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		<title>Post number 20575</title>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.randyjanson.com/html/pp100.html&quot;&gt;Portrait&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tattoo-nightliner.de/galerie/portraits/&quot;&gt;tattoos&lt;/a&gt; have a long &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/m/l/mlh249/tattoos/&quot;&gt;history in tattoo art.&lt;/a&gt;  Some believe that wearing an image calls the spirit of that image. With this in mind, it is both &lt;a href=&quot;http://weirdal.0catch.com/tattoo/dave52.jpg&quot;&gt;amusing&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.starlighttattoo.com/gallery/portrait/7.shtml&quot;&gt;baffling&lt;/a&gt; to see the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.meetgypsy.com/tattoo.html&quot;&gt;cast&lt;/a&gt; of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tattoosbyrick.com/gallery/portraits/portrait1.jpg&quot;&gt;characters&lt;/a&gt; that people &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.disneytattooguy.com/george.htm&quot;&gt;choose&lt;/a&gt; to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.artthrob.com/eva/portraits/html/eva_phoenix-portraits-06.html&quot;&gt;immortalize.&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt;OK, chances are you never would, but if you simply had to make a decision about having someone&apos;s portrait tattooed on your body, whose spirit would you choose to call up? </description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Oct 2002 12:24:16 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: majick</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20575/#360184</link>	
		<description>It&apos;s purely a matter of personal taste, but I have always found most tattoo portraiture to be visually unappealing.  There are exceptions -- I have seen beautifully executed portraits, but I cannot for the life of me understand why someone would want them to become part of the body.  Oddly enough, I hold plenty of other tattoo art in high esteem.  Go figure.</description>
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		<title>By: Berend</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20575/#360187</link>	
		<description>Wow, I never realized Marylin had that many &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.artthrob.com/eva/portraits/html/eva_phoenix-portraits-06.html&quot;&gt;pimples&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Oct 2002 12:49:34 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: amberglow</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20575/#360190</link>	
		<description>marilyn looks like she has chicken pox, but I love these-they&apos;re so much more meaningful than an abstract tribal or celtic linking pattern. Great links!

I&apos;m retarded, but I want a small portrait of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.toonarific.com/h/HrPuffNStuff-pics.html&quot;&gt;this guy.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Oct 2002 12:52:03 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: kozad</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20575/#360191</link>	
		<description>You.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Oct 2002 12:52:56 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: bradth27</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20575/#360192</link>	
		<description>I don&apos;t think I would ever get one, unless my wife would let me tattoo my ex-wife on my left buttock.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Oct 2002 12:53:03 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: babylon</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20575/#360193</link>	
		<description>Hrm.  I&apos;m with majick on this one -- I&apos;m not big on the tattoo portraits.  I&apos;ve got a sacred heart and a pinup girl already, and the latter is about as close as I&apos;ll ever get to a portrait.

That said, at gunpoint, whose spirit? That&apos;s a tough one.  First thing that comes to mind, oddly, is the Venus of Willendorf (did I spell that correctly?) but I think I&apos;d be much, much more likely to go for the Virgin Mary (I have a thing for Catholic iconography) -- I&apos;d actually prefer Mary Magdelen, but that wouldn&apos;t really be a recognizable portrait -- I sure wouldn&apos;t know a picture of her if it bit me on the bottom.

Is there a spirit representation of Saint StopMyComputerFromScrewingUp?</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Oct 2002 12:55:18 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: bradth27</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20575/#360203</link>	
		<description>Babylon-
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.catholic-forum.com/saints/sainti04.htm&quot;&gt;well, yeah, sort of. &lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Oct 2002 13:25:23 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: lsd4all</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20575/#360215</link>	
		<description>What a great assortment of American icons. James Dean, Marilyn Monroe, Elvis, Jimi Hendrix, William S. Burroughs......WTF?! Darth Maul? I thought it was against the law to give a tattoo to someone intoxicated.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Oct 2002 14:00:40 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: imaswinger</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20575/#360218</link>	
		<description>Speaking of different icons... my buddy has a Sammy Davis Jr on his leg (he&apos;s kickin&apos; it with a drink and smoke - classic Sammy) and he&apos;s getting a John Candy (probably J la Rue) sometime soon.  They make a nice addition to the Jesus and angels and what-not...  Me? I&apos;ve got a hendrix on my shoulder - not sure if I&apos;d get more portraits, when it comes to tattoos you never know!</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Oct 2002 14:04:47 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: oflinkey</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20575/#360258</link>	
		<description>My husband has Barney Rubble playing a guitar on his right shoulder.  He looks somewhat like Barney Rubble (we have Flintstone&apos;s paraphernalia all over the house) and would like to have this &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.genesis-music.com/trick1.htm&quot;&gt;nurse&lt;/a&gt;, from Genesis&apos; _A Trick of the Tail_ (picture is small-sorry) on his arm.  As far as I am concerned, I always liked the pinup girl idea, although I have all abstract celtic designs.  I half considered &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.homestarrunner.com/&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; for a drunken moment at some recent point...
I do know a man who had his baby daughter&apos;s 1 year-old portrait put on his arm.  She died when she was about 3, so I am guessing that is why he did it.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Oct 2002 15:45:12 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: t r a c y</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20575/#360267</link>	
		<description>this pic of &lt;a href=&quot;http://katgyrl.com/tygrrrheart/sm/bigtyg.jpg&quot;&gt;my cat&lt;/a&gt;,  on my upper back, left shoulder area.  it will be done so it&apos;s fairly opaque, the colours won&apos;t be as strong (and without the blk bground of course), sort of faded.  it&apos;s going to be my first and only. the guy who&apos;ll be doing it is unbelievably good, i&apos;ve watched his work on various friends and relatives for about 15 years... from way back when my b/f at the time stupidly had my face tattooed on his upper arm.  nice for the girl he married years later, doh. 

