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	<title>Comments on: Comments on 19954</title>
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	<pubDate>Thu, 12 Sep 2002 11:22:34 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Post number 19954</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/19954/</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href="http://dispatches.azstarnet.com/joe/1998/1123.htm"&gt;Remembering the crazy dot-com boom.&lt;/a&gt; In November of 1998, a small California Internet provider named AvTel Communications announced they were providing local ADSL service to the community via a typical (and innocent, at least so it was thought) corporate press release.  Business wires &lt;s&gt;spin&lt;/s&gt; completely mis-interpret the release, CNBC talks about it on air, then clueless investors hoping to get rich quick start throwing money at the stock causing the stock price to rise an amazing &lt;a href=&quot;http://moneycentral.msn.com/investor/charts/chartdl.asp?Symbol=netx&amp;DateRangeForm=1&amp;PT=5&amp;CP=1&amp;C5=10&amp;C6=1998&amp;C7=12&amp;C8=1998&amp;C9=0&amp;ComparisonsForm=1&amp;CE=0&amp;CompSyms=&amp;DisplayForm=1&amp;D9=1&amp;D0=1&amp;D4=1&amp;D7=&amp;D6=&amp;D3=0&amp;ShowChtBt=Refresh+Chart&quot;&gt;1284% in one day&lt;/a&gt; before trading is suspended.  After several &lt;a href=&quot;http://wyca.com/complnts/avtelcom.htm&quot;&gt;class-action suits&lt;/a&gt;, and a company &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.netlojix.com/company/index.phtml&quot;&gt;re-name&lt;/a&gt;, the company managed to survive the hoopla, but only barely.  Now they&apos;re being &lt;a href=&quot;http://biz.yahoo.com/e/010608/netx.html&quot;&gt;de-listed &lt;/a&gt; like yesterday&apos;s trash.  Did something like this ever happen to a company for whom you worked?  Let&apos;s share! &lt;small&gt;(Yeah, I worked there then.)&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Sep 2002 11:17:08 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>WolfDaddy</dc:creator>		<category>internet</category>		<category>telecommunications</category>		<category>dotcom</category>		<category>boom</category>		<category>finance</category>		<category>stockmarket</category>		<category>nostalgia</category>
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		<title>By: WolfDaddy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/19954/#343569</link>	
		<description>Stock price in 1998: as high as 30-something dollars a share.

Stock price today: 4 pennies.

Hearing nearly two hundred voicemails that somehow got into my phone (just a lowly middle manager folks, nothing to see here) from frenzied (and just as clueless as the investors) journalists ranging from The Wall Street Journal to Entertainment Weekly: priceless</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Sep 2002 11:22:34 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mr_crash_davis</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/19954/#343580</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.redherring.com/insider/1999/0115/inv-marketwatch.html&quot;&gt;Oh yeah&lt;/a&gt;, only it happened mere months before I was hired, so I missed out on the crazy stock options that everyone else bought houses with (okay, maybe not whole houses, but they made some hefty down payments).</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Sep 2002 11:33:12 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: kokogiak</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/19954/#343594</link>	
		<description>My &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.redherring.com/insider/1999/0729/inv-drugstore.html&quot;&gt;dot-com boom&lt;/a&gt; story was a roller-coaster as well. Frenzied and deluded as those days were, I still miss the excitement, and the promise. I guess I&apos;m one of the luckier ones, since my dscm stock still has &lt;i&gt;some&lt;/i&gt; value (still 90% down from its IPO though).</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Sep 2002 11:44:02 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ahimsakid</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/19954/#343597</link>	
		<description>I joined the the &quot;world&apos;s largest internet consultancy&quot;--marchFirst (sic) just as it formed. Does anyone remember  their classic dot-boom commercials that never told you what they did? Well, it turned out that the Millenium turn might not have been the best time to launch a business predicated on getting others to pay you to show them the E-business ropes. More than that my parting agreement with them prevents me from saying.

I did like those commercials tho, they were so, so, non-commercial. Ya know?</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Sep 2002 11:46:07 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: WolfDaddy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/19954/#343637</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;I still miss the excitement, and the promise&lt;/i&gt;

Yeah, I do too.  &lt;i&gt;Any&lt;/i&gt;thing seemed possible just 5 short years ago.  But hey, since the markets are back to their 1998 levels, let&apos;s do it all over again! :-)

The most frustrating aspect of the AvTel debacle is the fact that both Reuters and Bloomberg news wire services somehow emerged completely unscathed.  The two wires both interpreted the press release to mean that AvTel had &lt;i&gt;invented&lt;/i&gt; DSL and then forwarded their version of the release on to a worldwide audience.  Irresponsible media at its height, with no repercussions whatsoever.  Damn the liberal media! DAMN THEM ALL TO HELL!! :-)

The funniest aspect is that most of the lawsuits against the company are only now reaching settlement.  The plaintiffs have, for the most part, &quot;won&quot; the &quot;right&quot; to purchase the stock today for $8/share.  Remember folks, the internet moves faster than the legal system.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=NETX.OB&amp;d=t&quot;&gt;Silly plaintiffs.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Sep 2002 12:27:40 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>WolfDaddy</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: TuffAustin</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/19954/#343645</link>	
		<description>Well I made it through to the last round of layoffs at my company which occured the day before they sold all the IP, headcount, and contracts to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.peoplesoft.com&quot;&gt;a larger software company.&lt;/a&gt;  July of this year, that company picked me back up off the bench.  The original company is still being traded, and despite the fact that they have nothing to sell, no IP, no employees, etc, &lt;a href=&quot;http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=clic.ob&amp;d=1y&quot;&gt;the price&lt;/a&gt; is currently &lt;i&gt;higher&lt;/i&gt; than before the aquisition.
Go figure.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Sep 2002 12:35:57 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: patrickje</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/19954/#343646</link>	
		<description>&lt;b&gt;WolfDaddy&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;i&gt;Anything seemed possible just 5 short years ago. &lt;/i&gt;

You can do anything at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.zombo.com&quot;&gt;ZomboCom&lt;/a&gt;.  Anything at all...</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Sep 2002 12:37:11 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: hob</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/19954/#343751</link>	
		<description>Hah, I just today quit my job at a big Telecom/Media firm to go work at a startup.  I feel giddy and a little nauseous, but I&apos;m looking on it as &quot;buying low...&quot;  Besides, the big company bullshit was getting to me.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Sep 2002 13:55:45 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: oog</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/19954/#344027</link>	
		<description>patrick.  thank you, for that link.  truly.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Sep 2002 17:37:40 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: LuxFX</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/19954/#344043</link>	
		<description>yep, my last company made 90%+ of their profits last year from the (then) highly popular energy trading division.  but they suffered from enron-fallout and (on wall-street&apos;s suggestion) took down the entire energy trading division (myself included).  stock prices were trading at $33 a year ago, to around $4 today.  so much for my 401K package...</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Sep 2002 18:01:41 -0800</pubDate>
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