Help me leave my husband.
September 18, 2002 3:42 AM Subscribe
Help me leave my husband. No, not me. A woman named Peggy from Seattle, Washington saw Save Karyn and decided to do the same thing to help end her marriage. more inside..
Damn, her name's Penny, not Peggy. Our local news profiled her and called her Peggy.
posted by SuzySmith at 4:00 AM on September 18, 2002
posted by SuzySmith at 4:00 AM on September 18, 2002
If you're a chancer why not...she's got $392 more than she used to. But the 'kidnapped' picture is decidedly dodgy as is her answer in FAQ's as to why her husband has not seen the website:
My husband is deployed to a country where there is no electricity
I'm picking Italy.
posted by meech at 4:23 AM on September 18, 2002
My husband is deployed to a country where there is no electricity
I'm picking Italy.
posted by meech at 4:23 AM on September 18, 2002
Naming someone KarYn is cruel and unusual. Well, at least unusual. It makes Caryn seem almost normal. Which it is not.
posted by ParisParamus at 4:24 AM on September 18, 2002
posted by ParisParamus at 4:24 AM on September 18, 2002
Damn, her name's Penny, not Peggy
Life imitates Buckaroo Banzai. Fascinating. I hope her last name is Priddy.
After looking at the website, I must say that for someone who claims to have no marketable skills, she designs a decent webpage.
posted by MrBaliHai at 4:42 AM on September 18, 2002
Life imitates Buckaroo Banzai. Fascinating. I hope her last name is Priddy.
After looking at the website, I must say that for someone who claims to have no marketable skills, she designs a decent webpage.
posted by MrBaliHai at 4:42 AM on September 18, 2002
Seems like Our Karyn's idea has started a mini-craze altho' the original (and best IMHO) is streets ahead. As of last Sunday, everyone's favourite Brooklyn Shopper/Poster child for the death of Western Civilisation pt13,235 [delete as applicable] is just $4,287.52 from financial freedom.
Go Kayrn, go Karyn, go karyn [rpt to fade with accompanying hand stirring dance]
MrBaliHai: [/sarcasm]?!?
meech: I pick Belgium.
posted by i_cola at 4:58 AM on September 18, 2002
Go Kayrn, go Karyn, go karyn [rpt to fade with accompanying hand stirring dance]
MrBaliHai: [/sarcasm]?!?
meech: I pick Belgium.
posted by i_cola at 4:58 AM on September 18, 2002
meech: I pick Belgium
In Belgium, electricity is indeed so abundantly available that we light all our highways (yes! all of them!), making it clearly visible from outer space (scroll down to page six for an image of Europe at night).
posted by NekulturnY at 5:12 AM on September 18, 2002
In Belgium, electricity is indeed so abundantly available that we light all our highways (yes! all of them!), making it clearly visible from outer space (scroll down to page six for an image of Europe at night).
posted by NekulturnY at 5:12 AM on September 18, 2002
I find myseld being drawn back to that picture... I have some ideas about how she could earn a few extra dollars...
posted by warhol at 5:13 AM on September 18, 2002
posted by warhol at 5:13 AM on September 18, 2002
The only donation site that hasn't made me roll my eyes in disbelief so far is helpjennifer.com, for a young woman who has accumulated high medical bills from lyme disease.
I do have some admiration for the chutzpah of people who expect other people to pay to solve problems they got themselves into, but...it's really a little ludicrous.
posted by Jeanne at 5:26 AM on September 18, 2002
I do have some admiration for the chutzpah of people who expect other people to pay to solve problems they got themselves into, but...it's really a little ludicrous.
posted by Jeanne at 5:26 AM on September 18, 2002
She's been married 9 years and has a 15 year old son named Kevin... anyone else see a problem here?
posted by GhostintheMachine at 5:29 AM on September 18, 2002
posted by GhostintheMachine at 5:29 AM on September 18, 2002
At least the Homeless guy makes his panhandling interesting.
There was a girl at my high school that believed Australia didn't have electricity. Outhouses and candles. Maybe this woman believes the same thing.
posted by nemesis at 5:41 AM on September 18, 2002
There was a girl at my high school that believed Australia didn't have electricity. Outhouses and candles. Maybe this woman believes the same thing.
posted by nemesis at 5:41 AM on September 18, 2002
Belgium is a real country?!? Sheesh, I thought I'd made that one up...
posted by i_cola at 5:45 AM on September 18, 2002
posted by i_cola at 5:45 AM on September 18, 2002
MrBaliHai: [/sarcasm]?!?