it&apos;s disturbing when a person has what i think is too big a tat or too many of them tho&apos;.  sometimes it seems like an addiction, or a way of hiding.  i knew a boy once who was clearly and admittedly covering himself up out of self loathing.  it&apos;s a tad scary when someone has more tat than natural skin, yikes.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Oct 2002 16:11:58 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Secret Life of Gravy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20575/#360280</link>	
		<description>Ever since I first met him, the partner has been talking about getting a head of Frankenstein on his shoulder.  I think it would be cool, but since neither of us can commit to a bumper sticker for the car, I don&apos;t see this ever happening.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Oct 2002 16:59:24 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: biscotti</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20575/#360281</link>	
		<description>I think the shoulderblade ones are okay (I love the Hendrix one), but I wonder what the ones on arms and chests are going to look like in a few years when the skin they&apos;re on is all saggy and wrinkly.   I like t r a c y&apos;s idea, if I were to ever get one, it&apos;d be one of my favourite cat.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Oct 2002 17:06:03 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Dark Messiah</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20575/#360285</link>	
		<description>Speaking as someone with a tattoo, and plans for more, I really enjoy seeing tattoos; of any kind. The fact someone decided to have a particular image painted, permanently on their body speaks volumes about this person. It&apos;s almost like a loose underground culture. There&apos;s no secret meetings of the tattooed society or anything, but it gives insight into a whole other mindset.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://ros.stepzero.org/images/tdm-tattoo01.jpg&quot;&gt;A picture of my inner forearm tattoo&lt;/a&gt;. (I added some smudges for no real reason other than to hide the terrible hairiness of my arms.) ... :)

To me, it&apos;s all about symbolism. You&apos;ve endured this pain to keep this indelible mark; a picture that you want someone to see. (There&apos;s the personal aesthetic joy too, don&apos;t get me wrong.) It&apos;s impossible to explain really, the compulsion to get a tattoo. But, if you&apos;re serious about it, then it is a serious, almost soul-searching decision.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Oct 2002 17:16:30 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Dark Messiah</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20575/#360286</link>	
		<description>Note: &quot;added smudges...&quot; to the .jpg image. I&apos;m not that vain.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Oct 2002 17:17:37 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jodic</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20575/#360295</link>	
		<description>I&apos;ve got the Superman S tattooed on my chest-- had it done when I was 23 to remind me that I&apos;m super.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Oct 2002 17:46:25 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: HTuttle</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20575/#360311</link>	
		<description>I have a tatoo of my face tatooed on my face...only thing...noone can tell!</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Oct 2002 18:59:08 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: azimuth</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20575/#360321</link>	
		<description>Nightliner Tattoo (madamjujujive&apos;s 2nd link) also has some great &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tattoo-nightliner.de/galerie/biomechanik/&quot;&gt;biomechanical&lt;/a&gt; tattoos.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Oct 2002 19:37:34 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Tarrama</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20575/#360324</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;It&apos;s impossible to explain really, the compulsion to get a tattoo.&lt;/i&gt;Or the compulsion to get more than one.  I spent ages designing the small tattoo I have on the inside of my wrist and I love it, but after I got it I understood for the first time, why people can end up with so many. Tattoos seem to be almost addictive in some way.  I don&apos;t mind portraits on other people but really prefer the more symbolic designs.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Oct 2002 19:40:04 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Danelope</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20575/#360342</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tattoo-nightliner.de/galerie/biomechanik/biofan1.jpg&quot;&gt;Wow&lt;/a&gt;. That&apos;s...amazing!

