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	<title>Comments on: Comments on 20223</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 22 Sep 2002 18:54:19 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Post number 20223</title>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.boston.com/dailynews/265/nation/William_Rosenberg_founder_of_c:.shtml"&gt;Dunkin&apos; Donuts founder passes on -&lt;/a&gt; From a single shop in Quincy, Mass. to over 5000 stores around the globe, William Rosenberg created what is probably world&apos;s most recognizable donut and coffee chain. (Well, maybe that&apos;s because I live in New England, where there&apos;s always a DD location within a block radius.) Rosenberg was 86.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Sep 2002 18:15:45 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ChrisTN</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20223/#350383</link>	
		<description>The first time I ever visited Boston, I was blown away by the sheer number of DDs.  My friends (and impromptu tour guides) got tired of me shouting out &quot;Damn, there&apos;s another one!&quot; every couple of blocks.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Sep 2002 18:54:19 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: eddydamascene</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20223/#350392</link>	
		<description>If it wasn&apos;t for Dunkin&apos; Donuts, how else would you know where the party at?</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Sep 2002 19:26:39 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Dark Messiah</title>
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		<description>Sounds like DD is to New England, what Timmy Hortons is to Ottawa. There&apos;s two of them within, literally, 100 feet of each other.

Even the most disgusting of donut addicts can&apos;t be in need of a donut fix every hundred feet. (I&apos;d hope.)</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Sep 2002 19:27:28 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Dark Messiah</title>
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		<description>Ugh. &quot;Timmy Hortons&quot;, way to go...

That&apos;d be TIM HORTON&apos;S.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Sep 2002 19:28:14 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: quonsar</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20223/#350404</link>	
		<description>law enforcement across the nation will be observing a half-dozen glazed moments of silence.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Sep 2002 19:39:46 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: majick</title>
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		<description>So this chain is sort of the east coast equivalent of Starbucks -- one or two on every urban block and then a few more just for branding purposes?

I thought Dunkin&apos; Donuts was one of those dead brands, like A&amp;amp;W restaurants: faded signs from old shops that have since been abandoned or turned into Korean sandwich joints.  I had no idea they were still around.  Hrmph, just goes to show you my provincial ignorance!</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Sep 2002 19:40:30 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: eddydamascene</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20223/#350409</link>	
		<description>The store locator told me that a DD opened in Sacramento this summer.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Sep 2002 19:51:23 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: hotdoughnutsnow</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20223/#350413</link>	
		<description>This is sad.

If you ask me, which you didn&apos;t, Krispy Kreme makes a better &lt;b&gt;dough&lt;/b&gt;nut, but I bet you would expect me to say that.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Sep 2002 20:01:24 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: hilatron</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20223/#350414</link>	
		<description>Damn, there&apos;s a part of the US where DD &lt;i&gt;isn&apos;t&lt;/i&gt; ubiquitous?  From my current location just outside Boston, I am within easy walking distance of four branches.  And keep in mind that I moved here recently, so there may be as-yet undiscovered donut havens in my immediate vicinity.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Sep 2002 20:04:20 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: 327.ca</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20223/#350458</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;That&apos;d be TIM HORTON&apos;S.&lt;/i&gt;

Uhh, that&apos;d be &quot;Tim Hortons&quot; (no apostrophe). Don&apos;t believe me? Check for yourself. I don&apos;t know why they changed the spelling...</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Sep 2002 22:21:26 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: kindall</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20223/#350466</link>	
		<description>There are three or four Dunkin Donuts in all of the Seattle area (just one within the city limits). There&apos;s at least one place that obviously used to be a Dunkin (Aurora Donuts), though. This just isn&apos;t a donut town for some reason.

