eye&apos; for the scenes of Paris in the turn of the century, and his taste for Cthuloid nasties doesn&apos;t hurt his appeal to me, either.

Dark, somewhat complicated, visually interesting, I use him as an example to friends when they ask how different &apos;comics&apos; are across the pond...

I enjoyed these comics even before I could understand most of the language in them.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Aug 2002 16:38:17 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Smart Dalek</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/19511/#331840</link>	
		<description>Great links, interrobang. 

Tardi collaborated with Jean &quot;Moebius&quot; Giraud in &lt;i&gt;A Horse in Winter,&lt;/i&gt; and his contemporaries - &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.zompist.com/bob16.html&quot;&gt;Seth&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.comic-art.com/bios-2/bilal.htm&quot;&gt;Enki&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bilal.com/&quot;&gt;Bilal&lt;/a&gt;, and &lt;a href=&quot;http://coupland.homepage.dk/texter/restless/mainpage.html&quot;&gt;Paul Rivoche&lt;/a&gt; - have been inspired by his cinematic style.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Aug 2002 16:54:27 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: owillis</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/19511/#331841</link>	
		<description>My grandmother used to send Asterix books to me in Jamaica from England - got &apos;em all (including one that doubled as a board game). Love those menhirs. Tintin rocks too.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Aug 2002 16:59:08 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Grod</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/19511/#331844</link>	
		<description>Asterix is great, I used to read them in Latin.  If I ever learn another language I&apos;ll probably supplement the course with more Asterix.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Aug 2002 17:06:14 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: homunculus</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/19511/#331851</link>	
		<description>Oh, this takes me back.  I loved Asterix when I was a kid.  When I was a bit older my favorite was &lt;a href=http://www.lambiek.net/andreas.htm&gt;Andreas&lt;/a&gt;.  That link led me to &lt;a href=http://www.dossier-andreas.net/&gt;this Andreas site&lt;/a&gt; which I think I&apos;ll spend some time at.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Aug 2002 17:16:40 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: me3dia</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/19511/#331884</link>	
		<description>C&apos;est chouette, l&apos;Asterix!
Tintin, not so much.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Aug 2002 18:00:42 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Ayn Marx</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/19511/#331918</link>	
		<description>Um, isn&apos;t Tintin &lt;a href=&apos;http://www.belgianexperts.com/tintin.htm&apos;&gt;Belgian&lt;/a&gt;?  Try telling a Belgian he or she is French ...  They&apos;ll get that little kid to pee on you.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Aug 2002 18:55:32 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: rushmc</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/19511/#331919</link>	
		<description>Um, I think I agree with me3dia, but I&apos;m not sure why he&apos;s talking about owls....</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Aug 2002 19:00:08 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Kafkaesque</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/19511/#331942</link>	
		<description>&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.smurf.com/infos/bio.html&quot;&gt;Peyo&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; is also Belgian. 

Also, what&apos;s up with &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://smurfs.com&quot;&gt;smurfs.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;? Not a smufy smurf to be smurfed! ah, &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.smurf.com&quot;&gt;smurf.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;...so much better!</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Aug 2002 19:38:51 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Kafkaesque</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/19511/#331947</link>	
		<description>And, dude, I totally owned at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.smurf.com/games/games.html#&quot;&gt;Greedy&apos;s Bakeries&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Aug 2002 19:43:26 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: crumbly</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/19511/#331973</link>	
		<description>I picked up a copy of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bdnet.com/9782840551362/alb.htm&quot;&gt;P&#233;trus Barbyg&#232;re&lt;/a&gt; when I was in France a couple of years ago, and although my attempts to decipher the text have all pretty much failed,  the artwork stands on its own.  Sort of a cross between Sergio Aragon&#233;s and Edward Gorey... with color.  Here&apos;s some info on the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pastis.org/joann/&quot;&gt;artist&lt;/a&gt; and his &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pastis.org/joann/Albums.html&quot;&gt;work&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Aug 2002 20:14:41 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: panopticon</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/19511/#332064</link>	
		<description>In French (the language), Smurfs are known as &quot;Les Schtroumpfs&quot;