I don&apos;t think I could ever commit to having a tattoo, though I&apos;ve considered it in the past.  Comes with being a perfectionist, I suppose, in that I&apos;m never wholly content with the things I create once they&apos;re complete.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Oct 2002 21:08:00 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dogwalker</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20575/#360344</link>	
		<description>i probably wouldn&apos;t ever consider getting a portrait of an actual person. mainly because i wouldn&apos;t feel comfortable with someone getting a portrait of me tattooed on them. it just seems weird. 

however, something portrait style of a fictional character isn&apos;t as cut and dry. like the jack nicholson from the shining in the first link. sure it&apos;s jack nicholson, but it&apos;s also the character created by king and iconized (?) by kubrick. and nicholson has to be prepared for that type of idolization.

personally, none of my 3 tattoos so far are portrait style. but my next one will probably be a portrait of frank from donnie darko. the drawing donnie does and puts on his calendar. fictional character, but not human-looking.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Oct 2002 21:50:49 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mhjb</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20575/#360365</link>	
		<description>thanks oflinkey for reminding me of my favourite record cover of all time.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Oct 2002 23:31:04 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ig</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20575/#360377</link>	
		<description>Our friend &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.lost.art.br/tattoog02.htm&quot;&gt;Alem&amp;atilde;o&lt;/a&gt; 
  has a few De Niros, a Salvador Dali, his daughter, and others... And &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.lost.art.br/tattoog00.htm&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; 
  guy I photographed in Sturgis has Jim Morrison, John Lennon, and Jimi Hendrix. 
  [self-linking bastard!]&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Oct 2002 01:09:39 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: madamjujujive</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20575/#360410</link>	
		<description>ig, your photos are stunning! I found &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.lost.art.br/tatoopg.htm&quot;&gt;this link&lt;/a&gt; among my bookmarks last night and thought it would make a good addition to the thread. But I was too sleepy to post it so I set it aside for the morning. I was surprised and pleased to see the coincidence of your post!  I must say that &lt;/a&gt;Lost Art&lt;/a&gt; is an absolute gem of a site and one I&apos;ve admired for some time - it&apos;s nice to have the opportunity to tell you that in person.  Thanks! 

On another note - for aficionados of portraits and other tattoo styles, Skin &amp;amp; Ink has a fascinating section of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.skinandink.com/readers_photos/readers_photos.html&quot;&gt;readers&apos; photos&lt;/a&gt; that runs the gamut.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Oct 2002 06:41:48 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: geekyguy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20575/#360422</link>	
		<description>For a pretty extensive showing of tattoos take a look at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bmezine.com/&quot;&gt;BMEzine&lt;/a&gt;, a pretty comprehensive body mod site, including these &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bmezine.com/tattoo/geek1.html&quot;&gt;geek&lt;/a&gt; tattoos.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Oct 2002 07:18:32 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jodic</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20575/#360463</link>	
		<description>When one decides to get a tattoo of Uncle Fester I wonder how one comes to the decision to get Uncle Fester as portrayed by Christopher Lloyd instead of the other Uncle Festerguy from the Addams Family.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Oct 2002 09:25:21 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jennak</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20575/#360483</link>	
		<description>Definitely Frida Kahlo&apos;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.artchive.com/artchive/K/kahlo/kahlo_selfmonkey.jpg.html&quot;&gt;Self-Portrait with Monkey&lt;/a&gt;.  What a tremendous spirit she was.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Oct 2002 10:26:17 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mars Saxman</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20575/#360516</link>	
		<description>I definitely wouldn&apos;t choose to get someone&apos;s face as a tattoo, but if forced at gunpoint it would probably be &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.probertencyclopaedia.com/j/Charles%20Darwin.jpg&quot;&gt;Charles Darwin&lt;/a&gt;: explorer, scientist, gentleman, and - in our era - symbol of sanity and reason.

I haven&apos;t gotten any tattoos yet, but I have been working on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.redplanetsw.com/personal/marssaxman/2002/compassfire2.gif&quot;&gt;this design&lt;/a&gt; for a few months. I&apos;m not sure when or whether I&apos;ll end up using it, but it&apos;s been a fun graphics project.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Oct 2002 11:25:43 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jetgrrl</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20575/#360605</link>	
		<description>I&apos;ve got a number of portraits tattooed on my arm, but none of them are real-life characters. Do they count? They&apos;re from the comic Preacher. I also have an Escher drawing that is in the same style (on my other arm).</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Oct 2002 00:15:15 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ztt</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20575/#361240</link>	
		<description>I was trying to psyche myself into getting the Richard Pryor illustration from the cover of &apos;Wanted&apos; done, but luckily I talked myself out of it.  I guess I am just soft.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Oct 2002 18:27:40 -0800</pubDate>
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