They are pretty common in the midwest, but even I was impressed with their density in New England.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Sep 2002 22:39:13 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: aenemated</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20223/#350472</link>	
		<description>yeah, krispy kreme is definitely better. 

oh those late college nights, stoned to bejeezus and sitting at krispy kreme.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Sep 2002 22:54:21 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Miss Beth</title>
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		<description>Krispy Kreme IS NOT better.  I grew up in New England, and even worked at a DD when I was in college.  Now I live in Virginia, I think there&apos;s like one DD, and tons Of KK.  It&apos;s just not the same.  The coffee isn&apos;t as good, and KK doesn&apos;t have cookies or bagles.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Sep 2002 04:11:01 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Hall</title>
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		<description>Coming from Atlanta, I will say that Krispy Kreme has better donuts but as a new citizen of Boston, I have to add that Dunkin Donuts must own half of the land in Massachusetts.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Sep 2002 04:24:31 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: benjh</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20223/#350560</link>	
		<description>Actually, the best doughnut can probably be purchased at your local bakery. They tend to be larger, higher quality, and usually around the same price.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Sep 2002 06:14:34 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: grrarrgh00</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20223/#350564</link>	
		<description>Since I work right by the DD in Cambridge, MA at various ass-crack-of-dawn hours many mornings each week, I have gone there on different days at a wide range of times between 5 a.m. and 7 a.m.  I have never gotten a fresh donut (and yes, I also go during normal hours sometimes, with the same result).  How can they really &lt;i&gt;never&lt;/i&gt; have fresh donuts?  Or maybe their just-baked donuts just &lt;i&gt;taste&lt;/i&gt; stale?  Whatever.  There&apos;s really no comparison between DD and KK.  Krispy Kreme is transcendent.  And while I&apos;m sad that Mr. Dunkin has left us, I wish his giant donut franchise would be replaced by a better giant donut franchise.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Sep 2002 06:25:58 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: FullFrontalNerdity</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20223/#350574</link>	
		<description>Believe it or not, DD is not ubiquitous in most of the US.  I was born in Boston where DD is everywhere.  In 1976/1977 my father was a student at DDU (Yes, Dunkin Donuts University), by late 1977 my parents opened a DD franchise in Houston, TX.  At the time there were only a handful (10?) of DD in the whole city of Houston, you were more likely to find a Shipley&apos;s Donuts than DD.  

This whole thread brings back fond memories of &quot;Hot &amp;amp; Fresh Now!&quot; long before I ever had a Krispy Kreme.  Somewhere I have pictures of the big tubs of jelly filling and the large table that had a vat filled with the glaze with racks of warm donuts sitting above the vat, dripping their gooey goodness as they dried.... Of course, I also have memories of delivering 100 dozen donuts to the state penitentiary in Huntsville, TX and sleeping on 50 lb. bags of donut flour while my parents worked their tails off... and putting my foot through the top of a 5 gallon bucket filled with the base for chocolate frosted donuts... 

Those were the days!</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Sep 2002 06:51:34 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: briank</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20223/#350577</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;the DD in Cambridge, MA&lt;/i&gt;

Care to be specific about which one?  There are 10 Dunkin Donuts in Cambridge.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Sep 2002 06:54:01 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Dark Messiah</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20223/#350579</link>	
		<description>Whoever said A&amp;amp;W is dead, is wrong. They&apos;re going fairly strong in Canada. They&apos;ve even renovated all the ones in the malls near my house.

They do good business too. Crap places to work, mind you.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Sep 2002 06:55:54 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dr_dank</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20223/#350582</link>	
		<description>Time to dig the gra^H^H^H make the donuts.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Sep 2002 07:02:55 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: picea</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20223/#350592</link>	
		<description>I think there&apos;s only one Dunkin&apos; Donuts left in Austin. It&apos;s hard to find a good doughnut in this town. I prefer Dunkin&apos; Donuts&apos; wares over the Krispy Kreme variety (except for the hot glazed). The DD doughnuts are just bigger and thicker compared to the KK versions.

I miss Tim Hortons&apos; boston creams. Now there&apos;s a doughnut!</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Sep 2002 07:18:47 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Turd Ferguson</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20223/#350619</link>	
		<description>grrarrgh00 -- If you&apos;re talking about the DD in Central Square, I&apos;m with you. I did get a fresh doughnut there once -- once. I gave up after a while.

And P.S., DD&apos;s coffee sucks. I&apos;d get a doughnut from DD, then a coffee from the Starbucks across the street (even though it was staffed by a bunch of mouth-breathing troglodytes).</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Sep 2002 07:56:41 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: brent</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20223/#350657</link>	
		<description>Doughnuts. Is there anything they can&apos;t do? --Homer Simpson.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Sep 2002 08:34:44 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: thewittyname</title>
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		<description>I was blown away, like many others in this thread, at the sheer dominance of Dunkin&apos; Doughnuts here in Boston.  Up until a few months ago, they must of had a doughnut monopoly in this city, but I think a Krispy Kreme just recently opened up somewhere around Boston.  