Well okay, maybe "decent" was too generous a description.
posted by MrBaliHai at 5:48 AM on September 18, 2002
Well okay, maybe "decent" was too generous a description.
posted by MrBaliHai at 5:48 AM on September 18, 2002
She's been married 9 years and has a 15 year old son named Kevin... anyone else see a problem here?
- GhostintheMachine
Only with your own thinking skills.
posted by dash_slot- at 5:54 AM on September 18, 2002
- GhostintheMachine
Only with your own thinking skills.
posted by dash_slot- at 5:54 AM on September 18, 2002
What I'd like to know is why people help these losers out by linking to their sites.
If we ignore them they wont get any money and they'll have to go back to their jobs at Wal-Mart to pay rent on the double-wide.
posted by bondcliff at 6:04 AM on September 18, 2002
If we ignore them they wont get any money and they'll have to go back to their jobs at Wal-Mart to pay rent on the double-wide.
posted by bondcliff at 6:04 AM on September 18, 2002
she's had 9 years to take courses part-time and earn her diploma, and how many years before she got married, hello...?! sounds like she's been squandering her life under the guise of being a "stay at home mom", and that buys exactly $0.00 from me.
posted by t r a c y at 6:33 AM on September 18, 2002
posted by t r a c y at 6:33 AM on September 18, 2002
Hungry. Will do websites for pie.
To my mind, the big difference between people who do these sites and those panhandlers you see living under bridges is that some of the panhandlers have dignity. Or are, at least, completely schizophrenic.
posted by moonbiter at 6:33 AM on September 18, 2002
To my mind, the big difference between people who do these sites and those panhandlers you see living under bridges is that some of the panhandlers have dignity. Or are, at least, completely schizophrenic.
posted by moonbiter at 6:33 AM on September 18, 2002
Next up: help a spunky young street kid get back to his normal lifestyle with "BuyMeMeth.com"!
posted by ChrisTN at 6:34 AM on September 18, 2002
posted by ChrisTN at 6:34 AM on September 18, 2002
It's a scam, these people should be ashamed of themselves.
posted by disgruntled at 6:48 AM on September 18, 2002
posted by disgruntled at 6:48 AM on September 18, 2002
"HELLO FUTURE GIRLFRIEND..."
posted by trioperative at 6:48 AM on September 18, 2002
posted by trioperative at 6:48 AM on September 18, 2002
If I were to send money to anyone online, without any real assurance of getting anything in return, it would be Jim Bell. His website seems to be gone, but here's the Google cache.
posted by Nicolae Carpathia at 6:50 AM on September 18, 2002
posted by Nicolae Carpathia at 6:50 AM on September 18, 2002
Naming someone KarYn is cruel and unusual. Well, at least unusual. It makes Caryn seem almost normal. Which it is not.
My sister is named Caryn. And the last time I talked to her, she seemed pretty normal. I'm the freak in the family, and I have a normal, non-weirdly spelled name.
I wish people would give me money. I could really use some. I wonder if buynatalieacar.com is available...
posted by eilatan at 7:02 AM on September 18, 2002
My sister is named Caryn. And the last time I talked to her, she seemed pretty normal. I'm the freak in the family, and I have a normal, non-weirdly spelled name.
I wish people would give me money. I could really use some. I wonder if buynatalieacar.com is available...
posted by eilatan at 7:02 AM on September 18, 2002
I'm going to jump on this band wagon. I'll register cashforsubstrate.com. I promise to spend all proceeds on nudie bars, booze and scuba diving. Rather than a lame page with a list of generic thank you's to contributors I'll actually spend time and write up reviews of strip clubs, dive locations and dive operations. Plus, as a bonus you won't have to ever feel queasy, that you might have been taken in. I fully admit that I'm an engineer making an excellent wage. I admit that I'm just looking to augment my ability to participate in certain hobbies.
How can this possibly miss?
posted by substrate at 7:26 AM on September 18, 2002
How can this possibly miss?
posted by substrate at 7:26 AM on September 18, 2002
I can't get over the no electricity (or computers) thing. This does not bode well for the war on terrorism.
posted by cedar at 7:45 AM on September 18, 2002
posted by cedar at 7:45 AM on September 18, 2002
At what point do IRS regulations kick in and require the reporting of gifts? Perhaps if the amount is above $20,000 (the amount requested by Karyn)?
posted by quam at 7:48 AM on September 18, 2002
posted by quam at 7:48 AM on September 18, 2002
At what point do IRS regulations kick in and require the reporting of gifts? Perhaps if the amount is above $20,000 (the amount requested by Karyn)?