Papa Smurf is &quot;Le Grand Schtroumpf&quot;</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Aug 2002 22:51:24 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: owillis</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/19511/#332083</link>	
		<description>In the French version of the Smurfs, is &quot;Schtroumpf&quot; a multi-use word like Smurfs is in the English version? As in &quot;I smurfed her several times&quot; or &quot;Check out that smurfing son of a smurf&quot;?</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Aug 2002 00:25:21 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: spinifex</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/19511/#332090</link>	
		<description>I went to a christian school in the mid-eighties and being a big Asterix fan I&apos;d often bring one along to read at lunch. All was well until one day a teacher happened along and asked to see what I was reading. She flicked through for about five seconds, saw the word&apos;s &quot;Druid&quot; and &quot;Magic Potion&quot; and then the shit hit the fan. I was hauled up to the principals office and asked to explain why I was reading something satanic. Needless to say I was no longer allowed to bring such &quot;satanic filth&quot; to school. Tintin was a great comic also, and yes, school allowed that one.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Aug 2002 00:53:31 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Summer</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/19511/#332105</link>	
		<description>Spinifex, are you an Asterix character? The best thing about Asterix is the names. Getafix, Dogmatix, Tragicomix. Ho ho. Are they as funny in French? Maybe someone can tell me.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Aug 2002 02:06:45 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Samsonov14</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/19511/#332156</link>	
		<description>Mildly off-topic, but can anyone tell me the name of a feature-length French cartoon made a decade or two ago (sorry, that&apos;s all I remember) called Fantastic Planet or Incredible Planet or Impossible Planet or some such?  All I remember is that it was super-weird and featured a race of tiny people used as pets who rose up against their giant masters.  Little help?</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Aug 2002 05:55:03 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ashbury</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/19511/#332170</link>	
		<description>I&apos;ve just been getting back in to the Tintin books.  Yesterday I finished Tintin in Tibet and I&apos;ll be moving on to Flight 714.  I read them all when I was younger, both in French and English.  Lucky for me, they still make me laugh.

I was perusing the Asterix and Obelix selection at the library the other day as well, and I believe I will reread some of those as well.

Interrobang, I was going to do a thread about this stuff.  You beat me to it.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Aug 2002 06:23:01 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: picea</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/19511/#332192</link>	
		<description>That bizarre little film is called &lt;a href=&quot;http://us.imdb.com/Title?0070544&quot;&gt;La Planete Sauvage&lt;/a&gt;, Samsonov. The sheer strangeness of this movie makes it worth seeing. I wish there were more animated films this adventurous out there.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Aug 2002 07:04:27 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: interrobang</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/19511/#332259</link>	
		<description>Ashbury:  if you look closely, you&apos;ll see that I really *didn&apos;t* do a thread about Asterix and Tintin....</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Aug 2002 08:23:58 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Kafkaesque</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/19511/#332274</link>	
		<description>There have been a numebr of Asterix films, including the most recent, &lt;a href=&quot;http://us.imdb.com/Title?0250223&quot;&gt;Ast&#233;rix &amp;amp; Ob&#233;lix: Mission Cl&#233;op&#226;tre&lt;/a&gt;, with Gerard Depardieu as Obelix. Of course, that&apos;s hardly surprising, given the French National Law that every film made in France must feature at least token Depardieu content. I don&apos;t think any of the movies have been released in the US.

&lt;small&gt;sorry we have so cruelly hijacked your thread, interrobang&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Aug 2002 08:47:21 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ashbury</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/19511/#332357</link>	
		<description>Ah, yes.  Threads have a habit of going in directions other than what was meant, don&apos;t they?  I apologize for the hijack.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Aug 2002 09:57:14 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: rexgregbr</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/19511/#332555</link>	
		<description>Tintin: I&apos;ve read some. 
Asterix: I&apos;m addicted to it. My favorite is &apos;The Great Crossing&apos;, the one where they visit America and find some very odd romans. I&apos;m not sure about the title, since I&apos;ve read it in Portuguese and plainly translated it.

Asterix is a huge thing here in Brazil and it usually goes from father to son. Most of my friends got their albums from their fathers&apos; own collection. I also attended a catholic school, but my Portuguese teacher actually encouraged us to read it. And, yes, the names are funny in any language, I guess. Acidocloridix, Ideafix and so on.

Tardi, I didn&apos;t know all that well. But, please, let me thank you. One of the links was from a Finish guy who actually has his own graphic novel, The Sixth Seal. I&apos;ve read this comic 4 years ago and I plainly lost the link and couldn&apos;t remember the name of it (or the author&apos;s name) and no Google could help me. Thank you!!!

French and european artists: I like them a lot. I grew up reading superheroes, The Spirit and anything I could get from Moebius, Manara and Crepax. Here in Brazil, there was a huge cult to european comics 15 years ago and we still have a lot of good stuff. 

Later on, I found Liberatore, Pazienza, Jaime Martin, Bilal, Max and many others. I still try to get as much as I can, but  currency exchange sucks and it&apos;s all a bit expensive.

Thank you, again, for the thread and the links...</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Aug 2002 12:47:18 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: rushmc</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/19511/#333755</link>	
		<description>Has anyone seen either of the Depardieu Asterix movies?  I really wanted to see them.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Aug 2002 18:47:45 -0800</pubDate>
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