"At this time, we will remove the shackles from Mr. Syed"
September 19, 2022 2:02 PM Subscribe
This post was deleted for the following reason: Double post -- travelingthyme
Oh, bizarre. Working on my desktop but not my phone. Should be pointing to https://www.thebaltimorebanner.com/community/criminal-justice/adnan-syed-gets-chance-at-freedom-with-hearing-monday-afternoon-in-baltimore-court-HDLISZOUOBBNPI5H7UUSMWEXWA/
Uh, I guess if a mod could check and correct?
posted by Zargon X at 2:13 PM on September 19, 2022
Uh, I guess if a mod could check and correct?
posted by Zargon X at 2:13 PM on September 19, 2022
On the balance I think this is a good thing. From my limited knowledge (eg what Serial presented to me), this was a terrible case that should not have resulted in a conviction.
But I have no idea if he’s guilty; the show did not leave me convinced either way.
posted by obfuscation at 2:20 PM on September 19, 2022
But I have no idea if he’s guilty; the show did not leave me convinced either way.
posted by obfuscation at 2:20 PM on September 19, 2022
Bad link, I think - redirects to “https://adnan-syed-news/”
Seems to be working now, so… shrug emoji, I guess, or “thanks, mods”
posted by Going To Maine at 2:32 PM on September 19, 2022
Seems to be working now, so… shrug emoji, I guess, or “thanks, mods”
posted by Going To Maine at 2:32 PM on September 19, 2022
I guess I hadn't realized this case was so old! It was an old case in 2014 when the podcast first appeared, and that's a lot longer ago than I remember it being.
posted by hippybear at 2:32 PM on September 19, 2022
posted by hippybear at 2:32 PM on September 19, 2022
Recently mentioned over here. I'm so happy for him. I never thought he did it. I really hope the right person is brought to justice on this one.
posted by jenfullmoon at 2:36 PM on September 19, 2022
posted by jenfullmoon at 2:36 PM on September 19, 2022
But I have no idea if he’s guilty; the show did not leave me convinced either way.
The show left me thinking that he was innocent, but it didn’t particularly feel like they had unearthed any facts about it. Indeed, it seems like the general joke of true crime podcasts (except for maybe In The Dark?) is that the hosts kind of stumble around and nothing is actually resolved. Getting to actual truth is essentially impossible, and I’m still miffed that Serial used that as a hook. Also, in my extremely limited follow up when I listened to a bit of Rabia Choudry’s podcast on why Adnan was innocent, the focus there was on police malfeasance and ineptitude - something that Serial, if I recall correctly, gave fairly short shrift.
Anyhoo, I think that TAL (or someone else, really) owes us an unpacking of all of this and how we got from Serial to Adnan leaving jail.
posted by Going To Maine at 2:38 PM on September 19, 2022
The show left me thinking that he was innocent, but it didn’t particularly feel like they had unearthed any facts about it. Indeed, it seems like the general joke of true crime podcasts (except for maybe In The Dark?) is that the hosts kind of stumble around and nothing is actually resolved. Getting to actual truth is essentially impossible, and I’m still miffed that Serial used that as a hook. Also, in my extremely limited follow up when I listened to a bit of Rabia Choudry’s podcast on why Adnan was innocent, the focus there was on police malfeasance and ineptitude - something that Serial, if I recall correctly, gave fairly short shrift.
Anyhoo, I think that TAL (or someone else, really) owes us an unpacking of all of this and how we got from Serial to Adnan leaving jail.
posted by Going To Maine at 2:38 PM on September 19, 2022
Whatever is next, I hope for justice for both Hae and Adnan; I ended the podcast feeling conflicted about his guilt or innocence, but the case that was made in court seemed very flawed - in short, I certainly felt there was reasonable doubt based on what was presented.
I feel like this whole thing deserves a bigger, and better unpacking, than what Serial and the various follow-ups did.
posted by nubs at 2:42 PM on September 19, 2022
I feel like this whole thing deserves a bigger, and better unpacking, than what Serial and the various follow-ups did.
posted by nubs at 2:42 PM on September 19, 2022
There's a documentary series on HBO, and the podcast Undisclosed has covered the case in depth too. There's lots of information out there, beyond the waffley version of the story that Serial gave us. (I say this as someone who loved Serial.)
This news? This news is GOOD! YAY! Nothing can undo the horrendous injustice that was done to Syed and his family, but this is still a matter to celebrate.
posted by meese at 2:48 PM on September 19, 2022 [3 favorites]
This news? This news is GOOD! YAY! Nothing can undo the horrendous injustice that was done to Syed and his family, but this is still a matter to celebrate.
posted by meese at 2:48 PM on September 19, 2022 [3 favorites]
I remember listening to the podcast and thinking the evidence against him was very weak, basically just hinging on inconclusive cellphone tower data and the word of a teenager shown to be dishonest about other topics who either lied to save his own skin or was coerced by police into making up a story so they could close the case. As I recall, most initial listeners to the podcast had the same impression.
Interestingly, a couple years after the podcast episode aired, the serialpodcast subreddit was almost entirely convinced that he was guilty.
I have no idea where this should land now, but if the evidence is as thin as the podcast presented, this result seems sensible.
But my heart goes out to the parents of the Hae Min, the girl who was murdered. How awful for them to have this dredged up in the news regularly for almost a decade.
posted by lewedswiver at 2:55 PM on September 19, 2022
Interestingly, a couple years after the podcast episode aired, the serialpodcast subreddit was almost entirely convinced that he was guilty.
I have no idea where this should land now, but if the evidence is as thin as the podcast presented, this result seems sensible.
But my heart goes out to the parents of the Hae Min, the girl who was murdered. How awful for them to have this dredged up in the news regularly for almost a decade.
posted by lewedswiver at 2:55 PM on September 19, 2022
Sarah was at the courthouse when Adnan was released, a new episode is coming tomorrow morning.
posted by jenfullmoon at 3:10 PM on September 19, 2022 [1 favorite]
posted by jenfullmoon at 3:10 PM on September 19, 2022 [1 favorite]
Anyone following this in detail knows that Adnan Sayed clearly did not receive a fair trial, which is why the conviction needed throwing out. His guilt or innocence, for the specific question of whether the conviction was valid, is irrelevant.
posted by mcstayinskool at 3:22 PM on September 19, 2022 [2 favorites]
posted by mcstayinskool at 3:22 PM on September 19, 2022 [2 favorites]
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