I could be wrong, but I think that the level is set at $10,000, but even that's just between any two individuals. So, as long as no one person gives this woman more than $10K, I don't think she'd have to report it at all.
posted by ChrisTN at 7:54 AM on September 18, 2002
I could be wrong, but I think that the level is set at $10,000, but even that's just between any two individuals. So, as long as no one person gives this woman more than $10K, I don't think she'd have to report it at all.
posted by ChrisTN at 7:54 AM on September 18, 2002
This makes me want to puke, for many reasons.
Hope he's not on antimalarial medication when he finds out about that website.
posted by konolia at 7:57 AM on September 18, 2002
Hope he's not on antimalarial medication when he finds out about that website.
posted by konolia at 7:57 AM on September 18, 2002
That's it. I'm gonna register BuyMichelleAPriceyOutOfStateCollegeDegreeBecauseDCsSoCalledUniversityIsAFuckingJoke.com . Coming soon to an 'FPP' near you.
posted by Sapphireblue at 8:12 AM on September 18, 2002
posted by Sapphireblue at 8:12 AM on September 18, 2002
dash_slot, what are you implying about my thinking skills?
Work it out... if her current husband was the father, they had at least six years together before they were married to figure out if they were compatible or not. If he is not the father, then what happened to him? And why does this son merit so little mention? She only talks of her two darling young daughters, not her grown son (who is apparently going to a free-tuition college, considering the state of her pitiful finances). In other words, there is far more she is NOT saying about her situation, and that should be questioned as much as the rest.
posted by GhostintheMachine at 8:23 AM on September 18, 2002
Work it out... if her current husband was the father, they had at least six years together before they were married to figure out if they were compatible or not. If he is not the father, then what happened to him? And why does this son merit so little mention? She only talks of her two darling young daughters, not her grown son (who is apparently going to a free-tuition college, considering the state of her pitiful finances). In other words, there is far more she is NOT saying about her situation, and that should be questioned as much as the rest.
posted by GhostintheMachine at 8:23 AM on September 18, 2002
It's interesting how much anger these cyber beggars generate. Sure, what Karyn and Penny and their ilk are doing is rather shameful but it's not like they are actually hurting anyone. We all knew the playing field wasn't really level and there would always be those with less pride and fewer scruples who would take what advantage they could in order to get ahead in the game. And there's nothing we can do about that - except get a little pissed off.
posted by orange swan at 8:29 AM on September 18, 2002
posted by orange swan at 8:29 AM on September 18, 2002
No electricity? Apparently she has never of portable generators, which the army has in no short supply, believe you me. No internet? Hell, I was in Kosovo once, and I spent more time online there than I did in Germany.
posted by Apoch at 8:35 AM on September 18, 2002
posted by Apoch at 8:35 AM on September 18, 2002
FundsForFes.com is free...
Realistically speaking, does anyone believe the reports of actual cash coming in? I mena, c'mon - who sends these people money? In a recession, no less? Personally, I think all that "total received from people = $392" is very much like the change that street performers put in their instrument cases, only in Penny's case, totally imaginary.
posted by UncleFes at 8:38 AM on September 18, 2002
Realistically speaking, does anyone believe the reports of actual cash coming in? I mena, c'mon - who sends these people money? In a recession, no less? Personally, I think all that "total received from people = $392" is very much like the change that street performers put in their instrument cases, only in Penny's case, totally imaginary.
posted by UncleFes at 8:38 AM on September 18, 2002
I don't know what all the bitterness is about. We get scammed every day by companies charging ridiculous prices for cheap goods (eg. cds) and lots of people (including myself infrequently) buy lottery tickets believing vainly that they will win (and they are told that repeatedly by wish-fulfillment commercials). Karyn and her ilk are entertaining at least, and her site in particular gave me a laugh. I'd "donate" a dollar for that.
posted by meowmix at 8:54 AM on September 18, 2002
posted by meowmix at 8:54 AM on September 18, 2002
Ah, those sites are all just rip-offs of Gimme a buck.. please (est. 1998). Hmm, that guy made a grand total of $65.31 in 4 years -- or maybe he hasn't updated the page for the last two.
posted by c3o at 9:05 AM on September 18, 2002
posted by c3o at 9:05 AM on September 18, 2002
Karyn and her ilk are entertaining at least, and her site in particular gave me a laugh.
