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Post number 20338

subpixel — Thu, 26 Sep 2002 11:40:43 -0800

cool or creepy? apple is hyping the way forensic detectives in a southern town have gone mac. are we supposed to focus on the guy with the ipod or the corpse on his screen?

By: interrobang

interrobang — Thu, 26 Sep 2002 11:46:20 -0800

I think the "please kill me" look on his face is the creepy part.

By: falameufilho

falameufilho — Thu, 26 Sep 2002 11:46:21 -0800

Forensic photographer Gary Knight listens to music on his iPod as he organizes CCBI's crime scene photos. How is that supposed to help boost Apple's sales? I'd love to check out his playlist, BTW.

By: byort

byort — Thu, 26 Sep 2002 11:50:20 -0800

Isn't that Ellen Feiss?

By: phidauex

phidauex — Thu, 26 Sep 2002 11:55:39 -0800

Definately creepy... Though if you are going to look at images of dead people all day, at least you can do it on a crisp colorful stylish cinema display! The other nice thing about Apples is that all the smooth polycarbonate plastic is much easier to clean blood off of than the bumpy beige plastic of PCs, which seems to take more work to clean. And when my ipod has blood all over it, the last thing I want to be doing is scrubbing, I want to wipe it clean, and get back to my showtunes!

By: maudlin

maudlin — Thu, 26 Sep 2002 11:56:01 -0800

And who's the dead guy in the ditch? Some dude who wouldn't think different? Definitely creepy.

By: mr_crash_davis

mr_crash_davis — Thu, 26 Sep 2002 11:57:17 -0800

Wait a minute. This apple...it vibrates?

By: Dark Messiah

Dark Messiah — Thu, 26 Sep 2002 11:58:24 -0800

Personally, I find this hysterical. This is an ad campaign I'd devise just to see if the suits would buy it. Besides, that guy clearly does think different.

By: phong3d

phong3d — Thu, 26 Sep 2002 11:58:52 -0800

I'd love to check out his playlist, BTW. Lots of Nick Cave. Well, either that or ABBA.

By: ColdChef

ColdChef — Thu, 26 Sep 2002 11:59:12 -0800

He's listening to the Grateful Dead.

By: gottabefunky

gottabefunky — Thu, 26 Sep 2002 12:04:26 -0800

I say Tom Waits. Or these guys. Or maybe them. Or. . .

By: machaus

machaus — Thu, 26 Sep 2002 12:15:43 -0800

I'd love to see them plug in their digital camera full of gruesome pics, watch iPhoto import them all automatically and then pop up a cheerful dialog box that says: "Would you like to email these to your friends?"

By: soundofsuburbia

soundofsuburbia — Thu, 26 Sep 2002 12:18:20 -0800

I bet these are what he's listening to.

By: o2b

o2b — Thu, 26 Sep 2002 12:18:22 -0800

Gruesomeness aside, it seems to be a really good fit: Transitioning from the expensive analog photography techniques to the less-expensive digital ones will save a lot of money.

By: damclean2

damclean2 — Thu, 26 Sep 2002 12:44:19 -0800

"Would you like to email these to your friends?" Or better yet: "Would you like to make a hard-cover book?"

By: proof_nc

proof_nc — Thu, 26 Sep 2002 12:49:35 -0800

interesting since i recognize the crime scene in the lower photo, infact i pan on going to a show this evening a stones throw from the dead body. wonder when it happened? creepy yet cool since it is so wierd. and of course who realy cares anyways.

By: liam

liam — Thu, 26 Sep 2002 12:57:17 -0800

This reminds me of a scene in the film "Mad Dog & Glory", where Robert De Niro's cop plays the song "A White Sports Coat and A Pink Carnation" on a bar jukebox while examining a corpse.

By: interrobang

interrobang — Thu, 26 Sep 2002 13:08:05 -0800

interesting since i recognize the crime scene in the lower photo, infact i pan on going to a show this evening a stones throw from the dead body. wonder when it happened? I think you already know, little camper.

By: gottabefunky

gottabefunky — Thu, 26 Sep 2002 13:17:41 -0800

Ooh, you've been little-campered

By: mss

mss — Thu, 26 Sep 2002 13:30:43 -0800

I never knew that bodies ended up exactly like the tape outlines in every drawing of tape outlines I have ever seen.

By: fatbobsmith

fatbobsmith — Thu, 26 Sep 2002 13:34:33 -0800

Wow. I used to sell forensic equipment until I got out of that business...to sell Mac's. That's just plain wierd.