Hand in hand with this is the surprising lack of Starbucks here (although they certainly are not impossible to find).  Almost all the locals I have met here refuse to drink Starbucks, seeing it as some yuppie pretender to the DD Coffee Throne.  To people here, Dunkin Doughnuts is the Coffee of the Working Man&lt;sup&gt;&lt;small&gt;TM&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;

That being said, I like Munchkins, but I would kill for some Shipley&apos;s Doughnuts from Houston.  No stale DD crap, and no frosted boat anchors from KK for me.  If you are in Houston, try them, they are great.  Light and fluffy.  

FYI:  My girlfriend says that DD in the Philippines taste completely different.  The doughnuts there are very light and flaky....if you care.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Sep 2002 09:48:36 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: lupus_yonderboy</title>
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		<description>Sure, building a huge chain of doughnut franchises is impressive and all, but Tim Horton did it &lt;b&gt;after he was dead&lt;/b&gt;.

(Background for non-&apos;nucks: Tim Horton was a star hockey player who bought a doughnut shop shortly before he retired. Well, he bought it shortly before he tied a couple too many on and wrapped his car around a light pole on the highway from Toronto to Buffalo.)

I suspect that Timmy&apos;s holds as high or higher a place in local consciousness as DD in the NE. In Ontario, at least, it is probably the dominant public environment everywhere outside Toronto. (And, fittingly, Hortons long ago ceased to be a Canadian corporation and is in fact owned by Ohio-based Wendy&apos;s.)</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Sep 2002 10:53:52 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: grrarrgh00</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20223/#350829</link>	
		<description>By the way, mine is the Porter Square Dunkin Donuts.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Sep 2002 11:28:48 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: briank</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20223/#350843</link>	
		<description>KK hasn&apos;t opened in Boston yet.  They just got the necessary zoning clearance to install a drive-thru at their chosen location -- the former Bickford&apos;s restaurant near the Wellington T station in Medford.  They&apos;re expected to open before the end of the year.

(P.S. Medford has 12 DD locations)</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Sep 2002 11:39:31 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: f00b4r</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20223/#350972</link>	
		<description>There used to be 1 Dunken Donuts close to my place of residence in Austin, Texas. A few months ago (or more) it went away. I was sad to see it go. I love their coffee rolls.

KK kinda sucks I think. They donuts are too freakin sweat. They are like double glazed or something (yes, even over the chocolate stuff).</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Sep 2002 14:35:17 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: five fresh fish</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20223/#351096</link>	
		<description>I can report that Tim&apos;s is ubiquitous across the prairies and into BC.  There&apos;s at least one in every town.  Can&apos;t stand the place, myself.
 
My guess as to the removal of the apostrophe: it was for the Quebecois language fascists.
 
A&amp;amp;W is going strong like gangbusters in BC, and their employees seem *delighted* to be of service.  I think that, at least in this province, they&apos;re being treated really well.
 
The burgers would be good, if it weren&apos;t for being so damn salty.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Sep 2002 19:16:20 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jimmy Olsen</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20223/#351239</link>	
		<description>Want to hear something really sad?  In the town I live in, in Alabama, there&apos;s neither a Dunkin&apos; Donuts OR a Krispy Kreme...the Krispy Kremes you can get boxed at the grocery (glazed and a couple other flavors) and several others can be had at a local quicky-mart-type gas station from a special display, but NEITHER has an actual store where you can buy them fresh.  Sucks, as I really loved Dunkin&apos; Donuts back when I lived in Michigan.  There&apos;s one in Huntsville but I&apos;m not about to drive for an hour everytime I want a Dunkin&apos; Donut.  Oh, if you&apos;re not about to cry already - I can&apos;t get cable or DSL either.  HELP!!!!</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Sep 2002 02:01:29 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: kid_twist</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20223/#355198</link>	
		<description>mmm, dd. 
KK are to doughnuts as Wonderbread is to bread.
these are not things that should stick to the roof of your mouth.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Sep 2002 11:03:38 -0800</pubDate>
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