I really don't derive any entertainment out of it, other than the opportunity to shake my head. Even the homeless dudes in Penn Station can at least tell you a joke or a poem. If they were willing to exchange something other than the not-so-fuzzy-feeling of helping a mooch in need, I might consider it.
posted by dr_dank at 9:10 AM on September 18, 2002
I really don't derive any entertainment out of it, other than the opportunity to shake my head. Even the homeless dudes in Penn Station can at least tell you a joke or a poem. If they were willing to exchange something other than the not-so-fuzzy-feeling of helping a mooch in need, I might consider it.
posted by dr_dank at 9:10 AM on September 18, 2002
All these people very reasonably point out that no one has to visit their web sites and that you are free to ignore them altogether....unlike the roadside beggar who walks along beside you to intimidate and/or guilt-trip you into giving money. The Pennys and Karyns of the Web also quite freely admit that there is no reason in the world you *should* give them money. So I don't see the problem here. Don't click on the link if you have a problem with it. I don't, for example, click on goatse.cx links.
In addition, a number of the questions I've seen raised here ("Where did the 15-year-old son come from?" "Who's paying for him to go to college?" "What about the IRS?") are answered on the FAQ page. If you're interested enough to go to the site at all, don't bother slamming her for incomplete information till you've actually read the information that's there.
Honestly, the amount of time we waste passing judgment on people we don't even know when instead we could be out there accomplishing something....
posted by Raya at 9:10 AM on September 18, 2002
In addition, a number of the questions I've seen raised here ("Where did the 15-year-old son come from?" "Who's paying for him to go to college?" "What about the IRS?") are answered on the FAQ page. If you're interested enough to go to the site at all, don't bother slamming her for incomplete information till you've actually read the information that's there.
Honestly, the amount of time we waste passing judgment on people we don't even know when instead we could be out there accomplishing something....
posted by Raya at 9:10 AM on September 18, 2002
There's a range of reactions to these cyber beggars. Some make "they should rot in hell" comments, one woman in a former thread about Karyn reported that she had paced the floor in a rage after visiting savekaryn, others are just mildly irritated and disgusted, and some are indulgent and amused. Is this a matter of temperament? Does it perhaps relate to the reactor's state of mind on the "fairness" of his or her own financial situation?
posted by orange swan at 9:12 AM on September 18, 2002
posted by orange swan at 9:12 AM on September 18, 2002
Your obligatory whois lookup:
Registrant:
Penny Nickel
P.O. Box 00000
Beverly Hills, California 90210
United States
Registered through: WebSytz (http://www.websytz.com)
Domain Name: HELPMELEAVEMYHUSBAND.COM
Created on: 15-Aug-02
Expires on: 15-Aug-03
Last Updated on: 15-Aug-02
Administrative Contact:
Nickel, Penny dollars4penny@attbi.com
P.O. Box 00000
Beverly Hills, California 90210
United States 619-555-1234
Technical Contact:
Nickel, Penny dollars4penny@attbi.com
P.O. Box 00000
Beverly Hills, California 90210
United States 619-555-1234
Domain servers in listed order:
DNS1.GIGHOST.COM
DNS2.GIGHOST.COM
posted by internal at 9:19 AM on September 18, 2002
Registrant:
Penny Nickel
P.O. Box 00000
Beverly Hills, California 90210
United States
Registered through: WebSytz (http://www.websytz.com)
Domain Name: HELPMELEAVEMYHUSBAND.COM
Created on: 15-Aug-02
Expires on: 15-Aug-03
Last Updated on: 15-Aug-02
Administrative Contact:
Nickel, Penny dollars4penny@attbi.com
P.O. Box 00000
Beverly Hills, California 90210
United States 619-555-1234
Technical Contact:
Nickel, Penny dollars4penny@attbi.com
P.O. Box 00000
Beverly Hills, California 90210
United States 619-555-1234
Domain servers in listed order:
DNS1.GIGHOST.COM
DNS2.GIGHOST.COM
posted by internal at 9:19 AM on September 18, 2002
high horse, anyone?