By: rexgregbr

rexgregbr — Thu, 26 Sep 2002 13:34:36 -0800

liam:This reminds me of a scene in the film "Mad Dog & Glory", where Robert De Niro's cop plays the song "A White Sports Coat and A Pink Carnation" on a bar jukebox while examining a corpse. I watched this movie again last week and I'm pretty sure that it was "Just a Gigolo (ain't' got nobody)" performed by Louis Prima. But it was a good call, anyway...

By: joaquim

joaquim — Thu, 26 Sep 2002 15:18:13 -0800

interesting since i recognize the crime scene in the lower photo, infact i pan on going to a show this evening a stones throw from the dead body. wonder when it happened? That photo looks staged. Why would you take a crime scene photo of some policeman kneeling over the body with flashlight? Wouldn't you want photos of the area before it's been disturbed? (Maybe he's the suspect and they caught him redhanded?)

By: mediareport

mediareport — Thu, 26 Sep 2002 17:11:57 -0800

Interesting that the forensics folks had to get the state Attorney General to write a letter assuring local district attorneys that manipulation of digital images wasn't any more of a problem than manipulation of "regular" photos. Btw, the "southern town" under discussion happens to be Raleigh, NC - the state capital. Hi, proof_nc :)

By: nicwolff

nicwolff — Thu, 26 Sep 2002 17:43:13 -0800

I think it's cool — but then, for my birthday my girlfriend gave me a drawing she did of a polar bear gnawing on a child's severed arm. (I met her when I bought her painting of three sea birds roosting on a floating corpse.) So maybe I'm not the best judge.

By: liam

liam — Thu, 26 Sep 2002 17:52:00 -0800

Thanks, revgregbr. I always liked that scene, and have been misremembering it all along. I should watch the movie again too.

By: Secret Life of Gravy

Secret Life of Gravy — Thu, 26 Sep 2002 19:00:25 -0800

~takes another look at the article after hearing "Raleigh"~ By Golly, you're right...it says Wake County. Gee that looks a little like that creepy motel over by the dog food factory. It is strange how the science of forensics has become so popular in the last few years. First there was the murder-solved-by-pathologist series of books by Patricia Cornwall, then the Autopsy series on HBO, Forensic Files on Court TV, CSI on CBS, etc. Why has this particular aspect of crime solving become so culturally pervasive?

By: steviehero

steviehero — Thu, 26 Sep 2002 20:01:57 -0800

Why has this particular aspect of crime solving become so culturally pervasive? Has to do with the fact that it involves both grisly images and neato technology. I have to say, I find the science side of it just darn interesting. But then I was a PBS science show child, weaned on Cosmos and Nova.

By: complex

complex — Thu, 26 Sep 2002 21:04:11 -0800

i don't care either way. what i want to know is how he convinced his boss to ok the ipod purchase. i'm trying to score some new gear at work. i like watching csi. and macs really are good at working wiht photos. i've heard stories of people switching to macs just so they can use iphoto, which is apparently best of breed software. i like it but i don't take enough pictures to love it.

By: hoborg

hoborg — Fri, 27 Sep 2002 10:57:57 -0800

Man, this thread has me dying of laughter. [rimshot] Just WHO is doing these ad campaigns for Apple?First, "Feisty Fleiss" and now "Creepiest/Nerdiest Detective Alive". I never really had much doubt as to who Apple was targeting with their stuff. Now, I'm absolutely convinced. Seriously, though, for those of you who are actually concerned with the security/legal aspects of this new development [another rimshot], my thinking is that the security of those images is just not up to scratch. Maybe I've read Rising Sun too many times or something, but isn't photographic evidence suspect anyway, regardless of what it is used for?

By: mediareport

mediareport — Fri, 27 Sep 2002 14:59:27 -0800

isn't photographic evidence suspect anyway, regardless of what it is used for? The article discusses that: Compared with, say, a weapon, which is considered substantive evidence, a photograph is considered by law as illustrative evidence. "All of our crime scene photographs are used to illustrate an officer's testimony that the photograph truly and actually represents the scene," says Knight. This kind of indirect, supporting evidence does not carry the same weight as direct evidence and therefore it can be handled differently.

By: mediareport

mediareport — Fri, 27 Sep 2002 15:01:44 -0800

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By: adamgreenfield

adamgreenfield — Sat, 28 Sep 2002 04:35:38 -0800

All I can say is, I sure *would* be worried if juries are composed of people like those among my fellow MeFites, who are neither (a) capable of recognizing the hallmarks of a blatantly-staged photograph; nor (b) using the common sense (aka "bullshit detector") they're equipped with by birthright. Which should be telling them that Apple, or any company, is certainly *not* going to use an actual, human victim of what is apparently death by misadenture, at the very least, in their advertising. Not in our litigious age, no sirree.