Me, or orange swan? Look, don't get me wrong, I have never been in debt although I make $16,000/year before taxes, because I'd rather buy Old Navy jeans and cheap roadside coffee than pay interest on Prada and lattes. And I'm not interested in donating to Karyn (though I might consider buying some of her stuff). But I don't think she or Penny is a "scam." Both of them have been interviewed on radio and tv, the journalists who interviewed them are obviously satisfied that they are who and what they say they are, and beyond that their sites have a certain voyeuristic interest value that attracts MeFites and others to them, if only on a one-off basis. If a few people find the voyeurism value worth paying a few dollars for, then both they and the beneficiaries are happy. Where's the harm?
What I don't understand is why many of the critics of sites like this one seem to feel that it would be ok if she were offereing porn in exchange for their $$. This site, like porn, offers a chance to "participate" remotely in a "private" narrative starring someone they've never met. Personally I would rather pay for Penny's type of narrative than pr0n--not that I plan to spend my money on either.
posted by Raya at 9:31 AM on September 18, 2002
Me, or orange swan? Look, don't get me wrong, I have never been in debt although I make $16,000/year before taxes, because I'd rather buy Old Navy jeans and cheap roadside coffee than pay interest on Prada and lattes. And I'm not interested in donating to Karyn (though I might consider buying some of her stuff). But I don't think she or Penny is a "scam." Both of them have been interviewed on radio and tv, the journalists who interviewed them are obviously satisfied that they are who and what they say they are, and beyond that their sites have a certain voyeuristic interest value that attracts MeFites and others to them, if only on a one-off basis. If a few people find the voyeurism value worth paying a few dollars for, then both they and the beneficiaries are happy. Where's the harm?
What I don't understand is why many of the critics of sites like this one seem to feel that it would be ok if she were offereing porn in exchange for their $$. This site, like porn, offers a chance to "participate" remotely in a "private" narrative starring someone they've never met. Personally I would rather pay for Penny's type of narrative than pr0n--not that I plan to spend my money on either.
posted by Raya at 9:31 AM on September 18, 2002
Penny Nickel.
*mad cackling laughter*
Maybe she should try stand-up comedy.
posted by mr_crash_davis at 10:24 AM on September 18, 2002
*mad cackling laughter*
Maybe she should try stand-up comedy.
posted by mr_crash_davis at 10:24 AM on September 18, 2002
Penny Nickel's site doesn't make me angry or disgusted nearly so much as it makes me feel bad for her. She's so incredibly lucky, and apparently doesn't realize it. Yes, yes, I know, she isn't forcing us to look at her site or send her money, but the fact is she did go to all the trouble to register a domain name and create a website detailing her life story and her predicament and asking for donations from total strangers who happen upon her site. She puts it out there for the world to see, and therefore invites a reaction, good or bad. My reaction to it is, as I said, of sadness. The time it took to create this website could have been better spent quietly reflecting on the wonderful things she has that other people don't have, and learning to appreciate them. She has a home. She has (apparently) healthy children. She's healthy. She has food. [She has coupons to buy food at a discount.] She has the opportunity to go to school. She has the ability to send her son to school. She has a life partner who cares for her. The list goes on and on. That she doesn't realize how absolutely lucky she is, how blessed she is, and how deeply she should be ashamed to ask for anything, even, ahem, a nickel, is very sad, indeed. Do I look down on her or think she's bad? No, not at all. I feel sad for her that she thinks what she needs is a college degree. She has everything she needs.
posted by Zulujines at 12:17 PM on September 18, 2002
posted by Zulujines at 12:17 PM on September 18, 2002
Sure, except that she's getting a divorce from said life partner because they fight all the time and doesn't have any kind of career lined up to pay the bills and give her a reason to get out of bed in the morning. She has a right to go to school and become a professional, and you have a right not to pay for it if you think she should be satisfied with motherhood as a career.
posted by Raya at 12:56 PM on September 18, 2002
posted by Raya at 12:56 PM on September 18, 2002
That said, I agree that she seems to have many blessings, and I would also argue that she seems aware of this. The only thing on that whole website that had any tone of "poor me" to it was the photo--which she makes clear is purely histrionic.
posted by Raya at 12:58 PM on September 18, 2002
posted by Raya at 12:58 PM on September 18, 2002
This was my favorite line:
I fixed Megan's broken off jacket zipper pull by putting a paper clip on it! If I do say so myself, I thought that was a stroke of creative genious!
Wow! While I can think of a lot of phrases to describe her, "creative genius" is not one that springs to mind. Poor speller, on the other hand....
posted by Secret Life of Gravy at 1:13 PM on September 18, 2002
I fixed Megan's broken off jacket zipper pull by putting a paper clip on it! If I do say so myself, I thought that was a stroke of creative genious!
Wow! While I can think of a lot of phrases to describe her, "creative genius" is not one that springs to mind. Poor speller, on the other hand....
posted by Secret Life of Gravy at 1:13 PM on September 18, 2002
So let me get this straight ... when she finally gets enough to leave her husband ... she'll vibrate??
posted by WolfDaddy at 2:18 PM on September 18, 2002
posted by WolfDaddy at 2:18 PM on September 18, 2002
" So let me get this straight ... when she finally gets enough to leave her husband ... she'll vibrate??"
Frequently, I'd think. Eventually, though, she'll start to date again.
Thanks, ladies and gents! Try the veal! Drive safely!
posted by adameft at 4:07 PM on September 18, 2002
Frequently, I'd think. Eventually, though, she'll start to date again.
Thanks, ladies and gents! Try the veal! Drive safely!
posted by adameft at 4:07 PM on September 18, 2002
Raya--I agree, she doesn't sound like she's whining at all. However, if she knew she had many blessings, I doubt she'd be trying to secure donations from ordinary people (a lot of whom have *much* less than she does) to fund her college education. I could see if she was asking for loans which she would pay back upon starting her new career; as she said on her website, nurses are in demand, and nurses do make a decent amount of money.
As far as her life partner, but her own admission he's a "great guy" who is in the military and is often away from home. In addition, he's agreed to stay with her to pay for her education while she goes to college, and they've decided to split on amicable terms. Not a bad deal at all, it would seem.
And I never said she didn't have a right to go to school or that she should be satisfied with being a homemaker. I just said she has it good now, and has a lot more going for her than other women in similar predicaments. She has the luxury of taking her time to complete her courses without having to work, and since her two daughters are both in school, she has free, uninterrupted time to study each day. What will she do when she has to work a full-time job as an LPN? Nursing is a mentally, emotionally, and physically exhausting job...how will she cope with life then?
posted by Zulujines at 4:34 PM on September 18, 2002
As far as her life partner, but her own admission he's a "great guy" who is in the military and is often away from home. In addition, he's agreed to stay with her to pay for her education while she goes to college, and they've decided to split on amicable terms. Not a bad deal at all, it would seem.
And I never said she didn't have a right to go to school or that she should be satisfied with being a homemaker. I just said she has it good now, and has a lot more going for her than other women in similar predicaments. She has the luxury of taking her time to complete her courses without having to work, and since her two daughters are both in school, she has free, uninterrupted time to study each day. What will she do when she has to work a full-time job as an LPN? Nursing is a mentally, emotionally, and physically exhausting job...how will she cope with life then?
posted by Zulujines at 4:34 PM on September 18, 2002
Well, DollarsForDejah is still available...now all I need is a gimmick...
posted by dejah420 at 5:37 PM on September 18, 2002
posted by dejah420 at 5:37 PM on September 18, 2002
How 'bout "DollarsforDiapersforDejah"? That's an enterprise that will need some cash infusions before long, right?
posted by mr_crash_davis at 5:50 PM on September 18, 2002
posted by mr_crash_davis at 5:50 PM on September 18, 2002
Heheheh, yeah...but what's the selling point for the giver. Nobody wants a used diaper. ;)
Oh, wait...I keep missing the point...the people who donate don't get anything in return. And somehow that works? Wow. ;) People never cease to amaze me.
posted by dejah420 at 9:51 PM on September 18, 2002
Oh, wait...I keep missing the point...the people who donate don't get anything in return. And somehow that works? Wow. ;) People never cease to amaze me.
posted by dejah420 at 9:51 PM on September 18, 2002
In other news: the guy who wanted, uh, needed a bmw has achieved his goal and would like to thank us all.
posted by NekulturnY at 8:59 AM on September 19, 2002
posted by NekulturnY at 8:59 AM on September 19, 2002
Help Us Buy A House!
As you may know, buying a house is expensive... Your picture and name will be added to a wall in the house, which will be the "friends of the family" wall.
posted by Wet Spot at 3:36 PM on September 19, 2002
As you may know, buying a house is expensive... Your picture and name will be added to a wall in the house, which will be the "friends of the family" wall.
posted by Wet Spot at 3:36 PM on September 19, 2002
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Personally, if I want to support any website asking for money it will be Modest Needs. Who will be next in the 'donate to me' now realm?
posted by SuzySmith at 3:45 AM on September 18, 2002